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Climbing Mount CMMC

Climbing Mount CMMC
Author: Bobby Guerra
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Our podcast is dedicated to supporting MSPs/MSSPs and the companies that engage with them. We aim to maintain transparency throughout our journey, especially as we pursue our level two certification. While only a few MSPs are actively participating, we hope this podcast will inspire more involvement.
We are also excited to announce that we will have guests on our podcast who are professional in their fields. These guests include Brian Hubbard, Joy Beland, Amira Armond and many more.
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In this episode, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss the complexities of navigating the Defense Industrial Base (DIB) space, particularly focusing on the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) assessments. They explore the challenges faced by organizations in understanding and complying with CMMC requirements, the importance of effective communication with C3PAOs, and the necessity of thorough preparation for assessments. The conversation emphasizes the need for organizations to align their ...
48 CFR IS HERE! And we have a lot to talk about. In this episode, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss the recent release of 48 CFR and its implications for contractors and subcontractors working with the Department of Defense (War). They explore the significance of the new regulations, the phased rollout strategy, and the importance of CMMC unique identifiers (UIDs). The conversation highlights the risks associated with non-compliance and the need for contractors to be proactive in preparing for ...
In this episode, Kaleigh and Bobby discuss the critical role of data flow diagrams in system security plans, particularly in the context of CMMC compliance. They explore the importance of understanding data flow, identifying sources and users, and ensuring proper sanitization of controlled unclassified information (CUI). The conversation emphasizes the need for organizations to be aware of how data flows through their systems and the implications for security and compliance. Axiom's L...
In this episode, Kaleigh and Bobby delve into the intricacies of Customer Responsibility Matrices (CRMs) within the context of CMMC compliance. They discuss the importance of having a well-defined CRM, the relationship between CRMs and service agreements, and how these elements play a crucial role in assessments. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in responsibilities, the role of Managed Service Providers (MSPs), and the expectations of auditors. The hosts provide insights on ho...
This protips podcast episode is extra special! It includes clips from our webinar delving into the intricacies of system security plans (SSPs), emphasizing their critical role in organizational security and compliance with NIST 800.171 and CMMC standards. The discussion covers the importance of scoping, defining system boundaries, managing data flow, and detailing security controls. It also highlights the necessity of well-defined policies and procedures, as well as the clear outlining of use...
In this episode, Kaleigh interviews Dy Edington, the Director of Information Security at AV (formally BlueHalo), about her journey through the CMMC Level 2 assessment. Dy shares insights on the importance of leadership buy-in, team collaboration, and the challenges faced during implementation. She emphasizes the significance of documentation, training, and continuous improvement in maintaining compliance. She also offers valuable advice for those starting their CMMC journey, highlighting the ...
In this first episode of Season 4 of Climbing Mount CMMC, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss the intricacies of Plans of Action and Milestones (POA&Ms) in the context of compliance with CMMC and NIST standards. They explore the historical misuse of POA&Ms, the new regulations that have been implemented, and the importance of creating effective POA&Ms. The conversation also touches on the role of operational plans of action (OPAs) and the implications of involving external service providers...
*Spoiler Alert* CMMC is real and it's happening right now. In this episode, Kaleigh Floyd and Bobby Guerra discuss the critical aspects of CMMC compliance for contractors, addressing common questions and concerns. They explore the differences between CMMC Level 1 and Level 2, the importance of legal guidance, and the necessity of understanding controlled unclassified information (CUI). The conversation emphasizes the need for proactive planning, leadership buy-in, and the creation of a ...
In this episode, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss five significant changes they believe could be made to the CMMC ecosystem. They explore the thought of C3PAOs to providing recommendations after assessments, the possibility of allowing organizations to pass with a score of 88, and the importance of having a C3PAO assessment process for MSPs. They also emphasize the need for yearly reviews instead of full assessments and the challenges posed by FIPS regulations. The conversation highlights the import...
In this episode, Kaleigh Floyd and Bobby Guerra discuss the complexities of adopting CMMC (Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification) from both the MSP and client perspectives. They explore the challenges organizations face in implementing CMMC, the importance of client education, and the need for a structured approach to change management. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of leadership buy-in and the scalability of processes to ensure compliance without compromising efficiency. The...
In this episode, Kaleigh and Bobby discuss the complexities of CMMC documentation with Tom Conkle from Optic Cyber Solutions. They explore the challenges of writing effective System Security Plans (SSPs) and Customer Responsibility Matrices (CRMs), emphasizing the importance of viewing these documents as management tools rather than mere compliance checkboxes. The conversation highlights common pitfalls organizations face, the significance of clear communication between service providers and ...
In this episode, Kaleigh Floyd and Bobby Guerra delve into the complexities of inheritance within the CMMC framework, particularly focusing on the role of external service providers (ESPs) and the responsibilities of organizations seeking assessment (OSA). They discuss the importance of system security plans, the nuances of the CMMC assessment process, and the challenges faced by managed service providers (MSPs) in navigating inheritance claims. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarit...
In this episode, Kaleigh and Bobby discuss the complexities of scaling CMMC for Managed Service Providers (MSPs). They explore the challenges of compliance, the importance of tools, and the necessity of having structured operational and sales strategies. The conversation also delves into the 'Four Horsemen' of compliance, which are critical for maintaining security and compliance standards. Finally, they emphasize the importance of ongoing maintenance and the long-term scalability of CMMC pro...
In this episode, Bobby and Kaleigh discuss the challenges and strategies of marketing within the CMMC space. Kaleigh shares her journey of transitioning into this niche market, emphasizing the importance of building a reputation, understanding client needs, and maintaining transparency throughout the sales process. They explore the significance of effective communication, the necessity of educating clients about CMMC, and the balance between being sympathetic and correcting misconceptions. Th...
In this episode, Bobby and Kaleigh explore the CyberAB ecosystem, focusing on the various roles and certifications within the CMMC framework. They discuss the importance of understanding the distinctions between Registered Practitioners (RP), Registered Practitioner Organizations (RPO), CMMC Certified Professionals (CCP), and CMMC Certified Assessors (CCA). The conversation also highlights the role of C3PAOs in conducting assessments and the significance of external service providers in the c...
In this episode of Climbing Mount CMMC, hosts Kaleigh Floyd and Bobby Guerra delve into the intricacies of Customer Responsibility Matrices (CRMs) and their significance in CMMC compliance. They discuss the definition of CRMs, their importance in defining responsibilities between customers and service providers, and the essential components needed to create an effective CRM. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in responsibilities, the connection to NIST 800-171 controls, and the ...
In this episode of Climbing Mount CMMC, hosts Kaleigh Floyd and Bobby Guerra engage with Chris and Hannah Silvers, a father-daughter duo from CG Silver's Consulting. They discuss their journey in the cybersecurity field, the challenges and dynamics of CMMC, and the importance of community and collaboration in navigating this complex landscape. The conversation highlights the unique challenges faced by MSPs in adapting to CMMC requirements and the evolving nature of their business dynamics. Th...
In this episode, Kaleigh Floyd and Bobby Guerra discuss the critical issue of false starts in CMMC assessments, emphasizing the importance of proper documentation and preparation. They explore the phases of CMMC assessments, the consequences of failing to meet requirements, and the necessity of seeking help from consultants. The conversation highlights the significance of mock assessments and understanding the roles of external service providers in the assessment process. The hosts provide pr...
In this episode, Kaleigh and Bobby welcome back Kyle Lai to discuss the challenges and insights surrounding C3PAOs and the CMMC framework. They explore Kyle's journey into the C3PAO space, the current state of audits, and the importance of software development in compliance. The conversation highlights the need for collaboration between IT and software development teams, the significance of understanding controlled unclassified information (CUI), and the challenges faced during assessments. K...
In this episode of CybHer, Kaleigh Floyd interviews Jil Wright, president of Wrightbrained Security, discussing her extensive experience in IT and the CMMC space. They explore the challenges of cybersecurity assessments, the importance of documentation, and the evolving role of women in the tech industry. Jil shares insights on the necessity of evidence in assessments, the significance of mentorship, and the need for companies to prepare adequately for CMMC compliance. The conversation highli...