CoinDesk Podcast Network

Insights into the past, present and future of the crypto industry with Tezos foundation co-founder Kathleen Breitman.Follow the podcast here.Tezos foundation co-founder Kathleen Breitman joins CoinDesk Spotlight to share her crypto journey and the evolution of Tezos throughout the years. Plus, insights into the future of blockchain technologies and why it will be "deeply boring" despite the volatility across the crypto industry.-This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes.-This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie, “CoinDesk Spotlight” is produced by Sam Ewen, Jennifer Sanasie, and Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Riot’s Pierre Rochard joins the show to share his thoughts on Trump’s second administration, the potential of federal and state-level strategic bitcoin reserves, and more.Welcome back to The Mining Pod! Today, Riot’s VP of Research, Pierre Rochard, joins Will and Colin to discuss a variety of topics. The fellas start by talking about what a second Trump presidency and Republican Congress means for Bitcoin miners, especially in light of the last administration and Congress’ hostility toward all things Bitcoin. He also weighs the merits of a national Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, as well as one in Texas, and the pod closes on discussion of Riot’s $594.4 million convertible note and the miner’s expansion outside of Texas. Timestamps:00:00 Start03:09 Pierre's bio15:13 Elizabeth Warren17:03 Expecting positive regulation?20:36 Texas mining bills27:32 AI power demand on Texas grid31:54 Strategic Bitcoin Reserve33:42 National SBR?34:45 Riot convertible note40:24 Why not invest in infrastructure?42:43 Why debt financing now?45:16 Convertible debt niche51:41 New Kentucky mining sitePublished twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday! 👉Enjoying the show? Check out our newsletter at miningpod.blockspace.media!👉 Check out Bitcoin Season 2 and The Gwart Show!Follow our hosts on Twitter: @wsfoxley, @cbspears, @AsILayHodling, @MatthewKimmell-Thank you to our sponsor, CleanSpark, America’s Bitcoin miner!"The Mining Pod" is produced by Sunnyside Honey Inc. with Senior Producer Damien Somerset.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Comic Con pioneer Gareb Shamus discusses the transformation of geek culture from niche to mainstream and reveals his latest venture in collectibles.Gareb Shamus, Founder of Wizard Magazine and Co-Founder of Comic Con, shares the untold origin story of cosplay at conventions and how his magazine revolutionized comic collecting through price guides and industry coverage. Gareb discusses transforming Comic Con into a cultural phenomenon and introduces StarPics, his new company creating authenticated celebrity autograph cards using innovative security features.Links mentioned from the podcast: Pudgy Penguins PENGU Token Debuts at $2.3B Market CapNVIDIA Unveils Its Most Affordable Generative AI SupercomputerGareb’s TwitterStarPics WebsiteWatch this episode on video:YouTubeCoinDeskFollow us on Twitter: Sam Ewen, Avery Akkineni, CoinDesk, Vayner3From our sponsor: In Chinese, belief means trust. For 10 years, Consensus has united those who believe in building a new internet where everyone has value. Join us at Consensus Hong Kong February 18 - 20, 2025 where belief becomes real. Connect with global leaders, innovators, and investors shaping the future of Web3, and experience the power of collaboration at the industry's most influential event. Register now: https://go.coindesk.com/3BeigBq-"Gen C" features hosts Sam Ewen and Avery Akkineni. Executive produced by by Uyen Truong. Our theme music is "1882” by omgkirby x Channel Tres with editing by Doc Blust. Artwork by Nicole Marie Rincon.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry as "Hawk Tuah" girl Hailey Welch broke her silence for the first time since the failure of her crypto token HAWK."Hawk Tuah" girl Hailey Welch broke her silence for the first time since the failure of her crypto token HAWK, posting on X that she is "fully cooperating" with lawyers representing investors who lost money. Plus, El Salvador makes concessions on bitcoin and Hut 8 stacks its BTC bag. "CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For today’s roundup, the guys cover Cango, Halliburton’s bitcoin mining investment, an investor lawsuit against Rhodium, and more.Welcome back to The Mining Pod! For today’s roundup, the Blockspace boys cover Cango, the largest public bitcoin miner that you’ve never heard of, and they dig into breaking news of oil and gas giant Halliburton investing in Bitcoin mining. Plus, an investor lawsuit against Rhodium, MARA and Hut 8’s bitcoin buys after issuing convertible notes, and in this episode’s cry corner, Bitcoin Twitter’s favorite squabble this week: the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve. Timestamps:00:00 Start03:24 Difficulty update07:01 Cangoooooooo16:25 Halliburton mining bitcoin?24:05 Miners & debt instruments31:17 Rhodium sued for fraud37:04 Cry corner: Bitcoin strategic reservePublished twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday! 👉Enjoying the show? Check out our newsletter at miningpod.blockspace.media!👉 Check out Bitcoin Season 2 and The Gwart Show!Follow our hosts on Twitter: @wsfoxley, @cbspears, @AsILayHodling, @MatthewKimmell-Thank you to our sponsor, CleanSpark, America’s Bitcoin miner!"The Mining Pod" is produced by Sunnyside Honey Inc. with Senior Producer Damien Somerset.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and Shibtoshi.To get the show every day, follow the podcast here.Shibtoshi, founder and CEO at SquidGrow and SilentSwap, joins CoinDesk to discuss the recent price movements in bitcoin and his optimistic outlook for ether. Plus, tips for investors who are new to the crypto space.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes.-This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry as Bitfinex hacker Ilya Lichtenstein makes his first public statement since his arrest.Bitfinex hacker Ilya Lichtenstein made his first public statement since his 2022 arrest with a five-minute video posted on X. Lichtenstein reiterated that he was the lone hacker and apologized. "CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry from the debut of PENGU to the NFT market's comeback.Pudgy Penguins' native token PENGU debuted at a $2.3 billion market cap. This comes as the overall NFT market shows signs of recovery, according to a report from Galaxy Research. "CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and Spexi CEO Bill Lakeland.To get the show every day, follow the podcast here.Spexi CEO Bill Lakeland joins CoinDesk to discuss how drone pilots can profit from the "fly-to-earn" model and the "cautions optimism" sentiment around fund raising in crypto.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes.-This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Convertible notes are all the rage in Bitcoin mining today. How did CleanSpark structure its note? We dig in!Welcome back to The Mining Pod! On today’s show, were joined by CleanSpark CEO Zach Bradford and CFO Gary Vecchiarelli to discuss their convertible note offering. In this show, we go through the mechanics of the note (it’s complicated, trust me), the purpose for using the funds, growing to 50 EH/s and why CleanSpark chose not to buy Bitcoin with the capital on hand. Lastly we talk about the institutional space for Bitcoin investments including metrics and topics to watch out for in 2025!Timestamps:00:00 Start02:10 Cleanspark update04:11 How the note works07:53 Why not buy Bitcoin?13:35 Why 0% interest16:16 Why the cap call?19:34 Choosing the right financial option25:38 Why convertible note bull market?30:16 Deal coordination31:17 Bond market new to miners?32:31 Shareholder value36:51 ATM38:05 Why not deploy capital immediately?40:12 Institutional investors41:34 Best metrics to watch43:02 What does 2025 look like?Published twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday! 👉Enjoying the show? Check out our newsletter at miningpod.blockspace.media!👉 Check out Bitcoin Season 2 and The Gwart Show!Follow our hosts on Twitter: @wsfoxley, @cbspears, @AsILayHodling, @MatthewKimmell-Thank you to our sponsor, CleanSpark, America’s Bitcoin miner!"The Mining Pod" is produced by Sunnyside Honey Inc. with Senior Producer Damien Somerset. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry as Ripple's RLUSD launch sparked an XRP trading frenzy."CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry Tuesday as the launch of Ripple's RLUSD sparked an XRP trading frenzy. Plus, the latest on MiCA and Tether's investment in European stablecoin company StablR.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From accountant to TikTok executive to "Sir Candle Man," Kudzi shares his insights on authentic content creation and the evolving creator economy.In this episode, we sit down with Kudzi Chikumbu, former Global Head of Creator Marketing at TikTok turned creator, investor and advisor who helped shape the platform's early creator partnerships and brought it into modern awareness. Kudzi shares his unique journey from Zimbabwe to Silicon Valley and from accounting to becoming an influential voice in the creator economy. The conversation spans everything from the evolution of social media platforms to specific strategies for aspiring creators and Kudzi’s love for a good candle!Links mentioned from the podcast: Kudzi’s TwitterKudzi’s TikTokSir Candle Man’s TikTokWatch this episode on video:YouTubeCoinDeskFollow us on Twitter: Sam Ewen, Avery Akkineni, CoinDesk, Vayner3From our sponsor: In Chinese, belief means trust. For 10 years, Consensus has united those who believe in building a new internet where everyone has value. Join us at Consensus Hong Kong February 18 - 20, 2025 where belief becomes real. Connect with global leaders, innovators, and investors shaping the future of Web3, and experience the power of collaboration at the industry's most influential event. Register now: https://go.coindesk.com/3BeigBq-"Gen C" features hosts Sam Ewen and Avery Akkineni. Executive produced by by Uyen Truong. Our theme music is "1882” by omgkirby x Channel Tres with editing by Doc Blust. Artwork by Nicole Marie Rincon.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and EY Global Blockchain Leader Paul Brody.To get the show every day, follow the podcast here.EY Global Blockchain Leader Paul Brody joins CoinDesk with his optimistic outlook on crypto and blockchain in 2025. Plus, insights into regulatory changes and developments in stablecoins and DeFi.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes.-This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry as bitcoin reaches another record high.Bitcoin set another fresh record above $107,000 Monday morning in New York. This comes as crypto companies such as Riot Platforms and MicroStrategy purchased billions worth of the asset in past weeks. "CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry today.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CoinDesk Indices presents notable data insights from the week, followed by additional analysis from Jason Leibowitz, Managing Director and Head of Private Wealth at Hashnote Labs.To get the show every day, follow the podcast here.The CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) functions as a benchmark for the performance of the digital asset market, delivering institutional quality information to digital asset investors. Subsets of the CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) are investable CoinDesk Crypto Sectors and the CoinDesk 20 Index, designed to measure the performance of top digital assets. Today’s takeaways are provided by Tracy Stephens, senior index manager at CoinDesk Indices with additional analysis from Jason Leibowitz, Managing Director and Head of Private Wealth at Hashnote Labs.For more on CoinDesk Indices, visit: coindeskmarkets.com.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and Amberdata Director of Derivatives Greg Magadini.To get the show every day, follow the podcast here.Amberdata Director of Derivatives Greg Magadini joins CoinDesk with his outlook on bitcoin, ether and solana's performance in 2025. Plus, insights into the Federal Reserve's rate cut decisions and the skepticism around XRP's recent surge.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes.-This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hyperscalers are coming to Bitcoin mining. Actually, it's the other way around!Welcome back to The Mining Pod! In today’s show were ripping on Hut 8’s $12 billion build out in Louisiana for a full hyperscaler facility. Yes, that’s nearly 6x the marketcap of Hut 8 currently! We also go into Crusoe’s $600M raise from Founders Fund, our scoop on DCG spinning out Foundry’s self-mining assets, Riot joining the HODL gang with Microstrategy and MARA and some final thoughts on Coinbase listing random tokens for ‘just the funsies.’ Oh, also Texas is going to do a Bitcoin Reserve!Timestamps:00:00 Start01:54 Difficulty update04:29 Hut 8 plans 1,000 MW in Louisiana10:19 Crusoe Closes $600M Raise13:35 DCG creates new company18:56 Riot Offering of 0.75% Convertible Senior Notes27:52 Coinbase lists Peanut the Squirrel (PNUT) memcoin33:20 Texas Bitcoin ReservePublished twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday! 👉Enjoying the show? Check out our newsletter at miningpod.blockspace.media!👉 Check out Bitcoin Season 2 and The Gwart Show!Follow our hosts on Twitter: @wsfoxley, @cbspears, @AsILayHodling, @MatthewKimmell-Thank you to our sponsor, CleanSpark, America’s Bitcoin miner!"The Mining Pod" is produced by Sunnyside Honey Inc. with Senior Producer Damien Somerset.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry as BlackRock recommends 1% to 2% of portfolio allocation towards bitcoin.Asset management giant BlackRock, with over $10 trillion AUM, recommends investors allocate 1% to 2% of their portfolio towards bitcoin. Plus, wallets connected to President-elect Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial project purchased millions of dollars worth of altcoins, and Vancouver wants to become a "bitcoin-friendly city." "CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry today.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie.To get the show every day, follow the podcast here.More all-time highs for bitcoin, solana and ether? Continuing inflows for ETFs? Here are Bitwise's top ten predictions for crypto in 2025, presented by CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This content should not be construed or relied upon as investment advice. It is for entertainment and general information purposes.-This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Christine Lee breaks down the latest news in the crypto industry from Microsoft's bitcoin proposal to Russia considering a BTC reserve.Microsoft shareholders voted against a proposal that would have directed the company board to consider adding bitcoin to the firm's treasury holdings. Plus, Russia's plan for a strategic bitcoin reserve and crypto developments in Latin America. "CoinDesk Daily" host Christine Lee breaks down the biggest headlines in the crypto industry today.-Imagine a blockchain built for you. No wallets, no keys, no hassle—just innovation. Welcome to XION, the first walletless layer-one blockchain purpose-built for consumer adoption.With XION, developers can build, launch, and scale products that are ready for the masses—no technical barriers for users, thanks to groundbreaking Chain Abstraction. All it takes to join the crypto revolution? An email.Say goodbye to complexity and hello to possibility. Ready to take the leap? Explore XION today at xion.burnt.com-This episode was hosted by Christine Lee. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Christine Lee and edited by Victor Chen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.