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Cold is a narrative podcast series focused on missing persons cases. Investigative journalist and host Dave Cawley takes on a single story with each season.


Season 3: The Search for Sheree follows two suspects in the 1985 disappearance of Sheree Warren while examining the dangerous escalation of domestic abuse and sexual violence. The Cold team seeks to answer the question: what really happened to Sheree Warren?


Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.


Season 2: Justice for Joyce Yost delves into the details of a murder-for-hire plot and attempts to find justice for Joyce – a woman who bravely reported her kidnapping and rape only to vanish without a trace.


Season 1: Susan Powell Case Files, the Cold journey begins with Dave’s investigation into the unsolved disappearance of Susan Powell… and the man with the most to gain from her death.


 


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Susan Powell vanished from her home in West Valley City, Utah on a cold December day in 2009. Her husband, Josh Powell had taken the couple's two sons out camping in a blizzard. He claimed to have no idea where his wife had gone. Susan has never been found. Josh was never arrested or charged with a crime, though police suspected he murdered Susan in cold blood. Reporter Dave Cawley has spent years pouring over this cold case mystery. In Prelude, he sets the stage for an unbelievable true story. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/prelude-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Josh Powell believed in his own greatness from at least age 5. So why wouldn't any girls date him? Why did his only other serious girlfriend before Susan Cox run away in fear? Perhaps because he inherited some of his father Steven Powell's bizarre beliefs about relationships and marriage. This episode tells the story of the one who got away from Josh Powell, a full decade before the disappearance of Susan Powell made him the focus of a multi-state murder investigation. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos, and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads, and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, and on to Washington State, where he killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/to-all-the-girls-josh-powell-full-transcript/ Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Susan Cox married Josh Powell after only 6 months of courtship. She immediately found herself under the lens of her father-in-law Steven Powell's video camera. The camcorder even captured Steve's confession of love for his daughter-in-law Susan Powell in July of 2013. She rejected him, not realizing he had stalked her and stolen her journals, underwear and hygiene products. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos, and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads, and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, and on to Washington State, where he killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/wake-up-little-susie-susan-cox-powell-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Susan Powell feared for her life. She braced for divorce as her marriage to Josh Powell reached its lowest point in 2008, but worried how he would react. She even wrote a secret last will and testament that said, "If I die, it may not be an accident, even if it looks like one." Josh had learned from his dad Steve Powell's divorce and made preparations of his own. He set up a trust that would give him control of Susan's $1,000,000 life insurance policy in the case of her untimely death. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where he killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/susan-powell-faith-and-finances-full-transcript/ Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Josh and Susan Powell's daycare provider, Debbie Caldwell, sounded an alarm when the couple's boys, Charlie and Braden Powell, failed to arrive at her home on the morning of Monday, Dec. 7, 2009. West Valley City police detective Ellis Maxwell drew the assignment of locating the missing family that day and discovered two box fans in the missing family's home, pointed at the couch. When Josh Powell returned to Sarah Circle with the boys that afternoon, Maxwell was waiting with a long list of questions. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/find-susan-cox-powell-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
The criminal investigation into Susan Powell's disappearance kicked into high gear on Dec. 8, 2009. Josh Powell frantically cleaned his house and minivan before meeting detective Ellis Maxwell for a tense second interview. In secret warrants, West Valley City police identified Josh as their sole suspect in Susan's presumed kidnapping and murder. However, they narrowly missed their best chance of finding her. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/10-minutes-josh-powell-police-interview-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Josh Powell went off the grid for 18 hours after avoiding arrest on Dec. 8, 2009. He popped up the next afternoon in Tremonton, Utah. Police soon learned he'd put 807 miles on a rental car. The news media learned of Susan Powell's disappearance and began to hound Josh, even as his own neighbors turned against him. In the middle of all of this, Josh went to a physical therapist and was diagnosed with a rotator cuff injury -- something unknown even to police until now. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/josh-powell-in-the-wind-rental-car-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Josh Powell told a group of his wife's friends and coworkers a year before she disappeared that if he were ever to commit murder, he'd dispose of the body by dropping it down an abandoned mine. That and other clues led West Valley City police to launch an exhaustive search abandoned mines in Utah's West Desert, beginning just days after Susan Powell's disappearance. They kept that effort secret, even as frustrated volunteers launched their own searches for Susan's body across the Great Basin. Now, the full story of the secret mine search comes to light for the first time. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/scouring-the-desert-abandoned-mine-full-transcript  
Josh Powell abandoned his home on Sarah Circle less than two weeks after the disappearance of his wife, Susan. He retreated to Puyallup, Washington and the home of his father, Steve Powell. On both ends of the move, he called on members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to help him load and unload his belongings. He never realized one of those volunteers was actually a federal agent. Soon afterward, Josh's estranged older sister Jennifer Graves approached West Valley City police with a proposal. Jennifer volunteered to wear a wire and confront her brother. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/jennifer-graves-wearing-a-wire-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Steve Powell sang to the FBI just months into the search for his missing daughter-in-law Susan Powell. Agents tried to warn him that his son, Josh Powell, was likely a murderer and could kill again. Steve's bizarre views came under even more intense scrutiny after West Valley City police discovered he'd written and performed songs about Susan using the alias Steve Chantrey. He had even convinced Susan to sing background vocals for his planned album, "Light of Seattle." For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/light-of-seattle-steve-powell-songs-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Josh and Susan Powell's oldest son, Charlie, started to open up about his missing mommy in 2010 as he attended the Mel Korum YMCA and started kindergarten at Carson Elementary School. Charlie's comments about killing bears and Mormons raised alarm for summer camp counselors and his teacher, Tammy Forman. Meanwhile, West Valley City police took their investigation in a new direction, planning to introduce Josh to a possible romantic interest on a Seattle commuter train. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/charlie-powell-kill-a-bear-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
West Valley City police were running out of options. Every traditional approach to the Susan Powell case had failed. So, during the summer of 2011, detectives began brainstorming plans for a major, multi-state operation code-named Tsunami. It all hinged on the use of a court-authorized wiretap to monitor Josh Powell's phone calls, in the hopes he would let slip some important clue about the fate of his missing wife. To stimulate that conversation, police staged a bizarre public search in Ely, Nevada and they raided the Puyallup, Washington home of Josh's father, Steve Powell. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan TwitterInstagramFacebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/operation-tsunami-full-transcript  
With the wiretap winding down, West Valley police returned to Utah's West Desert with cadaver dogs. They found what at first appeared to be a grave site, but soon discovered it held no sign of Susan. Meantime, digging of a different sort on Josh Powell's computers and digital devices turned up new leads. The FBI and U.S. Secret Service encountered one encrypted hard drive that resisted every effort to view its contents. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/topaz-mountain-human-remains-full-transcript  
Josh Powell went to court in Washington in a bid to get his sons, Charlie and Braden, returned to him. West Valley City police warned the social workers they'd found incestuous cartoon pornography on Josh's computer. After reviewing those images, forensic psychologist James Manley suggested Josh undergo a psychosexual evaluation. Meantime, detectives puzzled over why Josh's brother, Michael Powell, sold his 1997 Ford Taurus to Lindell Auto in Pendleton, Ore. just weeks after Susan Powell's disappearance. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/4thekidzz-josh-powell-custody-battle-full-transcript  
Josh Powell carries out his final act, killing his sons Charlie and Braden by setting fire to his rented home in Graham, Wash. during a court-authorized visit. In the wake of the fire, Susan Powell's family and friends find comfort in their community. West Valley police and Pierce County sheriff's deputies seek clues in the charred remains of the house, hoping that Josh might at last point them to Susan's final resting place. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/killing-susans-sons-murder-suicide-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
After the deaths of Josh, Charlie and Braden, West Valley police refocused their investigation on Josh Powell's youngest brother. The mercurial Michael Powell made a play for Josh and Susan Powell's life insurance, ending up entangled in an interpleader lawsuit. During a civil deposition, he lied about his encrypted emails and Facebook snooping with Josh. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/fall-of-the-house-of-powell-life-insurance-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
A jailhouse informant calling himself "Cowboy" provided police with a promising tip early in the search for Susan Powell. He said Josh Powell had spent time with an elusive stripper named Summer. Find Summer, find Susan. Detectives launched an all-out hunt for Summer that stretched on for years, yet failed to turn up any new information. It was just one among hundreds of tips in the Powell investigation that wasted time and resources, never bringing police any closer to finding Susan. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/chasing-leads-josh-powell-stripper-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
West Valley City police made one final push before declaring the Susan Powell case cold in 2013, interrogating Josh Powell's uncle Maurice Leach in Oregon. Meanwhile, Susan's family fought for change, both in the courts and at the Washington statehouse. Josh's mom, Terri Powell, went to court in Utah to argue for her share of the life insurance money. Twice-convicted sex offender Steve Powell died alone from heart failure. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/cold-case-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
Nearly 10 years have elapsed since Susan Powell's disappearance. Her body has still not been found. The investigation remains a cold case. In recent years, Susan's friends and family have focused their effort on sharing the story as a cautionary tale. They hope showing the warning signs of domestic abuse can help others safely escape dangerous relationships. In this season finale for Cold, Dave shares his theory on what he believes happened to Susan. For the past three years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He has tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth. Share your thoughts: #ColdPodcast #FindSusan Twitter Instagram Facebook Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-1-transcript/angel-of-hope-susan-powell-theory-full-transcript Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.
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Marlo Walters

I had to stop listening about halfway through. Way too many names and characters. Lost track...

Aug 28th
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Billy Shields

so are you suppose to stay to yourself and NEVER talk with anyone or make any friends? you'll never be able to report because the one you're reporting on might be the guy you said hey to 3 years before lol

Aug 8th
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Shanonymous

28:20 "He had a plan, and I'm not sure what it was, but I can assure you, he thought it was absolutely brilliant. It wasn't; he was being tracked." Now, I'm not one to support anything this lunatic did, but to say he thought he was brilliant because he had a plan and that he wasn't because he was tracked is pointless butt-hurt cop talk. Actually, it WAS brilliant, as Susan has still never been found, nor has any evidence related to his alleged elimination of her. #HateToSayThisBut

Jul 13th
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Shanonymous

I'm sorry, but Flexeril is just not that strong of a drug. Now, if he had Soma, your theory may make more sense, but certainly not Flexeril. I have zero tolerance, but could easy pop 10 of the strongest Flexeril and still absolutely function at 100%. I still agree that he did give her something in the "cream cheese pancake" -- but not Flexeril. Whatever he gave her, he gave her all he had, and there was nothing left to find.

Jul 13th
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Shanonymous

The concept of a "wolf pack" where Leaders eat first is a fallacy. It's based on Dr. David Mech's wolf studies, which the scientist himself ddebunked, having studied a group of captive wolves, cherry-picked and hand selected from different wild families, which is not an accurate portrayal of a wolf pack. In an actual Wolf pack, the "Leaders" are no more than parents, and they DON'T eat first; they provide food for the young first. Humanity needs to move on from this canid behavior fallacy.

Jul 13th
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Shanonymous

This is one of the most fascinating true crime stories told in an incredibly compelling way. The production quality is also top-notch. I've heard multiple podcasts on the Powell case, but nothing near this in-depth. I had no idea how absolutely insane Josh's father was. This is far and away one of the most twisted, depressing stories ever, and it's relayed brilliantly. I'm hooked!!! RIP Susan. I would celebrate if this turned out to be a Gone Girl situation & Susan was behind the whole thing. 😪

Jul 13th
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Shanonymous

This podcast is excellent. I've heard all about Susan Cox's story (I refuse to acknowledge the surname Powell; the Powell men are disturbing at least and dangerous/murderous at worst). It's tragic to hear the depths of their journals. This poor woman - I fear he wound her up in the tree branch wrap from Lowe's, then torched her wrapped body. I'm so terribly sad for the final days of this fearless, hopeful, thoughtful young woman's life. He likely poisoned her causing her nausea. Just tragic.

Jul 12th
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Hannah

Blood is absolutely on the hands of the 911 dispatcher, the fire department, the police. Elizabeth made a mistake of allowing the kids to run ahead, but she called 911 and wasn't taken seriously. I hope the dispatcher, police and fire department were all held accountable -- their lack of concern caused precious moments to be lost. Those little boys could have survived if they'd simply listened to Elizabeth when she called 911.

Jul 12th
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Ciara

the 911 call is one of the most frustrating things I've ever listened to 🤬

Jun 25th
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Peter Tzagarakis

Wow, the recordings of this twisted mind are jaw dropping. To be able to hear his innermost thoughts on relationships and life in general is so revealing. As creepy as he is, I want to HEAR A LOT MORE of what he said about things. This seems like a treasure trove of information about how this NPD mind works and sees the world. Love the format of this pod. Most of these types of series spend 10 minutes per episode retelling us what they just said in the previous episode. More please. Brilliant!

Jun 17th
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Apr 19th
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cmcco

One of the worst parts of this has to be how Steve's music isn't satire. 😔

Nov 24th
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cmcco

Takes a fair bit to shake me in a podcast, but that accidental recorded conversation was extremely uncomfortable. 🤮

Nov 22nd
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@atsmath

This is so, so well done.

Sep 27th
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Ch3No2

I sure hope that Susan, Sharrie and Joyce are found before I pass on, it would be great but.....

Sep 14th
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May 24th
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An-D

I'm so glad you can congratulate yourself on being ethical. I think this guy is on his high horse. He does in depth journalism but he sucks at telling a story.

May 11th
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Danielle Beeaff

Ellis is an excellent investigator because he keeps an open mind and looks at all angles without wasting too much time in one direction. Josh murdered his wife. Honestly, I feel that Josh was a lot like his father. I feel Josh was not interested in traditional sex with adult women. I feel that he had pedophilia tendencies. I feel he was too lazy to pursue sexual gratification outside of his family. I feel he was molesting his sons. I strongly feel Josh was hiding sexual obsessions long before Susan came into the picture. Susan was too dedicated to her marriage through her faith. However, I can believe that she would enjoy the attention of male coworkers and enjoy flirting. She was neglected emotionally and physically  at home. Susan was too dedicated to her children to have abandoned them.

Mar 28th
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Danielle Beeaff

My thought is maybe he didn’t end up putting her body in a mine because it was too difficult to get her body in one. Maybe he feared for his own safety, since he was such a narcissist. Josh sounded like somebody who thought he knew everything but when acting on it, things don’t work out as well as he envisioned. If he strained his shoulder, trying to drag her to a mine, he probably didn’t anticipate that thought beforehand. Maybe he ended up burying her somewhere with the shovel that was in the van.  or ended up disposing of her body in a different way . 

Mar 22nd
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Danielle Beeaff

I believe that Josh killed Susan in her home near or on the couch. He cleaned it up and left the fans on to dry while he took the body of Susan and the two boys on a so called camping trip where he hid her body in the desert. I believe there was a shred of truth when the boy,Charlie, told police of his Mom going camping with them. She may have looked asleep to him but in reality she was dead. The whole story of Josh going camping with his two very young boys after midnight, spur of the moment, without a plan or notice was absolutely ludicrous. I believe he used blunt force trama to kill her while she slept. It’s tragic that he wasn’t caught before he ended up killing his sons. I hope her body is found. This case has really gripped me.

Mar 21st
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