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Author: Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

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Dismantling New Age cults, wellness grifters, and conspiracy-mad yogis. At best, the conspirituality movement attacks public health efforts in times of crisis. At worst, it fronts and recruits for the fever-dream of QAnon. As the alt-right and New Age horseshoe toward each other in a blur of disinformation, clear discourse, and good intentions get smothered. Charismatic influencers exploit their followers by co-opting conspiracy theories on a spectrum of intensity ranging from vaccines to child trafficking. In the process, spiritual beliefs that have nurtured creativity and meaning are transforming into memes of a quickly-globalizing paranoia. Conspirituality Podcast attempts to bring understanding to this landscape. A journalist, a cult researcher, and a philosophical skeptic discuss the stories, cognitive dissonances, and cultic dynamics tearing through the yoga, wellness, and new spirituality worlds. Mainstream outlets have noticed the problem. We crowd-source, research, analyze, and dream answers to it.

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Matthew reflects on the fifth anniversary of his mother’s death and revisits how her life, trauma, and values helped him understand the appeal—and fatal flaw—of Jordan Peterson’s worldview. Toughness can be an expression of love without becoming a politics of cruelty. Show Notes 33: Manipulating the Hero’s Journey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Have you seen the “Grinch prank” video trend? Bad parenting, yes. But also a nod to the conflicts, ancient and modern, embedded in Christmas.  Contrary to what Bill O’Reilly would tell you, there has never been a “war on Christmas.” Rather, Christmas itself has always been a battleground over love, dignity, and resources. What we’re really fighting over is who gets care in systems built on scarcity and extraction. Vignette 1: The Original Creche Vignette 2: Krampus Vignette 3: Dickens, Chekhov, and Andersen Vignette 4: The Christmas Truce, 1914 Vignette 5: Dr. Seuss and the Grinch Show Notes Andersen, Hans Christian. The Little Match Girl. Copenhagen, 1845.https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10623 Boyle, James. “The Second Enclosure Movement and the Construction of the Public Domain.” Law and Contemporary Problems 66, no. 1–2 (2003).https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/lcp/vol66/iss1/2/ Chekhov, Anton. “Vanka.” 1892.https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/13418 Dickens, Charles. A Christmas Carol. London: Chapman & Hall, 1843.https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/46 Imperial War Museums. “Christmas Truce, 1914.”https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/christmas-truce-1914 Imperial War Museums. “Letter Describing the Christmas Truce.”https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1030000503 Lenin, Vladimir Ilyich. The Principles of Socialism and the War of 1914–1915. Marxists Internet Archive.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/princip/ McCoy, Michael. “What Is Tinsel Made Of? (and How It Changed Over the Years).” Chemical & Engineering News, December 15, 2014.https://cen.acs.org/articles/92/i50/Tinsel-Made.html Mitterauer, Michael. “Peasant and Non-Peasant Forms of Family Organization in Relation to the Physical Environment and the Local Economy.” Journal of Family History 2, no. 2 (1977).https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/036319907700200203 Nel, Philip. Dr. Seuss: American Icon. New York: Continuum, 2004.https://books.google.com/books?id=Yt4QAQAAIAAJ Nissenbaum, Stephen. The Battle for Christmas. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996.https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/171502/the-battle-for-christmas-by-stephen-nissenbaum/ Restad, Penne L. Christmas in America: A History. New York: Oxford University Press, 1995.https://global.oup.com/academic/product/christmas-in-america-9780195043659 Schmidt, Leigh Eric. Consumer Rites: The Buying and Selling of American Holidays. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 1995.https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691018448/consumer-rites Science History Institute. “History and Future of Plastics.”https://www.sciencehistory.org/topics/plastics Smithsonian Magazine. “The Origin of Krampus, Europe’s Evil Twist on Santa.” December 4, 2015.https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-origin-of-krampus-europes-evil-twist-on-santa-180957438/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In 1965, the US passed the Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act, the reason every pack of cigarettes has a warning label informing you about the potentially harmful effects. Since then, numerous regulations, educational drives, and taxation initiatives have made smoking less appealing and harder to do. In the contrarian wellness space, nicotine has become the alkaloid du jour. Forget cigs, this special chemical helps your energy, mood, and, at the far end of the influencer spectrum, treat cancer and autism—without that being medical advice, of course. And while nicotine has been shown to be potentially beneficial for a small range of issues, wellness influencers once again are sprinting the cart in front of the horse.  Mallory DeMille returns to break down the latest wellness buzz. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen to the full episode In 1994, Pulitzer Prize-winning Harvard psychiatry professor John E. Mack became one of the most pedigreed proponents of UFOs, alien abductions, and the alien-hybrid breeding scheme. He was introduced to celebrated painter, amateur hypnotherapist,  and UFO researcher Budd Hopkins by transpersonal psychologist Stan Grof. Hopkins had helped author Whitley Strieber recover the abduction “memories” that became the book (and then movie) Communion. Mack and Hopkins quickly produced their own movie, Intruders. Mack published Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens, going on the TV talk-show circuit with star patients that believed they were being experimented on while on alien spacecraft. Oprah slotted alien abductions right into her schedule, alongside Satanic ritual abuse, multiple personality disorder, and past-lives regressions.  In reasoning not unfamiliar to Conspirituality listeners, Hopkins claimed a government conspiracy was covering up the ET hybrid breeding scheme, while Mack explained the lack of physical evidence by claiming the abduction experience “challenged the Western paradigm of materialist science.” The X-Files TV show was inspired by their work, which also spawned today’s generation of UFO grifters, alien channelers, and pastel-Q lightworkers.  For today’s installment of his The Roots of Conspirituality series, Julian explores the characters, stories, psychology, and cultural significance of fantastical repressed memories retrieved under hypnosis—be they of horny demons, ritual Satanic abuse, or alien scientists who steal abductee’s DNA in the night. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Turning Point USA's AmFest 2025 saw a record number of attendees pour into Phoenix last weekend to watch a host of MAGA and MAHA luminaries proclaim they're raging against the Deep State—even though their coalition is now the Deep State. Derek and Julian look at the conference through the lens of the white, Christian Nationalist identity politics on display. Show Notes Inside AmericaFest: Infighting, lies and the desperate search for Charlie Kirk’s heir Vance Refuses to Take Sides in G.O.P. Fight Over Bigotry Turning Point exposed a brewing MAGA civil war. Can JD Vance unite it? ‘It’s Very Controversial, but I Love Nick Fuentes’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
An unlock of a bonus episode from earlier this year. ⁠Access all of our bonus episodes here⁠. Happy holidays, everyone! -- -- Earlier this year, a spate of news stories told of chatbot users travelling through the looking-glass right into Conspirituality. Paranoid conspiracies, spiritual awakenings, even falling head-over-heels in love with the simulated personalities of large language models like ChatGPT. Could AI have finally crossed the threshold into autonomous sentient consciousness? Could it be that chatbots were anointing new prophets—or, conversely, that very special users were awakening their very special friends via the power of love and illuminating dialogue? Step aside, QAnon, the code behind the screen is illuminated by God! Sadly, some of these stories trended very dark. Suicides, attempted murder, paranoid delusions, spouses terrified of losing their partners and co-parents to what looked like spiritual and romantic delusions. For this standalone installment of his Roots of Conspirituality series, Julian examines this strange new phenomenon, then takes a detour into Ancient Greece and the oracle at Delphi to show that everything old is actually new again—just dressed up in digital technology. Show Notes ⁠I Married My Chatbot⁠ ⁠FTC Complaints Against OpenAI for Chatbot Psychosis⁠ ⁠AI Spiritual Delusions Destroying Human Relationships⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen to the full episode RFK Jr trademarked MAHA in a giant swath of categories, including many he now advocates for in his position as Secretary of HHS. After making $100,000 in licensing fees, he transferred the trademark to his anti-vax compatriot, Del Bigtree, before it was transferred again to former Kennedy security lead, Gavin de Becker. Currently being used by a variety of MAHA-based organizations, the opportunity to monetize MAHA, the brand, could be directly affected by Kennedy’s policies. Given how much MAHA leadership loathes social services, more health-based privatization could be on the horizon—just as Projected 2025 prescribed. Derek winds down the rabbit hole into the MAHA trademark. Show Notes MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN - Trademark Details The MAHA Enterprise Explained Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Brief: Dr Mike vs MAHA

Brief: Dr Mike vs MAHA

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Dr Mike has become one of the most effective debunkers of science misinformation. His second appearance on the uber-popular show, Jubilee's Surrounded, pitted him against 20 fans of RFK Jr. Derek and Julian discuss the debate, as well as the value of Jubilee in an oversaturated media environment. Show Notes 1 Doctor vs 20 RFK Jr. Supporters (ft Doctor Mike) Surrounded Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Derek sits down with Dr Jessica Knurick at the Eudemonia Summit for this special live recording. They discuss combating health misinformation online, what MAHA gets right and wrong, whether or not "nutritionist" should be a protected term, and Jessica's possible political ambitions. Show Notes Dr Jessica Knurick on Substack | Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen to the full episode Matthew explores Marx’s “opium of the people” passage by placing it back into the philosophical and political project it came from. Marx was not attacking religion in some essential way, but criticizing the conditions that make religion necessary as a consolation. The problem is not faith itself, but the suffering — inequality, exploitation, alienation — that gives rise to the instinct for spiritual escape.  Marx’s atheism was not a New Atheist-type negation but a theological critique — a way of revealing how capitalism itself can displace Christianity as a religion of profit, rent, and wages. According to liberation theologian Enrique Dussel, Marx frames money as a jealous god, capital as the Antichrist, and private property as original sin. No wonder he is eternally hated.  Full show notes at https://www.conspirituality.net/episodes/brief-demonic-karl-marx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Matthew examines how Karl Marx has long been framed as a demonic threat to religion and private property — a tactic that sidesteps Marx’s actual critique of capitalism. J. Edgar Hoover, Ronald Reagan, and a raft of Evangelical blowhards cast communism as satanic and civilization-ending, a narrative now accelerating through Trump-era rhetoric, and Project 2025.  Capital is difficult to rebut directly, so detractors often attack Marx himself, calling him godless or deranged. Jordan Peterson and Paul Kengor treat Marx’s horny gothic teenage poems as literal evidence of demonic influence—which is much more interesting to them than taking surplus value, alienation, or commodity fetishism seriously. But the OG distorter of Marxist economics is the Catholic Church, beginning with Pius IX, who Red-Scared the 19th C faithful with a now-famous trick: conflating personal property with bourgeois private property. Marx targeted only the latter — profit-generating property — which the Church depended on then and still does today. Full show notes at https://www.conspirituality.net/episodes/brief-demonic-karl-marx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How does an elite Millennial politics reporter wind up having phone sex with and giving campaign advice to the 70-year-old emerging fascist she’s reporting on? Most of that should stay between Olivia Nuzzi and her therapist. What we do know is that American Canto, Nuzzi’s new book, is a memoir (or maybe novel) made for the conspirituality age, in which raging toxic roided-up hypocritical male charisma is always the center of attention. The domineering ghoul is the pole star of interest and fascination, always moving too fast and chaotically to understand—unless you know how fascism accelerates. We scavenge these pages for clues about Kennedy and how the hell this journalism disaster happened. Show Notes Zyn pouches and American Masculinity The Olivia Nuzzi Comeback Is Everything Wrong With Modern Media A Serious Journalism Scandal Hiding Inside a Frivolous Sexual One The Scandalous Rollout Was the Best Part of Olivia Nuzzi’s Memoir 119: We Are Slenderman (w/Kathleen Hale) The first-person industrial complex: How the harrowing personal essay took over the Internet. A Q&A with Olivia Nuzzi of New York magazine on her career, covering Trump and access journalism  Guests urged to be vaccinated at anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr’s party Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen to the full episode here Hasan Piker just spent two weeks in The People’s Republic of China. The famous streamer is often invoked as being a potential “Joe Rogan of The Left,” who might bring young voters, especially working class men, back into the Democratic Party.  But Piker’s livestreams from China raise controversial questions. Is he whitewashing Chinese human rights abuses? Was he paid by their government to propagandize his combined 5 million viewers? How else to explain first-class plane tickets, ultra-luxury hotel rooms, privileged access to forbidden Western social media, and carefully avoiding criticisms of the authoritarian state while waxing poetic about their country and Mao Zedong? Julian digs into Piker’s politics in the context of China’s tumultuous history. First stop: Tiananmen Square. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
"Immortality influencer" Bryan Johnson recently livestreamed his second-ever psilocybin trip "for science." But was it, really? Derek and Julian break down the performative nature of this stunt and discuss the growing right-wing influence on psychedelics culture. Show Notes Bryan Johnson Has Discovered Shrooms, and He Really Wants You to Know It Silicon Valley’s Man in the White House Is Benefiting Himself and His Friends How the Right Coopted Psychedelics Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
RFK Jr is one of the greatest perpetrators of a firehose of falsehoods that we’ve ever covered. The stakes were raised when he was installed as head of America’s public health system. A new longform article in The Atlantic offers an inside look at the history and current thinking of this man, as insightful for what it offers as telling for what it omits. We discuss the role of journalism in an age defined by propaganda. Show Notes Scoop: The new #2 at CDC is a top ivermectin prescriber who ended Louisiana’s vaccine-promotion media campaigns Doctor Critical of Vaccines Quietly Appointed as C.D.C.’s Second in Command CDC Quietly Turned Off Its Vaccine Search Tool. It’s Not Clear When It’s Coming Back. The Olivia Nuzzi and RFK Jr. Affair Is Messier Than We Ever Could Have Imagined RFK Jr. and the Inexplicable Appeal of Repulsive Men RFK Jr. is overhauling the program that helps preserve Americans' access to vaccines Why Is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. So Convinced He’s Right? Nature: Pertussis, A Tale of Two Vaccines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen to the full episode. With the CDC recently updating its website with anti-vax propaganda under the direction of RFK Jr, disgraced and disbarred physician, Andrew Wakefield, is back in the news. In fact, Senator Ron Johnson even tweeted out that he deserves an apology. He must be relying on short attention spans, given all the ways Wakefield manipulated the “study” that showed a link between vaccines and autism—even though the study itself found no such proof. Derek revisits the retracted 1998 study, as well as shows just how much proof exists to the contrary of the CDC’s new page. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Derek and Julian survey all of the incredible, life-changing deals going down this weekend in Wellnesslandia. Show Notes Influencers made millions pushing ‘wild’ births – now the Free Birth Society is linked to baby deaths around the world Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the wildly popular biohacking and longevity space, Peter Attia is often cited as one of the leading luminaries. His straightforward, science-backed approach seems to cut through the noise in a space dominated by fit bros and wellness grifters who always seem to have a product to sell. But the man who dropped out of residency at Johns Hopkins to found a private clinic focused on longevity has his share of critics, who are a bit suspicious about his self-experimentations—and the millions he makes counseling Silicon Valley insiders about experimental medicine. This week we take a look at longevity broadly and Attia specifically. Derek kicks off the episode with a recap of his time at Eudemonia Summit, where, among other things, he got to debate another leading biohacker, Dave Asprey, about seed oils. As it turns out, longevity was the top buzzword there as well. I Went to Eudemonia – a Wellness Summit with the Industry's Top Thought Leaders – Here's What It Was Like Outlive: A Critical Review  A Review of OUTLIVE Critiquing Peter Attia Andrew Huberman and Peter Attia: Self-enhancement, supplements & doughnuts? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This bonus episode is Part 2 of Graeber vs Bannon, Anarchism vs Leninism.  I start in the 1870s with Marx and Bakunin fighting over the joys and traumas of the Paris Commune. Marx sees it as an imperfect but historic prototype of a workers’ transitional state, cut down before it could consolidate power. Bakunin reads it as a betrayal of anarchist principles — too willing to replicate the machinery it meant to overthrow. Out of that conflict comes a rift that still haunts us: should revolution be disciplined, organized, and strategic, or spontaneous, horizontal, and permanently suspicious of institutions? I explore David Graeber as a hopeful modern anarchist, highlighting his idea of “everyday communism”—the mutual aid and cooperation we already practice—and his vision of Occupy as a revelation of our capacity to act as if we’re free. I contrast this with Marxist-Leninist critiques: the exhaustion of consensus, obstructionism, spectacle without strategy, and the refusal to make demands. A story about my late friend Michael Stone at an Occupy “mic check” shows how openness can invite opportunism. Finally, I contrast No King’s vagueness with MAGA’s fusion of mystical energy and disciplined technocracy—QAnon shamans backed by P2025 architects, vibes condensed to machinery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this first of a two-part series, I dig into a century-long debate within revolutionary politics—one that now shapes the fault lines between MAGA authoritarianism and the fragmented resistance against it.  How did the American far right end up using Leninist strategy more effectively than the American left? And what does that say about our own movements—our blind spots, our strengths, and inherited illusions? In 2013, Steve Bannon called himself a Leninist. In 2016, he openly called for the “deconstruction of the administrative state.” In Trump 2.0, he’s been an ideological whip for the  vanguardism of Project 2025. If Bannon has a foil, it was the late anthropologist David Graeber—Occupy organizer, anarchist, and author of The Dawn of Everything—who championed prefigurative politics and rejected the idea that the state could ever be an instrument of liberation. Drawing from Vincent Bevins’ If We Burn, I explore why a decade of globally interconnected mass movements failed to build lasting power—and how the right learned from their mistakes. We revisit January 6 through the lens of conspirituality influencers, we go to São Paulo to watch anarchist punk collectives lose the narrative to organized right-wing actors, and we return to Occupy to understand the spiritual hopes and organizational gaps that still shape protest culture today. Part 2 will dig deeper into Graeber’s legacy, the theological undertow of spontaneity vs. structure, and what younger activists may inherit if we don’t learn from the last half-century of revolt and repression. NOTE: Full citations are available on the episode page at https://www.conspirituality.net/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ryan Kendall

Where are parts 2 and 3?

Aug 18th
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astra

The Hadids contacted Lyme because they have an equestrian estate in New England. Being around horses in the affected geographic areas puts you at higher risk, and the New England countryside is littered with equestrian gated communities. I suspect that is why so many rich people have it.

Aug 14th
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Alex Pfeiffer

"GenZ men are drawn to fascism because it's exciting"..... the fact you think so low of young men and misinterpret everything associated with them as villianous is exactly why they leave. You three are the Democratic Party idiocy they voted against.

Jun 21st
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Alex Pfeiffer

"MAHA is 'Soft Eugenics'" wow... just wow.... jist when I thought you could not possibly sink lower in your selfish motivations to generate hysteria. You are something else.

Mar 12th
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ID28361368

A breath of fresh air! Thanks for the insights, well worth a listen…

Jan 31st
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Arin Gerth

wow I just found this podcast today and y'all chose to interview a known exorsexist weirdo. fastest unfollow in the West.

Oct 3rd
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Eric Lavoie

I'd really like to go through their pantries and fridge...

Sep 28th
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Alex Pfeiffer

This podcast is the biggest echo chamber of disinformation I've seen. There isn't a single Big Food or Big Pharma talking point built on sham studies you guys disagree with. I have to listen to you just to keep track of all the dumb shit you leak into the "good liberal" yoga community eco system. ie: You are shills for Big Industry and their selective faux science.

May 31st
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Alex Pfeiffer

Julian has fallen hard from the sensible person he was 15 years ago. Now he thinks everything is "right wing", "conspiracy theory" and other nonsense. Dellusion.

May 20th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Neal is right about EVERY criticism of you and he delivered it in a very friendly way. I hope you take them to heart, especially Mathew the paranioac.

Apr 26th
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Feb 4th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Another episode that has nothing to do with spirituality or conspiracy. Just another topic of Remski's favorite Hate Boner topic, complete with a string of dellusional nonsense.

Jan 10th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Very few will confront their misinformation that cost lives because it means facing themselves as morally flawed. Just look at this podcast and it's three hosts. I bet in 20 years when the moral fervor of this time has passed, you still won't.

Dec 14th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Julian, you've become so narrow in your perspective, you now see conspiracy theorists everywhere. You read into others things that don't exist. You shouldn't have pushed those with a different view out of your sensemaking circle. Now you see "narcissists" in those who simply have a differing view. Check your attachment to being the great rationalist. Between this and your echo chamber, your best efforts to be rational and against conspiracy bias are leading you to irrational conspiracy bia

Dec 10th
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Alex Pfeiffer

With your dellusions, the left will never regain it's cool factor. Among several other reasons that you're too tribal to understand, the Right has it because they know that traditional roles had good reasons, many of which were beneficial to women. The story is not one of oppression and those paying attention are starting to see how the state of dating and relationships makes it obvious. . Julian knows this, but because he is captured by your PMC audience, he has to pretend otherwise.

Oct 30th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Everyone knows that Brand was targeted because he was a rare heterodox voice that appealed to middle aged women (and that is the most coveted political demographic as it is the one to most vote in a block). Men generally don't pay him any attention. Their focus is on other heterodox voices. "Man Stans" barely exist. Not the first time this podcast was peddling in nonsense, is it?

Oct 19th
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Alex Pfeiffer

if it isn't the slander and yellow journalism podcast.... how you three faux intellectuals doing?

Oct 14th
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Alex Pfeiffer

The error you are referring to is called "scientific reductionism" which is exactly the error that this podcast constantly makes. It's why you got COVID massively wrong and why you are not much more than a hijacked tool for big pharma. Until you realize that your so-called 'evidence based medicine' is nothing more than 'pro the only interest groups that can afford massive studies'.... you are hopeless. I'm glad the yoga community is finally seeing through you and beginning to push back.

Sep 6th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Of course, this podcast doesn't ride the outrage machine at all!

Aug 4th
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Alex Pfeiffer

If I want someone to maximally misunderstand the world around them, this is the podcast I heartily recommend.

Jul 27th
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