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Author: Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

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Dismantling New Age cults, wellness grifters, and conspiracy-mad yogis. At best, the conspirituality movement attacks public health efforts in times of crisis. At worst, it fronts and recruits for the fever-dream of QAnon.As the alt-right and New Age horseshoe toward each other in a blur of disinformation, clear discourse, and good intentions get smothered. Charismatic influencers exploit their followers by co-opting conspiracy theories on a spectrum of intensity ranging from vaccines to child trafficking. In the process, spiritual beliefs that have nurtured creativity and meaning are transforming into memes of a quickly-globalizing paranoia.Conspirituality Podcast attempts to bring understanding to this landscape. A journalist, a cult researcher, and a philosophical skeptic discuss the stories, cognitive dissonances, and cultic dynamics tearing through the yoga, wellness, and new spirituality worlds. Mainstream outlets have noticed the problem. We crowd-source, research, analyze, and dream answers to it.

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Two weeks ago, several university administrators asked militarized police units to smash pro-Palestinian encampment protests on quads and in occupied buildings. It happened at places like Columbia and CUNY, and the University of Texas in Austin where our guest today, Dr. Peniel Joseph, teaches on the history of the Black Power movement.  In the midst of the news cycle frenzy, an old phrase began popping up in discussions of who the protestors were and whether the police actions were justified. Authorities said (and media figureheads repeated uncritically) that protestors were infiltrated and influenced by “outside agitators.” It’s a phrase with a long history to it. Joining Matthew to unpack it is Dr. Peniel Joseph, a historian of the Civil Rights era, during which time the trope reached peak exposure, when it was lobbed at Martin Luther King Jr., as he sat in Birmingham Jail. Show Notes Peniel E. Joseph NYPD Chief of Patrol on the “unknown entity” Thursday's Headlines: NYPD Discovers Chained Bike Locks Edition Nearly all Gaza campus protests in the US have been peaceful, study finds  Unmasking The 'Outside Agitator' Debunking the “Outside Agitator” Trope amid pro-Palestinian campus protests Cost of repairing occupation damage at Portland State library estimated at $750K Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Matthew is in the guest seat today! Why? Because in 2019—just months before the pandemic and this podcast kicked off—he published a book titled Practice and All is Coming: Abuse, Cult Dynamics and Healing in Yoga and Beyond. It focused on survivor stories of assault and abuse within the cultic mechanisms of Pattabhi Jois' Ashtanga Yoga community. The book also proposed a path into co-creating safer yoga communities via enhanced critical thinking, self-and-other-care, student empowerment, and community resilience.  In many ways, this book holds the keys to how one-third of the team has tackled the conspirituality era. Derek and Julian interview their colleague about it all on the occasion of the release of a second edition, now titled: Surviving Modern Yoga: Cult Dynamics, Charismatic Leaders, and What Survivors Can Teach Us (North Atlantic Books). Show Notes Surviving Modern Yoga by Matthew Remski | PenguinRandomHouse.com Yoga’s Culture of Sexual Abuse: Nine Women Tell Their Stories | The Walrus Survivors of an International Buddhist Cult Share Their Stories | The Walrus How a #MeToo Facebook Post Toppled a Yoga Icon | by Matthew Remski | GEN Shielded for Decades, A Yoga Leader's Alleged Sexual Abuse Finally Comes Under Fire How to Respond to Sexual Abuse Within a Yoga or Spiritual Community—Jubilee Cooke, Karen Rain  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In 2020, former NY Times journalist Isabel Wilkerson published Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. The book tells a compelling story: that the root of our social divisions is the invented hierarchical structure of castes, not, as we often assume in America, race. Race, she writes, is only another manifestation of caste. While it’s certainly an important topic here in America, Wilkerson shows, by investigating the longstanding caste system in India, the social divisions in Nazi Germany, and America’s founding and expansion through chattel slavery, that caste is a universal phenomenon. Derek discusses his thoughts on this powerful and important book. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr Sarah Ballantyne forged a career in science communication and health education advocating for autoimmune solutions in food and the paleo diet. In 2014, she began questioning her approach. Shortly after, she realized she was spreading nutrition misinformation and has dedicated her career to correcting those errors. Derek talks to Sarah about the dangers of diet and nutrition misinformation, dealing with obesity and eating disorders, and the challenges of talking about food in public. Her new book is Nutrivore: The Radical New Science for Getting the Nutrients You Need From the Food You Eat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We have a real treat today for listeners who love all forms of movement, especially yoga and strength training. Derek and Julian talk to Movement Logic hosts, Laurel Beversdorf and Sarah Court, who navigate the curvilinear path of creating irreverent yet high quality science-based movement content that sets teachers and students free from dogma and fear-mongering. Our two podcasts intersect by looking into fallen gurus, pseudoscience health claims, dodgy alignment dogmas, and cults of personality susceptible to the dangers of conspiracism. And this week we’re diving into a recent Movement Logic episode on back pain specialist, Stuart McGill. Yet, as this conversation shows, all hope is not lost, and all physical culture is not a pipeline into body fascism, or worse—multi-level marketing. There are still intelligent and grounded educators who share the love of movement, infused with the logic and humility of science. Laurel Beversdorf is an international yoga educator, a certified kettlebell specialist, and a strength coach. Sarah Court is a Doctor of Physical Therapy, movement mentor, and yoga teacher trainer. Show Notes Movement Logic Episode 62: Make McGill Make Sense Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the first full episode of this ongoing series, Matthew looks at the anti-abortion arcs of two men: Rob Schenck and Frank Pavone. Both leaders invested the images and remains of the unborn with passionate but imaginary desires that obscured from them how much harm they were causing.  One of them exited that highway, but the other is still burning it up. Includes the story of Kermit Gosnell, and how his Philadelphia abortion abattoir exemplified a political and moral disaster worthy of Naomi Klein. An obvious, organized crime, something that everyone could see but some tried to paper over, aided and abetted by the dominant order and progressive hypocrisy. Something that becomes the focal point of reasonable rage, but then leads to twisted conclusions.  Content warning: abortion details. Full Show Notes available on Patreon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The late historian of religion James Carse (1932-2020) made a radical proposal in his 2012 book, The Religious Case Against Belief. He argued that beliefs, far from being central to or definitive of religion, are actually antithetical to religious community.  A religion’s historical longevity, he argued, depends on its ability to absorb and neutralize beliefs—epistemological dead ends built on willful ignorance.  “The challenge to religion,” Carse says, “is not its opponents from without, but its believers from within, and the real enemy of religion is belief itself.” What does this mean for a project like Conspirituality and other projects of disillusionment carried out in the shadow of New Atheism and other modern skeptical movements? Blair Hodges of the Fireside and Family Proclamations podcasts joins Matthew to discuss a potential casualty of the battle against religious extremism: a nuanced understanding of religion itself. Show Notes The Religious Case Against Belief by James P. Carse Fireside with Blair Hodges Family Proclamations w/ Blair Hodges   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Robert F Kennedy, Jr isn’t backing down. You can’t get away from his voice or his endless content stream. He’s banked on tech world oligarch anti-vax mom, Nicole Shanahan, to nail down the VP slot. His Children’s Health Defense charity is casting doubt on whether polio was even a virus. And he keeps claiming he’s not against vaccines himself, but his messaging around it tells a different story. It’s been a few months since we’ve checked up on Chaos Kennedy, so it’s high time we did: to look at polling, rhetoric, and charismatic technique. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
"Human Biologist" and life coach Gary Brecka's star rose after biohacking UFC President Dana White's health. Yet Derek has a few questions this week: Is someone with a degree from a chiropractic college qualified to talk about seed oils, GMOs, depression, tinnitus, fluoride, detoxifying through water fasts, and diet plans? Is it concerning that his 10X Health System cofounder is a fervent Scientologist? And what happens when you actually read the science Brecka is linking to? Show Notes Worst U.S. cities for air pollution ranked in new American Lung Association report GMO Foods: How Genetically Modified Foods Sabotage Your Health | Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Are children and pregnant women risking their health by eating “GMO” foods? The American Association of Pediatrics controversially says ‘yes’. The real question: Is the AAP endangering the food vulnerable? Organic foods are not healthier...or pesticide free. A Comprehensive Review of Health-Benefiting Components in Rapeseed Oil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Deep Cut: On Belief

Deep Cut: On Belief

2024-04-2756:031

A Deep Cut from our Patreon archive (July 2023) What do we mean when we say that we believe something? When the QAnon Shaman got dressed on the morning of January 6, he put on his red, white, and blue face paint, his postmodern quasi-Native American horned fur hat, and grabbed the spear to which he had attached an American flag. In performance mode, this cosplay persona had already garnered him a taste of the attention that would soon increase exponentially as he became the most recognizable figure of the Capitol Riot. In today’s Bonus, Julian argues that his costume, as well as his ritual actions on that day were also an expression of a political worldview, run through with deeply held spiritual beliefs about the world and his role in it. The history of political religion, propagandistic conspiracies, and progressive spiritual convictions may show that—far from being trivial—belief is at the heart of the American, and perhaps the human, story. Intro music: Single Origins—Luz Cafe Interstitial: Silent Song—Eccodek (EarthRise SoundSystem Remix) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Neal Brennan has upped the artistic ante in stand-up comedy. In Netflix specials like "3 Mics and Blocks" he’s explored loneliness, isolation, and the mental health fallout of growing up the youngest of 10 in a Catholic family with an extremely unwell father. In the process he’s made some of the great mysteries of family pain and inner turmoil more tolerable. And—he’s a fan of our podcast, because in his search for relief, he’s tripped through the land of psychedelics, where conspirituality can sour the active ingredients. Neal joins us today to talk about his weird journey through the plant medicine scene, to wonder whether emotional and spiritual healing makes him funnier, and to answer our questions about how today’s comics are dealing—or not—with their supersized role as political pundits. His new special is called Crazy Good. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tensions between Israel and Iran escalated as supernaturally-charged conspiracy theories about the solar eclipse flooded the internet. And so Julian searched for answers about the mysterious “red heifer.” What is so special about a red cow? Might its discovery and ensuing journey from Texas to Jerusalem have played a role in the October 7 attacks? Why are zealots from all three Abrahamic religions so focused on one piece of holy real estate? Could apocalyptic prophecies actually be self-fulfilling, even when the metaphysics are make-believe? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Matthew is joined by Theo Wildcroft and Harriet McAtee, co-editors of The Yoga Teacher's Survival Guide: Social Justice, Science, Politics, and Power (Singing Dragon Publications), a volume of essays from 16 yoga world contributors. Three yoga culture critic nerds get into the weeds of how wellness workers and yoga teachers survive and navigate a post-pandemic world that exists at the crossroads of: capitalism and spirituality medicine and religion modern therapeutics and precolonial philosophy and caregiving gigwork and care work Theo is a yoga scholar. Harriet has been training yoga teachers for seven years in a little school in Oxford, UK. Show Notes The Yoga Teacher's Survival Guide | Singing Dragon - US  Theo Wildcroft  Harriet McAtee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
“Cult expert” Steve Hassan has been publicly concerned with the complex sociology of trans youth since 2020. We track that interest back to his communications with gender critical activists in 2017, who reached out to him because they believed that his cult theory could shed light on what they believed were nefarious aspects of the trans awareness movement. In the spirit of helpfulness, but without any chops in the subject, he stepped up to the plate and started swinging. Regardless of how earnest or paranoid his concern is, his access to this landscape has been bought with his intellectual legacy, and been filtered through networks that question trans identity altogether. His most inflammatory (but also silly) claim is that many young people are being hypnotized by online pornography and influenced by social media groups to the extent they inexorably choose medical transition. We investigate and analyze this unfortunate skid into the culture war mud. Hassan has stated at length his opposition to the “cancel culture” he believes is directed at Rowling and himself. This episode is not that. It’s a sober evaluation of legacy, disciplinary overreach, and what better public intellectual engagement would look like. Show Notes Full show notes posted to our website and Patreon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Following up on our Long COVID episode with Tara Haelle, Matthew will be expanding the Listener Stories portfolio with stories from listeners about navigating Long COVID. Why? Because there’s nothing like a mysterious disease, denied by some, stigmatized by others, and politicized by multiple interests, that will bring a person closer to the appeal of alt-med conspirituality. Matthew Stillman is our guest today. Author, documentary filmmaker, and lifelong New Yorker, Stillman grew up in an eccentric family of spiritualism and alternative medicine, but which also fostered a healthy respect for evidence-based medicine. So what happens when experts at Mt. Sinai Center for Post-COVID care reach the end of their capacity to help him with not one but two strains of Long COVID? Red light therapy! Chinese herbs! And a bracing contemplation of what it means to explore the tension between hope and knowledge. Show Notes Matthew Stillman The major genetic risk factor for severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neanderthals | Nature How Genes from Neanderthals Predispose People to Severe COVID-19 | The Scientist Magazine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Matthew is joined by historian Neil J. Young, co-host of the excellent Past Present Podcast, to talk about his new book: Coming Out Republican: a History of the Gay Right. Young’s riveting storytelling shows how, beginning in the aftermath of WWII, many American gay men—born into socially conservative and religious families from which they had struggled to individuate—hitched the wagon of their political hopes to a Republican party they believed would champion their privacy and individual civil rights.  Ground zero for their fiercely libertarian clubs and action committees was San Francisco, where a culture of rugged entrepreneurship fostered the slogan “Keep the government out of our bedrooms, and out of our wallets.” It was an individualist politics that looked to Civil Rights and women’s rights movements for inspiration, but not allyship.  In time that same GOP would lead a culture war against everything queer—paradoxically led by closeted gay politicians who, with deeply conflicted motives, legislated against their fellows. But even as the tide turned, many gay Republicans kept their shoulders to the unforgiving wheel of respectability politics. Young illuminates the flashes of bravery and self-reliance in these men’s stories, but also shows what happens when a marginalized group seeks acceptance and political power—instead of liberation—within a culture built on exclusion. Neil writes for WaPo, the Atlantic, CNN, the Los Angeles Times, Vox, Politico, Slate, and the New York Times.  Show Notes Coming Out Republican: A History of the Gay Right, Young Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
When Moms For Liberty attacks libraries with demands to ban books about MLK Jr and age-appropriate sex education, and claims that librarians are grooming their children into the trans agenda, they’re enacting the worst forms of neo-fascist bullying. But they’re also paradoxically defending a troubled American legacy against a librarian culture attempting to course-correct towards greater inclusion. To discuss this problem, Matthew talks to Heath Umbreit, a reference librarian who works at a public library in the northeastern U.S. Mis- and disinformation has been a professional and personal interest of theirs for several years; Heath's study of the phenomenon focuses on a critical examination of popular narratives about disinformation, the concept of epistemic supremacy, and the ways in which information and disinformation intersect with systemic power differentials in American society. Show Notes Derek gives the Keynote Address at the 2023 Oregon Library Association's Annual Conference Library Bill of Rights | Advocacy, Legislation & Issues  Students, authors fight censorship in PA schools  Kuo & Marwick, "Critical Disinformation Studies" Morales & Williams, "Moving Toward Transformative Librarianship: Naming and Identifying Epistemic Supremacy" danah boyd, "You Think You Want Media Literacy... Do You?" PEN America, 2023 Banned Books Update: Banned in the USA Kelly Jensen, Trauma, Book Bans, and Libraries: A Resource Guide for Library Workers, Library Supporters, and Beyond Kristen Browde, Who's Making News for Sex Crimes Involving Children? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Project 2025 is the libertarian conservative Heritage Foundation’s systematic governance plan for the next Republican president. The 920-page plan aims to implement the "unitary executive theory," which would give all of the power of the US government to the executive branch—Donald Trump, if he wins in November.  Derek and Julian read the chapter on the Department of Education, which focuses on unlocking public funds for Christian schools while banning any discussion on DEI, CRT, or gender theory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A common sentiment in wellness spaces is that people turn to alt-med practices due to the exorbitant costs of American healthcare. While the latter is certainly true, Derek and Julian discuss why a lot of products and services in wellness land is really just another form of extractive capitalism. Head to factormeals.com/conspirituality50 and use code conspirituality50 to get 50% off your first month plus 20% off your next month! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week we take stock of the full entrenchment of the Mirror World, where conspirituality influencers bask in the rays of confident delusion. After a little stage-setting on the heterodox mediasphere, we open with a snapshot of conspirituality Valhalla as we listen in on Joe Rogan and Chris Rufo talking about unhoused people as though they are children who haven’t been given good boundaries.  Then we’ll look at four instances in which the spectacle brokers meet reality. What happens when Chaya Raichik gets bodied by Taylor Lorenz? What happens when the Moms for Liberty have to explain themselves on 60 minutes? What happens when Destiny rejects Jordan Peterson’s bullshit? And what happens when the mack daddy of it all, Alex Jones, gets confronted by Sandy Hook parents, face to face? Does reality break through? Head to factormeals.com/conspirituality50 and use code conspirituality50 to get 50% off your first month plus 20% off your next month! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Alex Pfeiffer

Neal is right about EVERY criticism of you and he delivered it in a very friendly way. I hope you take them to heart, especially Mathew the paranioac.

Apr 26th
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Feb 4th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Another episode that has nothing to do with spirituality or conspiracy. Just another topic of Remski's favorite Hate Boner topic, complete with a string of dellusional nonsense.

Jan 10th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Very few will confront their misinformation that cost lives because it means facing themselves as morally flawed. Just look at this podcast and it's three hosts. I bet in 20 years when the moral fervor of this time has passed, you still won't.

Dec 14th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Julian, you've become so narrow in your perspective, you now see conspiracy theorists everywhere. You read into others things that don't exist. You shouldn't have pushed those with a different view out of your sensemaking circle. Now you see "narcissists" in those who simply have a differing view. Check your attachment to being the great rationalist. Between this and your echo chamber, your best efforts to be rational and against conspiracy bias are leading you to irrational conspiracy bia

Dec 10th
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Alex Pfeiffer

With your dellusions, the left will never regain it's cool factor. Among several other reasons that you're too tribal to understand, the Right has it because they know that traditional roles had good reasons, many of which were beneficial to women. The story is not one of oppression and those paying attention are starting to see how the state of dating and relationships makes it obvious. . Julian knows this, but because he is captured by your PMC audience, he has to pretend otherwise.

Oct 30th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Everyone knows that Brand was targeted because he was a rare heterodox voice that appealed to middle aged women (and that is the most coveted political demographic as it is the one to most vote in a block). Men generally don't pay him any attention. Their focus is on other heterodox voices. "Man Stans" barely exist. Not the first time this podcast was peddling in nonsense, is it?

Oct 19th
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Alex Pfeiffer

if it isn't the slander and yellow journalism podcast.... how you three faux intellectuals doing?

Oct 14th
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Alex Pfeiffer

The error you are referring to is called "scientific reductionism" which is exactly the error that this podcast constantly makes. It's why you got COVID massively wrong and why you are not much more than a hijacked tool for big pharma. Until you realize that your so-called 'evidence based medicine' is nothing more than 'pro the only interest groups that can afford massive studies'.... you are hopeless. I'm glad the yoga community is finally seeing through you and beginning to push back.

Sep 6th
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Alex Pfeiffer

Of course, this podcast doesn't ride the outrage machine at all!

Aug 4th
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Alex Pfeiffer

If I want someone to maximally misunderstand the world around them, this is the podcast I heartily recommend.

Jul 27th
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Alex Pfeiffer

You are a cult and see conspiracy and fascism everywhere. Just because your conspiracy theory is decentralized doesn't make you any less sophist than a flat earther. Thanks for showing us what the FoxNews of the yoga world looks like.

Jul 20th
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Alex Pfeiffer

You guys are hilarious. Unintentionally, of course.

Jul 20th
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Overzealous Euthanasiast

I also never liked hitting the k-hole, as a self-conscious person, it is like your sense of self gets squeezed through 1000 different dimensions and was quite anxiety inducing. However, there was a short while where a legal version called Methoxetamine was sold in my country, and that k-hole experience was borderline spiritual, no fear from not being able to define of find yourself at all. It's no longer available legally here but knowing an actual good version exists that hardly anyone's even heard of is a tad frustrating and lonely knowledge.

Apr 15th
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Trino Carrera

And therefore Judy Garland..speaking voice anyway.

Apr 14th
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Trino Carrera

Just realized that Marianne sounds like Liza Minelli.

Apr 14th
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Trino Carrera

Chaya Right-chick?

Jan 7th
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Trino Carrera

Wow. Candace Owens gets all her information about gsy people from one gay friend. Way to go.

Dec 24th
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Sarah Emy

Best. Crossover episode. Ever!!!

Dec 23rd
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Ki Ra

this is really disappointing. conspiritualists love anti-cancel culture discourse, and "canceled" and "woke" are both terms that had specific meanings within the Black community that were bastardized. demonizing them helps demonize the way Black people (and other marginalized groups) talk about their oppression. there are better, less buzzword-heavy, less dog-whistle-y ways to talk about the larger issues here.

Jul 5th
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