Cows in the field

A movie podcast inspired by a Werner Herzog quote, “We have to articulate ourselves, otherwise we would be cows in the field.” Hosted by Justin Khoo (professor of philosophy at MIT) and Laura Khoo (art historian turned fundraiser).

128. Drive (w/ Roxana Hadadi)

Cars, men, masculinity, westerns, scorpions, frogs, wanderers, conservative values, violence, very hot people, and more... it's Nicholas Winding Refn's DRIVE with Roxana Hadadi! Follow us on Twitter and Bluesky and Instagram! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

11-15
01:17:28

127. Song to Song (w/ Matt Strohl)

Join us and Matt Strohl (Philosophy, Montana) to live from Song to Song and discuss Terence Malick, genuine freedom, the challenges of dealing with aesthetic dismissal, the value of "difficult" art, family, situated abstractionism, art and commerce, temptation, regret, second chances, and much more! Buy Matt's new book, Hard to Watch!

11-01
01:32:51

126. The Fly (w/ Becca Rothfeld)

We get crazy with the flesh with Becca Rothfeld (The Washington Post) discussing David Cronenberg's 1986 film THE FLY. We discuss erotic transformation, de-evolution, gothic horror, mind/body interactions, Veronica's many excellent fits, inside-out baboons, and much more! Buy All Things are Too Small! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

10-18
59:41

125. Death Becomes Her (w/ Sean O'Connell)

Death becomes HER?! What does this title even mean? We get into that and more with Sean O'Connell (Managing Editor for @CinemaBlend and co-host of @ReelBlend). What is this film's ideological stance on the pursuit of beauty? We dig into that. What makes this film a queer masterpiece? Where does it fit into Bruce Willis's career? Who wore it (death) better -- Goldie or Meryl? 💀

10-04
01:13:21

124. I Saw the TV Glow (w/ Emily St. James)

We are joined by Emily St. James to discuss Jane Schoenbrun's excellent sophomore outing. We discuss transformative experiences, leaps of faith, egg cinema, kissing on the astral plane, nostalgia and the specialness of inaccessibility, and (if that's not enough) why we do this podcast at all! It's a very special episode, and we want to hear what you thought about the film! Email us at cowspod@gmail.com! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

09-20
01:18:52

123. Alien Romulus (w/ Scout Tafoya)

In space, no one can hear you deepfake a dead actor into your movie! We're joined by Scout Tafoya to talk Alien: Romulus. We discuss the film's thematic resonances with the Alien franchise, immigration, the fear of undifferentiation, psychoanalytic readings of the alien, human/android relationships, orphans in space, and go on many long rants about the state of movies and artificial intelligence. Join us! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

09-06
01:21:45

122. Altered States ( w/ Hit Factory Pod)

We are joined by Aaron Casias and Carly Gomes of Hit Factory to discuss William Hurt's first film, Ken Russell's wild and delirious Altered States! We discuss solipsism, God, losing faith, hallucinogens, academia, and why regressing into an ape form might be many conservatives ultimate fantasy. Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

08-23
01:20:54

121. Thelma and Louise (w/ Katey Rich)

We sit down with Katey Rich (The Ankler) to discuss Ridley Scott's macho film about two women's goodbye middle finger to the patriarchy. We discuss the film's radical rejection of stereotypical gender norms, the female gaze, women being friends, why Christopher McDonald is the funniest person ever, and whether Brad Pitt robs convenience stores shirtless or clothed. Come drive off a cliff with us! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

08-09
57:44

120. The Bling Ring

Crimewave summer continues with Sofia Coppola's film about celebrity thieves! We discuss the movie in the context of Coppola's filmography, her artistic motivations and the creative aspirations of the criminals the movie is about, criminal deniability, and, of course, Leslie Mann! It's all fun and games until someone gets a reality tv show. Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

07-26
56:10

119. Scarface (w/ Glenn Kenny)

DePalma, Stone, Pacino, Montana. We are joined by Glenn Kenny (author of The World is Yours: The Story of Scarface) to discuss excess, capitalism, happiness, tigers, sunken bathtubs, cocaine economics, and also the movie Scarface! Is it "Scar-face" or "Scarf-ace"? Who knows! Join us!

07-12
52:40

118. Public Enemies (w/ Liam Billingham and Phil Gawthorne)

The guys from Die Hard on a Blank are here to kick off CRIMEWAVE SUMMER and talk all things John Dillinger with us! Crime doesn't pay, but it sure is sexy, ain't it? We unpack several themes of the film: encroaching modernity, the birth of modern celebrity, looking to the past through the lens of the present. Also, we explore the magical look of the movie, due in large part to its unique use of digital cinematography (decreased dynamic range, 360 shutter angle, low light sensitivity). Check out Die Hard on a Blank! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

06-28
01:28:12

117. Bull Durham (w/ Noah Gittell)

Let us all worship at the Church of Baseball! We are joined to talk Bull Durham by Noah Gittell, author of the recent book Baseball: The Movie. We discuss the film's love of the game, its exploration of life after retirement, parenthood, expiration dating, learning how to breathe out of our eyelids, Annie Savoy's timeless style, and Laura's newfound crush, Kevin Costner. Buy Baseball: The Movie! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

06-14
01:18:16

116. Hot Tub Time Machine (w/ Mitchell Beaupre)

Let's get it started, in the TUB! We sit down with Mitchell Beaupre (Letterbox'd) to discuss male friendship, regrets, the allure of youth, reliving our best and worst days, the comic genius of Crispin Glover, and what happened in Cincinnati! Follow Mitchell on Twitter! Follow us on Twitter! Buy a cows shirt on Threadless!

05-31
01:08:52

115. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (w/ Edward Lewis)

What's a moody anti-Western got to do with mythmaking, outlaws, celebrity, bold robbers, parasocial relationships, betrayal, guilt, capitalism, Roger Deakins, Brad Pitt, and Casey Affleck? A lot, it turns out! Join us and Edward Lewis to explore the contours of Andrew Dominik's retelling of the end of Jesse James' life. We on Twitter! We on the web!

05-17
01:33:16

114. Sympathy for the Devil (w/ Yuval Adler and Matt Strohl)

Nicolas Cage has been on a run of making several movies a year for decades now, and Sympathy for the Devil is one of his latest experiments, a pulpy chamber piece road trip mystery suspense film co-starring Joel Kinnaman. We sit down with the film's director Yuval Adler (who also happened to get his PhD in philosophy from Columbia in the 90s!) and welcome back Matt Strohl (Philosophy, U. Montana) to discuss the film's inception, what it is like to work with Cage, how the film holds us in suspense despite withholding so much narrative material, and some of the film's themes surrounding guilt, revenge, and moving on from the past. We can't wait for you to hear about Nic Cage's process and his dedication to his craft, so tune in and be sure to check out Sympathy for the Devil, streaming everywhere now!

05-03
01:04:43

113. Dogville (w/ Agnes Callard)

Today we explore the dark recesses of the human soul with Agnes Callard (Chicago). We discuss von Trier's minimalist staging, the movie's parable, the duality of human nature, the lies we tell ourselves and others, the film's political angle, and the role of anger in response to true evil. Cows on Twitter!

04-19
01:24:30

112. Red Dawn (w/ Nat Hansen)

John Milius's 1984 film Red Dawn has a reputation as being a jingoistic conservative fever dream, but we talk with Nat Hansen, who argues that its political outlook is more complex and more interesting. Along the way, we also discuss the film's portrayal of masculinity, the toll of war, the film's many references, from The Battle of Algiers to Alexander Nevsky. Follow us on Twitter: @cowspod Buy a t-shirt or mug: cowspod.threadless.com

04-05
01:20:36

111. Dune Part Two (w/ John DeVore)

We go BACK to Arrakis, desert planet, homeworld of the spice and the Fremen and keeper of Shai Hulud. We're joined again for the journey by major spice-head John DeVore to discuss Villeneuve's two films in relation to Lynch's 1984 version and Frank Herbert's book. Along the way, we consider the worm Uber, the possibility of bad trips with the Water of Life, the lack of St. Alia of the Knife, the deliberate backgrounding of the more mystical elements of the novel, and the film's magnificent score. Repeat after us: "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion... fear is the mindkiller... long live the fighters... and power over spice is power over all!" Preorder John's book, "Theater Kids: A True Tale of Off Off Broadway" now!

03-22
01:51:41

110. The 2024 Blobscars! (w/Sean Burns)

Join us and critic Sean Burns to give out silly meaningless awards to our favorite films of 2023! Who will take home the top prize? Who will win best lisp? Tune in to find out!

03-08
02:03:00

109. The Iron Claw (w/ Fran Hoepfner)

We are joined by Fran Hoepfner (BW/DR, Fran Magazine) to experience the triumph and tragedy of the Von Erich family. We discuss wrestling (duh), Zac, brothers, fathers, bodies, cults, the American political circus, all while trying to figure out our wrestling names and signature moves.

02-16
01:11:26

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