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Creator Science

Author: Jay Clouse

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Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, experimentation, and iteration.

This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies and experiments you can apply to your business. Each episode features candid conversations with today’s top creators—like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez—sharing actionable insights to help you grow your audience, build trust, and boost your income.

This isn’t just an interview podcast—it’s a deep dive into the business of content, hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse.

It's growth for creators, down to a science.

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Justin Moore is a sponsorship coach who has generated over $5,000,000 in brand partnerships. As a full-time creator since 2014 and a former influencer marketing agency owner, he brings unique insider knowledge of how brands evaluate and select their ideal partners. Through his school, community, and latest book, Sponsor Magnet, Justin shares proven frameworks for attracting, pricing, and executing lucrative brand deals with a mission to help creators big and small land one million paid sponsorships. Justin's first-ever book is now available for purchase. It's called Sponsor Magnet: How to Attract, Price, and Execute Your Dream Brand Partnerships. I was an early reader of Sponsor Magnet, and I enthusiastically endorsed this book. In this conversation, we get candid about the highs and lows of writing this book, including launching it just ahead of his first-ever in-person event Sponsor Games, which I will be at in March of this year. →Get a free copy of Sponsor Magnet Justin's Website / Instagram / Twitter / YouTube / TikTok *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #160: Tori Dunlap – A transparent look at writing a New York Times best-selling book. The process, numbers, and lessons learned. → #176: April Dunford – How self-publishing a book exploded her client service business. *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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Rachel Botsman is a leading expert on trust in the modern world. She is the author of 3 critically acclaimed books, What's Mine is Yours, Who Can You Trust, and How to Trust and Be Trusted, that have been translated into 14 languages. That last one, How to Trust and Be Trusted, is brand new and actually just released today in audio only, which is a fascinating decision that we'll also discuss later in the conversation. Rachel is consistently recognized as a top keynote speaker, and her TED Talks have been viewed more than 5,000,000 times. If there's anyone who understands trust more than Rachel, I haven't found them yet. → How to Trust and Be Trusted - Audible & Spotify Full transcript and show notes Rachel's Website / Instagram / LinkedIn *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #219: Robin Dreeke – How to earn someone’s trust (from a former FBI special agent) *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
Mike Michalowicz is the author of Profit First, which is used by hundreds of thousands of companies across the globe to drive profit – Creator Science is one of those companies. Profit First has helped me develop sound financials for my business. He’s also the author of Clockwork, a powerful method to make any business run on automatic, and seven other books as well. With more than 500,000 book sales, all of Mike’s books have the same goal – to help small business owners and eliminate what he calls “entrepreneurial poverty.” Simon Sinek has called Mike “…the top contender for the patron saint of entrepreneurs.” This conversation is divided into halves: The first half explores Mike’s unique model as an author. For each book Mike writes, he partners with a third party to license the frameworks from his books and serve as the done-for-you service provider. This is super uncommon and part of why he’s been so prolific while running a very lean team. So we dig into how that works (and what he’d do differently if he were starting over today). The second half of the conversation is all about writing books. Mike has published nine books since 2008 – including 7 in the last 8 years. So we dig into how he determines what ideas to turn into books and how to write them so quickly. Full transcript and show notes Mike's Website / Twitter / Instagram / YouTube / LinkedIn *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #176: April Dunford – How self-publishing a book exploded her client service business. *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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Garrett Kennell is the Chief Creative Officer for - and husband to - Michelle Khare. Garrett has been working on the channel since Michelle’s very first video all the way back in 2016. Since that first video, their channel has grown to nearly 5 million subscribers and has over 740 million views, making it one of the most intense and complicated productions YouTube has ever seen. Their secret? They have a process for everything. In this episode, Garrett breaks some of those processes down, including brainstorming, decision-making, and how YOU can start to make bigger, better videos at any scale. Full transcript and show notes Garrett's Twitter / YouTube / Instagram *** TIMESTAMPS (00:00) The Most Insane Production on YouTube (01:33) How Michelle Khare’s Channel Evolved (07:14) How Much a Michelle Khare Video Costs (10:19) Grow Your Podcast With Spotify (11:36) Bono’s Six Thinking Hats (17:43) Getting Rejected (21:20) Thinking Big (23:51) How Challenge Accepted Gets Made (29:23) Making Content for Impact (32:34) When is Something Done? (34:07) Where Do Things Go Wrong? (39:44) Systems and Processes (43:48) Getting Sponsors (48:55) Advice to Grow Quickly *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #202: Zack Honarvar – What he learned from working with 10,000 creators *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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Dan Andrews founded the Dynamite Circle and Dynamite Jobs and is now a repeat guest. Dan was first on the show in episode #32 in November 2020. I've been listening to Dan's podcast, Tropical MBA, since 2014, and that was 5 years after they started. Tropical MBA started as a podcast for location-independent entrepreneurs and has grown into a thriving global community. The Dynamite Circle is a paid membership community that Dan and his partner, Ian, built from the podcast's success. It has more than 1,000 members, dozens of local meetups, and 5 signature events throughout the year; the Dynamite Circle has continued to innovate as a member-led community. This is a 2 part episode. The second half of this conversation can be found on Dan's podcast, Tropical MBA, and will be released on Thursday. → Subscribe to Tropical MBA → Join The Lab Full transcript and show notes Dan's Website / Twitter / Instagram / YouTube *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #32: Dan Andrews – Helping location independent entrepreneurs build businesses and find community *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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YouTubers keep a lot of secrets, but that's not really my style. So last week, I asked my audience for questions that creators are typically too afraid to answer. How much does this channel make? What are my politics? And how much time do I actually spend working? In this video, my producer, Conor, and I answer all these questions and more with complete transparency. Full transcript and show notes Conor's Twitter / Instagram *** TIMESTAMPS (0:00:00) How Much Does a 100K Channel Make? (0:02:26) What Does a 100K Channel Charge for Brand Deals (0:09:25) AdSense and Brand Deals Are Overhyped (0:13:09) Pros and Cons of Talking About Politics (0:21:01) The Biggest Threat to the Channel (0:23:08) Most YouTubers Aren’t As Successful As You Think (0:28:26) Downsides of Being a Parent and a YouTuber (0:33:21) How Much Does a YouTuber ACTUALLY Work? (0:38:02) Promoting Products You Don’t Believe In (0:44:06) Is the Creator Economy Eating Itself? (0:49:34) Hidden Gems You Should Watch (0:55:08) Why Are YouTubers Secretive? (0:59:53) Don’t Listen to This Common Growth Advice (1:04:22) How to Spot Fake Gurus (1:08:50) YouTubers Who Lie to Their Audience (1:11:20) Trends That Will Die Quickly (1:14:29) Parasocial Relationships (1:20:15) When a Channel Dies (1:22:23) How Long to Get to $8k/month in Revenue (1:24:48) Maintaining Relationships As You Get Older (1:30:11) The Right Way to Raise Prices *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → Answering the Questions you're afraid to ask [YouTube] *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
Natasha Willis is the woman behind the conversational marketing agency School of Bots, which has generated over $70,000,000 for clients like Tori Dunlap, Jenna Kutcher, and even Facebook. In this episode, Natasha reveals how you can use automated direct messages to grow your email list, how to generate more revenue, and her secrets on how to increase your organic reach on Instagram. @natashatwillis → message “JAY” Full transcript and show notes Natasha's Website / Twitter / Instagram / YouTube / LinkedIn *** TIMESTAMPS (00:00) The Chatbot Queen (01:04) What is Conversational Marketing (02:28) Conversational Marketing Platforms (04:40) Understanding the Customer Journey (10:22) DM Automation Tools (14:20) Can You Tell it’s Not a Real Person? (18:33) What To Do Before You Get Started (24:14) Does Follower Count Matter? (25:41) Inflated Follower Counts (30:41) The 3 Types of Instagram Posts to Grow (35:34) $400K in 4 Months Strategy (43:29) Simplify to Amplify (45:43) Use Cases for DM Automation (49:28) Using Instagram Stories (53:47) What You Do Next *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #88: Tori Dunlap – Building an audience of millions on TikTok with Her First $100K *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
Richard van der Blom is the founder of Just Connecting, a social selling and LinkedIn training consultancy based in the Netherlands. And with nearly 200,000 followers on LinkedIn, he's one of the most respected voices on the platform. Richard was really early to LinkedIn. And as his own reach grew, he started getting a lot of questions about how to best use the platform. 5 years ago, Richard started creating an annual LinkedIn algorithm insights research report. This thing is a gold mine of data driven observations about how different aspects of LinkedIn are working and even how they are trending compared to the year before. In this episode you'll learn Why LinkedIn reach may be down What formats are most effective right now How to use LinkedIn as a lead generation And you'll get a feature by feature breakdown of how Richard himself uses LinkedIn Full transcript and show notes Read the 2024 LinkedIn Algorithm Report Richard's Website / LinkedIn Listen to episode #127 with Daniel Murray *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #170: Justin Welsh Returns *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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In this episode, I answer the questions you're afraid to ask. I very explicitly asked people on my social media, "What are the questions you're afraid to ask me?" Things that feel a little bit off limits or taboo. And we got a lot, a lot of great questions. → Get your questions answered Full transcript and show notes *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #215: How I Would Hit 100K YouTube Subscribers in 1 Year (If I Could Start Over) *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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Jonny Miller is the creator of Nervous System Mastery. It teaches evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm, build resilience, and increase aliveness in 45 days. It’s a five-week, cohort-based course that is just wrapping up its sixth cohort in the last three years. In those six cohorts, Jonny has served nearly 1,000 students and earned more than $800,000. Here’s the best part – Jonny doesn’t have a massive audience. When he launched Nervous System Mastery, he had a couple thousand followers on Twitter and a small email list. This is the magic of a well-designed Signature Product – and Jonny is the perfect example. In this episode, we get into the weeds about how he’s grown NSM – what’s worked well, what hasn’t, and how he’s found himself on large podcasts with people like Lenny Rachitsky, Ali Abdaal, Chris Williamson, and more. → Join Nervous System Mastery Full transcript and show notes Jonny's Website / Twitter / Instagram / LinkedIn *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #221: Ryan Hawk – Anatomy of a $12,500 membership earning $400,000+ per year *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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Chef PK is a cooking YouTuber whose anime food channel has done 67,000,000 views. But that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking about physical products. At a 100,000 subscribers he launched his first book, and did about 40,000 in revenue. In this episode, you'll learn how to brainstorm product ideas, how to find product audience fit, and how to bring an idea into reality. Full transcript and show notes Chef PK's Website / Twitter / Instagram / YouTube *** TIMESTAMPS (00:00) What Happens When an Anime Chef Makes Merch? (01:05) ChefPK’s Product Rundown (02:11) Revenue Breakdown (03:37) Evolving from Channel to Business (07:07) Using Patreon as a YouTuber (13:09) Evolving from Channel to Business II (16:30) Figuring Out How to Make a Physical Product (19:56) Figuring Out What Your Audience Really Wants (24:32) Why You Should Sponsor Your Own Videos (28:50) Evolving from Channel to Business III (35:13) CCN Framework for Product Development (38:27) Getting Over Limiting Beliefs (40:02) Time and Cost of Product Development (42:54) Balancing Running Your Channel and Building a Business (45:52) Evolving from Channel to Business IV (47:31) The Advice You Need to Hear *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #130: Sarah Renae Clark – How This YouTuber Built A $200K/mo Coloring Book Empire *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
Let me know what you think! Leave a comment on Spotify or tag me (@jayclouse). ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
Ryan Hawk is a keynote speaker and the host of the Learning Leader Show. The show has been listened to by millions of people in more than 150 countries, and Forbes called it, “the most dynamic leadership podcast around.” He’s also the author of Welcome to Management: How To Grow From Top Performer To Excellent Leader. Ryan is actually a repeat guest—he was first on the show in episode #61 to talk about his podcasting journey. He’s become a friend and someone I really admire for his intentionality and the way he shows up for others—his friends, his family, and his community. Ryan’s business isn’t built on podcast advertising, as one may expect. It’s actually built on what he calls Leadership CIRCLES. These are groups of 10-15 people that he hand-selects for a group learning experience. They meet once per month on Zoom and once per year in person. In this episode, Ryan breaks down the specifics of how he runs these programs, prices them, and plans to grow them. We even workshop some of his questions on the fly. → Listen to my first episode with Ryan → Join The Lab Full transcript and show notes Ryan's Website / Twitter / Instagram / Facebook / YouTube / LinkedIn *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE → #187: Michael Stelzner – How to run profitable events (without sponsors or selling from the stage) → #144: Bari Baumgardner – How to create the perfect 3-day event (IRL or virtually) → #206: How I’d approach hosting in-person events *** ASK CREATOR SCIENCE → Submit your question here *** WHEN YOU'RE READY 📬 Creator Science Newsletter 🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system) 🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community) 🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer *** CONNECT 🐦 Connect on Twitter 📸 Connect on Instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe on YouTube *** SPONSORS 💼 View all sponsors and offers *** SAY THANKS 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify
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Ya Husirius

very informative, thank you

Sep 29th
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Henry Suryawirawan

Great insights from James! Very refreshing, outside of the usual topic that he talks about.

Sep 27th
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felipe arvizu

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Aug 27th
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No battle

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Jesse Houk

Great content!

Jun 24th
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it was great to listen!

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Fadi

excellent episode!

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