Curious Creatures

‘The people I remember…’Mutual respect, the Bloc Party hadKele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s badTogether on tour, but then things changeRussell ‘n Kele retain musical respect Musical Respect is a necessary thing Banshees Guitarists, All the Young JohnsSpizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands Having kids and Touring Keep us Peter Pan style. Chilli Pepper pals, Prodigal Sons ‘In the desert you can remember your name’‘Life’s What You Make It’  The Cure take MTV - Budgie signs autographs ‘Down the Pub. ‘The Great Covid Reset’A Non-Touring fantasy - A new way of life?Touring and sleeping go hand in hand!Kele, wants the father-child relationship Lol had none with his father So, he turned it around for his own sonBudgie’s dad was always present Kele’s dad was proud and healing  Budgie’s dad said, “Do whatever makes you happy.” Lol’s mum gave him a love of art and literature  Lol’s mum said - “I like the new single by The Clash”Fun times meeting US Campus kids – smelled like team spirit ABC - The Look of Love - Money Makes the World go Round Art for Art’s sake – Money for God’s sakeBritish Art space receding - young artists and crew get no SupportFeeling the Fallout of the covid years Love to Kele’s family and toi-toi for the tour! Life’s always a giggle with Budgie and Lol!  ___Respect: John Prine (October 10, 1946 – April 7, 2020)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of BrexitKele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool Budgie in France, London and BerlinLol in the USA for 25 yearsOld UK market towns when the pubs are closed Would anyone want a return to 70’s England? Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons?Strawberries full of chemicals? Capitalism - Free labour?Big Agri eats labour  Children pick berries - Human nature stagnates Automation stealing jobs - packing our bagsArmed response in Beverly Hills Belfast’s most bombed hotel - we’re all in the BarHands up!  Berlin still an island with lots of space Kele, Lol and Budgie went to Catholic school Altar boys all, singing magi and LatinTeenagers rebelling against Catholic guilt 40 years later we have hopefully matured  Not normal to sublimate the ego in your 20’sThat’s what it takes for a band to work A Catch 22 – Few bands remain as first formed If only The Cure had taken a break from the 4th album …A recipe for disaster - everyone loves a rock star, staring into the abyss. ___Respect: Joseph Heller (May 1st 1923 – December 12 1999)___CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Invisible Darlings - Fast piano  Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant  Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter  Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists  Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune  Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by 7  Lol & Budgie loved “In Search of Space” Dik-Mik & Lemmy - hippies and punks Damn Skippy – A Darker psychedeliaBeing open to change - Animal Collective’s philosophy  Grow and move on - Nothing lasts  David curious about creative Psychedelics - was Pornography Psychedelic? Challenging times - But Lol’s favourite Cure albumBudgie in a Camden Dreamhouse - Dinner in a Greek restaurant The Cure as a psychedelic punk band. Trout Mask Replica - Strange Days from The DoorsRobert sings backwards at 4 am  Music’s a trip! ___Respect: Lemmy Kilmister (24 December 1945 – 28 December 2015)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live   OMD and Echo and The BunnymenBudgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbalLol and Budgie and the Punk revolutionLoose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisationAvey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno! What’s the patch Today Kids? Animal Collective and Broken Flangers -The future of Music Axis Bold as Love Orgasmic tape flanging!Is the Solina Dutch or Italian? The Mirage worked with beer - The Synare Synth drum broke  Love and Hate In the 80’sAC early days in NYC - Distance and Creation You could play a good tour as your profession.Competition’s not real. Right on!The Internet Ruins Everything it Touches Iowa City Flashback!  “The Devil’s loins’, says Budgie - “Half and half”, says Avey  Flyers in Ashville Oasis – Oklahoma, the city of Flaming Lips Huge airport - No people - Deja Vu or What!? Mr Moog and Mr Buchla “The Buchla is Goth!”, says LolNo Manual - Anything could happen!Avey took his music easel on Tour!Never again RTFM! ___Respect: Robert Arthur Moog (May 23, 1934 – August 21, 2005)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wild is the Wind & VulnerabilityBudgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band!Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-SoundWhen Garbage played their first London show in 1995Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy ChainsawShirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie  Golden Years30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chairShirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent A Hard time in LA during lockdown had Shirley return to Scotland asap Little Red CorvetteLol and Budgie dreamed of driving - Shirley drives electric dreamsNow all is Zen behind the wheel - Saving the Rage for the StageShirley was bullied as a kid - SATB helped her become Empowered!Lol and Shirley like Being Stupid sometimes  Break-Up to Make-Up On Tour with The Creatures, came Budgie’s wake-up call Like an old British sitcom, Lol and Budgie share similar experiences Garbage had to break-up to stay together – to ignore what was being said  The Cure & Banshees were too young to know - a year out might have saved them.  Don’t Talk to Me About LoveWe talk about the C-word - Shirley wants the T-shirt!Leaving The Cure was like Lol leaving his family or Excommunication! To understand change is not easy - such a huge part of our identity. Budgie has come to know love’s changesBeing in a band is like being married - the Pot calling the Kettle Black! ChangesShirley succinctly explains being in a bandRelieved that the band has adjusted to her changes  Shirley humbled by hip surgery - a triumphant story!Shirley says, forget your ego - enjoy life and seize the day.Ringo Starr says… Up yer bum! ____Respect: John Lennon (October 9th 1940 – December 8th 1980) ‘Instant Karma’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudesFinding a better way – with People that healBudgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen  Lol is Awake - Right Now!Meg stops to smell the flowersDiscovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration Don’t force it - Don’t plan it‘Hell is other people.’ said Sartre The Volcanoes of Hawaii tempted The Creatures to Feast! Dogs are Wizards - Cats are Bosses!Preparing to tour - Sad to leave the catsSafe and comfortable on stage  Things get Manifested when you’re Connected In Sound and Vision Meg feels Fully Realised. Lol and Budgie - Keeping it Together! Time to Explore - Madeira Cake - Port - Bananas - Biblical Creativity comes when it wants to be Created Hair as Prayer – Lol’s dream of a Mohawk on the Astral plane Meditating - Downloads and Alignment Meg’s Dreams are her Guides! ____Respect: Simone de Beauvoir (9 January 1908 – 14 April 1986) "The Second Sex - 1949" ____ Check out Meg On Tour - April 17th thru’ May 24th  CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Not the Body.Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to herNo more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer spacean epiphany of self-realization.  One Universe of Expression.  Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdomRemoving the armour of invention Tiny deaths brought release and growth  The Id not The EgoReleased from the toxicity and trauma of childhoodMeg finds new expression of self and spirit through music Resisting all outside intrusions to take time to Create a safe channel. Open to Greater Wisdom‘When there is no me, there is more authenticity.’Meg’s process of Evolution? - Hacking the System!a major perspective shift, an all-knowing Higher self Nothing to be done and Everything will be done. Hmmm…. Exactly! ____ Respect: Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973)"Strange Things Happening Every Day"____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette  The NIN drum throne came free againBeck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of FameSays, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes! TOTP not OGWTIf we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba?Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life! More About Drums and Food!Guitarists and singers may minimize the drums but a good drummer is the making of most bands Rhythm and Voice are what most people get.Budgie drummed melodies and chords on the Kit But We Do Dig Guitarists Man!The Violin out-foxed Ilan – too strenuous to learn. No woodwind or Brass but now he plays the clarinet!Budgie left France for Berlin because Toby Dammit’s shoes sounded good.Ten Years After, and Berlin’s still, Grotty, Grimy and Grizzly  Los Angeles is Super-efficient Between tours it’s cool - Before tours it’s cool – After tours it’s cool!Lol didn’t plan to live in LA - he found Love and Acceptance Los Angeles is Lol’s Home Sweet HomeBudgie thought LA would be his too?  SIR – Into The Valley!Indicators out of Sync? - Drummers needing Therapy?Taiko and Dancing? - Lol 3rd Act Lessons? Budgie and Leo’s O’Daiko? - Let the Sticks do the Talking?Lol and Budgie want Roland Taikos to Dance with – Non-Dancing-Dancing!  ____ Respect: Alvin Lee (1944 – 2013) ‘Ten Years After’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing deskNo exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night)Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums Instantaneous?Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains Will Budgie live in Lols garage?Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! Budgie and the tricks of The Creatures Russian Dragon?Illan relives the Moment of Terror when his IEMs fell out.It’s time to change when Smoke and Mirrors obscure allIlan’s drum kit disappears in smoke – where does he go? Smoke and strobes transport Ilan. Drummers Corner:  Ilan is right handed but he plays the hi-hat leftie Reggae showed Budgie a different drum style  Titilating Titbits:Ilan loves Stewart Copeland’s mix of rock and reggaeLol plays to the voices in his headBudgie only sings when the extractor fan is in his key. Ilans toothbrush goes from major to minor.Doesn’t Yours?  ____Respect: Jaki Liebezeit (26 May 1938– 22 January 2017) CAN____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything.It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changedIt's good the world changed too.  Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watchLol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drummingThe Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time  Gilbert and George v Lol and BudgieDrinking with The Wankers at 5amFrom Whitechapel to SohoBrit Pop was a marketing construct. Elastica’s difficult 2nd album took them to France  Siouxsie and Budgie’s house for inspirational teaThere should be a Book – Book Events are Cool People always ask the question that isn't a question  Miki wasn't part of any club's eliteWho’d want to be a member of the club that would have us as a member? Miki felt humiliated amongst the paraphernalia of professional drug takers Miki was not good with drugs – a weeping-jello-mess-in-crisis in the corner Lol backed off from it – a blessing in disguise. Drugs took away a lot of personalities, all looking for a good time Peer Pressure - You’re either built for it or you’re not. The High was a Low on so many levels Blimey! - We could talk forever! Did Budgie inhale?  ____Respect: Nico – (1938 – 1988) ‘Chelsea Girl’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miki as Unsettled global travellerMiki as Chameleon in retreat Miki and band as family What the industry wants, the public gets. Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bandsFor the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating    TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign Lol went off the rails at 22 The Cure should have taken a break Delivering product can destroy a bandThe Brits love you then hate you, the USA loves you, then loves you again. The Press Conspire!The Cure and Miki in LA for MTVBands had to fight for the right to be on a UK stage In the USA they were simply loved and welcomed. Lollapalooza!  Music in America professional and respectable.Butthole surfers wanted Banshees’ Butter in their trailer Banshees witness others on a traveling circus tour – Mad but Brilliant! Miki says the whole shebang was like a Bon Jovi tour. Miki’s Admirable traits RevealedFestivals - a recipe for disaster  Miki felt weird - like endless days in an Amusement ParkNine weeks of touring - Connections went missing  ____ Respect: Nina Simone – (1933 – 2003) ____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show?Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match!Struck up many enlightening conversations!!The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars. Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans!We were all young then! Emotional Babies! Budgie and Lol love Miki’s Memoir! Honest and Authentic - which it’s hard to Be. Miki and Lol shared the same streets of London but never met.We walked everywhere - no phones - no way to contact Like a homing pigeon Budgie always found his way home Miki followed the tube stations - Roaming with Emma but no walkie-talkie in 5 years!  Complex Band relationships suffer from outside pressure and from people with chisels. Lol empathises 100 % Miki’s experience with Emma - as his with Robert.  Will we all ever speak again? Is Morrissey bitter? Many memoirs end with courtroom drama. Malcom was a rotter says Lydon. Morrissey needs an editor says Lol! That’s a complement says Miki – it’s a proper Mills & Boon.   Miki haunted by Mike Hedges’ old house in France. Lol recalls a depressing Disintegration. But Pool table respite with Simon and the funny cue ball.  Lol loved Miraval. The Slits loved being looked after at Ridge Farm Studios. Budgie met Viv again at a Berlin book festival - they had cake and tea and grown-up conversations.  Miki is happy she had the band but happier in her new job - she’s had the best of both worlds. Lol wanted to be present for his son and so no touring thru’ his teens. We love writing as much as making music - Lol ran away at the destruction of the band. He came to America and America saved him. ____‘God Bless America’ – Irving Berlin. (1888 – 1989) ____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was The Birthday Party’s 1st London gig When Budgie gate-crashed their dressing room The party was a witty one from midnight ‘til DawnMelting in the daylight at 7am, all bright and scrubbed. Editing for K-Tel specials,Nick fearlessly edits the multi-track vertically AND horizontally!Lol bought ‘The Lamb’, with a scratch that jumped in time - A miracle! Budgie feels the spirit of ‘76 with The Chats’ Smoko,& Amyl and the Sniffers - Listen to the Big Bass Drum Lolly T and Mickey D went for Lunch in NYC Their Taxi driver played only hip-hop When The Cure came on the radio the guitars made his jaw drop! Nick was 21 on The Dreaming with Kate Bush Her sonic landscape was like The Banshees and PILLol never played to a click track – only to Robert’s voice Back when drummers kept the time! Nick’s big plans lead to ‘Peaky Blinders’ Season 6 Working with Anna Calvi, Who Budgie helped make smile again.After Anna had destroyed her dressing room!  And when Lol felt The Cure played a peaky-blinder of a gig,Robert hated it and vice versa.“That’s The Drummers Dilemma” says Budgie With IEM’s Lol heard Simon for the time ever!  The Banshees and Mötörhead shared crews and gearWe all loved Lemmy - Budgie and Phil-thy ‘Animal’ TaylorWere drummers in dance tightsWe’re happy we survived – and we’re not done yet!Iggy P., and Anna C., you heard it here first … Respect: Percy Edwards – Ornithologist (June 1, 1908 – June 7, 1996)Animal Sounds on The Dreaming   CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol in Tasmania small and cool. Damien Hirst diamonds and Berlin fish Fool Kevorkian death blanket is the best in showMedical flip-flops in the house of Ringo. Virgin Townhouse & Hedges’ Battery.  Nick and Phil Collins in drum-fill Flattery Terry Chambers and XTC – in Another Green World lives a young Budgie Nick began life in Southern Spain – moved to London for the Pistols reignGood with loops Nick remixed tapes  M’s “Pop Music” gave the biggest breaks  Got Nick the job with Lydon’s PILCoz’ the engineer made Johnny ill “Let’s make some Fackin’ music” – “We mean it man!” Turned Nick’s life ‘round – Lol, Clash, Budgie, Bovell, Slits can! Nick Cave and Budgie - harmonica Kings Nick and Nick Release the Bats and thingsBudgie at the Rock Garden for the Birthday Party Lol at the Marquee but Bob’s not a Smartie?Budgie and Bob pretend they’re themselvesSteve Strange showed Budgie how to shoplift the shelves Budgie in the eye of the movers and shakers An 8 piece Suicide band – any takers?Nick almost Cured in the Townhouse grounds Cure wanted Conny Plank ‘s Animal sounds We’re older than the fans - but still in Our prime We never worked with Nick - but there’s Always time! CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Life was bad - only music will save Lol & Robert see the Stranglers together Worship at the thrones of Tama and ZildjianLols first kit - took years to buy! Budgie’s first kit has a facelift for Cut  Meet the creme de la creme of Liverpool misfitsHansa signed The Cure for the way they looked  Julianne is transformed when playing live Budgie loves talking to the audience - offstageLol prefers a big crowd – not the whites of their eyesJulianne liked the fragrance of pipe tobacco But smoke never touched her vocal cordsBudgie aspired to Sobranie Black RussianLol smoked Capstan on the school bus upstairs   Lol didn’t love his 50’s but loves his 60’s Nothing really matters is our maxim today Budgie is simplifying with no second guessing We accept each moment as our third act commences Native American drums in Yosemite’s wildernessSlowing the dynamo, we go with the flow Try not to miss those magical moments Sweet Love transcends All   Respect: Jet Black - ‘Golden Brown, Grip & Peaches’ (26 August 1938 – 6 December 2022)   CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Julianne and Budgie in Making Music Mag.No Makeup - No Instruments - No Agenda Disco 45 Mag was Lol’s fave Cure cover Song-Words Mag was Budgie’s 10p bible  Glossy Crawley Colour - Grim Black & White up North Streets of gold or fairy slides in Glass walls?  18 with Permed hair - Elvis Presley or Tony Curtis? Lol was in Thin Lizzy with his Blue Velvet Jacket and Jeans? Yeah!!Julianne adopted Bowie’s ‘Low’, hair colour Budgie, Bleach and Booze at Sorbie’s SalonAll cats now greying, with blonde highlights Running Up That Hill, (we made a deal with God to reach this age!)Faust and Amon Düül Rule!!Julianne was Shy and chose The Bass Gene Loves Jezebel loved Julianne and her bass Julianne loved The Beatles harmonies Neil Young and David Cassidy and Prog RockBut Kate Bush was her Icon  The Miller’s tale and The Saucy Wife of Bath  Steeleye Span’s Now We Are 6Ian Anderson’s Old Coat, one leg, and a FluteJethro Tull, was THE loudest band Julianne had ever heard.We, hiding the Genesis ‘Lamb’ and ‘Selling England’ when punk happened! Charlie Watts was Lol’s bestest neighbour in Devon  Julianne listened to some obscure bands like, The Cure, Siouxsie and The Banshees and Cocteau Twins And also, ‘And Also The Trees’ (now we know who they are 🙂) We all loved John McGeoch’s virtuoso brilliance – we still do.Rum Runner and Barbarella’s Clubs Birmingham, England The ‘Windrush generation and a boiling point of Thatcher’s rule. Terry Hall and growing up in Violent times. Respect: Terry Hall - ‘Our Lips Are Sealed’ (19 March 1959 – 18 December 2022)   CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Breaking Silence.This is Rachel’s first interview in three years - we are honoured.  Serendipity.Rachel saw Lol Kissing on tour - or did Rachel see Lol on the Kissing tour? Slowdive’s future drummer Simon was two rows behind RachelThough they didn’t meet for another 1000 days. Splendiferous.Kabuki intro made the crowd go mental Spinal Tap moment Pornography playing 100 years without a crash helmetRachel’s revolving Toronto stage. Every bad haircut and stupid interview on the Web forever.  Seditionaries.Rachel didn’t see a female tech until the late 90’s Christian would wear a dress if it got him in the band The Cure’s Pearl had interesting outfits More female techs in music today - yay! Subversives.Budgie honorary female with The Slits Lol didn’t leave his hotel for three days in NYC!Lol and Budgie say Exeter for the book tour. Salvationists.Still Talking after All These YearsBudgie and Viv Albertine - as if for the first time Budgie? All will be revealed in the next episode of ‘Frankie Goes to Hollywood’ Lol? Micky D and his mum say, Laurence! In Japan, it’s Mr Bud Gee San Sentinels.At 12, Rachel loved Joni Mitchell and Grace jones, at 14, Siouxsie Lol and Budgie dig the Joni Mitchell bio Lol has Sylvia Plath’s ‘Bell Jar’ in many versions.Rachel will seek out Bridget Riley.   Inspirational Siren: Nico (October 16, 1938 – July 18, 1988)   CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bits and Bobs Rachel’s in Devon where Lol once lived tooMy flower or Mayflower? It’s a right how-do-you-do!‘Where you to?’ is ‘What’s up!’ - like a cream tea servedThe Pilgrims’ Olde English in Aspic preserved Bobs and Books Log cabin moves and Festival grooves It was Great to be out of the BooksFrom Solitary to SocialisingPlaying Gigs and Fraternising After 3 years preparing the Hooks Books and BlackheadsSecret Messages from the studio - Bye-bye blackheads hello Budgie! The Banshees and The Cure got groovy with the spiral codeHorses names and Eat The Blotter – Miles Hunt wanted to be a TruckerIt’s the wrong end of the Stickshift for the Romance of The Road Barcelona and BerlinFrom Gateshead to Brazil Budgie walks in all dry places Lol rarely left his room now he loves, and he embraces Rachel’s Grateful for it all so far from sketchy pasts The 90s were a haze, now everything’s ablaze  Budgies and BanjosRachel got her first guitar at 7 years old with her head between the speakers, she would sing, ‘I’m the only Goth in Reading’ and the band names she was spreadingchanged from Slowburn into Slowdive - well it had a better ring. Bob and BeatsA video in the Warehouse of a Slowdive in The DreamhouseBudgie’s drum fill makes Bob’s Day.Siouxsie’s portrait très Risqué.  Respect: Angelo Badalamenti - ‘Floating Into The Night’ (March 22 1937 - December 11 2022)   CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Isms Cometh! Budgie and The iconic Slits - Holly Johnson as a bad-ass-bass-player! 8th notes on the floortom - how LOW can you GO?)Don’t lose it - let your individuality flow. Simone cites Motown’s James Lee Emerson, Blockheads’ Norman Watt RoyAnd our old pal Simon Gallup as bass mentors. Plays like Poetry!Lol says Budgie is drums, Budgie says Lol is Drums, Lol says Bidgie is drims, Badgie sees Lil is Drams! Poetry like Pottery!Budgie in London’s China Town for Choco glasses and salad bowls.You don’t have to be, crazy but it helps if you are.Lol had the loudest Chinese cymbal ever, from Ray Man’s of LondonBudgie had the 2nd loudest and Singing Bowls, also from Ray Man’s of London!Jimmy Page told Pearl you’re too loud (He should know!)  Potty like Putty!Lol hears Simon perfectly for the first time on Reflections!Gary Numan and subtitles on TV?Tommy Lee and Lol friends from yesteryear.Bro rate for LXB and a Shit load of drums Simone sat Monsieur le Birdie?  Tommy Lee’s Gong! What is it about Tommy’s gong? - (We still love Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bell) Budgie drums and has all the accents too - (They’re Regional accents - Voice over Vocation calling)Baby Jane’s in Acapulco - Simone’s going down to Rio! - (well Mexico… not far)Simone says, if not for music it would be art – (Loves sound as healer and sign language) Lol digs Therapy in the Integratron. Budgie digs The Neon Graveyard in Vegas!Trippy and Psychedelic Newcastle and it’s neon bridge! The Fog on the Tyne is all mine all mine – (so good we said it twice)Didn’t we have a lovely time in the white hills - white hills, what white hills? What about Daevid Allen’s Gong? With Respect: James Lee Emerson - Motown’s Bass Master. (29 January 1936 – 2 August 1983) CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Simone Butler:Facebook: @simonemariebutlerTwitter: @Simonemarie4Instagram: @simonembutler   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sand. Out there, post-lockdown Screamadelica tour Tokyo, Japan and everywhere more Traditional politeness for the visiting BritsFirst gigs post-pandemic, please play all the hits!   Lol liked the silence and the gifts from JapanBut he drank all the bath salts, which wasn’t the planSimone received sweetness to comb through her hair Budgie got Pocari Sweat at the Manga Street fair  Cherry blossom season caused a big sake thirst,Who threw the phone through the window first?Robert and Siouxsie were almost deported No return for ten years - though ‘twas never reported. The Oyster.Budgie and Simone at the breakfast bar calling Lol from Europe – to say, “Hello La!”On the bus with the crew, what’s the golden rule?Traveller’s ‘Toilette’, does not accept ‘Le Stool!’  Simone auditioned for Primal Scream She learnt all the songs and realised a dream No more living on chips and travelin’ in a van Bobby treats the band well, he’s a Gentleman Siouxsie’s manager Nils asked Budgie to auditionEx-Slits Budgie did a good Palmolive impression. Success celebrated with a ‘Roll-up’ and a beer, Lol and Simone had young Ant, Adam’s ear!  The Pearl. Simone in a film about the homeless that sears. Their lonely lives lightened by the unconditional love,of a dog they can talk to when no-one else hearsIt’s a story that moves with a powerful shove. Scary ghost stories and thunder and lightning,  A bus shows Budgie that his mother’s around.Simone’s grandpa’s goodbye is a story quite frightening,Lol says Budgie knows things about Lol that astound!  For Lol the first 4 Cure albums are significantly spiritual Though that’s not to say others misunderstood It’s the sand in the oyster that makes the pearl beautifulIt’s not Hunky Dory - but the friction is good!  ‘I don’t want a cure for this.’ ‘Love Hangover’ - Diana Ross (1976)  CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Simone Butler:Facebook: @simonemariebutlerTwitter: @Simonemarie4Instagram: @simonembutler   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices