Curtin’s Cast

Welcome to Curtin’s Cast, the John Curtin Research Centre’s podcast of politics, ideas and culture brought to you by JCRC Executive Director Nick Dyrenfurth and Redbridge’s Kos Samaras. Each fortnight we will bring you the freshest and most challenging conversations from the world of Australian and global politics, culture, and ideas every week with leading political leaders, activists, and thinkers.

Curtin’s Cast EOY Special - Nine Media’s Sean Kelly on Quarterly Essay #100: The Good Fight

As we wrap up Curtin’s Cast for 2025, a big thank you to everyone who’s tuned in this year — and a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, and season’s greetings to all our listeners. Your support has helped make Curtin’s Cast one of the most widely listened-to political podcasts in the country, and we’re deeply grateful. To close out the year, we couldn’t ask for a better conversation. Quarterly Essay has reached its 100th edition — a remarkable milestone for long-form political writing in Australia. And to mark it, Kos and Nick sit down with Sean Kelly, author of The Good Fight: What Does Labor Stand For? — an essay that asks an important, and uncomfortable, question in Australian politics. Sean argues Labor’s challenge today isn’t simply electoral, but moral: a crisis of purpose, confidence and imagination. Why has the party that once reshaped the nation struggled to articulate what it stands for heading into 2026? What replaced the old sense of mission? And can a politics built on “kindness” survive a harsher, more unequal era? 📘 Buy Sean Kelly’s Quarterly Essay #100 here: 👉 https://www.quarterlyessay.com.au/essay/2025/11/the-good-fight Thanks again for listening in 2025. We’ll see you in 2026 — with plenty more to talk about.

12-16
55:13

Curtin's Cast Episode 41 - 10 December 2025 - Kos and Nick on One Nation surge, Barnaby and much more

On this week’s Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras go one-on-one on what the latest Redbridge and Resolve polling is really telling us about Australian politics heading into a huge 2026 calendar. With two state elections looming in South Australia and Victoria, and federal pressures building, we unpack what to expect at state level, how federal factors are cutting through, and why One Nation’s surge is no longer a side story. The conversation then turns to the deeper question behind the numbers: who is actually experiencing material decline in living standards, and how that economic anxiety is reshaping voting behaviour across One Nation, Labor, Liberals and the Greens. With inflation risks still live and global instability rising, we also ask what kind of nation-building agenda Labor will need to put on the table in 2026 to hold the political centre.

12-09
42:21

Curtin's Cast Episode 40 - 3 December 2025 - Alex Vynokur (United Ukraine Appeal) and Dom Meagher (JCRC)

🎧 NEW EPISODE | CURTIN’S CAST 🇺🇦🇦🇺 Recorded live from Parliament House, Canberra Winning the Peace: Why Ukraine’s Reconstruction Is Australia’s Test Too This episode features one of the most powerful voices in Australia’s Ukraine community. Alex Vynokur didn’t become an advocate by choice — history chose him. A Ukrainian Jew whose family endured antisemitism and world war, Alex's family have built an incredibly successful life in Australia. When Russia invaded, he didn’t look away. He built the United Ukraine Appeal into a lifeline for hospitals, families and frontline communities under fire. Now he joins Curtin’s Cast — just minutes after the launch of our new report in Parliament along with report author Dr Dominic Meagher and hosts Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth  — to argue that rebuilding Ukraine is not charity, it is solidarity and strategy to serve Australia's national interest.

12-02
37:14

Curtin's Cast Episode 39 - 26 November 2025 - Paul Sakkal (Nine Media Chief Political Correspondent)

Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras sit down with Nine Media’s Chief Political Correspondent, Paul Sakkal, for one of the sharpest political conversations we’ve had all year. We cover everything reshaping Australian politics right now: • The latest polling — and what it really means • Liberal Party chaos & whether Sussan Ley can hang on? • The rise and rise of One Nation: who’s voting for them? Why? • Whether Pauline Hanson has finally hit her ceiling • Andrew Hastie — principled conservative or emerging Messiah figure? • Why the Liberals’ national future runs through fixing Victoria first • And what to expect from new Victorian Opposition Leader Jess Wilson It’s a wide-ranging, data-rich, brutally honest breakdown direct from the corridors of power.

11-25
47:49

Curtin's Cast Episode 38 - 19 November 2025 - Nick and Emma Dawson on the Revolt Against Politics As Usual

With Kung Fu Kos away, Nick Dyrenfurth teams up with guest co-host Emma Dawson (Chifley Research Centre) to tackle a huge few weeks in politics: 📊 What the latest federal polling really says 🌆 Mamdani’s NYC upset + outsider politics 🇬🇧 UK Labour turmoil, Reform & Greens surge 📱 Australia’s under-16 social media ban Is a new generation rejecting “politics-as-usual”? And what should Australian Labor, indeed political parties of all stripes, learn before it’s too late? Listen on Apple, Spotify and YouTube.

11-18
51:03

Curtin's Cast Episode 37 - 11 November 2025 - Troy Bramston on Gough Whitlam

  Fifty years to the day after the Dismissal, this week on Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and guest co-host Emma Dawson talk to acclaimed historian and political biographer Troy Bramston about his stunning new biography Gough Whitlam: The Vista of the New. 700+ pages of reform, chaos, and vision — from Gough’s youthful poem to the tumultuous events of 11 November 1975. What does Whitlam still mean to Labor today? Listen now on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Buy Troy's book: https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9781460716137/gough-whitlam-the-vista-of-the-new-the-definitive-and-most-up-to-date-biography-from-australias-leading-political-biographer/

11-11
51:39

Curtin's Cast Episode 36 - 5 November 2025 - SDA Union National Secretary Gerard Dwyer

  🎙️This week on Curtin's Cast, Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth sit down with Gerard Dwyer, National Secretary of the SDA — Australia’s largest private-sector union covering retail, fast food and warehouse workers and a proud John Curtin Research Centre Board member. From regional NSW, to the classroom and social work, and now the frontline of the labour movement, Gerard shares his journey, values, and vision — from the dignity of retail work and the scourge of workplace violence to the fight for fair pay for young workers, and why housing must be at the heart of Labor’s renewal. There’s even a yarn about his short-lived career as a jockey 🏇 This is a conversation about work, safety, and fairness but also about the enduring moral purpose of the labour movement in an era of economic insecurity and populist politics. 🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

11-03
52:46

Curtin's Cast Episode 35 - 29 October 2025 - Kos and Nick on the Netflixisation of Politics

🎙️ This week's Curtin's Cast delves into what one British political writer calls the Netflixisation of Politics. Nick Dyrenfurth & Kos Samaras dive into the end of the political pendulum: both major parties bleeding to their disruptor flanks, the rise of niche tribes, and how politics has become algorithmic entertainment — the voter as subscriber, not loyalist, from Reform UK and the Greens’ surge in Britain with Keir Starmer's Labour government assailed from right and left to similair Aussie trends. We also ask why do right-wing fear campaigns on crime and law and order still work outside the cities but flop inside them? And what does the recent and successful Albo–Trump meeting — and the Coalition’s hysteria over it — tell us about Australia’s underlying political psychology?

10-28
43:03

Curtin's Cast Episode 34 - 22 October 2025 - From Basra to 🇦🇺 Aussie Boardrooms: JCRC Chair Sam Almaliki

🎙️ Our guest today has lived the Australian story from the inside out. Born in Basra, Iraq, arriving to Australia as an asylum seeker aged nine including spending time in Villawood Detention Centre, and now a lawyer, chairperson and entrepreneur — Sam Almaliki’s journey is one of hope, hardship and renewal. From learning English behind fences to leading in business and community, Sam’s story captures the resilience and reinvention that define the Australian project. In this episode Nick and Kos yarn with Sam about: 🏠 Growing up in public housing & the power of aspiration 🏏 From Cricket Australia to navigating boardrooms 🤝 Migration, belonging & social cohesion   🎧 Listen to Curtin’s Cast with Sam Almaliki wherever you get your podcast goodies!

10-20
56:42

Curtin's Cast Episode 33 - 15 October 2025 - Historic major party vote lows, One Nation support rising and Greens' Gaza gaffes

🎙️ New Curtin’s Cast episode! Kos and Nick dive into explosive new polling showing the combined major party primary vote at historic lows. The Liberals are haemorrhaging votes on their right flank while collapsing among Gen Z, millennials, women and CALD voters. They unpack the immigration debate, the rise of Advance Australia and right-wing online grifters, and ask: who exactly is voting for One Nation in 2025? (Spoiler: not the people who matter in marginal swing seats). Plus: how the Greens’ extremist rhetoric around the Middle East is backfiring with mainstream progressives. 🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.

10-14
46:11

Curtin's Cast Episode 32 - 1 October 2025 - Kos and Nick on MAGA politics, Andrew Hastie and much more

🎧 New #CurtinsCast episode - Kos Samaras is back with Brisbane Lions tragic & premiership celebrator Nick Dyrenfurth to dissect the week in politics: 🇬🇧 The rise of alt-right & MAGA politics in the UK and Australia 🛠️ Andrew Hastie on migration, housing & slaying the neo-liberal dragon ⚠️ Wayne Swan’s warning to Labor on its shallow base in a time of electoral volatility…  and much more besides.

09-30
39:42

Curtin's Cast Episode 31 - 24 September 2025 - Dr Shireen Morris (JCRC Board Member, Constitutional Lawyer and Author)

🎧 New Curtin’s Cast Episode With Nick Dyrenfurth still away, JCRC board member & leading constitutional lawyer Dr Shireen Morris joins Kos Samaras for a rich, personal and political conversation. 🌏⚖️ 💡 From her Indian-Fijian family roots and early acting dreams to the frontlines of law and advocacy, Shireen shares the journey that shaped her fight for justice and belonging. 🗳️ They dive deep into the Uluru Statement and the Voice referendum: • Lessons from working with First Nations leaders • Why constitutional design matters more than slogans • A frank autopsy of the 2023 Yes campaign—what worked, what didn’t • Where recognition, treaty & reform go next A candid, insightful episode on law, culture and the future of Australia’s democracy.

09-23
49:38

Curtin's Cast Episode 30 - 17 September 2025 - Dr Stephen Parnis

#CurtinsCast host Nick Dyrenfurth takes a well-earned spell from the microphone as John Curtin Research Centre board member and constitutional lawyer Dr Shireen Morris joins Kos Samaras to lead a searching conversation with "proud Westie" and emergency physician Dr Stephen Parnis. From the frontlines of emergency medicine to the fraught politics of end-of-life care, Dr Parnis reflects on the class politics of medical care, dealing with dying patents and what makes for a “good death,” the limits of autonomy, and why Victoria’s voluntary assisted-dying safeguards still trouble him. The discussion widens to COVID’s class divides and the paradox of highly-educated, generally affluent anti-vax movement. It’s a candid, compassionate exploration of clinical ethics, public policy, and how we might rewrite the script on death and care in Australia.

09-16
55:28

Curtin's Cast Episode 29 - 10 September 2025 - ACTU Secretary Sally McManus

This week’s Curtin's Cast features the excellent ACTU Secretary, Sally McManus. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth explore her working-class upbringing in north-west Sydney, the parallels between the rise of One Nation in the 1990s and today’s hard-right, neo-Nazi currents, and whether her attraction to the labour movement was a matter of nature or nurture. We cover the cultural left milieu she emerged from, the eye-opening experience of being the first in her family to attend university, the ACTU’s pioneering Organising Works program, the influence of mentors like Tom Macdonald and Tas Bull, and her path to the top job leading a resurgent union movement through seismic challenges from Covid to AI and intergenerational inequality. And yes — we also dive into Sally’s lifelong obsession with martial arts and how it’s shaped her leadership. A rich and revealing conversation you won’t want to miss.

09-09
48:35

Curtin's Cast Episode 28 - 3 September 2025 - Prof Sean Scalmer (Author of A Fair Day’s Work: The Quest to Win Back Time)

This week we’re joined by Professor Sean Scalmer — one of Australia's leading historians based at the University of Melbourne, Fellow of the Academy of Social Science, and author of A Fair Day’s Work: The Quest to Win Back Time. We dive into: ⏳ The fight for the eight-hour day and Australia’s pioneering role 📉 How progress stalled from the 1980s onwards 👩‍👩‍👧‍👦 The hidden burden of unpaid work, especially for women 💻 Technology, productivity and the “always on” culture 🗳️ Why politics has failed to act on overwork ✨ What a fairer future — maybe even a four-day week — could look like A revealing look at the crisis of work-life balance — and how we might win back our time. Grab a copy of Sean's book here: https://www.mup.com.au/books/a-fair-day-s-work/9780522880816

09-02
53:28

Curtin's Cast Episode 27 - 27 August 2025 - Former Liberal MP Keith Wolahan

This week’s Curtin’s Cast features the thoughtful and formidable former Liberal MP Keith Wolahan. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth discussed Keith’s Irish Catholic working-class roots in Dublin, his childhood in suburban Melbourne and education at Ringwood Secondary College, through to his academic achievements at Melbourne, Monash and Cambridge and career as a barrister. Our conversation delved into his two decades of military service including the elite 1st Commando Regiment, deployments to East Timor and Afghanistan, and the loss of close friends in combat that shaped his reflections on leadership, sacrifice and ethics. We unpacked his pivotal preselection contest against Kevin Andrews in the seat of Menzies and his brief time in federal parliament, with Keith providing some raw and super interesting insights into modern political life. We also explored the lessons of defeat after Menzies turned red in 2025, his honesty in taking responsibility, and his vision for a Liberal Party that must reconnect with urban voters – especially professionals, women, younger Australians and migrant communities. Keith spoke candidly about his family life, his values, and whether a political comeback might lie ahead alongside his work at the Bar. This is a conversation not to be missed. Check out a preview which is running in Nine Media's The Age and SMH: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/canavan-leads-group-of-five-demanding-coalition-debate-now-on-scrapping-net-zero-20250826-p5mpvo.html

08-26
47:12

Curtin's Cast Episode 26 - 20 August 2025 - South Australian Labor Premier Peter Malinauskas

In a competitive field we think this week's Curtin's Cast might be the best yet featuring the super impressive South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth discussed Peter's upbringing in Adelaide, his career as a unionist rising from the Woolies shopfloor to become state secretary of the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association representing retail, fast-food and warehousing workers, and journey from becoming SA Labor Opposition leader to Premier during the Covid years. Our conversation spanned artificial intelligence and productivity, housing, social media policy, the end of woke and anti-woke politics, Labor connecting better with disillusioned young men and Australians of faith, and the deteriorating geopolitical environment.

08-19
47:03

Curtin's Cast Episode 25 - 13 August 2025 - Dom Meagher (JCRC Deputy Director & Chief Economist)

We are very fortunate to have the one of the brightest and most innovative economists in Australia as part of our team - Dr Dominic Meagher. He's our latest guest on Curtin's Cast with Kos Samaras discussing the finer details of our recently released paper co-authored with Nick Dyrenfurth - 'Innovation Nation: Powering Australian Productivity in the 2020s and Beyond'. On this episode we get to the core of what productivity actually is and why Australian growth is now at its lowest in 60 years, mostly as the result of the old playbook of cutting costs, deregulation, and squeezing workers being no longer fit for purpose, and deep dive into the JCRC's bold, practical and distinctively social democratic blueprint for a more dynamic, resilient, and fair economy with productivity the means by which we can realise rising real wages and better living standards.  Read the entire report here: https://lnkd.in/ga2xad8J

08-12
54:10

Curtin's Cast Episode 24 - 6 August 2025 - Liberals' Existential Crisis (Kung Fu Kos Is Back!)

The great 'Kung Fu' Kos Samaras is back with Curtin's Cast co-host Nick Dyrenfurth discussing the post-election environment and the crisis of the Liberal-National Party.

08-05
41:12

Curtin's Cast Episode 23 - 30 July 2025 - Gautam Raju (Movember)

This week's Curtin's Cast is a ripper featuring Gautam Raju, Global Director, Policy & Advocacy – Programs with Movember. Gautam, as listeners will discover is a ripper bloke talking about an issue Australian society is slowly but surely confronting - bloke's health, whether mental or physical well-being. Nick Dyrenfurth and Redbridge's Simon Welsh covered a smorgasbord of topics from Gautam's work co-leading the United Nations Secretary General campaign response to combat misinformation on COVID-19 which has reached over 1 billion people to big topics from the state of play in 2025, the usefulness of terms such as toxic masculinity, sport and male role models, the online world and social media influencers including right-wing populist types, and what political progressives and those on the left of politics need to do better in these spaces. A big thanks to Simon for filling in for Kos Samaras these past few weeks. Enjoy episode 23!

07-29
40:53

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