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Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, Borderlands Trail Running


Welcome to Season 3 of DFL Before DNF. This season is a celebration of the great ultrarunning courses. In each episode, the course is the hero through the eyes of someone who is training for it or who has run it.


Season 1 of this podcast propelled me to finish the Zion 100. This is evergreen content for anyone going after something big.


Season 2 featured some great brands in trail running.


Check out our new mobile app, Wylder. We want it to be the center of your run club.

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Tim is legend in ultratrail running. He's putting his own stamp on the race industry with Mammoth Trail Fest in Mammoth, California. In this episode we explore Mammoth, race directing, and hospitality in the ultrarunning and racing community.VKTRY Insoles----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
Devil's Gulch has 3 distances - 1/2 Marathon, 50 Miles, + 100 Miles. In a hot year (2023) DG had only three finishers out of 21 starters. The course lives up to its name and belongs in the discussion with some of the other big mountain ultras like Wasatch or High Lonesome. 24,000' feet of gain. It's a beast. It's a devil.Devil's Gulch06:45 Exploring the Course of Devil's Gulch24:26 Hopes for Future Races and Changes26:21 The Impact of the Race on Runners28:30 The Challenge and Beauty of Devil's Gulch31:56 The Support and Community at Devil's Gulch37:30 Selling Devil's Gulch to Different Runners----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android. DFL Before DNF podcast, Devil's Gulch, Evergreen Trail Runs, race production company, trail running, environmental sustainability, avalanche forecasting, mental health, cutoff times, diversity and inclusion, Devil's Gulch, race, challenging, beautiful, support, inclusive, experienced runners, tough terrain, stunning views, multiple distances, belt buckle
In this conversation, Josh and Ben (of Honey Videography) discuss their experience shooting 'the Zion 100 Miler Broke Me' video for YouTube. They talk about the challenges of capturing the stories and essence of ultra trail running, the gear and equipment required, and the importance of creating compelling content. Ben shares his impressions of other trail running documentaries and the growing popularity of the genre. The conversation explores the challenges and rewards of creating trail running documentaries.05:26 The Essence of Ultra Trail Running10:39 The Growing Popularity of Trail Running Documentaries20:10 The Evolution of Trail Running Films22:19 The Importance of Storytelling in Filmmaking24:09 The Challenges of Filming in the Moment26:07 The Value of Embracing Failure and Embarrassment----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
In this episode, Josh interviews Bri Sullivan about her experience running the High Lonesome 100 race in Colorado. They discuss the beautiful location of the race, the challenging course with high elevation, and the supportive race directors. Bri shares her personal journey and highlights the sense of community and camaraderie among the runners. They also touch on the the impact of race directors in creating a positive race experience. ----04:13 The Beauty and Challenge of High Lonesome10:36 The Impact of Race Directors on the High Lonesome Experience24:57 Preparing for the High Lonesome 10027:28 The Impact of Altitude and Breathing Issues30:19 The Challenging Night Section35:38 Reaching Purgatory Aid Station and Overcoming Doubts49:37 Challenges and Highlights of the High Lonesome 100-Mile Race54:20 The Brutal Finish of the High Lonesome Race57:31 The Healing and Positive Addiction of Ultra Running01:05:14 The High Lonesome Race: A Top-Notch Experience----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android. ----High Lonesome 100, race, Colorado, trail running, community, race directors, elevation, camaraderie, ultra running, High Lonesome 100, challenges, mental strength, pacers, crew, support, encouragement, motivation, High Lonesome, 100-mile race, challenges, highlights, difficult terrain, pacers, crew support, mental struggles, physical struggles, bonding, healing, personal growth, resilience
Kaden just finished the 100 miler at Scout Mountain. And he clearly loved it. I believe Kaden sums up the ultrarunning comunnity beautifully toward the end of this episode. Learn all about Scout Mountain Ultras and the 2024 event.----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
I wasn't an ultra runner until I left West Texas at the age of 19. I am really excited about this episode because I get to think about West Texas through the eyes of one of the older ultras in the country - Palo Duro Trail Run.In this episode we talk about the history of Palo Duro Trail Run, the region in general, and what makes it beautiful. This is one of the few ultras from the season I knew I wanted to run before recording a conversation about it. I look forward to toeing the line in Palo Duro Canyon someday to run this race.Palo Dura Trail RunTrail Grit, episode 4----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
The Mozart 100 in Salzburg, Austria was a hurricane this year and Tommy Lewis was there for every bit of it. You'll love this episode becuase Tommy is a great story teller and the 2024 Mozart 100 was a crazy story.The ultrarunning human spirit is on full display when the rain is making rivers on the trail and hands are frozen. Enjoy.----Tommy LewisBorderlands | InstagramWe've got an app in Beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
The Marathon des Sables is a celebration of the ultrarunning + endurance spirit in the Saharan Desert. Join me and Meghan Hicks of iRunFar as we talk all about the MdS.photo credit: Kirsten Kortebein ----BorderlandsInstagram.com/runborderlandsWe've got an app in Beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
Wow, Emma is the embodyment of everything I love about ultratrail running and this story is the epitome of it. Essentially revived from what looked like death or close to it, to a killer second-to-DFL at Wasatch 100 2022. I was at Ant Knolls and took the photo of her laying on the ground. Fortunatley, you can't DNF at Ant Knoll. She got up, kept going, pushed harder to be the cutoff and got the buckle. Wasatch100BorderlandsInstagram.com/runborderlandsWe've got an app in Beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.
Billy White is a former Michelin-caliber chef who gives his available time to building the ultratrail community just south of Stockholm. He is building the Sormlands 100 and we talked with him all about it.Billy White + Sormlands 100--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. Help us connect the running world.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
The No Business 100 is a beast. As I explore races outside of the Western United States I love finding these large communities of ultra runners who love their races. No Business 100 is 14,500' of gain across 102 miles in a section of forest about 60 miles from the Barkley Marathons. Whew.Heid Baker - Strong Mama Miles--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. Help us connect the running world.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Zion has been around since 2012 and its western US ultra staple. Salem Stanley carries the torch but it all started with an important figure in Ultra Running history named Matt Gunn. Join me as I talk about the history and course of Zion Ultras.Please take this survey.--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. Help us connect the running world.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
The Yeti 100 has a cult east coast following and Jason Atnip is a member. He's also co-host of Trail Trash Podcast. In this episode the Yeti is the hero. Hear about the course and the history and all the things that make it loved.Please take this survey.Jason Atnip co-host of the Trail Trash Podcast--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. The epicenter of your run club.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
UTMB is beautiful and painful all at the same time. It's got the vert of Hardrock in the setting of the Alps. Everything is different than our American ultras except for the human spirit that propels runners forward. Join Amanda and me as we talk about the full scope of UTMB.Please take this survey.--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. The epicenter of your run club.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
In this episode, we go talk about the history and the course of Cocodona. I love the Cocodona 250. I met Joe Corcione for the first time during this interview. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed talking to him about his upcoming Cocodona 250 effort. In Season 3 of DFL Before DNF, the Great Courses are the hero. We feature notable and non-notable ultra courses through the eyes off notable and non-notable runners.Follow ⁠Joe⁠ + his podcast ⁠The Everyday Ultra⁠.--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. The epicenter of your run club.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Death March is fun, light-hearted, self-deprecating and at the same time they totally get why ultrarunning is so important. I enjoyed this interview so much and think you will too.----Death March Running Co ⁠website⁠ | ⁠IG⁠----Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. The epicenter of your run club.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠
Jeff + Jenny Vierling founded Tailwind in their house and from there it grew like other great products. Their story is one of entrepreneurial grit and genuine love for an industry. How did they go from some white powder in Ziplock bags to distribution across 45 countries? Join us.--Tailwind Nutrition--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. The epicenter of your run club.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠.
You might think that you understand Satisfy Running, but would you be open to the possibility that you don't? Listen as Brice Partouche unpacks what he's doing with Satisfy. Satisfy is among the most talked about brand in trail running right now because it warrants an opinion. You can't dig into it and not emerge with a take on the price or the aesthetic or the marketing or the athletes he sponsors.If you don't understand French Culture there are some things getting lost in translation. --⁠Satisfy⁠--Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. The epicenter of your run club.Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠Industry Trail Teams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k or Half Marathon⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Speedland is making high-performance shoes that are super easy on the eyes. Dave Dombrow has a resume well-suited to bring this value proposition to Trail Running. High performance x beauty. In this episode we discuss all things Speedland - where it started, where it is, and where its going.——⁠Speedland⁠ | ⁠@runspeedland⁠⁠⁠⁠Borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy some merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Run our 50k⁠⁠⁠ on May 11 in Salt Lake City
Mike McMonagle is the photographer behind @shitinthewoods. You probably already know that. In this episode we learn how he built Shit in the Woods, how its growing, and where its going.——Shit in the Woods⁠Borderlands.cc⁠Buy some merch⁠⁠Run our 50k⁠ on May 11 in Salt Lake City
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