DOC Sounds of Science Podcast

The DOC Sounds of Science podcast is a behind-scenes-look at conservation in Aotearoa New Zealand. Every episode we chat with one of our experts about their most interesting days on the job.

#20 Conservation and culture

In this episode we’re talking about how our conservation past intersects with both our present and our future, and how our treaty commitments need to be at the heart of this.Aroha Gilling is an academic specialising in Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and an experienced Treaty Ranger. She’s passionate about education, and this episode contains a wealth of expertise about nature and being a good Treaty Partner. Aroha is also a superfan of all creatures great and small in the Rangitahi Molesworth Recreation Reserve. It’s her happy place.The birdsong in this episode is a dawn chorus.The music used is 'Let’s Get Down to Business' by Cast of Characters.For further reading, learn about our responsibility to give effect to the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi under section 4 of the Conservation Act.

08-29
34:32

#19: Wildlife warrior

CITES is an international agreement regulating the import and export of endangered animals and plants. What’s this? And why is it important? CITES officer Avi Narula is going to tell you.Avi has worked with big cats, endangered turtles, and renegade scamps like skunks and racoons. Now he’s here in Aotearoa New Zealand making sure wildlife goods don’t illegally cross the borders.The most important thing he wants you to know is that before you shop or travel, please check if your item needs a wildlife permit. More info on our CITES page.The birdsong in this episode is a dawn chorus.The music used is 'Let’s Get Down to Business' by Cast of Characters.Te reo Māori translation: Kia ora! Ko Erica Wilkinson tēnei. He kōnae ipurangi tēnei, e pā ana ki ngā Sounds of Science. (Hi! My name is Erica Wilkinson and this is a podcast about Sounds of Science).We had some sound difficulties with this recording. We’re sorry and have resolved this for future episodes. Avi’s stories are still top notch, and we hope you enjoy the episode.

08-01
43:55

#18 Cryptic critters

Stories about velvet worms, tiny frogs, crooning bats and more from ecologist Jess Scrimgeour. Jess knows that the Fab Five—in this case we mean kākāpō, kiwi, whio, takahē, and kererū—are easy to love, but she wants to light your spark for the hard to see, hard to hear, or hard to find critters too: like pekapeka/bats, wētā, pepeketua/frogs, and even the peripatus/velvet worm which fires a sticky substance when it feels threatened. How iconic. The birdsong in this episode is a dawn chorus.The music used is 'Let’s Get Down to Business' by Cast of Characters.Te reo Māori translation:Kia ora! Ko Erica Wilkinson tēnei. He kōnae ipurangi tēnei, e pā ana ki ngā Sounds of Science. (Hi! My name is Erica Wilkinson and this is a podcast about Sounds of Science).

06-27
38:57

Episode 12: Marine Magic

Anton van Helden is a marine scientist by day moonlighting as a magician by night, although one could make the point that magic never sleeps. Anton has over 30 years of experience working with and studying marine mammals – before he worked for us, he was at Te Papa. Now, Anton works as a science advisor in our Marine Species Team, assigned to looking after Māui and Hector's dolphins. In this episode, you’ll hear talk of strandings, the subants, toxoplasmosis, pub statistics, and climate, as well as working with iwi on recovery of bones.Abracadabra, are you listening closely? CONTENT WARNING: Please be advised that the following episode contains specific discussion of dissection (we kept it reasonably high level) which some listeners may find graphic. This is 8.03 – 11.22. And at 23.25 we talk about taonga and why dissections are important for Iwi.

03-11
32:38

Episode 11: Best bits so far

In honour of Conservation Week, we’ve put together a supercut of all our favourite moments from the past ten episodes. Lichens, bats, kākāpō sperm helmets (we couldn’t make this up), GPS, poo patches and more – this episode is packed to the brim with stories from all of our previous guests.The birdsong used in this episode is the pīwakawaka/fantail.

08-20
29:42

Episode 10: Time to talk climate

Jenny Christie is used to seeing eyebrows go up when she tells people what her job is. Perhaps a few years ago, this could be chalked up to scepticism, but nowadays it’s more likely to mean, ‘wow, big job’.Jenny’s job is climate change. She approaches this from an adaptation point of view, which means working on what we can do to manage and reduce the impacts of climate change on our native species and ecosystems. In this episode, Jenny talks about adaptation work underway, what she says to naysayers, and some of the impacts on native species we’re seeing right now.The birdsong used this episode is the North Island Robin. The music used is Get Down to Business by Cast of Characters.

07-23
29:50

Episode 9: Non-vascular plants

Kelly Frogley knows her stuff when it comes to non-vascular plants – and then some. In this episode, Kelly explains what a non-vascular plant is, and shares some stories about unexpected discoveries and making the most of non-optimum spaces for optimum plant identification.We also talk about green-blindness and the importance of looking down. And up. And around – well, you get it. Non-vascular plants are all around!The birdsong used this episode is the tui.Music is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of Characters.

05-21
30:51

Episode 8: The Batman

Colin O’Donnell knows everything there is to know about pekapeka/bats. He’s accumulated some wild stories along the way. In the name of science, Colin has encountered popping bats, game-changing technology, tiger prints and gelatinous excretions – which is exactly as gross as it sounds.Most importantly, we talk about the impact of predators on Aotearoa’s only endemic land mammal. This highlights the reason for us to work towards a Predator Free New Zealand.The birdsong used this episode is the North Island robin.Music is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of Characters.

03-11
37:36

Episode 7: History with Herb

Conservation enthusiast and DOC legend Herb talks to Nic about his experience as a science communicator, navigating the bush before sat nav, being trolled by kea, and species protection on offshore islands. Plus, he treats us to some of his famous bird calls.If there were such thing as conservation bingo, (sidebar: should we make that?), Herb would be a square all of his own, given how many times his name is mentioned in conservation conversation. “Ask Herb”, “See what Herb thinks” or “Herb might know” are popular refrains around here. Cheers to this stalwart of species survival.The birdsong (well, bird scream) used this episode is the kea.Music is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of Characters.

01-30
29:32

Episode #4: Conservation tech

Technical advisor Stuart Cockburn talks to us about his scientific innovations, which are world-firsts and have been critical in protecting native species.Stu’s responsible for kākāpō snarks, track counters, seabird soundscapes, grasshopper detectors and much, much more. He also once got into a one-way fight with a great spotted kiwi (the bird started it,) and is directly responsible for Nic getting questioned by airport security. All in a day’s work for Stu.A snark is a device that records transmitters on kākāpō.The birdsong used this episode is the Australasian gannet.Music is Let’s get down to business by Cast of Characters.

09-26
28:19

Episode #3: Our lizards

Lizard expert Lynn Adams shares tales from the world of reptile conservation – including two near misses for the “curly wurly” tailed Chesterfield skink.Lynn and Nic also discuss the main threats to lizards - mice, hedgehogs, habitat loss and climate change. They finish up on a positive note, with what we can do to help protect our native reptiles.Find out more:Learn about New Zealand’s lizard speciesHow to identify lizardsReport your alpine lizard sightings

05-07
25:52

Episode #2: The DOC Vet

From kākāpō to kiwi, Kate McInnes is vet to all of New Zealand’s native species. It’s a one-of-a-kind job! Listen to Kate talk about avian lesions, kākāpō sperm and birds with salmonella.Kate and Nic also reveal the humble origins of the now infamous ‘sperm helmet’, on display at Te Papa National Museum. The birdsong used in this episode is a dawn chorus with tui in the foreground.Learn more about what to plant to support birds and wildlife.Music is Let’s get down to business by Cast of Characters.

04-03
32:42

Episode #1: Marine species

Marine species expert Hannah Hendriks talks whale strandings, post-mortems and crucial data. The birdsong at the start of this episode is the North Island robin.Find out more:Māui dolphin abundance estimatesMāui dolphin toxicology and disease research

01-23
22:48

35: A Flipping Good Time with Dr. Jody Weir

Marine biologist and primatologist Dr Jody Weir has extensive expertise on marine animals, specifically: fur seals, dolphins and turtles – all things finned and beautiful.Jody has also researched lemurs in Madagascar, bears and wolves in Canada, and turtles in Barbados. Learn about her exciting and varied career in our latest episode.The audio at the beginning of the episode is a kekeno New Zealand fur seal. The music used is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of Characters.

05-06
35:12

34: Better unguLATE than never with George Ledgard

George knows everything there is to know about hooved creatures that walk on their toes—ungulates, for those in the know—and he’s a keen hunter as well as a technical advisor on the topic of wild animals.Hear about where we’re at with hunting and wild animal control, from one of our foremost experts who is also a hunter. George wears all the hats.The audio at the beginning of the episode is a Western weka.The music used is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of CharactersContent warning for (respectful and scientific) discussion of hunting and dead animalsFull shownotes and transcript at www.doc.govt.nz/podcast 

12-04
43:01

33: Pen(guin) pals with Cassie Mealey

Cassie has the most interesting answer possible to the question ‘what do you do for fun?’ She rehabilitates penguins.As one of our technical advisors specialising in fauna, in addition to running swim practice for penguins in her backyard, Cassie has a lot of wildlife rehabilitation stories and tips.Listen to this unmissable episode now.The audio used at the beginning is a tawaki/Fiordland crested penguin splashing in pool and making honking soundThe music used is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of CharactersShownotes and transcript at www.doc.govt.nz/podcast

07-29
45:04

32: Parrot patter

Terry is an expert in all kinds of parrots, specifically kākā, kākāriki karaka/NZ parakeet and kākāpō.He’s spent a lot of time catching and monitoring birds, studying them, and advising on the impacts of predator control on non-target species. Plus, he has some field stories that are so incredible, you’ll think he’s lying. At first, we thought he was lying.The audio at the beginning of the episode is the call of the North Island kākāThe music used is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of CharactersTranscript and shownotes available at www.doc.govt.nz/podcast 

05-28
33:37

31: All things kākāpō part 2

Part 2 of our special with kākāpō scientist, Dr. Andrew Digby. We ask listeners’ questions about kākāpō, talk about some of the biggest wins and disappointments in kākāpō management, and learn new facts about this rare, unusual species.Transcript and shownotes at www.doc.govt.nz/podcast

04-03
21:15

30: All things kākāpō part 1

Dr. Andrew Digby does a deep dive on the science of kākāpō management, recalls weird behaviour he’s observed from them in the field, and explains some of the big challenges the population are facing, including disease outbreak and low fertility. Transcript and full shownotes at www.doc.govt.nz/pocast

03-06
28:09

29: Summer supercut

To celebrate summer in Aotearoa, we’ve put together a supercut, packed to the brim with all the best bits from previous episodes. From cryptic species to sharks to seal production—this supercut has something for everyone. Full shownotes and transcript at www.doc.govt.nz/podcast

12-20
44:46

Lolly

Love this episode! Really cool to learn about the lizards and will make sure I'm looking out for them!

08-20 Reply

Emma Morris

Wonderful! Can't wait to hear more.

02-11 Reply

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