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Dancing with Systems (co-hosted by Dr Sally Uren and Prof. Dr Wayne Visser) aims to help change agents from across the spectrum - in business, government, academia, and civil society - better understand the complex set of dynamics at play in the extraordinary systems transitions currently underway.
This debut season will explore how six key systems - energy, food, finance, technology, nature and health - are evolving, examine where the key sticking points to transformation lie, and ask what actions will help unlock meaningful systems change.
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The food system is full of big numbers — and even bigger tensions. In this episode, Wayne and Sally dive deep into one of our most culturally embedded and vital global systems. From soil health and water usage to biodiversity and the power of food to bring people together, the food system connects deeply to human health, culture, and planetary boundaries. But with food accounting for a third of global greenhouse gas emissions and millions facing acute hunger or unaffordable healthy diets, the...
AI and clean tech are converging to influence the pace and nature of key systems transition. AI is the great accelerator — but accelerating in the wrong direction is still the wrong direction. In this episode, Wayne and Sally explore the double-edged nature of technology: a powerful enabler of every other systems transition, and a sector with its own rapidly growing footprint. The question isn't whether AI is good or bad — it's what we point it at. Guests Joel Makower — Chair & Co-founder...
Why the energy transition might already be unstoppable. The energy transition isn't coming — it's already here. In our first episode, Wayne and Sally unpack why the shift to renewables has passed the point of no return, who's leading the charge globally, and what a truly fair transition looks like in practice. Guests Kingsmill Bond — Senior Principal, Ember Rhian Kelly — Chief Sustainability Officer, SSE What We Cover How systems change — and why the energy transition has hit its tippi...
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