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Welcome to Deconstructing Conventional, a show fascinated by one simple question: How did we get here? How did what we call “conventional” come to earn that title? Is there a better way, and if so, what would it look like? This show is about deconstructing two things: Our individual biases, and the systems that run (or attempt to run) our everyday lives.
We do this deconstruction with an eye for where we can reconstruct something better that leads to flourishing societies, and robust physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health. In short, this show is about questioning our assumptions and practicing systems-level thinking.
I’m your host, Christian Elliot, I’ll do my best to stay curious and humble. You do the same and we’re both bound to learn something. Welcome to the show. Prepare to have your thinking stretched.
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Send a text What if the story we inherited about contagion was a hoax, and the tests we trust most don’t actually measure what we think they do? We open that door with a clear, evidence-focused tour through virology’s origins, the rise of molecular diagnostics, and the incentives that keep the “germ” frame dominant—even when the evidence falters. With Dr. Mark Bailey’s deep dive into historical experiments, cell culture practices, and PCR-era case creation, we break down how association turne...
Send a text A hospital can be a lifeline—or a labyrinth. When Lori Simpson’s husband entered with aspiration pneumonia, she expected a sputum culture, targeted antibiotics, and home care within days. Instead, she faced locked doors, ICU isolation, heavy sedation, DNR orders added at 3 a.m., and records that didn’t match reality. With decades across nursing, hospice, and administration, Lori knew the playbook—and still had to fight three months to bring him home. Her story is painful, but what...
Send a text What if the most human moment of your life has been outsourced to a system that profits when you’re afraid? I sat down with obstetrician Dr. Stuart Fischbein and midwife Blyss Young to pull back the curtain on how birth moved from a normal, physiological process to a hospital-centered, intervention-first business—and what families can do to take their power back. Dr. Stu traces the shift from independent practice to employed medicine and managed care, showing how coding, liabilit...
Send a text A wave of new listeners arrived, so we pulled back the curtain to reintroduce what we do, why we do it, and where we’re steering the show next year. After two decades in holistic health, we’ve learned that most people don’t need more tests or bigger supplement stacks—they need a cleaner map of reality. We talk through the “healthcare matrix,” why disease labels often distract from root causes, and how to think clearly when institutions and incentives push complexity. We also shar...
Send a text What if a jar of clay could keep you out of the doctor's office by changing how you handle burns, bites, gut upsets, or stubborn wounds? I brought in Neal Bosshardt, who has spent 50 years teaching and using natural bentonite clay, to share a straight‑shooting playbook: when clay shines, when to be cautious, and the exact methods that make the difference. We start with the fundamentals—why negatively charged, mineral‑rich clays can adsorb toxins, help control microbes, ease pain,...
Send a text Have you ever had your symptoms blamed on “unbalanced hormones” and you were then offered a cream, a pill, patch, or implanted pellet? In this episode, I pull back the curtain on one of healthcare’s favorite narrative constructs and make a different case: Your hormones are not "unbalanced." They are responding to your situation, not rebelling against you. Intervening with hormones doesn't correct a problem, it masks one and CREATES an imbalance. I detail how “test don’t gu...
Send a text The label says “natural,” but who’s actually making your vitamins—and what’s riding along inside each capsule? I sat down with Robyn Openshaw to follow the supply chains few consumers ever see, from GMO-corn byproducts turned into “vitamin C,” to deodorized fish oils engineered to hide rancidity, to wool-grease–derived cholecalciferol sold as “vitamin D.” The picture that emerges isn’t a quaint herb shed; it’s industrial chemistry optimized for shelf life, margins, and market grow...
Send a text What if that unexplained fatigue, brain fog, and joint pain isn't "just stress" or aging, but caused by something physically inside your body? Dr. Shaher Khan, a plastic surgeon who exclusively performs breast implant removal, pulls back the curtain on what may be one of modern medicine's most overlooked health crises. Reading directly from FDA black box warnings and manufacturer documentation, Dr. Khan reveals disturbing facts about breast implants that most women are never told...
Send a text What if nature already contains the solutions to many of our health challenges? In this eye-opening conversation with Dr. Scott Johnson—naturopath, author of 28 books, and one of the world's foremost authorities on essential oils—we uncover how plant medicines can work with remarkable potency while avoiding the toxic side effects of pharmaceuticals. Dr. Johnson's passionate journey began with his own diagnosis of ankylosing spondylitis, a rare auto-inflammatory condition doctors ...
Send a text Have you ever had your entire life upended in an instant? At 41, with a wife and four children depending on me, I found myself filing for bankruptcy after our fitness studio of 12 years collapsed. Standing amid the ruins of what we'd built, I had to make an impossible choice: accept the only job offer I had or bet on myself with no safety net. That moment of crisis became the crucible for everything I now understand about creating breakthroughs in life. Through tears and raw vuln...
Send a text In this profound and eye-opening conversation, psychiatrist Dr. Peter Breggin shares the extraordinary journey that has earned him the title "conscience of psychiatry." With seven decades of experience fighting against medical corruption, Dr. Breggin offers rare insights into the true nature of psychiatric medications and their impact on the human brain and spirit. The interview begins with Dr. Breggin's moving personal story—how his childhood experiences, including early exposur...
Send a text What if everything we've been told about autism is wrong? What if this condition that affects 1 in 32 children isn't genetic, permanent, or untreatable, but instead represents a massive poisoning crisis that can be reversed? Kerri Rivera joins us to share her extraordinary journey from desperate mother to pioneering healer who's helped over 5,000 children recover from autism. After watching her own son slip away between 12-24 months old, becoming nonverbal after vaccinations, Ker...
Send a text What if the strangest parts of the Bible aren't myth but documented reality? Mark Grenon's journey from skeptical to global missionary reveals archaeological evidence and supernatural encounters that make Scripture's most controversial passages suddenly plausible. Mark's story begins with a life-altering encounter with believers who could answer his deepest questions from Scripture. Within months, he abandoned his construction career to attend Bible college, eventually pastoring a...
Send a text Mark Grenon's life story reads like a thriller but carries the weight of hard truth about health freedom in America. A missionary pilot who spent 47 years serving communities across Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Colombia, Mark's path took an unexpected turn when he and his family contracted antibiotic-resistant MRSA in 2006. Facing a potentially fatal diagnosis with no effective medical treatment, Mark discovered chlorine dioxide—a simple compound that completely healed his ...
Send a text Ever feel like your devices are listening to you? In this eye-opening conversation with digital privacy expert Hakeem Anwar, we pull back the curtain on the massive surveillance infrastructure built into our everyday technology. From phones that listen when they're "off" to health wearables that track your biometric data and share it with government agencies, the digital landscape has become a minefield for personal privacy. Hakeem, founder of Take Back Our Tech and privacy-focus...
Send a text What if the surveillance capabilities monitoring you today had existed during the American Revolution? According to privacy expert Glenn Meter, "The founding fathers would have been rounded up and executed—just a footnote in history." This chilling perspective frames our conversation about the digital control grid being constructed around us all. Glenn pulls back the curtain on how seemingly beneficial initiatives like child safety bills and digital IDs serve as Trojan horses for...
Send a text What if the root cause of your chronic health issues has been hiding in plain sight—right inside your mouth? Dr. Michelle Jorgensen, a functional integrative dentist and board-certified naturopath, makes the stunning claim that 60-80% of chronic illness can be traced back to oral health problems. This conversation could literally save your life. Dr. Jorgensen's journey began when she became critically ill from mercury exposure while performing routine dental procedures. After con...
Send a text Could mold be the hidden culprit behind your mysterious health symptoms? In this eye-opening conversation with Kim Rogers of Rogers Hood Apothecary, we dive deep into the often-overlooked world of mold illness and its devastating effects on health. Kim shares her personal battle with black toxic mold (Aspergillus niger) poisoning that caused alarming symptoms including swollen eyes, severe brain fog, significant hair loss, and stubborn weight issues. After 18 years in the medical...
Send a text Experience the remarkable journey of Herb Richards, a 96-year-old health advocate who defies conventional wisdom with his profound insights into holistic healing. Herb's path began with tragedy when his first wife succumbed to cancer treatments that ultimately failed her. Determined to uncover the true roots of health and disease, Herb embarked on a lifelong quest for knowledge that has spanned decades. His discoveries, including successful treatments for Lyme disease and the crit...
Send a text What if the solutions to many of our health problems have been right under our noses, yet suppressed by mainstream medicine? Join us for an eye-opening conversation with Dr. Robert Yoho, a retired medical doctor who offers a bold take on alternative therapies that challenge the status quo. From chlorine dioxide and DMSO to OSR, Dr. Yoho unveils treatments that could make some pharmaceuticals obsolete. We explore the controversial idea that toxicity is a root cause of numerous heal...
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