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Defining Hospitality
Author: Dan Ryan
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Welcome to Defining Hospitality, the podcast focused on highlighting the most influential figures in the hospitality industry. In each episode we provide 1 on 1, in depth interviews with experts in the industry to learn what hospitality means to them. We feature expert advice on working in the industry, behind the scenes looks at some of your favorite brands, and in depth explorations of unique hospitality projects.
Defining Hospitality is hosted by Founder and CEO of Agency 967, Dan Ryan. With over 30 years of experience in hospitality, Dan brings his expertise and passion to each episode as he delves into the latest trends and challenges facing the industry.
Episodes are released every week on Wednesday mornings.
To listen to episodes, visit https://www.defininghospitality.live/ or subscribe to Defining Hospitality wherever you get your podcasts.
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On this special re-air episode of Defining Hospitality, we revisit a powerful conversation on people-centric leadership and the enduring value of culture with Marc Bromley, Regional Vice President and General Manager at Four Seasons Hotel Washington, D.C. Drawing from decades in luxury hospitality, and lessons passed down from his father, legendary hotelier Stan Bromley, Marc shares why exceptional guest experiences always start with taking exceptional care of employees.The conversation explores the idea of a true “culture of care” and how it’s built, measured, and sustained. Marc explains how Four Seasons prioritizes employee well-being through clear values, rigorous feedback loops, and biannual employee opinion surveys that are treated as more important than financial or guest satisfaction metrics. The episode also dives into mentorship, hiring for attitude over skill, adapting leadership paths for new generations, and balancing uncompromising standards with empathy and wellness. Takeaways: Prioritize creating a culture of care within your organization. This means placing a high value on caring for employees first, which in turn enhances the customer experience.Implement regular employee opinion surveys (at least twice a year) to gauge employee satisfaction and identify areas for improvement. Take this feedback seriously and create action plans based on the results.Emphasize the importance of attention to detail among your team. Lead by example and teach your team to notice and address small issues before they become big problems.Provide your managers with opportunities to lead by ensuring they are the ones to address issues raised by senior leadership or general managers, rather than bypassing them.Focus on hiring for will and training for skill. Invest in continuous training and development programs that align with your organizational culture.Create a robust feedback mechanism where employees receive regular and constructive feedback. Recognize and reward good performance, and provide support and training where needed.Encourage a work-life balance within your team. Promote wellness initiatives and ensure that employees do not burn out.Quote of the Show:“ Not to say we won't move heaven and earth and create legendary, world-class, luxurious, five-star experiences for our guests, but we openly declare that the employee comes first.” - Marc BromleyLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbromley/ Website: https://www.fourseasons.com/ Shout Outs:1:11 - Stan Bromley https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/A-star-hotelier-bids-a-fond-farewell-Four-2564654.php 1:53 - The Admiral’s Club https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/clubs/admirals-club.jsp 1:54 - San Francisco International Airport https://www.flysfo.com/ 2:23 - Jordan Bromley https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-bromley-278742b8/ 7:45 - Wolf Blitzer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Blitzer 7:47 - Bill Clinton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton 9:12 - Ohio State University https://www.osu.edu/ 9:15 - Michigan State University https://msu.edu/ 9:43 - Issy Sharp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadore_Sharp 10:06 - Hyatt https://www.hyatt.com/ 11:09 - Peninsula Hotels https://www.peninsula.com/en/default 14:05 - Forbes https://www.forbes.com/ 14:07 - TripAdvisor https://www.tripadvisor.com/ 14:09 - Michelin Guide https://guide.michelin.com/en 40:02 - Mike Tyson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
How do you scale hospitality without losing quality, trust, or operational control? In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Ashley Ching, Founder & CEO of Inhaven, for a deep dive into the hidden limits of scale in hospitality and vacation rentals. They explore why service-based businesses often face diseconomies of scale, what leaders can learn from the rapid rise and fall of business, and how complexity, not competition, is often the true threat to growth. Ashley also shares how Inhaven is redefining standardization, elevating local expertise, and rebuilding trust in vacation rentals through consistent bed, bath, and kitchen experiences.Takeaways:Know when scale becomes a liability. Not every business benefits from getting bigger, evaluate whether growth will increase cost and complexity instead of efficiency.Reduce complexity early and often. Streamlined markets, clear standards, and simple operations make it easier to maintain quality and respond to change.Invest in strong local operations. Empower teams with on-the-ground knowledge to solve problems quickly and uphold service standards.Standardize what matters most. Consistent bed, bath, and kitchen experiences, or their equivalents in your industry, build trust and reduce operational waste.Grow with discipline, not impulse. Resist “growth for growth’s sake” and prioritize sustainable expansion rooted in quality, clarity, and long-term value.Quote of the Show:“Hospitality is really an expression of honor. It's how you honor yourself, your team, your guests, and your ancestors.” - Ashley ChingLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-ching-inhaven-b56a843/ Inhaven’s Company website: https://inhaven.com/ Inhaven’s Case Study: https://inhaven.com/case-study/ Inhaven’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inhavenkeep/ Ashley’s Website: https://ashleyching.com/ Shout Outs:3:31 - Ball Corporation https://www.ball.com/ 3:50 - SpaceX https://www.spacex.com/ 3:55 - Tesla https://www.tesla.com/ 7:52 - Ambridge Hospitality https://www.aimbridgehospitality.com/ 7:55 - Vacasa https://www.vacasa.com/ 10:59 - Turnkey https://www.turnkey.com/ 15:08 - Small Giants by Bo Burlingham http://www.smallgiantsbook.com/purchase.html 16:37 - Forney School District in Dallas, TX https://www.forneyisd.net/ 21:20 - Sonder https://www.sonder.com/ 23:43 - Seinfeld https://www.sonypictures.com/tv/seinfeld 24:26 - Pappa’s Restaurant Group https://www.pappas.com/ 26:58 - Extended Stay America https://www.extendedstayamerica.com/ 27:58 - Kool-Aid https://www.kraftheinz.com/kool-aid/products 28:09 - Chick-fil-A https://www.chick-fil-a.com/ 30:35 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 30:36 - Hilton https://www.hilton.com/en/ 31:23 - Hyatt https://www.hyatt.com/loyalty/en-US 31:25 - Hotels.com31:26 - Expedia https://www.expedia.com/ 31:38 - Airbnb https://www.airbnb.com/ 31:39 - Vrbo https://www.vrbo.com/ 33:14 - Ford https://www.ford.com/ 33:16 - Toyota https://www.toyota.com/ 52:47 - Gold Key Awards https://goldkeyawards.com/ 55:03 - Radical Innovation Ceremony https://www.radicalinnovation.io/insights/radicalinnovation2024-rwej2 55:08 - University of Nevada, Las Vegas https://www.unlv.edu/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
How do you build hospitality experiences, and lead teams, in a way that’s rooted in authenticity, multicultural awareness, and a clear sense of purpose?In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Anna Peretz, Director of Architecture, Design, and Construction at Sonesta International Hotels, to explore her journey from the USSR to Israel to the U.S., and how resilience, cultural diversity, and a passion for people shaped her approach to hospitality. Together, they unpack the balance between design and business realities, the role of authenticity in leadership, and the importance of mentoring future talent while maintaining personal well-being.Takeaways:Lead with authenticity. Genuine care builds trust and creates memorable experiences for guests, teams, and partners.Be stubborn about the vision, flexible about the path. Hold your purpose firmly but stay adaptable in how you achieve it.Hire and mentor for values. Prioritize authenticity, curiosity, and passion, not just technical skill, when building and developing teams.Integrate creative and financial thinking. Understanding business fundamentals helps ensure projects deliver real value and avoid costly misalignment.Protect your well-being and relationships. Sustainable leadership requires rest, boundaries, and intentional time for family and personal growth.Quote of the Show:“I am going to be stubborn about my vision, but I'm going to be flexible about the way I'm going to get to it.” - Anna Peretz Connect with Anna:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-peretz-mba-leed-ga-65395034/ Sonesta Hotels Website: https://www.sonesta.com/ Shout Outs:2:24 - Sonesta International Hotels https://www.sonesta.com/ 6:27 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/ 6:52 - Edition Hotel Times Square https://www.editionhotels.com/times-square/?cid=PAI_GLB00062XA_GLE000EBH2_GLF000WZAA&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=14386092909&gbraid=0AAAAABLTXSAe_GAwZjWcjGSzE7cqTuZHu&gclid=Cj0KCQiAosrJBhD0ARIsAHebCNoZOdNNh_E51LUng1nD0CuTzEDGbubsOvSeQd1LUeGTjIjG1raz4SUaApszEALw_wcB 7:54 - Le Labo Perfume https://www.lelabofragrances.com/ 10:38 - Mango https://shop.mango.com/us/en/h/home 21:05 - Nike https://www.nike.com/ 32:35 - Who: The A Method for Hiring by Geoff Smart https://geoffsmart.com/books/who-the-a-method-for-hiring/ 32:50 - Top Grading by Bradford D. Smart https://topgrading.com/books 37:36 - Marymount Manhattan College https://www.mmm.edu/ 37:48 - Restoration Hardware https://rh.com/us/en/ 45:44 - Simon Sinek Ted Talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuA 53:51 - Pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/ 55:40 - Microsoft Excel https://excel.cloud.microsoft/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
How do you decide where, and whether, to grow in a way that’s strategic, sustainable, and aligned with your organization’s values?In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Paul Sacco, Chief Growth and Development Officer at PM Hotel Group, to unpack the real thought process behind geographic expansion, from evaluating new markets to choosing the right partners. Paul reveals why his team rejects “growth for growth’s sake” and instead relies on a collaborative, intentional model that brings every voice to the table.He breaks down how they assess operational readiness, including whether nearby assets and staff can support a new deal, and why the quality of the asset, and their ability to truly add value, must pass a high bar. Dan and Paul also explore the importance of long-term owner satisfaction and why alignment in mindset and values is essential before entering any new relationship. This is a grounded look at strategic expansion, operational discipline, leadership, and building partnerships that last.Takeaways:Growth must be intentional. Expansion only works when it aligns with long-term vision, not just short-term metrics.Collaboration strengthens decisions. Involving diverse internal stakeholders leads to more thoughtful, well-rounded evaluations.Operational readiness is non-negotiable. Entering a market requires existing coverage or the ability to provide hands-on, high-quality oversight.Pick opportunities where you can add real value. Focus on assets where your operational expertise creates meaningful impact for owners.Choose aligned partners. Working with owners who share your mindset and values builds trust, longevity, and mutually beneficial growth.Quote of the Show:“Hospitality isn’t just something we do. Ultimately, it’s who we are. I think it rewards empathy, resilience, and creativity." - Paul SaccoLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulsaccolnkd/ PM Hotel Group website: https://pmhotelgroup.com/ Reach out to Paul: psacco@pmhotelgroup.com Shout Outs:3:57 - PM Hotel Group https://pmhotelgroup.com/ 4:33 - Starwood Hotels and Resorts https://www.starwoodhotels.com/ 14:23 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 14:24 - Hilton https://www.hilton.com/en/ 14:27 - Hyatt https://www.hyatt.com/loyalty/en-US 14:28 - IHG https://www.ihg.com/hotels/us/en/reservation 14:29 - Cambria by Choice Hotels https://www.choicehotelsdevelopment.com/our-brands/upscale/cambria32:02 - Kimpton by IHG https://www.ihg.com/kimptonhotels/hotels/us/en/reservation?adobe_mc=MCMID%3D43892042454798006989222247485972863449%7CMCORGID%3D8EAD67C25245B1870A490D4C%2540AdobeOrg%7CTS%3D1764601036 32:05 - Regent Hotels https://www.ihg.com/regent/hotels/us/en/reservation 38:31 - Tideline Palm Beach Ocean Resort and Spa https://tidelineresort.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
How do architects create airports that feel human, intuitive, and welcoming while juggling regulations, budgets, and countless stakeholders? In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with John Anthal, Principal and Aviation Sector Leader at Mancini Duffy, to unpack the hidden complexity of airport design, the evolving meaning of hospitality in aviation, and how leadership, technology, and culture shape the future of large-scale infrastructure.John pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to design terminals for millions of travelers, from Lufthansa’s JFK lounge to major Port Authority projects, while keeping the end user at the center. They explore human-scale design in massive public spaces, the tension between grand architecture and comfort, how AI and new tools are transforming the studio, and why empowering young designers leads to the most innovative ideas. This is a deep dive into architecture, hospitality, leadership, and the future of air travel, grounded in real-world lessons from one of the industry’s most experienced aviation designers.Takeaways:Airport projects are full of regulations, politics, and competing priorities but success hinges on never losing sight of the end user. Human-scale touches and thoughtful amenities transform overwhelming spaces into welcoming ones.Creating comfort in aviation means understanding diverse travelers and reinforcing brand through design. Small cultural cues, like Lufthansa’s pickle bar, build familiarity and ease.U.S. airports often struggle with outdated systems and tight sites. Long project timelines require forward-thinking, adaptable planning that anticipates future technologies and growth.Entrepreneurial thinking drives new opportunities. Employees are encouraged to pitch new business ideas and build new verticals, creating a culture where initiative is celebrated.Technology is an enabler, not a replacement. AI tools and modern platforms like Revit enhance creativity and efficiency, helping teams visualize ideas faster and communicate them more powerfully.Quote of the Show:“Learning more from other clients helps us solve problems for our existing clients in ways we hadn’t thought about before. It’s about a diversity of knowledge in a niche market.” - John AnthalLinks:John’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-anthal-98849b103/ Mancini Duffy Company website: https://www.manciniduffy.com/ Mancini Duffy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mancini_duffy/ Shout Outs:1:57 - Defining Hospitality Episode with Christian Giordano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtU_jwh2YDI 2:21 - Entrepreneurs Organization https://eonetwork.org/ 2:31 - Mancini Duffy https://www.manciniduffy.com/ 3:24 - New York/New Jersey Port Authority https://www.panynj.gov/port-authority/en/index.html 6:08 - Lufthansa https://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/homepage 6:10 - John F. Kennedy Airport https://www.jfkairport.com/ 6:26 - LaGuardia Airport https://www.laguardiaairport.com/ 8:38 - Newark Airport https://www.newarkairport.com/ 8:48 - American Airlines https://www.aa.com/homePage.do 10:39 - Air Canada aircanada.com 16:27 - Grimshaw https://grimshaw.global/ 19:35 - Hong Kong International Airport https://www.hongkongairport.com/26:01 - Washington Subway System https://www.wmata.com/service/rail/ 28:52 - AutoCAD https://www.autodesk.com/ 35:29 - FAA https://www.faa.gov/ 35:37 - Boeing https://www.boeing.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What happens when hospitality shifts from serving to empowering, when chefs become creators, not just cooks?In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Emmie Nostitz and Zach Knight, co-founders of Tivity, a platform redefining private dining by connecting clients with talented chefs for personalized in-home and venue experiences. Together, they explore how Tivity empowers chefs to run their own businesses, foster creativity, and bring hospitality back to its human roots.Emmie and Zach share how Tivity began as a passion project and evolved into a chef-centered movement operating across the U.S. and abroad. They discuss their philosophy of quality over quantity, the delicate balance between technology and personal connection, and why thoughtful growth matters more than rapid expansion. From intimate dinners to large-scale events, they reveal how every experience becomes a creative collaboration, crafted with care, trust, and authenticity.You’ll hear insights on what it means to empower creators, how to manage expectations gracefully, and why true hospitality begins with empathy and human connection. Tivity’s story offers a blueprint for sustainable growth, purpose-driven leadership, and a reimagined future for dining.Takeaways:By centering chefs and giving them creative control, Tivity transforms both the chef and guest experience. When people feel trusted and supported, creativity and quality naturally flourish.Managing expectations, listening deeply, and fostering genuine connection are at the heart of every memorable event. True care and empathy turn a simple dinner into an unforgettable experience.Sustainable success comes from prioritizing trust, quality, and cultural integrity over rapid scaling. Tivity’s slow, deliberate growth proves that meaningful relationships outlast quick wins.Smart systems streamline operations, but they can’t replace the power of personal touch. Tivity uses technology to enhance connection—not to automate it away.The founders envision a world where booking a private chef is as easy as ordering takeout. By making chef-led experiences accessible and personal, they’re reshaping how we think about dining and hospitality.Quote of the Show:“There’s nothing more intimate and human than someone coming into your home, creating a meal, and then sharing that meal.” - Emmie Nostitz“If the chef has the tools they need to execute a meal, which is their passion or their pursuit, then they’re going to crush it.” - Zach KnightLinks:LinkedInZach’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zach-knight-3916931bb/ Emmie’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmie-nostitz-23b2545/ Company website: https://www.thetivity.com/ InstagramEmmie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emmienostitz/ Tivity’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_tivity/ Shout Outs:8:39 - SharkTank https://abc.com/show/535e2b07-18a9-4d94-9803-9ed8257b9d23 8:46 - Uber https://www.uber.com/ 25:18 - Small Giants by Bo Berlinggain https://www.amazon.com/Small-Giants-Companies-Instead-10th-Anniversary/dp/014310960X 26:40 - Zingerman’s https://www.zingermans.com/ 32:36 - Uber Eats https://www.ubereats.com/ 32:37 - Seamless https://www.seamless.com/ 33:02 - Nobu https://noburestaurants.com/ 38:11 - Uchi Restaurant Group https://www.uchirestaurants.com/ 38:45 - Adobe Illustrator https://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator.html 42:10 - Aspen Mountain https://www.aspensnowmass.com/ 53:2 - Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike https://www.amazon.com/Shoe-Dog-Memoir-Creator-Nike/dp/1501135910 56:46 - Google https://www.google.com/ 59:03 - OpenTable https://www.opentable.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What happens when brand becomes more than a logo and turns into a decision-making framework for every part of hospitality?In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Matt Ferebee, co-founder and Chief Creative Officer of FerebeeLane, to explore how powerful brand strategy shapes luxury hospitality experiences from the inside out. Drawing on his work with properties like Blackberry Farm and global brands like The Ritz-Carlton, Matt shares how authentic care, storytelling, and culture-building drive excellence across teams and guest touchpoints.They unpack what it means to truly live your story, how to operationalize brand values so they guide every decision, and why human connection remains irreplaceable in a tech-driven world. From empowering staff to embody a brand’s “North Star” to handling mistakes with grace, this conversation reveals how thoughtful branding becomes the heartbeat of extraordinary hospitality.Takeaways: Branding becomes most powerful when it’s used as a framework for decision-making, not just a visual identity. When a brand’s purpose and values are clear, they guide everyone toward a unified guest experience.True hospitality is about genuine care and attention to others, not just providing services. The best experiences are built on human warmth, empathy, and small, thoughtful gestures that make guests feel truly welcomed.A lasting culture of excellence depends on communication, empowerment, and a shared commitment to improvement. The strongest brands don’t simply tell stories, they live them. Every design choice, service moment, and guest interaction becomes an opportunity to bring the brand’s story to life in an authentic way.Technology can enhance efficiency, but it should never replace the human touch that defines true hospitality. Balancing innovation with the timeless power of real human connection is the future.Quote of the Show: “Genuine hospitality is the saving grace in the midst of things going wrong.” - Matt FerebeeLinks:Matt’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-ferebee-2287566/ FerebeeLane’s Company website: https://www.ferebeelane.com/ FerebeeLane’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ferebeelane/ Shout Outs:5:41 - Blackberry Farms https://www.blackberryfarm.com/ 12:29 - Biltmore House https://www.biltmore.com/ 12:31 - Shelburn Farms https://shelburnefarms.org/ 24:11 - The Barn at Blackberry Farm https://www.blackberryfarm.com/wine-food/restaurants/the-barn 28:35 - Marvel Architecture https://marveldesigns.com/ 34:48 - The Ritz Carlton https://www.ritzcarlton.com/ 35:04 - The Ritz Carlton Bacara https://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/hotels/sbarz-the-ritz-carlton-bacara-santa-barbara/overview/ 37:27 - The Ritz-Carlton O‘ahu, Turtle Bay https://www.turtlebayresort.com/ 53:01 - JW Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 54:03 - St. Regis Hotel https://st-regis.marriott.com/ 54:52 - Grand Bohemian Hotels https://www.kesslercollection.com/our-hotels/ 55:13 - The Pig Hotel https://www.thepighotel.com/ 55:45 - La Creuset https://www.lecreuset.com/ 57:06 - Thermador https://www.thermador.com/us/ 57:22 - Lotus Kitchen Appliances https://lotuscooking.com/ 57:39 - Stitch Golf https://stitchgolf.com/ 59:08 - Disney https://www.disney.com/ 59:12 - Star Wars https://www.starwars.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What does authentic, people-centered hospitality look like?In this episode, Dan Ryan talks with Margot Stern, hospitality entrepreneur and founder of Avenida Baja and The Hopewell, about her journey from global marketing at Mattel to building boutique hotels rooted in community and belonging. They explore how authenticity, storytelling, and resilience shape successful hospitality ventures and what it takes to raise capital, navigate local politics, and lead with empathy in a traditionally male-dominated industry.Margot defines hospitality as creating a true sense of welcome, shares candid insights from her path as a female founder, and reveals how transparency, vision, and community engagement can turn challenges into opportunities for growth.Takeaways: True hospitality starts with creating a genuine sense of belonging, when people feel truly seen and valued, everything else follows.Embrace career pivots and unexpected opportunities as pathways to growth; every experience can build skills that serve future ventures.Use storytelling and clear visuals to communicate your vision; numbers matter, but emotional connection inspires belief and investment.Engage openly with communities and stakeholders early in any project; transparency builds trust and helps turn resistance into collaboration.Choose investors, partners, and mentors who align with your values and vision, mutual respect is the foundation of sustainable success.Innovate in how you raise funds and share your story; modern tools like crowdfunding and digital platforms can help you reach new, supportive audiences.Quote of the Show:“Sometimes things don't work out exactly the way you want and it can turn into something beautiful" - Margot SternLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margot-stern-67a0a97/ Company website: https://www.avenidabaja.com/ , https://www.the-hopewell.com/ Instagram: Personal: https://www.instagram.com/margot_stern/?hl=en Avenida Baja: https://www.instagram.com/avenidabaja/?hl=en The Hopewell: https://www.instagram.com/the_hopewell/# Shout Outs:1:10 - The Lauder Institute/The Wharton School https://lauder.wharton.upenn.edu/2:23 - University of Pennsylvania https://www.upenn.edu/ 13:35 - Independent Lodging Congress https://ilcongress.com/ 33:15 - James Beard Awards https://www.jamesbeard.org/awards 34:37 - The Stockton Inn https://www.stocktoninn.com/ 37:20 - Philadelphia Magazine https://www.phillymag.com/ 49:07 - Death and Co. https://www.deathandcompany.com/ 49:15 - Crowdfunding https://www.crowdfunding.com/ 1:00:38 - Entrepreneurs Organization (EO) https://eonetwork.org/?scLang=en 1:00:42 - Young Presidents’ Organization (YPO) https://www.ypo.org/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What does carbon-positive hospitality look like? In this episode, Dan Ryan talks with Jon Buerge, CEO of Urban Villages, about Populus, the world’s first carbon-positive hotel, and how sustainability is reshaping hospitality from the ground up. They explore how design, materials, and mindset can transform guest experiences, strengthen brand loyalty, and create long-term business value.Jon shares the story behind Populus and the vision driving Urban Villages’ sustainable developments. He defines hospitality as a selfless pursuit of extraordinary experiences and explains why true hospitality must include care for the planet. From innovative building materials like fly ash concrete to transparent, guest-facing sustainability efforts, Jon and Dan discuss how Populus is redefining what it means to host with purpose.Takeaways:True hospitality is rooted in empathy and selfless guest care, with sustainability at its core.Populus Hotel was designed to leave the planet better than it was found through carbon-positive innovation.Sustainability enhances business performance by lowering costs and increasing guest loyalty.The hospitality industry must evolve beyond rigid policies to embrace flexible, holistic sustainability solutions.Investors are increasingly prioritizing sustainable projects that align with long-term environmental goals.Consumer demand, especially among younger generations, is driving the industry toward greener practices.Quote of the Show:“Hospitality is the kind of unwavering and selfless pursuit of an extraordinary experience for a guest” - Jon BuergeLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-buerge-95229118/ Company website: https://urban-villages.com/ Populus Denver: https://populusdenver.com/ Populus Seattle: https://populusseattle.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/urban.villages/ Shout Outs:9:25 - Populus Hotel https://populusdenver.com/ 15:16 - McKinsey Study https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/talk-is-cheap-how-much-will-consumers-really-pay-for-green-products 15:27 - Bookings.com study https://news.booking.com/bookingcoms-2025-research-reveals-growing-traveler-awareness-of-tourism-impact-on-communities-both-at-home-and-abroad/ 16:35 - Patagonia https://www.patagonia.com/home/ 18:45 - Denver Office of Climate Change https://denvergov.org/Government/Agencies-Departments-Offices/Agencies-Departments-Offices-Directory/Climate-Action-Sustainability-and-Resiliency 23:33 - Aparium https://www.aparium.com/ 28:18 - Lead Certification https://www.epa.gov/lead/getcertified 29:05 - Metropolis Magazine https://metropolismag.com/ 32:15 - Mind Click https://www.mindclick.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
Can structure and systems actually make hospitality feel more human?Yann de Rochefort, founder of Boqueria Restaurants, has spent the last 20 years redefining what modern hospitality feels like. From a single tapas bar in Manhattan to beloved locations across the U.S., Yann has built a restaurant brand rooted in warmth, culture, and design, all while keeping the experience consistent and deeply human. Yann shares how structure creates freedom, why culture matters more than any single person, and how intentional design can make every guest feel at home the moment they walk in. He also opens up about scaling Boqueria through stormy seas, building resilient teams, and leading with purpose in one of the toughest industries around.Takeaways: Build strong habits and systems in your work or business. This structure provides the freedom to improvise and be creative when needed.Prioritize genuine human connection over transactional interactions. Listen, observe, and tailor your approach to each individual’s needs.People may come and go, but a strong, clearly defined culture anchored in real values, beliefs, and rituals will sustain and grow your organization.Don’t just put values on a wall. Integrate them into daily language, feedback, and rituals so they become part of your team’s identity and decision-making.When expanding or collaborating, ensure alignment in values, energy, and target audience. Don’t compromise on what makes your brand unique.The hospitality industry offers steep career paths for those willing to learn and work hard. Invest in training and provide opportunities for advancement.Sometimes the simplest products (like dates wrapped in bacon) become customer favorites. Don’t overlook the power of doing simple things exceptionally well.Quote of the Show:“What distinguishes hospitality from a transaction is the human connection.” - Yann de RochefortLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yann-de-rochefort-1050771/ Website: https://boqueriarestaurant.com/ Book Link: https://a.co/d/5LmLh57 Shout Outs:1:07 - James Beard Foundation https://www.jamesbeard.org/ 2:05 - AC Hotels https://ac-hotels.marriott.com/ 2:24 - Schnippers https://www.schnippers.com/location/schnippers-times-square/ 3:12 - Dave Trost https://davetrostdesign.com/ 5:30 - Ethan Gabany https://www.linkedin.com/in/egabany/ 5:37 - Hyatt https://www.hyatt.com/loyalty/en-US 5:55 - Bon Appetit Magazine https://www.bonappetit.com/ 5:58 - Houston/Hillstone’s https://www.houstons.com/ 13:56 - Meyer Davis https://www.meyerdavis.com/ 18:11 - Will Meyer https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-meyer-7685677/ 22:45 - Mike Tyson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson 26:15 - Ritz Carlton https://www.ritzcarlton.com/ 28:38 - Mark Green https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachmarkgreen/ 36:48 - Hampton Inn https://www.hilton.com/en/brands/hampton-by-hilton/ 36:53 - Moxy https://moxy-hotels.marriott.com/ 36:57 - W Hotels https://w-hotels.marriott.com/ 43:02 - Entrepreneurs’ Organization https://eonetwork.org/ 45:52 - Setting the Table https://a.co/d/fvTjMA9 45:54 - Danny Meyer https://www.ushg.com/team/danny-meyer 45:58 - Union Square Cafe https://www.unionsquarecafe.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What makes hospitality design truly memorable?Today, Dan is joined by James Lee, Hospitality Managing Director and Design Principal at IA Interior Architects. James discusses the blurring lines between architecture and interior design in the context of hospitality, emphasizing the emotional impact of interior spaces. They explore the unique focus of IA on creating immersive and memorable experiences through design. James shares insights on the importance of understanding local culture for international projects, the role of social media in contemporary design research, and the significance of budget considerations in executing successful hospitality projects. Additionally, the conversation highlights the team's innovative approach, exemplified by their radical innovation project, 'The Passage,' aimed at repurposing abandoned railway lines into sustainable hotel destinations. James discusses the collaborative efforts within IA and emphasizes nurturing young talent to drive creative and impactful design solutions.Takeaways: Blur the lines between architecture and interiors to create seamless, holistic hospitality experiences that connect with both the mind and the heart.Lead with storytelling in your design process. A powerful narrative makes spaces resonate emotionally and ensures people remember the moments they experience there.Involve local culture and community in your projects by researching social media, visiting neighborhoods, and identifying authentic “sense of place” elements to celebrate.Engage trusted partners early (lighting, FF&E, or case goods specialists) to ground your creative vision in realistic budgets and avoid costly redesign cycles.Dedicate a portion of time each week to innovation. Even two hours of “white space” thinking can spark ideas that transform projects and strengthen team collaboration.Mentor younger designers by channeling their raw creativity into workable solutions, blending fresh energy with experienced guidance to push design forward.Treat sustainability as both a design principle and a responsibility. Look for ways to repurpose structures, reduce waste, and give back to the community through your projects.Quote of the Show:“ Let's not try to hit the brain, let’s try to hit the heart. Let the story really relate to what we wanna say, not just literally, but emotionally.” - James LeeLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-lee-6430ab71/ Website: https://interiorarchitects.com/ Radical Innovation Voting Form: https://form.typeform.com/to/BoqOp3CR?typeform-source=www.radicalinnovation.io Shout Outs:1:30 - Four Seasons https://www.fourseasons.com/ 1:31 - Ritz-Carlton https://www.ritzcarlton.com/ 1:32 - Marriott International https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 12:33 - Incline Village https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incline_Village,_Nevada 17:38 - Radical Innovations https://www.radicalinnovation.io/ 18:03 - The Passage https://vimeo.com/1117799335?fl=pl&fe=vl 41:25 - Veronica Givone https://www.linkedin.com/in/veronica-givone-1234bba/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What happens when luxury design meets the wild?Award-winning designer, Graeme Labe, Managing Partner and Chief Design Officer at Luxury Frontiers, shares how he’s redefining hospitality by crafting experiences that connect people deeply to nature, while championing sustainability and community. Graeme shares his journey from traditional hospitality design to founding Luxury Frontiers, which focuses on creating unique, luxurious experiences in remote locations. The conversation covers topics such as the importance of experiential hospitality, the challenges of working in remote environments, and the role of sustainability and community engagement in their projects. Graeme also discusses the innovation culture within his team, their participation in the Radical Innovation Award, and the significance of site-specific design.Takeaways: Focus on creating unique, immersive experiences that connect guests to their environment, rather than just providing traditional luxury.Design experiences that gently push guests out of their comfort zones, allowing them to grow while still feeling safe and cared for.Integrate sustainability into every aspect of your projects: from site selection and building materials to community engagement and ongoing operations.Foster a culture of innovation within your team. Set up internal labs or competitions to encourage experimentation with new materials and ideas.Use natural materials and let the surrounding environment take center stage in your designs. Break down barriers between indoors and outdoors to enhance biophilic experiences.Thoughtfully integrate technology to improve comfort and accessibility, but also create opportunities for guests to disconnect and fully immerse themselves in the experience.Treat logistical, regulatory, and environmental constraints as opportunities to innovate and improve your designs.Quote of the Show:“ It’s those moments that take you out of your comfort zone, when you’re truly immersed in a place, that change your life. That’s the kind of experience we try to design for.” - Graeme LabeLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/graeme-labe-a0332b19/ Website: https://www.luxury-frontiers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/luxury_frontiers/ Shout Outs:1:16 - Radical Innovation https://www.radicalinnovation.io/ 1:53 - AHEAD Awards https://www.aheadawards.com/ 5:26 - The Lion King https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_King 7:08 - Orient Express Hotels https://www.orient-express.com/hotels 9:47 - Volkswagen https://www.vw.com/en.html 9:48 - Coleman https://www.coleman.com/ 22:16 - Luca Franco https://www.linkedin.com/in/luca-franco-5507b311/ 28:18 - Blue Sky Award https://www.blueskyawards.com/en/ 30:41 - Anomien Smith https://www.linkedin.com/in/anomien-smith-73917715/ 35:02 - The Crown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown_(TV_series) 35:05 - King George https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_III 35:09 - Queen Elizabeth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II 41:34 - Hirsch Bedner https://hba.com/ 41:45 - Michael Bedner https://hba.com/legacy/ 50:59 - Six Senses https://www.sixsenses.com/en/ 51:04 - Ritz Carlton https://www.ritzcarlton.com/ 51:06 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 51:07 - Four Seasons https://www.fourseasons.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What does it take to lead a hotel company through constant headwinds while still inspiring teams and delivering exceptional guest experiences?Today Dan interviews Scott Roby, President of Pacifica Hotels, to explore the state of the hospitality industry. They discuss the importance of focusing on controllable aspects of business, such as team and guest care, amid economic headwinds and legislative challenges in California. Scott shares insights on Pacifica's strategy of balancing ownership and third-party management, the value of maintaining a strong company culture, and the critical role of technology in the industry. The conversation also touches upon the future prospects and financial strategies for 2026 and beyond, emphasizing a meticulous approach to cost management and team accountability.Takeaways: Encourage team members to share where they’re stuck or what could make their jobs better. Leaders should model vulnerability and ask focused questions like, “What’s one thing I can do to make your job easier?”Embrace technology and AI to streamline operations and enhance guest experiences. Use tech to remove rote tasks, freeing up staff for more meaningful guest interactions.When working with third-party owners or management partners, ensure alignment in values and culture. Have honest conversations early to avoid misfits that can erode company culture.Monitor both macro and micro trends in your market. Be prepared to pivot operations, staffing, and capital allocation as needed to respond to changing conditions.Build a culture of accountability. Be direct, give open feedback, and focus on solutions. Transparency with owners and team members builds trust and drives better results.Offer opportunities for team members to advance within your organization, which helps with retention and creates a stronger, more flexible workforce.At its core, hospitality is about making people feel safe, seen, and heard. Whether with guests or team members, focus on building relationships and delivering care.Quote of the Show:“A hotel management company is its people. The quality of the company is first and foremost about the people that they have on their team and how they're leading and inspiring the hotel teams.” - Scott RobyLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottroby/ Website: https://www.pacificahotels.com/ Shout Outs:1:04 - Storyteller Hospitality https://storytellerhospitality.com/ 1:08 - Evolution Hospitality https://www.evolutionhospitality.com/ 2:52 - Independent Lodging Conference https://ilcongress.com/ 15:51 - The Serenity Prayer https://www.praywithme.com/serenity-prayer.html 17:27 - Tapestry Hotels https://www.hilton.com/en/brands/tapestry-collection/ 17:28 - Hilton https://www.hilton.com/en/ 20:01 - World Cup https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/canadamexicousa2026 55:00 - Smith Travel https://smith.travel/ 55:01 - Hotel Data Conference https://www.hoteldataconference.com/event/89ca421c-aff8-4d2b-a772-c71c8d0bf627/home 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
Is EQ more important than IQ when it comes to hospitality?Today, Manish Puri, General Manager of the Regent Hotels and Resorts Bali, joins Dan to dive into key topics in the industry, such as sustainability, community, and leadership. They discuss the essence of hospitality, differentiating it from mere service, and delve into the concept of regenerative hospitality and sustainability. Manish shares insights from his career at prestigious hotel brands like Oberoi, Burj Al Arab, Six Senses, and Regent Bali. They explore how sustainability initiatives can transform the industry, turning cost centers into investment centers, and the importance of heartfelt service. The conversation also covers the challenges of opening and managing new hotels and the impact of leadership and open-heartedness in inspiring younger generations in the hospitality industry.Takeaways: Embrace regenerative practices by viewing waste as an opportunity to create value, turning sustainability efforts into investments rather than costs.Lead by example and integrity. Your actions are always being observed, so inspire others by consistently doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.Pay attention to the small details in your work. Excellence is built on thousands of thoughtful, consistent actions rather than a single grand gesture.Foster a culture of genuine care and positivity. Small acts of kindness and authentic smiles can create a powerful ripple effect throughout your organization.Design guest programs that encourage visitors to give back to the local community, such as volunteering or sharing their expertise, creating a positive impact beyond their stay.Treat sustainability initiatives as opportunities for investment and growth, not just as expenses. Find ways to turn environmental responsibility into tangible value.Quote of the Show:“ A luxury brand has to have that caring side of it. Caring for the environment, caring for all stakeholders, caring for the community. Without it, you are not a complete hotel.” - Manish PuriLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/manish-puri-36241231/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/manpuri/ Website: https://www.ihg.com/regent/hotels/us/en/reservation Shout Outs:1:15 - Oberoi Hotels and Resorts https://www.oberoihotels.com/ 1:16 - Burj Al Arab https://www.jumeirah.com/en/Stay/Dubai/Burj-Al-Arab-Jumeirah 1:17 - Potato Head https://seminyak.potatohead.co/ 1:22 - Six Senses https://www.sixsenses.com/en/ 2:28 - IHG https://www.ihg.com/hotels/us/en/reservation 2:30 - Kimpton https://www.ihg.com/kimptonhotels/hotels/us/en/reservation 2:33 - Intercontinental https://www.ihg.com/intercontinental/hotels/us/en/reservation 5:10 - Beverly Wilshire https://www.fourseasons.com/beverlywilshire/ 5:12 - Pretty Woman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Woman 5:48 - Four Seasons https://www.fourseasons.com/ 5:49 - Jim Brown https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-brown-718240a/ 22:42 - TripAdvisor https://www.tripadvisor.com/ 28:45 - Tom Cruise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise 28:52 - Grand Hyatt https://www.hyatt.com/grand-hyatt/en-US 28: 53 - Kempinski Palace https://www.kempinski.com/en/palace-portoroz 29:02 - University of Oxford https://www.ox.ac.uk/ 29:02 - Cornell University https://www.cornell.edu/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What happens when a hotel developer moves from building Hampton Inns to creating lifestyle hotels with fire pits and Michelin-starred restaurants?Today’s guest is a returning guest, Stephen Wendell, Co-Founder and CEO of Mountain Shore Properties. They explore the shift from select-service properties to luxury and lifestyle hotels, examining the business dynamics and guest experiences that differentiate these segments. Steven shares insights on building independent lifestyle hotels, dealing with construction challenges, financing, and the pivotal role of major brands and creative freedom. They also discuss the evolving demands of younger travelers and the potential for lifestyle hotels to serve as cultural hubs. The conversation touches on financing strategies, the impact of current economic conditions, and the balance between guest experience and profitability.Takeaways: The most successful hospitality projects prioritize unique, memorable experiences for guests, which can lead to long-term loyalty and word-of-mouth growth.Each project is a learning opportunity. Apply lessons from past mistakes to improve future outcomes and avoid repeating errors.Consider a mix of select service and lifestyle/boutique properties to balance stability with higher-reward opportunities.Affiliation with major brands can make financing easier and provide valuable marketing/distribution support, but weigh the costs and benefits carefully.The best hotels become hubs for both guests and locals. Create spaces and experiences that attract both groups.Younger travelers value experiences over points. Offer unique, local collaborations and experiences to attract and retain this demographic.Hospitality is a long-term business. Set expectations with investors and partners accordingly, and operate with a long-term mindset.Quote of the Show:“Some people quit in the messy middle. We’ve pushed through, and now we know what to do and how to do it.” - Stephen WendellLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-wendell-5417291a/ Website: https://mountainshoreproperties.com/ Shout Outs:1:18 - Philadelphia Eagles https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ 2:00 - Camptown https://mountainshoreproperties.com/project/camptown-leeds-ny/ 3:56 - Airbnb https://www.airbnb.com/ 4:14 - Hyatt https://www.hyatt.com/ 4:15 - Dream https://www.hyatt.com/dream-hotels 4:16 - The Standard https://www.hyatt.com/the-standard/en-US 4:17 - Bunkhouse https://www.hyatt.com/bunkhouse-hotels/en-US/explore 4:18 - Hilton https://www.hilton.com/en/ 4:19 - Graduate https://www.hilton.com/en/brands/graduate-hotels/ 4:22 - Nomad https://www.hilton.com/en/brands/nomad-hotels/ 4:23 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 5:09 - Courtyard https://courtyard.marriott.com/ 5:17 - Hotel Genevieve https://mountainshoreproperties.com/project/hotel-genevieve-louisville-ky/ 7:20 - Hampton Inn https://www.hilton.com/en/brands/hampton-by-hilton/ 13:00 - Gary Vaynerchuk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Vaynerchuk 13:50 - Steve Jobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs 13:52 - Bill Gates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates 13:53 - Jeff Bezos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos 14:49 - James Beard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Beard 17:18 - AC Hotels https://ac-hotels.marriott.com/ 18:07 - Independent Lodging Congress https://ilcongress.com/ 18:18 - Deutsche Bank https://www.db.com/ 18:20 - Bank of America https://www.bankofamerica.com/ 22:31 - Vanguard https://investor.vanguard.com/ 22:32 - John Bogle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Bogle 23:09 - JDV https://www.hyatt.com/jdv-by-hyatt/en-US/explore 24:08 - IHG https://www.ihg.com/hotels/us/en/reservation 24:12 - Vignette https://www.ihg.com/vignettecollection/hotels/us/en/reservation 25:29 - Waldorf Astoria https://www.hilton.com/en/brands/waldorf-astoria/ 34:40 - Ritz Carlton https://www.ritzcarlton.com/ 45:57 - Jerome Powell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Powell 52:26 - Paul Volcker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker 54:59 - Costa Susana https://costasusana.com/en/ 56:20 - Hotel Saint Cecilia https://www.bunkhousehotels.com/hotel-saint-cecilia 56:47 - Regent Hotels https://www.ihg.com/regent/hotels/us/en/reservation 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/po...
“Design is subjective, but quality is objective.”Today, Spencer Levine, President of RAL Companies and Affiliates, joins Dan to dive into hospitality development. Spencer shares insights from his extensive career in architecture and landscape development. The conversation covers the importance of delivering tangible and thoughtful hospitality experiences, the significance of strategic partnerships, and the crucial role of creative problem-solving in the development process. Spencer also delves into his experiences during the 2008 financial crisis and how it shaped his company's approach to handling distressed projects. Additionally, he reflects on lessons from his father and the impact of company culture on successful project execution.Takeaways: Exceptional service can overcome shortcomings in physical spaces. Focus on delivering care and responsiveness to guests and clients.Approach challenges by seeking solutions, not dwelling on problems. Be proactive and creative, especially when facing constraints.Invest in relationships and develop a strong network, both internally and externally. Know who to call when you need expertise beyond your own.Strive for authenticity in design and experience. Make spaces and services reflect the unique character of their location and purpose.Take personal responsibility for your work and encourage accountability within your team. Share knowledge and support each other to achieve common goals.No task is beneath you. Be ready to do whatever it takes to deliver a project, from high-level strategy to hands-on work.Make decisions with intention and commit to them. Don’t get stuck in indecision. Pivot if needed, but move forward with conviction.Quote of the Show:“Design is not necessarily just beautiful, it's making a decision and forging ahead with it.” - Spencer LevineLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-levine-665b1078/ Website: https://ralcompanies.com/ Shout Outs:0:45 - Mandarin Oriental Resorts and Residences https://ralcompanies.com/projects/mandarin-oriental/ 0:49 - Zero Irving https://ralcompanies.com/projects/14th-street/ 0:51 - Four Seasons Vail https://www.fourseasons.com/vail/ 0:54 - ULI New York https://newyork.uli.org/ 1:50 - Monty Python https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python 10:31 - Horst Schulze https://horstschulze.com/ 13:13 - Robert Levine https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-levine-65b60628/ 17:24 - Roan Steamboat https://www.steamboatsprings-realestate.com/roan/ 17:41 - The Madeline https://aubergeresorts.com/madeline/ 26:45 - Ironshore https://www.ironshorecayman.vip/ 28:22 - Hart Howerton https://www.harthowerton.com/ 28:32 - Meyer Davis https://www.meyerdavis.com/ 29:31 - Reda Amalou https://www.redaamalou.com/en/ 29:37 - Ocean House https://www.oceanhouseri.com/ 35:45 - Field of Dreams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_Dreams 46:38 - Vincent Cangelosi https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-cangelosi-4053a23/ 47:24 - Steve Higgins https://www.canoehospitality.com/ 50:48 - Young President’s Organization https://www.ypo.org/ 58:31 - Cornell University https://www.cornell.edu/ 59:10 - Harvard University https://www.harvard.edu/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
The secret to a hotel's success isn’t just great design; it's what guests don't see.Harzali Hashim, Complex Director of Engineering at Kyo-ya Hotels and Resorts in Honolulu, joins Dan to discuss sustainability engineering within the hospitality industry. They discuss Harzali's extensive 20-year career in hotel and resort engineering, focusing on the importance of maintenance, design, and sustainability in creating memorable guest experiences. They explore the operational challenges of managing historic properties, the significance of green engineering, and the collaborative efforts across the industry to uphold high standards. The episode also touches on Harzali's leadership within the Hawaii Lodging and Tourism Association's Engineers Advisory Council and his proactive approach in mentoring and fostering sustainability initiatives.Takeaways: Focus on creating memorable experiences for guests, not just through amenities but also through attentive service and a welcoming environment.Regularly maintain both visible and behind-the-scenes infrastructure to ensure long-term property value and guest satisfaction.Implement sustainable practices, such as energy and water conservation, and educate both staff and guests on their importance.Build strong relationships with all stakeholders: designers, engineers, housekeeping, and ownership to ensure successful projects and renovations.Be willing to rethink traditional processes and adapt quickly to changing circumstances for more efficient project delivery.Maintain honest and open communication with all project stakeholders to reduce misunderstandings and accelerate progress.Engage in community service and industry events to strengthen local ties and contribute positively beyond your organization.Quote of the Show:“Sustainability has been part of me for a while. Being here in Hawaii, embracing the local community means being sustainable.” - Harzali HashimLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harzali-hashim-b6901540/ Website: https://www.kyoyahotelsandresorts.com/ Shout Outs:0:53 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 1:15 - Sheraton Waikiki https://www.kyoyahotelsandresorts.com/sheraton-waikiki/ 1:19 - Diamond Head https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/dsp/parks/oahu/diamond-head-state-monument/ 1:31 - Moana Surfrider https://www.kyoyahotelsandresorts.com/moana-surfrider/ 2:56 - The Royal https://www.kyoyahotelsandresorts.com/the-royal-hawaiian/ 3:00 - The Palace https://www.kyoyahotelsandresorts.com/the-palace-hotel/ 6:48 - Halekulani https://www.halekulani.com/ 8:23 - John Staub https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-staub-a8486914/ 8:26 - Philpotts https://www.philpotts.net/ 10:55 - Starwood Hotels https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starwood_Hotels_and_Resorts 11:28 - Disney https://www.disney.com/ 23:23 - Engineers Advisory Council https://www.hawaiilodging.org/engineers-advisory-council.html 23:27 - Hawaii Lodging and Tourism Association https://www.hawaiilodging.org/ 27:48 - Eileen Madigan https://www.linkedin.com/in/eileenamadiganasid/ 27:49 - Las Vegas Sands Corp https://www.sands.com/ 31:44 - Princess Kaiulani https://www.kyoyahotelsandresorts.com/princess-kaiulani/ 44:55 - Green Business Program https://greenbusiness.hawaii.gov/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What does it take to manage 420 apartments and create a million memorable moments? On this episode, host Dan Ryan sits down with Sebastián Torres-Calderón, the CEO of Stay U-nique, an award-winning short-term rental company in Spain. Sebastián shares his journey from customer journey intern to CEO and reveals how implementing the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) helped his company not only survive the chaos of COVID but quadruple in size. The conversation dives deep into how Stay U-nique uses data and technology to create a frictionless guest experience, the challenges of a rapidly evolving industry, and the political headwinds facing the short-term rental market. Sebastián offers a unique perspective on the debate between prohibition and regulation and provides a powerful case for why collaboration between the private and public sectors is the key to solving housing inventory issues.Takeaways: Track key metrics (KPIs) across all departments, not just leadership, to identify and address recurring issues. Use data to drive improvements in guest experience, operations, and communication.Use frameworks such as the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) to set clear goals, break them into manageable projects (“rocks”), and review progress regularly. Involve the entire team in the process for maximum impact.Don’t be afraid to make mistakes, learn, and adapt. Regularly test new approaches, measure their impact, and iterate quickly. Use technology to streamline operations (e.g., remote locks, cleaning apps) and enhance the guest experience, but ensure it remains personal and responsive.Success takes time and consistent effort. Focus on long-term growth rather than immediate results.Empower every team member with ownership of projects and clear goals to drive company-wide improvement.Quote of the Show:“To take that time and make it something that they will remember forever, and get to do that every day, that's amazing.” - Sebastián Torres-CalderónLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebasti%C3%A1n-torres-calderon-serkovic-310044121/ Website: https://www.stay-u-nique.com/en/ Shout Outs:0:53 - World Travel Awards https://www.worldtravelawards.com/ 10:46 - EOS https://www.eosworldwide.com/ 12:02 - Airbnb https://www.airbnb.com/ 13:43 - Traction https://amzn.to/4fEGOTZ 13:43 - Gino Wickman https://www.ginowickman.com/ 14:53 - Mitcham Rentals https://www.mitchamgrouprentals.com/ 16:23 - Enrique Alcántara https://www.linkedin.com/in/enrique-alc%C3%A1ntara-b9623b/ 24:28 - What the Heck is EOS? https://amzn.to/4fGGXGC 40:49 - Sonder https://www.sonder.com/ 40:56 - Marriott https://www.marriott.com/default.mi 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What does it mean to develop a host mindset?Today, Dan dives into the transformative principles of the 'host mindset' with Steve Fortunato, founder of roomforty and the Fig House. Steve shares his journey from a restaurateur and caterer to becoming an influential leadership facilitator, emphasizing the importance of making others feel valued. The conversation highlights the impact of hospitality in business, practical strategies to foster engagement, and the significance of personal growth and generosity-driven cultures. This episode is a deep exploration of how hospitality principles can enhance both personal and professional interactions, creating a kinder and collaborative environment.Takeaways: Approach every interaction, whether with clients, colleagues, or customers, with the intention to make others feel valued and cared for.Define a small set of practical, non-aspirational values that are deeply linked to your mission and vision. Integrate them into hiring, training, and daily operations.Seek out coaches, mentors, or peer groups who challenge you and help you grow. Stay open to learning and feedback.Give value first, without expecting immediate returns. Trust that value will come back to you through the virtuous cycle of generosity.Apply hospitality beyond the industry. Use these principles in any field or relationship.Even in gig-based or temporary workforces, make people feel important and included to inspire better performance and loyalty.Recognize that mastery is a journey, not a destination. Stay humble, coachable, and always strive to be better.Quote of the Show:“ I don't believe hospitality is an industry. I believe it's a virtue.” - Steve FortunatoLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-fortunato-3b990516/ Website: https://stevefortunato.com/ Book Link: https://amzn.to/45zaddw Shout Outs:0:38 - The Fig House https://www.fighousela.com/ 5:48 - Patina Group https://www.patinagroup.com/ 6:01 - Wolfgang Puck Catering https://wolfgangpuckcatering.com/ 14:49 - Bill Clinton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton 14:53 - Bob Hope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hope 24:39 - John F Kennedy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy 43:44 - Toyota https://www.toyota.com/ 57:28 - DC Structures https://dcstructures.com/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
What is the power of providing unique experiences?Today, Dan chats with the Co-Founders of Reset Hotels, Ben Uyeda and Adam Wininger, about their unique hotel venture designed for the next generation of conscious travelers. Ben and Adam share insights from their journey in hospitality, emphasizing the importance of midweek group bookings for corporate and wellness retreats, and creating meaningful, immersive experiences in the vast, open spaces of Joshua Tree. The conversation explores the concept of 'reset' in hospitality, the value of modular construction in remote areas, and future visions including art installations, unique retreats, and potentially an interplanetary hotel. Join the conversation as they discuss how thoughtful design and unique experiences can transform simple stays into unforgettable journeys.Takeaways:Excellence in hospitality (and any field) comes from attention to detail and continuous improvement—strive to perfect the small things, not just the big vision.Make sure you’re intentional about the guest experience. Always consider how you want people to feel during and after their experience with you, whether in hospitality, business, or daily life.Prioritize midweek group and retreat bookings. They are a key driver of business success.Be willing to evolve your ideas and operations as you learn from real-world experience. The best concepts often emerge from adapting to changing circumstances.Move beyond generic spaces—offer unique, authentic moments (like outdoor activities, art installations, or surprise elements) that guests will remember and share.Design experiences that encourage genuine interaction, such as group hikes, yoga at sunset, or shared reading materials.Make it easy to deliver “magical” experiences by building thoughtful, repeatable systems (e.g., providing thank you cards and mailing them for guests).Quote of the Show: ”I've always thought of hospitality as the craft of the welcome.” - Ben Uyeda“ We fully intend to do all that. Just creating little moments of surprise for people out in the desert.” - Adam WiningerLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-uyeda-6927215/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-w1818654323333/ Website: https://www.stayreset.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reset.hotel/ Shout Outs:1:16 - Entrepreneurs Organization https://eonetwork.org/ 2:48 - HD Vegas https://hdexpo.hospitalitydesign.com/ 8:24 - U2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U2 8:28 - Meadowlands Arena https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadowlands_Arena 9:32 - Hype Beast https://hypebeast.com/ 19:09 - Burning Man https://burningman.org/ 24:29 - W Hotels https://w-hotels.marriott.com/ 24:35 - SoulCycle https://www.soul-cycle.com/ 28:06 - Rick Rubin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin 29:30 - Jesse Itzler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Itzler 32:21 - Will Guidara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Guidara 33:24 - NoMad Library https://nomadlasvegas.mgmresorts.com/en/restaurants/nomad-library.html 35:27 - Eleven Madison Park https://www.elevenmadisonpark.com/ 38:22 - Storm King https://welcome.stormking.org/ 43:23 - Goose https://www.goosetheband.com/ 46:00 - Mass MoCA https://massmoca.org/ 46:26 - Pappy and Harriet’s https://pappyandharriets.com/ 48:12 - Post Ranch Inn https://postranchinn.com/ 48:21 - Chateau Marmont https://www.chateaumarmont.com/ 55:29 - YPO https://www.ypo.org/ 🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/























