The long awaited train episode (3.13, “This is A Dark Ride”) is here, and so are our besties, Ellis, KC, and Dylan! We mention sanism, discuss bisexuality, and revisit Cameron’s cast for Deepa’s PLL birthday party. We reminisce about some of our past Halloween costumes and once again remember that Pastor Ted is a parent. Post-feminism is bad, Spencer! We massively fail at coming up with catchy public health slogans, but we make up for it with one about police abolition instead. It’s a good th...
Today we take on the mighty task of discussing three episodes: 3.10, “What Lies Beneath”, 3.11, “Single Fright Female”, and 3.12, “The Lady Killer”. The vibes between Aria and Ezra are not successfully tense, just sad and weird and boring (per usual). We don’t have interesting things to say about Nate, we just reiterate the anti-Blackness of the plotline. Ali’s bullying is SOOO gay, but we are pro-Paige in these episodes for her suffering, maturity, and baby butch moments. Deepa recounts our ...
In this episode we discuss 3.08, “Stolen Kisses”, and 3.09, “The Kahn Game”, with recurring guest, Dylan! Dylan surprises us with musical analysis, we report on Toby wolf watch, and Cameron makes us play another ridiculous PLL game. We apologize for talking so much about Ezra and his boring problems. Deepa discusses Deepa's internalized racism fanfiction, and Dylan pulls a tarot card to answer a very important question. Maybe Meredith could just move out of Rosewood? Or commute to work? We de...
Hi friends! In today’s pod we discuss episodes 3.06, “Remains of the A”, and 3.07, “Crazy”. Season three remains a struggle as the show demonstrates its typical ableism, anti-Blackness, and transphobia. We attempt to reckon with our past as Jason apologists. This episode introduces us to Charlotte and Ken, and the Liars continue to be terrible at placing memorabilia in Ali’s grave. We ponder if the Zack storyline is a deflection from all the other abusers in this show. Deepa thinks about Radl...
We are joined by special guest Leslie to talk about 3.04, “Birds of a Feather”, and 3.05, “That Girl Is Poison”! We discuss unrealistically fast party preparation, how horrible and racist the Nate storyline is, and whether the wine moms should just date each other (yes). Leslie educates us on the past and present of psychiatric incarceration in Pennsylvania, which is full of infuriating facts, and we struggle to figure out how Mona got into Radley in the first place. Cameron tries to se...
Today we cover episodes 3.02, “Blood is the New Black”, and 3.03, “Kingdom of the Blind”. No one will be surprised but it’s just more ableism! We hate everyone! Wren has daddy issues, Hanna is incredibly violent, Lucas is a bad boy now, Aria loves the cops, and, unfortunately, Ezra still exists. Thank god for Melissa and Meredith’s highjinks to bring some levity to these episodes! Our bar for Emily's fashion is so low, and also, Mona should sing more. READ THE REST OF THE SHOW NOTES HER...
DFTC3! Today we cover the season three premiere, “It Happened”. We start with some exciting offseason updates and then get to our framework around psychiatric abolition, which is necessary as this season is sooooo Radley focused. We hate a lot of things in this episode and are just so sad for Emily. In DFTC tradition we speculate about so many things we can’t remember: Who dug up Bethany’s body? Did Melissa kill Garrett? And has Spencer been too busy this summer to have sex? We realize we mig...
It's season finale time again! We had an impromptu in-person recording to cover 2.24, ”If These Dolls Could Talk”, and 2.25, “UnmAsked”, where we got things we’ve been waiting for all season like Lost Woods Resort; Mona and Caleb kissing for... reasons; the A reveal; and, of course, DOLL HOSPITAL. We are confused about many different plot points, whether Mona actually caused the Liars to take Hanna away from her, and how peanut butter flavor could be confused for toffee. Turns out one of the ...
Today we are joined by special guest peach to discuss episodes 2.22, “Father Knows Best”, and 2.23, “Eye of the Beholder”! We discuss copaganda and the military, anxiety-inducing TV, what true trust and safety look like, solidarity to shoplifters and looters, and how Ali would NEVER ride the bus. peach takes us for a walk, Deepa says the word fish, and Cameron thinks her friendship with Deepa is unfortunate. All our oppressive systems must be destroyed! This episode was recorded in January wh...
We're back, sorry for another unexpected break in updating! Today we cover Episodes 2.20, “CTRL A” and 2.21, “Breaking the Code”. We talk about how hard Mona is working, how chaotic and horny Peter is, and how Caleb is the only one who seems to know his rights. We are once again so sad and mad about Maya's fate, the show’s anti-Blackness, more trauma for queer characters, and the show pushing the Paige agenda. Important questions: where is Peter's office gun? Who kills Jessica DiLaurentis? An...
Today we cover episodes 2.18, “A Kiss Before Lying”, and 2.19, “The Naked Truth”. We talked about lying (surprise!), Noel Kahn’s thesis on gender, Hollis College trying to colonize New Orleans, and the Jason reveal we’ve been waiting for. We once again get very sad and mad about Maya’s storyline. In this house, we believe that bees are not animals, glaciers melt faster now, and MMA is gay. Content notes: discussion of Lolita from 40:30 to 57:35, which includes discussions of rape of a c...
In today’s pod, we cover episodes 2.16, “Let the Water Hold me Down”, and 2.17, “The Blond Leading the Blind”. We discuss yet more fucked up ableism towards Jenna, Mona’s cashmere blend sweater sets, Emily misunderstanding beards, and worms in takeout boxes. Cameron might be getting paid by Big Chickpea, and Deepa read a play. Have we earned doll hospital yet? Theme song by Ashok R. Chandran. You can also read the episode transcript. Chickpeas Oh My Gosh: Cameron’s can’t wait to try the...
We start with a guest spot by pop culture analyst Stitch of Stitch’s Media Mix and the podcast Pages & Prejudice! Then we discuss episodes 2.14, “Through Many Dangers, Toils, and Snares”, and 2.15, “A Hot Piece of A”. Our show notes are too long for a longer summary and things we discuss unrelated to PLL, oops! Content notes: mentions of rape & sexual assault, incest, and adult/minor abuse Also: We recorded this weeks ago, but fuck America and fuck white supremacy. Theme s...
We’re back again, bitches! Episodes 2.12 (“Over My Dead Body”) and 2.13 (“The First Secret”) are wildly different and we treat them as such. The first has it all: creepy dolls! Ali visitation! Stopping weddings! Answers to lingering questions! But Emily’s appropriative Halloween costume in the second episode makes us sad and mad, and Deepa provides context with infuriating facts. We hope you accept a longer episode as an apology for our absence. Our awesome theme song is composed by Ashok R...
This week we discuss episodes 2.10, “Touched By an ‘A’-ngel” and 2.11, “I Must Confess”. Our best friend Heather Hogan has a hot new job! We chat about Mona’s meticulousness, Maya’s return, bad bobbleheads that relate to your profession, and whether Garrett killed Ian. We share PLL entries from our wine notebook, Deepa sees a dolphin, and Cameron does ageism. Our awesome theme song is composed by Ashok R. Chandran! You can find his other work at his website. Episode Transcript: Read it on...
Dylan is back (yay!) and coincidentally so is mouse man (boo) for our discussions of episodes 2.08, “Save the Date”, and 2.09, “Picture This”. We talk about ableism, mustard, staring at your friends’ lips, and which Liars have the most medically invasive stuff happen to them. We fill Dylan in on the wild shit that happens in the final season of the show, and Cameron tries to convince Dylan that PLL has ginger representation. Did you hear that Emily has a hole in her stomach? Our awesome them...
We cover episodes 2.06, “Never Letting Go”, and 2.07, “Surface Tension”. This episode not only introduces Jessica DiLaurentis, but also gives us our first hint of Wine Moms! We discuss lack of butch representation, social constructions of criminality, and our dream guests on the podcast. Peter Hastings is probably so mad because his secret son is putting up boundaries. Our awesome theme song is composed by Ashok R. Chandran! You can find his other work at his website. Transcript: Read i...
In this episode we cover 2.04, “Blind Dates”, and 2.05, “The Devil You Know”. We start with the most dramatic shit and then work our way through the rest. We discuss Mona’s jealousy and time management skills, Melissa’s resentment, and how the Rosewood timewarp impacts therapy modalities. Deepa recounts the one time Deepa got trapped in a graveyard and we wonder if the DiLaurentis house is haunted. Our awesome theme song is composed by Ashok R. Chandran! You can find his other work at his w...
This week, we cover 2.02, “The Goodbye Look”, and 2.03, “My Name is Trouble”! We discuss apologies, ableism, Ali flashbacks, whether there’s anyone buried in the DiLaurentis yard yet, and of course, the most chaotic characters. We use too many phrases from cooking shows, and Cameron sings a Deepa not-so-original song for us. Our awesome theme song is composed by Ashok R. Chandran! You can find his other work at his website. Episode Transcript: Read it on Buzzsprout! Chickpeas Oh ...
We’re back, bitches! Today we cover episode 2.01 “It’s Alive”. We discuss women’s sports films in India, therapist Anne, Pretty Little Liars: Summer School, and the possibility that there are many people that punch Ezra in the face that we don’t know about. Deepa reflects on our first season. Cameron doesn't remember anything. We have an amazing theme song now, composed by Deepa’s cousin Ashok R. Chandran!!! You can find his other work at his website. Episode Transcript: Read it o...