Double Jeopardy - The Law and Politics Podcast

Double Jeopardy - the law and politics podcast with Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen. (Podfollow RSS - 9ba0e244251f371904f382772fec01a5ee161a6)

Rape Trials in Peril and the Sentencing of Huw Edwards

In this latest episode of Double Jeopardy, Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen are joined by Sarah Vine, a KC at Doughty Street Chambers, to discuss the sensitive and difficult issue of the way in which trials of rape and other serious sexual offences are conducted.    The trio discuss the complexities surrounding trials of sexual offences, particularly focusing on the special measures introduced to support vulnerable witnesses. They explore the implications of these measures, including Section 28 evidence, and the unintended consequences that have arisen, such as lower conviction rates.    The conversation closes with a discussion on the recent sentencing of Huw Edwards, examining the principles applied by the judge, and the public response. Was it right not to send him straight to prison? Be sure to follow us on X: https://x.com/doubjeopardypod Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

09-18
37:25

Tommy Robinson's Tax Returns & Grenfell Delays

In this latest episode of Double Jeopardy, Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen are joined by Dan Neidle, Founder of Tax Policy Associates, to explore the finances of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-right street agitator and self-styled journalist who calls himself Tommy Robinson. The trio explore how Yaxley-Lennon has monetised his presence on the internet through ‘donations’ and ‘gifts’ from his followers, which are then passed through multiple off-the-shelf companies. Ken, Tim and Dan investigate the tax implications of these ‘donations’, and the potential tax liabilities that Yaxley-Lennon may face now that HMRC has reportedly opened an investigation into him. To close the episode, Ken & Tim also touch on the Grenfell Inquiry Report and the glacial pace of criminal investigations in the UK justice system, highlighting the inefficiencies in the UK's investigative and legal processes as well as the need for major investment in the system. Be sure to follow us on X / Twitter: https://x.com/doubjeopardypod Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

09-11
31:08

Hate, Bigotry and Bleaching the Internet

Hidden under the cloak of online anonymity, individuals in the UK have been charged and convicted of inciting and encouraging criminal behaviour without actively getting involved themselves.    Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen analyse the debate triggered in the wake of the August 2024 riots across the UK; should we and how do we regulate the internet more closely without infringing the fundamental right to freedom of expression? Ken and Tim debate the differences between the US and European approaches to regulating the internet, with a focus on Section 230 of the US Federal Communications Act, recent decisions of the US Supreme Court and the EU Digital Services Act which is designed to prevent illegal and harmful activities online and the spread of disinformation. They also discuss the Online Safety Act 2023 and the challenge of balancing freedom of speech with the need to combat harmful content online.    Follow us on X/Twitter: https://x.com/doubjeopardypod  Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

09-03
34:51

Lucy Letby Part 2: The Response

The case of Lucy Letby is one of the most controversial cases in British legal history. As is well known, the neonatal nurse is currently serving 15 whole-life sentences for the murder of seven infants and the attempted murder of eight others. Her application for leave to appeal her convictions returned at her first trial was firmly rejected by the Court of Appeal on 2nd July 2024 as unarguable.    In this episode of Double Jeopardy, Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen respond to comments and criticisms received after discussing the Lucy Letby case in the most recent episode ‘Lucy Letby: The Shadow of a Doubt?"   Ken and Tim respond to listeners addressing concerns about the fairness of the trial process and the credibility of the Court of Appeal process. They also discuss the recent admission by the Crown Prosecution Service that certain evidence was mislabeled at the original trial and whether this affects the conclusion that Lucy Letby’s convictions are safe. They explore the possibility of reopening the appeal and the potential for a different approach to reviewing scientific evidence before the Court of Appeal.    Follow us on X/Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/doubjeopardypod⁠ Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

08-27
28:41

Lucy Letby: The Shadow of a Doubt?

The case of Lucy Letby generated shock, revulsion and bewilderment, casting a long shadow over the trust that we place in those who care for the most vulnerable.  In the latest episode of Double Jeopardy, Ken and Tim discuss one of the most controversial cases in British legal history—the conviction of Lucy Letby, the neonatal nurse sentenced to 15 whole-life sentences for the murder of seven infants and the attempted murder of eight others. Ken and Tim explore the widespread media coverage and the intense public reaction to Letby’s case, including the growing number of conspiracy theories that have emerged on the internet as well as more serious articles in reputable media outlets. They critically examine the arguments put forth by those questioning her conviction and discuss the Court of Appeal's comprehensive rejection of her application for leave to appeal and the refusal to admit fresh expert evidence. They emphasise that any discussion about a miscarriage of justice must start with an understanding of the basis for the Court of Appeal’s rejection of Lucy Letby’s appeal. The episode also touches on the upcoming public inquiry to be Chaired by Lady Justice Thirlwall (which will investigate events at the Countess of Chester hospital and whether the management structure at the hospital contributed to the failure to protect babies from Letby’s actions) and whether the public inquiry has the potential to generate new evidence that may form the basis for a second appeal following a referral by the Criminal Cases Review Commission. Tim and Ken aim to shed light on the complexity of the case and are critical of those who have questioned Letby’s guilt without understanding the details of the case and the dynamics of a criminal trial. They stress the importance of basing any claims of a miscarriage of justice on a thorough understanding of the evidence, the legal processes involved and especially the details of the 58 page Judgment of the Court of Appeal handed down on 2nd July 2024.   Follow us on X/Twitter: https://x.com/doubjeopardypod Follow us on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

08-16
43:45

Riots: The Full Force of the Law?

“UK riots shops boarded up as England braces for rioting. Thousands of officers on standby as police plan for up to 100 disturbances and 30 counter protests’ In this episode of Double Jeopardy Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen sit down to discuss the planned riots in response to the tragic Southport incident looking at how Keir Starmer is responding, the role of the courts and the suggestion we need to use anti-terrorism laws to deal with the rioters. Ken and Tim also touch on the 2011 riots which spread from a protest about the shooting of Mark Duggan by police in Tottenham where 2,158 people were convicted of involvement in the 2011 riots, leading to prison sentences totalling more than 1,800 years. Follow us on X: https://x.com/doubjeopardypod Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

08-08
24:36

Sarah Lunnon: Just Stop Protesting?

After spending the best part of 15 years in party politics, Sarah Lunnon now believes that responding to the climate emergency needs a new democracy, a revolution rather than reform. In this episode of Double Jeopardy, Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen are joined by Sarah Lunnon, former Green Party Councillor and Co-founder of Just Stop Oil, to discuss the lengthy sentences recently handed down on 5 Just Stop Oil activists for their actions in attempting to create gridlock in London and the South of England in November 2022 and the impact these sentences may have on future protests. They also debate the failure of the government to take effective action on climate change and the role of civil disobedience in driving change.   The discussion raises questions about the legitimacy and effectiveness of harsh punishment and whether the UK is out of step with other European countries in terms of sentencing climate protesters. Follow us on X: https://x.com/doubjeopardypod Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/double-jeopardy-podcast/

08-01
28:16

Fiona Rutherford: Justice into the Future

The justice system in the UK has faced many challenges over the past 14 years, most notably funding cuts and a lack of resources. In this episode of Double Jeopardy, Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen are joined by Fiona Rutherford the Chief Executive of JUSTICE to discuss the state of the justice system in the UK. They reflect on the past 14 years, discussing what has gone right, what has gone wrong and what to expect in the future. They cover topics such as the motivations for becoming a lawyer, the challenges of policy-making, the impact of austerity on the justice system and the recent bills announced in the King's speech.  Fiona emphasises the need for outcome-focused policies that address the root causes of crime, such as housing, health, and education, the conversation concludes with Fiona's top 5 legislative priorities including: improving the criminal justice system, setting outcome-focused goals across departments and ensuring better data collection.

07-24
35:37

Starmer’s First Move - Ending Our Addiction to Prison?

Mark Fairhurst, the National Chairman of the Prison Officers Association, returns to Double Jeopardy to further discuss the prison crisis, now a focal point in the first week of the new Labour government. Guided by hosts Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen, the conversation addresses the emergency measures announced by the new Lord Chancellor, Shabana Mahmood, aimed at addressing critical prison overcrowding.   Amongst discussing historical context and years of inaction, the podcast also talks about the broader systemic changes needed, including probation service, mental health support and the role of the judiciary in sentencing reform.    Ken and Tim also highlight the appointment of James Timpson as the new Prisons Minister and discuss his views on prison reform as well as the potential changes for the future of penal policy.

07-15
28:40

David Gauke: Conservative Reckoning, Labour Change?

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen are joined by David Gauke, Former Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice. In 2019 he resigned, saying he could no longer serve under Boris Johnson and risk a no-deal Brexit. After expulsion from the Conservative party, he said ‘at last I have something in common with Domonic Cummings.’ It was a poignant remark. There are plenty more of these in this episode as Ken and Tim look back on the role of the ‘Gaukeward Squad’, the group of Tory rebels who voted against the government on the issue of Brexit, in shaping British politics today. Ken and Tim discuss David’s experiences as a Conservative MP during truly turbulent times. The explusion of Gauke and rebel Tories had wide-reaching implications, the effects of which we are still experiencing. How does he view the current state of British politics now? What reform is needed in the prison system, and is Labour’s manifesto in this area enough to separate them from the Conservatives?

06-26
52:09

Justice Under Labour?

In this episode, of Double Jeopardy hosts Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen discuss the various aspects of Labour Party's manifesto which was launched on the 13th June 2024 ahead of the Election which is taking place on the 4th July 2024. This episode looks at the intricacies and implications of the proposed law and order policies. The manifesto, which is turning heads and sparking discussions nationwide, shows an ambitious plan to “take back our streets”, with substantial pledges for enhancing neighbourhood policing and clamping down hard on crime and antisocial behaviour as well as the promise to “tackle violence against women and girls”. Tune in for Tim & Ken’s views on this manifesto and the potential challenges of these plans.

06-14
28:07

Mark Fairhurst: Britain’s Prison Shame

In this episode of Double Jeopardy Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen talk to Mark Fairhurst, National Chairman of the Prison Officers Association, about the long standing and apparently never ending crisis afflicting the UK prison system. This episode presents an in-depth discussion on the overcrowding epidemic and its root causes including the tabloid driven addiction to ever longer sentences and the failure of all Governments to develop and promote community based alternatives to custody.  The result is that the UK has the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in Western Europe and a disastrous record of re-offending. From overcrowding to under-resourced prisons, private versus public prisons, the genuine threat of violent riots over the summer, the role of the Chief Inspectorate of Prisons, restoring the right to strike to prison officers and sentencing policy, the trio discuss them all with a central theme being the need to reimagine the prison service to prioritise rehabilitation and the reintegration of offenders into society. They also cover issues related to funding and resource allocation within the UK's criminal justice system and the constant struggle for resources which has led to staff shortages, reduced training opportunities, and minimal investment in infrastructure. Finally Ken, Tim & Mark look at the potential path to reform, and strategies that can be vital to the much-needed change such as reshaping sentencing policies, enhancing rehabilitation programs, and investing in community-based alternatives to imprisonment.

06-05
48:11

Angus McCullough KC: The Undermining of Secret Justice

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen welcome back Angus McCullough KC, who has extensive experience in public and private law and who was the most experienced Special Advocate until his decision to step down in October 2023 in protest at the Government's failure to implement urgent changes to the system of secret justice (as recommended in December 2022 by the former High Court Judge Sir Duncan Ouseley). This episode is dedicated to discussing the controversy surrounding the Closed Material Procedure (CMP) introduced by the Justice and Security Act 2013. The debate this law sparked around the management of sensitive information during civil proceedings and the balance between national security and fairness/openness is once again highly topical.  Angus's decision to refuse to take on any new closed material cases has now been followed 8 months later by some 25 other Special Advocates (including 16 KCs), a decision which leaves the entire system for litigating national security cases in crisis. Unless and until this specialist cohort of barristers are willing to accept new cases, the system will grind to a halt. Ken, Tim and Angus discuss the future of CMP’s, Sir Duncan Ouseley’s independent review, the underfunded justice system, and Labour's depressing response to the prisons crisis as reflected in Keir Starmer's stance in PMQs and Shabana Mahmood's public commitment to building more prisons rather than ending the UK's addiction to imprisonment.

05-22
34:29

Jessica Simor KC: Judicial Activism in the Age of Global Warming

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen speak to Jessica Simor KC, an acclaimed specialist in public and regulatory law, EU law, competition law and human rights law.    The episode discusses the issue of whether litigation, whether before the European Court of Human Rights or domestic courts can be effective in addressing the challenge presented by climate change. They highlight two landmark cases in which Jessica Simor acted - one against the Swiss government and one against the UK government. The Swiss case saw a group of elderly Swiss women, bringing the case that they suffered personal health issues caused by heatwaves, and used litigation to hold their government accountable for climate change.    Tim and Ken further explore the UK case in the High Court in London recently which was brought by Friends of the Earth, Client Earth and the Good Law Project. Mr Justice Sheldon found the government was found to be falling short in meeting its obligations under the Climate Change Act 2008. The judicial review judgement held that the government had breached its duty under the Climate Change Act 2008 to adopt policies and proposals to enable legally binding carbon reduction targets to be met. Both cases marked a significant victory for climate activists.   A great episode around the urgency of combating climate change, the pressure on national governments for climate action and the influence of the Paris agreement on court decisions.

05-14
40:54

Jonathan Jones KC: Will the Rwanda Bill Work?

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen react to the passage of the ‘Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration) Act 2024' with Jonathan Jones KC, former Head of the Government Legal Department and Senior Consultant in Public and Constitutional Law at Linklaters.

04-30
30:58

Episode 53: Nick Ephgrave - Meet the New Director

In his first broadcast interview, Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen discuss fraud, whistleblowers and disclosure with new Director of the Serious Fraud Office, Nick Ephgrave QPM.

04-23
52:03

Episode 52: John Bowers KC - The Power of Corruption

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen discuss Boris Johnson and the degradation of the British State with author of ‘Downward Spiral’, John Bowers KC.

04-10
43:33

Episode 51: Hannah Quirk - The Problem with Criminal Justice

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen discuss the need for a Royal Commission into Criminal Justice with Editor of the Criminal Law Review, Dr Hannah Quirk

03-27
44:18

Episode 50: Jo Phoenix - Gender and the Ducking Stool

Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen discuss cancellation and the politics of gender with criminologist Professor Jo Phoenix.

03-07
44:21

Episode 49: Secrecy in the Family Courts

Ken and Tim discuss growing calls for more openness in the family court system with Chair of the Transparency Project, Lucy Reed KC.

02-16
38:19

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