Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with our most THEORY PACKED EPISODE YET! Get ready for wild maas-verse connections, intense deep-dives, and mind-bending, universe-defining theories as we dive deep into Rhys's family.**ACOTAR SPOILERS**Are Rhys’s Mother and Sister Really Dead?We start with the deaths of Rhys’s mother and sister. What do we know? Tamlin was there. What don’t we know? Everything else. Look, all we’re saying is that Feyre never actually saw their wings in the study, and big dummy Tam Tam sure is good at shifting people. Are Rhys’s mother and sister really dead, or did Tamlin somehow save them? And if he did save them, why does he still seem so guilt-ridden?Why Would Rhys’s Mother Give the Weaver the Ring?Why did Rhys’s mother leave her wedding ring with the weaver? And why does Feyre seem to hear the ring speak to her? Seems pretty unusual for an Illyrian woman to be able to face down a death god and live to tell the tale. What in the Cauldron’s name is going on here?How did Rhys’s mother seem to know so much about Feyre? We round out our ACOTAR section with a parting question about Rhys’s mother - how did she know Feyre’s dress size? (Kidding - kind of!) She seems to have known a lot about Rhys’s future mate. Was she actually seeing the future, or did she just get lucky? Or did it have something to do with all those herbs she ingested to stop her period?***SPOILERS FOR ACOTAR, THRONE OF GLASS, CRESCENT CITY***Are Rhys’s Mother and Sister Really Dead?(Take 2)Then we gear up for our biggest Maas-verse section yet with some truly huge, universe-defining, game-changing theories. We start by revisiting our theories on Rhys’s mothers and sister’s death, this time with Ruhn Danaan involved. Could Ruhn’s mom be Rhys’s sister? Abby isn’t convinced, but Ronnie makes some compelling arguments involving wyrdmarks, shifting, and glamouring. We know that Tamlin can do the last two - is it possible he knows about the wyrdmarks, too? Why does Feyre’s wedding ring have a six pointed star on it?Why does this ring basically have a map of Lunathion on it? Could the ring have originally belonged to Silene? Or, does this star connect her to Hypaxia, who used a six-pointed star to (attempt to) summon the dead? Was Rhys's mom a witch?Is Rhys Starborn? Then we get into the REALLY REALLY BIG THEORIES. Is Rhys starborn? Yes, 100%, and also there’s NO SUCH THING AS STARBORN. IT’S JUST AN ASTERI BLOODLINE. WE KNOW. GAME-CHANGING. MADNESS. Unfortunately, you’ll have to listen to the episode to find out the full details, but we’re 99% on this one guys. Is Rhys Valg?And finally, the other really big questions. IS RHYS VALG? Also yes. But that’s because we think Valg and Asteri might be the same thing. Or maybe he’s a Prince of Hel. Or maybe the Valg are Princes of Hel. There’s a lot of conflicting evidence! We round it out with some wild pre-cog corner theories on the wyrd and the void and finish up as per usual with what we're reading. Happy listening!Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!Time Stamps:00:00 Intro 02:53 Our Most Theory - Packed Episode Yet04:45 ACOTAR Deep Dive07:28 Announcements - Be nice on socials please!12:27 Rhys's Family Tree and Background17:27 What really happened to Rhys's Mother and Sister?26:37 Why did Rhys's Mother give the Weaver her Ring?41:11 How did Rhys's Mother seem to know so much about Feyre?45:08 MAASVERSE Section47:38 Are Rhys's Mother and Sister really dead? Maasverse Edition50:48 Is Ruhn's mom Rhys's sister?57:02 The Star on Feyre's Wedding Ring01:03:49 Is Rhys Starborn?01:20:35 Is Rhys Valg?01:36:26 Precog: Rhys's Connection to the Weaver01:40:12 Precog: The Void is gonna be mega-important (and there might still be Valg spiders in Prythian)
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie dive DEEP into the worst redhead in Prythian - Amarantha! Get ready for wild theories, mass-verse connections, and our most mind-bending episode yet as we unravel the mysteries behind Under the Mountain's cruel queen.We start with the bizarre story of Clythia and Jurian that simply does not make sense. How could a Fae loyalist who hates humans fall madly in love with a human general? Why did she love him with an “unrelenting madness”? Is there more to this story than what we’ve been told so far?Then we get to the good stuff - why did both Amarantha and Rhysand want to unleash Tamlin's rage? Does Tamlin have some kind of magical "kill switch" that makes him unstoppable once triggered? Was she really working for the King of Hybern, or did she have her own agenda? And what powers did she have, really?Our mass-verse section gets wild as we connect the dots between Amarantha and potential Valg connections. Could she be a Stygian spider like Cyrene from Throne of Glass? We analyze her black eyes, her fingernail that carved out Lucian's eye, and that mysterious spell book she stole from the King of Hybern. Why does she need to rely so heavily on spells when other villains have innate power? And why did she replace the High Lord’s hearts with stones? Was she getting them ready to be possessed by Valg?We round it out with the puzzling question of why Amarantha's sigil is a sleeping dragon when there are no dragons in Prythian. From glass mountains in Throne of Glass to Ariadne in Crescent City, we follow the dragon breadcrumbs across the mass-verse and wonder if this connects to the library in Adarlan or something far more sinister.Spoilers for the entire ACOTAR series, Throne of Glass, and Crescent CityFollow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!Time Stamps:Maasverse: Maasverse: Maasverse:
Abby and Ronnie are back this week with a deep dive into Feyre's Trials under the mountain in Sarah J. Maas's A Court of Thorns and Roses! We start with some lighthearted banter about singing abilities, hair growth supplements, and our embarrassing moments of mixing fantasy with reality (no, that guy with the blonde hair bun is not actually Tamlin, and no, that bleeding person is not a Venin). Our theories start off strong when we ponder why Amarantha seemed to recognized Feyre's name. Ronnie suggests "Feyre" might mean "liar" in ancient Fae, while Abby proposes a wild theory connecting Feyre to an ancient Fae warrior mentioned by the Bone Carver who imprisoned Striga and Koschei. Then we dive into Feyre's three trials, examining how each one flips classic tropes on their head. The labyrinth trial tests Feyre's hunting abilities but requires her intelligence rather than brute strength. We explore how Amarantha and Feyre represent two very different types of hunters - one collecting trophies, the other using clever traps to survive. We notice that Rhysand is the only one who refers to Feyre as "her" while everyone else calls her "it" - and he's the only one who bets on her winning!For the second trial, we question why Amarantha seems obsessed with testing Feyre's literacy when she likely knew Feyre couldn't read. Was this trial designed to be impossible? Why was Lucien involved? Was this more about torturing Tamlin than testing Feyre? And why did Rhysand make Feyre's hand burn instead of just telling her the answer telepathically? So many questions!Our breakdown of the third trial gets wild as we analyze Feyre killing two Fae to save Tamlin. We discuss the Attor’s transformation into Tamlin, wondering if that was Amarantha's magic or if she forces Tamlin to shift the Attor into himself? We explore how this trial tested both how far Feyre was willing to go for Tamlin and how her intelligence ultimately saves them both when she remembers his "heart of stone."In our Maasverse section (spoilers for all three series!), we connect Feyre's trials to the "ordeals" mentioned in Crescent City, suggesting this might have been Feyre's Fae ordeal despite her human appearance. This strengthens our theory that the Archerons have Fae bloodlines! Our precog corner gets wild with theories about Tamlin being held captive during the Under the Mountain period, explaining his blank expression and sudden defiance during the third trial. We also explore connections between Amarantha and the goddess Deanna from Throne of Glass - could Amarantha have been a priestess of Deanna or possessed by her?Spoilers for the entire ACOTAR series, plus Throne of Glass and Crescent City in the Maasverse section!Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#acotar #sarahjmaas #feyre #tamlin #rhysand #amarantha #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #acomaf #acosf #acofas #acowar #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #faerie #romantasybooks #underthemountain #trials #bookloverTime Stamps:00:00 - 05:20: Our singing careers probably won’t take off, but our hair looks great05:21 - 08:43: Episode structure and disclaimers08:44 - 13:15: Why did Amarantha recognize Feyre's name?13:16 - 18:32: What did Alys mean when she said "don't trust your senses"?18:33 - 35:21: First Trial - The Middengard Wyrm and the Labyrinth35:22 - 48:12: Second Trial - The Riddle and Lucien48:13 - 59:57: Third Trial - Killing the Fae and Tamlin's heart of stone1:00:00 - 1:05:30: Maasverse connections - Was this Feyre's ordeal?1:05:31 - 1:13:22: Precog Corner - Tamlin theories and moon connections1:13:23 - 1:19:36: What we're reading and outro
Abby and Ronnie are back with a WILD deep dive into our favorite foxy red head, Lucien Vanserra! Get ready for some mind-blowing theories about everyone's favorite emissary as we explore his mysterious past, questionable loyalties, and potential future.We kick things off debating whether Lucien and Elain are truly mates (spoiler: it's complicated!). While there's definitely a physical bond between them—Elain even feels that famous "tug on her rib"—something seems off about this pairing. Unlike our other mated couples who were instantly drawn to each other, Elain literally cringes away from Lucien when they first meet! Plus, when Nesta was thrown into the Cauldron, Cassian was crawling through his own blood to reach her, while Lucien just... staggers forward a step? Something seems off with these two. Then we jump into the Spring Court spy saga and bring receipts that Lucian knew Feyre was deceiving Tamlin within MINUTES of her return. That metal eye sees EVERYTHING! But instead of exposing her, he plays along with her scheme, even helping create the illusion that he's vying for her affections. Is this Lucien's fox moment, or is he just done with Tamlin after the Hybern disaster? We explore why his loyalty to the Spring Court was finally starting to crack.We dive deep into the tragic day Jesminda died and uncover some shocking revelations about what really happened. What role did Eris play? How did he anonymously get word to Tamlin? And why does he say “we know nothing” of what happened that day?We theorize that Jesminda might be connected to Gwyn's grandmother—the river nymph who "seduced a high fae male from the Autumn Court." The timing works, the description matches, and Lucien has been to Sangravah! Could Lucien actually be Gwyn's grandfather? And what if Jesminda didn't actually die that day? The possibilities are mind-blowing!Our investigation of Lucien's powers leads us to some jaw-dropping connections between his abilities and his parentage. That spell-cleaving white light? Definitely from Helion! But what about his fire powers? We explore the possibility that his mother's line traces back to something far more ancient and powerful than we've been led to believe.We round it out with a look at why Lucien didn't save Feyre from the Naga. Was he playing matchmaker, intentionally setting up Tamlin to be her hero? Or was he still harboring resentment over Andras's death? Either way, this fox is definitely keeping secrets!Spoilers for the ENTIRE Court of Thorns and Roses series, plus Massverse spoilers in the latter part of the episode!Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you! Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#acotar #sarahjmaas #lucien #lucienvanserra #elain #elainarcheron #azriel #tamlin #feyrearcheron #rhysand #jesminda #eris #helion #gwyn #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcastsTime Stamps:00:00 - 04:55: Intros and Sara Bareilles concert tangent04:55 - 10:09: Episode overview and announcements10:09 - 17:03: Corrections, omissions, and social media shout outs17:03 - 37:01: Are Lucien and Elaine truly mates?37:01 - 42:23: Could Calanmai magic be affecting Lucian and Elaine?42:23 - 49:14: Did Lucian know Feyre was spying on the Spring Court?49:14 - 56:23: What happened the day Jesminda died?56:23 - 1:04:06: Is Jesminda connected to Gwyn's grandmother?1:04:06 - 1:12:08: Why didn't Lucien save Feyre from the Naga?1:12:08 - 1:22:02: Will Lucien become a High Lord?1:22:02 - 1:30:31: Massverse discussion: Are Lucian and Elaine truly mates?1:30:31 - 1:36:50: Where do Lucien's abilities come from?1:36:50 - 1:39:21: Is Lucien hiding more than we think?1:39:21 - 1:42:42: What we're reading and outro
Tamlin Deep DiveYour favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back to kick of their first ACOTAR deep dive - tackling everyone's favorite (or not-so-favorite) High Lord of the Spring Court, TAMLIN! We’ll have you questioning everything you thought you knew about this golden-haired beast.We start with a heated debate about Tamlin's powers - from his classic High Lord magic to his mysterious shape-shifting abilities that go WAY beyond just turning into a beast! We bring receipts on his ability to shift, glamour, and even his secret wind power that he keeps under wraps. Why would a High Lord hide one of his powers? Could it reveal a secret (and sad) connection to Hybern?Then we dive into the burning question: how does Tamlin know so much about Feyre's mortal life? Abby makes a compelling argument that Tamlin’s a daemati, while Ronnie brings out a completely on point theory that Tamlin might have orchestrated the events that led to ACOTAR. We tackle the puzzling connection between Tamlin and Rhys - why would Tamlin wear Illyrian hunting knives when he supposedly hates everything about the Night Court? We examine their complicated past friendship and the tragic events that tore them apart. Could there be more to the story of Rhys's mother and sister than we've been told?Our investigation takes a fascinating turn when we question why Feyre keeps falling asleep uncontrollably around Tamlin. Is it just symbolism for how he dulls her senses, or is something more sinister at play? We analyze four specific instances and what they might reveal about Tamlin's true nature.In our first-ever Mass-verse section (spoiler warning!), we explore the mind-blowing possibilities of Tamlin's lineage. Could he be descended from Rowan and Aelin? Is there a connection to a Prince of Hel from Crescent City? And what about his beast form being the exact sigil of the Pack of Devils? The connections are too striking to ignore!Our Precog Corner gets particularly unhinged as Ronnie theorizes that Amarantha might have been Tamlin's true mate - but not the Amarantha we knew. Was she possessed by a Valg parasite? Meanwhile, Abby debunks the popular theory that Tamlin and Lucian switched places, and proposes that Tamlin was actually the mercenary who bought Andras's pelt!Spoilers for the entire ACOTAR series (A Court of Thorns and Roses through A Court of Silver Flames)Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you! (But come with receipts if you think we're wrong!)Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#acotar #acofas #acomaf #acosf #sarahjmaas #sjm #tamlin #feyre #rhysand #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #fae #romantasybooks #highfantasy #massverse #throneofglass #crescentcityTime Stamps:00:00 - 03:42: Intro and disclaimers03:43 - 07:59: Episode structure and announcements08:00 - 11:05: First impressions of Tamlin11:06 - 18:16: Tamlin's powers and abilities18:17 - 24:17: How does Tamlin know so much about Feyre's mortal life?24:18 - 29:35: Is Tamlin a daemati?29:36 - 34:16: Did Tamlin manipulate Feyre's entire life?34:17 - 38:17: Tamlin's connection to Amarantha38:18 - 43:18: Why does Tamlin wear Illyrian hunting knives?43:19 - 50:31: Tamlin, Rhys, and the death of Rhys's family50:32 - 58:09: Why does Feyre keep falling asleep around Tamlin?58:10 - 59:04: MAASVERSE Deep Dive59:05 - 1:06:47: MAASVERSE: Where do Tamlin's powers come from?1:06:48 - 1:12:36: MAASVERSE: Tamlin's connection to the wolves in Crescent City1:12:37 - 1:20:08: Precog Corner: Was Amarantha Tamlin's mate?1:20:09 - 1:25:34: Precog Corner: Debunking the Tamlin/Lucien switch theory1:25:35 - 1:28:54: What we're reading and outro
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back for season 2 with a brand new obsession - the ACOTAR series! We're diving headfirst into Sarah J. Maas's world of fae, magic, and swoon-worthy romance, and we couldn't be more excited to share our thoughts with you!We kick things off with our overall impressions of A Court of Thorns and Roses as a series, and let's just say we're completely obsessed. Abby confesses that after finishing the Empyrean series, she knew ACOTAR would take over her life (spoiler: it absolutely did). We start with what we love about the series (it’s character development), then we dive into our book-by-book reactions.While initially slow, we both think A Court of Thorns and Roses is genius on a reread! It takes all the tropes we've come to expect and completely flips them on their head. What seems like a swoon-worthy romance with Tamlin on first read reveals itself as something much darker when you know what's coming. A Court of Mist and Fury is nearly perfect. It's a beautiful story about love and healing cleverly disguised as fantasy.. Watching Feyre's journey from broken to whole with Rhys by her side is just magical. Ronnie admits, "This book healed a part of me I didn't even know was broken." The character development is just chef's kiss!A Court of Wings and Ruin brings us Vengeful Feyre and we are here for it! We love seeing her come into her power, and the world-building really expands in this book. The battle scenes are surprisingly engaging because they focus on personal moments rather than just swords clashing. And let's not forget those hints of Cassian and Nesta that had us screaming!A Court of Frost and Starlight gives us a warm hug of an interlude, though we both agree Feyre is kind of insufferable here, especially in how she treats Nesta. And finally, A Court of Silver Flames - when we die, please bury us with this book! Nesta's journey is raw, real, and so beautifully written. The sex scenes are hands down the best in the series (we said what we said), and watching Cassian stand by Nesta when everyone else abandons her is just everything.We reveal our favorite and least favorite characters, choose our top sleeper pick characters (we’re team Eris), and each pick our top three moment from the series (Azriel and Cassian landing on the ice, anyone?). This is just the beginning of our ACOTAR journey and we’re so excited to get started! We'll be diving deep into specific topics, characters, and theories in future episodes. And don't worry - we'll always give you a heads-up before any Crescent City or Throne of Glass spoilers!Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#acotar #acosf #acomaf #acowar #acofas #sarahjmaas #feyre #rhysand #nesta #cassian #azriel #elain #tamlin #mor #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #faecourt #nightcourt #springcourt #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with their FINAL episode on the Empyrean series! Join us for Part Two of our Book Four Predictions where we dive DEEPER into our theories and tie everything together before we officially move on to ACOTAR!We kick things off lamenting the summer heat before diving into our most burning questions about what's coming in Book Four. We explore what Violet will be able to do with her dreamwalking abilities - can she spy on people? Create things in dreams? TRAP people there? The possibilities are wild and we're here for all of them!Then we tackle the future of Violet and Xaden’'s relationship (they're endgame, but that doesn't mean smooth sailing). We predict this will be another book of doubting Xaden - not their relationship, but everything else about him. With Xaden now publicly known as Venin, Violet will face a serious political challenge as Duchess while wrestling with all the secrets he's kept from her. How will she defend him after what happened at Draithus?We explore what we'll learn from Grandma Niara (finally!), including what really happened when Brennan and Mira were left with her, Asher's mysterious travels, and what Lilith and Asher were ACTUALLY doing during the Tyrrish rebellion. Plus, we theorize about Mira's incredible ward-creating abilities - is she wielding pure power like Violet?Our Basgiath predictions get intense as we question whether the dragons will continue fighting for Navarre when they know the real threat is the Venin. Will we see full civil war? Will more dragons defect to Tyrrendor? And what about those six missing dragon eggs?! We break down all our theories: are they with Xaden as an offering to the gods? Being used to fire another wardstone? Or taken by Navarre as an act of war?We round it all out with our predictions about the Venin cure (yes, we think we'll find it, but no, we don't think Xaden will be cured yet), what we'll finally learn about Naolin and Brennan's mysterious past, and how the gods will play into everything. Plus, we share what we're currently reading - Ronnie's deep in ACOTAR's Wings and Ruin while Abby's enjoying The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue.This is officially our LAST episode on the Empyrean series before we dive into ACOTAR for Season 2! Our first ACOTAR episode will be a general overview, followed by a deep dive on everyone's favorite Spring Court lord, Tamlin (trust us, it'll be good!).Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #romantasy #empyrean #book #bookpodcast #predictions #theories #acotar #sarahjmaasTime Stamps:00:00 - 03:50: We’re not summer girls anymore03:51 - 05:19: Announcements (TV show updates and ACOTAR news)05:20 - 18:23: Corrections and social media shout-outs18:24 - 26:25: Book 4 Predictions - What will Violet do in dreams?26:26 - 31:04: What will happen with Violet and Xayden's relationship?31:05 - 34:50: What will we learn from Grandma Niara?34:51 - 38:17: What will become of Basgiath in Book Four?38:18 - 42:16: Will there be Venin offspring? Who will it be?42:17 - 45:09: What will we learn about the Venin in Book Four?45:10 - 50:32: What role will the gods play in book 4?50:33 - 54:56: What role will the dragons and the Irids play?54:57 - 1:01:33: What else will be uncovered about the history of the continent and the isles?1:01:34 - 1:04:30: Will we find the cure in book 4?1:04:31 - 1:06:39: Will we finally learn what happened with Naolin and Brennan?1:06:40 - 1:09:35: How will the six missing dragon eggs play into the plot?1:09:36 - 1:16:28: What we're reading and Season 2 preview
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with their most forward-looking episode yet - Onyx Storm: Book Four Predictions Part 1! Just when you thought they were done with the Empyrean series, they've returned for one last wild ride through their theories before moving on to their next adventure.We kick things off with the clip that broke booktok - Sarah J. Maas's announcement that the first “drafts” for the next ACOTAR book are done! Was it an arrow? Was it an 8? Was it something else entirely? Then we dive into our actual predictions for Rebecca Yarros's fourth Empyrean book. Despite promising we were done with Navarre for the time being, we just couldn't resist giving you what you asked for - a comprehensive theory roundup and prediction fest!First, we explore how Book Four might begin, with Violet struggling to establish her legitimacy as the new Duchess of Tyrrendor (it won't be smooth sailing). We predict constitutional crises, assembly resistance, and potential war with Navarre looming on the horizon. Meanwhile, we theorize that Xaden has captured Berwyn and is torturing him for information about controlling his urges or breaking the Venin's control. And poor Tairn? We think he'll be recovering from his injuries for a while, leaving Andarna to step up as Violet's primary dragon connection.Then we map out the geographical settings for Book Four, predicting a journey that takes us back to the Isles (particularly Unnbriel and Loysam), across the Emerald Sea (possibly to find the gods?), and potentially to Cordyn for a bargain with Tecarus. We debate whether Violet will leave someone in charge of Tyrrendor (Llewellyn? Brennan? The assembly?) while she searches for Xaden or the missing eggs.Our death predictions get dark as we discuss who might not survive Book Four - with Ridoc, Dane, Talia, and possibly even Tairn on our list of potential casualties. We also identify our most pivotal characters for the next book, including Aaric (the pre-cog who knows way more than he's letting on), Bodhi (either as "the brother" or Violet's supporter), Mira (with her mysterious legacy from Lilith), Dane (possibly a Venin offspring?), and Imogen (who knows what happened during those missing twelve hours).Our plot twist predictions will blow your mind! We dive deep into Norse mythology to explore what Fen Riorson's name might reveal about Xaden's lineage, theorize that Violet will learn to walk into minds while awake (not just dreams!), and suggest that Asher might have been a secret Irid rider who manipulated time. Plus, we predict the next book's title will start with "Silver" - maybe Silver Thread or Silver Shroud?This episode is basically one giant Precog Corner where no theory is too unhinged and no detail goes unanalyzed. We're wrapping up our Empyrean coverage (for real this time!) before launching our ACOTAR season on August 11th, so don't miss Part 2 next week!Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on socials:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #romantasy #empyrean #book #booklover #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #acotar #sjm #predictions #theoriesTime Stamps:00:00 - 05:33: The clip that broke booktok05:34 - 10:56: Corrections and social media shoutouts10:57 - 19:10: How Book Four might begin 19:11 - 33:32: Geographical settings 33:33 - 38:17: How we'll learn what's happening with Xaden38:18 - 48:12: Who might die 48:13 - 58:34: Most pivotal characters 58:35 - 1:07:45: Plot twist predictions1:07:46 - 1:21:10: Title predictions1:21:11 - 1:26:40: What we're reading 1:26:41 - 1:31:16: Social media information and ACOTAR season announcement
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with the delightfully chaotic "Onyx Storm: Loose Ends!" We tackle all those burning questions from Onyx Storm that they couldn’t quite fit into an episode, but still deserve their time to shine! Some come from you, our amazing listeners, while others are plot points we've been stewing over that deserve answers in the next book!First, we explore possible mistranslations in Warrick's journal entries. Could Violet's shaky command of Old Lucerish have led her astray? Would Violet and Dain would even know the proper words for "Venin" or "Irid" in Old Lucerish?Next, we analyze those mysterious black bracelets—Mira's black tourmaline bracelet from Niara and the onyx cuff Violet gives to Xaden. Could these bracelets offer psychic protection? And what about Xaden's onyx cuff containing a piece of Riorson House roof? Is it helping ground his magic or protecting his soul?We debunk the theory that Sgaeyl, Tairn, and Andarna are the three dragons who died from broken bonds—the timeline just doesn't work! Then we dive into the fascinating colors of bonds between riders and dragons. Why is Xaden's bond to Violet shimmering onyx? Why can't Xaden see Andarna at all? Could it be that Andarna and Violet don't have a traditional bond at all?Our investigation continues with what it means that Violet is Xaden's "leash" or "tether." We explore the thread imagery throughout the books and wonder if every Venin has a tether to their humanity that the Venin leadership aims to destroy. Is this why Jack hated Violet so much from the beginning? Was he a Venin plant all along?Things get wild when we question why nobody tried using Andarna's scale-changing magic against the Venin again after it worked once! And what was that first rune they removed from the Wardstone? If it wasn't preventing flyers from channeling, could it have been blocking the power of the gods?In our wildest Precog Corner yet, Ronnie theorizes that "the six and the one combined" might be describing an Irid's ability to change colors, while Abby wonders if the Venin understand signets as ways to traverse different planes of existence—physical, dream world, and astral!We wrap up with what we're currently reading (Ronnie's forever loyal to ACOMAF and ACOSF, while Abby's struggling through Song of Achilles after being spoiled by Sarah J. Maas's rich worldbuilding).Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you! (But please come with receipts!)Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy Time Stamps:00:00 Intro - Everyone should own a pizza stone05:45 Corrections, Omissions, Social Media Shout Outs - Tairn and Brennan, Bodhi's more powerful than we thought10:29 Which other journal entries from Warrick might be mistranslated?22:47 What role will Mira and Xaden's bracelets play in the next books?32:43 Who are the three dragons that have died with their riders?35:59 What do the different colors of the bonds between Violet, Tairn, Sgaeyl and Andarna mean?44:37 What does it mean that Violet is Xaden's leash?49:47 Was Jack always planning to turn Venin?52:39 Why was Jesinia assigned to the rider's quadrant?55:07 What's going on with the Cordella family tree?57:15 Why does Violet never follow up on magic feeling different when Andarna changes her scales?!?01:01:06 What was the first rune that Violet + co. removed from the wardstone?01:08:26 Precog Corner - The One combined, The Astral Plane01:14:46 What we're reading - ACOTAR, Song of Achilles
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with “Onyx Storm: Mailbag #3 / The Epilogue” - answering all your burning questions about the ending of Onyx Storm! This mailbag-plus episode dives into your comments, theories, and the details we missed in our previous discussions.We kick things off with a deep dive into the identity of "the brother" - examining your compelling arguments for Garrick, Aaric, and even some wild cards like Panchek! We bring receipts on the timeline discrepancies, chapter overlaps, and why we're still firmly Team Bodhi despite your excellent counterpoints. Could Imogen's chapter be happening in parallel with Xaden in the valley? We analyze every possible male character in the battle and whether they could fit the criteria!Next, we tackle Xaden's mysterious plan and the stolen dragon eggs. Could they be gathering materials to fire another Wardstone? We break down the exact timeline for dragon maturation (only 3-4 years!), discuss whether they'd need an Irid's help, and question how anyone would know which color each egg would hatch since “only elders” know what color a hatchling’s scales will be.Then we address the passionate debate about where Xaden and Violet got married - was it really Unnbriel or did they risk everything by returning to Aretia? We examine the evidence: the ceremonial dagger from Dune's temple in Aretia, the favor owed, and the practical challenges of a Venin walking into warded territory. Something doesn't add up!We round out with our wildest theories yet - how will Violet find Xaden? Could it be the stupid broken compass? Could it be Cat's mind-blowing tracking runes? Or is it possible that the Irids can track each other the way Venin can?In our most revealing Precog Corner yet, we get into evidence that Violet isn't just dreamwalking while people sleep - she's entering minds while they're fully awake! We also theorize that when Xaden writes "it is yours now," he might be giving up more than just his title - what if Venin lose their human names entirely when they turn? The implications are heartbreaking!Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod ServerEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #thebrother #bodhi #garrick #aaric #dreamwalking #veninTime Stamps:00:00 - 03:18: Intro and 90s food nostalgia03:19 - 06:53: Announcements and episode overview06:54 - 11:07: The Brother debate - Garrick timeline theories11:08 - 18:16: Could Imogen's chapter be happening in parallel?18:17 - 22:42: Arguments against Bodhi being the brother22:43 - 31:08: Examining Aaric as a candidate31:09 - 35:07: Wild card theories (Panchek, Sawyer, and secret sons)35:08 - 41:05: Xaden's plan and the stolen dragon eggs41:06 - 49:18: Dragon scales being hereditary and what it means49:19 - 54:22: Where did Violet and Xaden get married?54:23 - 59:57: How will Violet find Xaden?59:58 - 1:05:16: Irids tracking each other and Leothan's mysteries1:05:17 - 1:11:17: Precog Corner: Dreamwalking while awake theory1:11:18 - 1:15:36: Precog Corner: Venin names and identities1:15:37 - 1:19:00: What we're reading and outro
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with our second fantasy draft episode, this time focusing on the Marked Ones of the Empyrean series! We're choosing Garrick, Bodhi, Imogen, Sloane, and Liam in categories that will make you laugh, cry, and everything in between.We kick things off with a heated debate about the proper condiments for french fries (mayo supremacy vs. sweet barbecue) before diving into our main event. First, we tackle the most onbvious question: who's the most powerful Marked One? Is it distance-wielding Garrick who can literally teleport across continents with his dragon, or nobility-born Bodhi with his signet-countering abilities and mysterious second signet? Our answers surprise you!Then we explore whose signet would be the absolute worst to accidentally wield in the bedroom (memory erasing, anyone?), and debate which of our beloved characters is most likely to die in the upcoming books (we're looking at you, reckless Bodhi). We analyze who would make the best wingman or wingwoman (Liam already executes this to a T), who would have your back in a back-alley fight (Imogen's "I will destroy you" energy vs. Garrick's human wall vibes), and who will play the biggest role in upcoming books.Our Precog Corner gets particularly juicy this week with two mind-blowing theories: First, could Fen Riorson actually be alive and held captive at Basgiath? We bring receipts from that cryptic Panchek-Berwyn conversation about "access to your son" and what it might really mean. Then we explore the fascinating connection between Liam's family name (Mairi) and its meaning "of the sea" - could this explain the mysterious box with the Mairi crest that lured the Venin? Are the Irids somehow connected to water, and was that box actually a booby trap?We round things out with our current reads and some fascinating thoughts on the Washington Post article about "book boyfriends" and whether romantasy is creating unrealistic expectations for real men. (Spoiler: we think men should absolutely read these books!)Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod ServerSubmit your book recommendations!Email us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #markedones #garrick #bodhi #imogen #sloane #liamTime Stamps:00:00 - 05:33: Intro: Would you like some mayo with your fries?05:34 - 06:04: Announcements: Season 2 on ACOTAR, We’re on Discord!06:05 - 13:58: The modern stat of “Book Boyfriends”13:59 - 24:21: C/O/SM - Navarrian Troops, Black Holes, Siphons who aren’t Sloane, Is King Tauri Venin?24:22 - 26:17: The Marked Ones Fantasy Draft!26:18 - 32:50: Who is the most powerful Marked One?32:51 - 34:47: Which Marked One’s signet would be the worst to wield in the bedroom?34:48 - 40:14: Which Marked One is the most likely to die?40:15 - 43:18: Which Marked One would make the best wingman / wingwoman?43:19 - 44:35: Which Marked One would be the best in a fight? 44:36 - 49:44: Which Marked One will play the biggest role in upcoming books?49:45 - 51:26: Which Marked One do we want to hang out with the most? (Liam, obviously) 51:27 - 54:12: Which Marked One’s signet would be the best to wield in the bedroom?54:13 - 01:05:55: Precog Corner: Is Fen alive, The Mairi’s connection to the Irid’s?1:05:56 - 01:10:11: What we’re reading!
The Iron Squad Fantasy Draft!!Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with a FUN twist on their usual deep dives - it's IRON SQUAD FANTASY DRAFT time! We're taking a break from our usual theory-heavy episodes to play a little game. Some of it's serious, some of it's silly, all of it's fun. For each category, we each get to pick one Iron Squad member, but we can't pick the same person. Our draft pool includes Dain, Rhi, Ridoc, Aaric, Sawyer, Maren, and Cat.First up: Who's the most powerful member of the Iron Squad? Is Cat more powerful than we thing? And how powerful is Molvic?Things get juicy when we debate who's most likely to betray Violet. Ronnie picks Ridoc (but only because he'd think it was for Violet's own good), while Abby makes a compelling case for Maren, whose parents were killed in a trap meant for Violet. We also tackle the most unlikely couple in the Iron Squad (Rhi and Ridoc give major sibling vibes) and whose signet would be the ABSOLUTE WORST to accidentally wield during sex (freezing your partner mid-moment? No thank you, Ridoc!).The laughs start coming when we pick whose signet would be the BEST to accidentally wield during sex (Cat, obviously - emotion manipulation has its perks!), who will play the biggest role in upcoming books, and who our personal favorites are. Poor Sawyer barely gets any picks throughout our draft, confirming Rebecca's admission that she hasn't given him enough attention!In our wildest Precog Corner yet, Abby dives into the fascinating mythology behind our Iron Squad members' names. Did you know that Aetos means "eagle" in Greek and refers to Zeus's childhood companion who was later the object of Hera’s jealousy? The parallels to Dain, Violet, and Xaden are too eerie to be a coincidence. Ronnie counters with a theory about the cure for Venin that might just change everything: What if there IS no cure because channeling from the source is simply a choice that Venin have to stop making? What if the entire series is actually a massive allegory for addiction? The implications are chilling!We wrap up with our current reads - Abby's loving "This Is How You Lose the Time War" (a tight, dense novella about two beings on opposite sides of a time war falling in love through letters), while Ronnie's rereading A Court of Thorns and Roses and discovering all the hidden gems she missed the first time around.Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod ServerEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We REALLY appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #ironsquad #romantasy #romantasybooks #dain #rhi #ridoc #aaric #cat #maren #sawyerTime Stamps:00:00 - 04:44: Intro - Coca Cola still hasn't called04:45 - 08:32: Announcements and podcast milestones08:33 - 12:26: C/O/SM12:27 - 18:16: Draft rules!18:17 - 33:32: Who is the most powerful member of the Iron Squad?33:33 - 41:39: Who is most likely to betray Violet?41:40 - 46:51: Most unlikely couple in the Iron Squad46:52 - 50:24: Whose signet would be the worst to accidentally wield during sex?50:25 - 53:32: Whose signet would be the best to accidentally wield during sex?53:33 - 59:19: Who is most likely to die?59:20 - 1:05:05: Who will play the biggest role in upcoming books?1:05:06 - 1:07:36: Who's your favorite member of the Iron Squad?1:07:37 - 1:18:18: Precog Corner: Dain's name, what if there is no cure?1:18:19 - 1:22:10: What we're reading!
The End Of Onyx Storm Part 2 - Violet’s VersionYour favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with their deep dive into the final chapter of Onyx Storm! Buckle up for "The Ending of Onyx Storm (Part 2): Violet's Version" where we dissect every shocking detail of that cliffhanger ending that left us all shattered!We kick things off with the an unusual question: how did Violet get to Riorson House ? We discuss distance wielders, siphons, and why Garrick might NOT be Venin after all (or is he?). Then we tackle what that mysterious "shape moving in the shadows" really is—spoiler alert: it's probably not Xaden!Next, we dive into why Brennan's eyes bulged when he saw Violet. Is her hair fully silver now? Does she have a tattoo? Or is something even more dramatic happening? We explore why Andarna is so confident she can protect Violet from being burned, and what that means about her time with the Irids.Things get wild when we discuss those missing 12 hours that Imogen wiped from Violet's memory. We start by discussing the timing and location of Violet and Xaden’s wedding - how could they have gotten married in Aretia when Xaden maybe can’t go in the wards anymore? And either way wouldn’t everyone have been looking for him? Did they actually get married in Unnbriel, and if so are Andarna’s time manipulation powers back?! Plus, we identify the four missing riders (our money's on Xaden, Garrick, Bodhi, and... DAIN?!) and debate who murdered those three elders in the valley (hint: it wasn't Xaden!).Our most compelling theory yet emerges when we analyze that cryptic note: "Don't look for me, it's yours now." What exactly is "it"? We make a shocking connection between Malek, souls, and why Andarna is so determined to prevent Violet from burning. Could Violet now be dedicated to the god of death himself?!We round it all out with our wildest Precog Corner yet, where Ronnie theorizes that Tairn might have been forced to kill Naolin after he turned, while Abby drops a bombshell about the true name of the continent and what it reveals about the gods!Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod ServerEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you! (But come with receipts if you think we're wrong!)Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We REALLY appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #tairn #violet #xaden #andarna #venin #malek #godsTime Stamps:00:00 - 02:50: Intros and episode overview02:51 - 07:44: Announcements and social media shout-outs07:45 - 11:33: Jess's theory about Xaden sneaking into Violet's bed11:34 - 18:19: Setting the scene for Chapter 6618:20 - 22:18: How did Violet get to Riorson House?22:19 - 29:33: What is the shape that moves in the shadows?29:34 - 35:59: Why do Brennan's eyes bulge when they see Violet?36:00 - 39:48: Why would they burn Violet?39:49 - 47:26: The missing 12 hours and time manipulation47:27 - 52:17: Who are the four missing riders and their dragons?52:18 - 57:32: Who murdered the elders in the valley?57:33 - 1:03:22: Where did they get married and why?1:03:23 - 1:11:14: Why did Tairn need a cycle of rest?1:11:15 - 1:19:30: What is "it" in "it's yours now"?1:19:31 - 1:24:05: Why did Imogen erase Violet's memory?1:24:06 - 1:34:44: Where is Xaden now?1:34:45 - 1:39:42: Precog Corner: Tairn and Naolin's fate1:39:43 - 1:44:51: Precog Corner: Amari, Malek, and the continent1:44:52 - 1:51:41: Reading Corner: Empire of Storms1:51:42 - 1:54:33: Wrap-up and social media information
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with part one of their mind-blowing deep dive into the ending of Onyx Storm! We're kicking things off with a return to our Diet Coke discourse (and bubbly drinks in general) before diving head-first into what happens to our favorite shadow-daddy on top of that hidden sun-soaked canyon. We start by tackling the burning question that's keeping us all up at night: who is the brother that turned Venin? We bring receipts analyzing every possible candidate - from Bodhi (on his hands and knees "retching" in the town square... or channeling?), to Garrick (mysteriously missing at the end), to Aaric (who would be the last person Xaden would expect to turn). The evidence points to someone who felt they "weren't enough" during the battle, and we're ready to name names!We explore the mysterious line about "the one who thinks himself my brother" - is it a person or could it be something else entirely? And what about Berwyn's cryptic comment "I have another" when Panchek claims to be the only one who can give him access to his son? Our investigation gets wild when we discuss which initiate wants to kill their sage (besides Xaden). Could Naolin still be alive? Has he been Venin this whole time? And what does Berwyn have that Xaden needs so desperately? We theorize it might be knowledge about dreamwalking that could be crucial to whatever plan Xaden has set in motion.We round it all out by analyzing why Xaden tells Sgaeyl "it is the only way" - what happened that made this path the only viable option? And what's the real purpose behind those Rhi and Imogen POV chapters? (Hint: it might have something to do with those missing 12 hours we'll discuss next episode!)In our wildest Precog Corner yet, Abby theorizes about Bodhi's name meaning "awakening" or "enlightenment" in Buddhism and what that could mean if he's Venin offspring destined to evolve, while Ronnie explores the fascinating possibility that Venin can sense pain even when there’s no magic!Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #tairn #violet #xaden #bodhi #venin #brennan #naolin #sgaeyl00:00 - 5:54: Sparkling Water, Avril Lavigne, no skips albums5:55 - 11:29: Intro + Opening Thoughts11:30 - 23:43: Corrections, Omissions, Social Media - Gifts, Irids, and Venin; Were Aaric and Andarna working together, Mairi family + Maorsite23:43 - 29:01: How we felt about the ending of Onyx Storm29:02 - 49:16: Recap of the ending (through Xaden’s POV)49:17 - 1:05:57: Who is the brother?1:05:58 - 01:11:10: Who is the one who thinks himself the brother?01:11:11 - 1:14:50 : Who is Berwyn’s son? (Probably not Jack!)1:14:51 - 1:21:14 Who is the other initiate who wants to kill their sage?1:21:15 - 1:26:32: What does Berwyn have that Xaden needs?1:26:33 - 1:28:33 Why this ending was “The Only Way”1:28:34 - 1:35:42: The purpose of Rhi and Imogen’s POV Chapters and why doesn’t Rhi know about dragon’s farsight1:35:43 - 1:43:58: Pre-cog corner - Is Bodhi the key to the end of this series? Do Venin have abilities even when there's no magic?
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with their most compelling theories yet! Join them for a deep dive into the most intriguing dreams in Rebecca Yarros' Onyx Storm. Fair warning: things get complicated, theories get elaborate, and we're seriously considering that the Venin might be running some sort of magical MLM scheme.What Madness Awaits You This EpisodeDreams, Schemes, and Thoughtful TheoriesThe Venin MLM Conspiracy: Seriously, how do they have so many signets?Violet's Hidden Superpower: What if the Venin are actually trying to stop time?The Perfect Spy Theory: How Violet accidentally became the ultimate spyThe Brennan Situation: More evidence that our favorite resurrected brother might not be entirely himselfEvery Single Dream, DissectedDream #1: Where we first suspect the Venin are up to no goodDream #2: Foreshadowing some spiceDream #3: This changes everythingMaren's Dream: Violet becomes spymasterDream #5: Who's hair is that?!?Dream #6: The juicy one Precog Corner Gets WildWhy does Leothan think that dream-walking is dangerous?Siphon deep dive that'll make your head spinWhat Makes This Podcast Your New ObsessionDragons in the Details is where Empyrean series fans come to:Analyze every detail with the thoroughness it deservesDevelop theories that are elaborate but surprisingly plausibleDiscuss character development like the complex topic it isAppreciate romantic tension in all its formsHunt for Easter eggs with dedication and coffeeEpisode Breakdown (For Your Convenience)00:00 - 03:26: Why audiobooks give us the ick (but hey, Onyx Storm's audiobook is out!)03:26 - 08:34: Setting the stage for dream chaos08:35 - 21:11: Brennan conspiracy theories with fresh evidence21:12 - 33:02: Dream #1 and our MLM theory that we're totally serious about33:03 - 38:38: Dream #2 predictions that'll blow your mind38:39 - 48:47: The time manipulation bombshell48:48 - 52:35: Maren's dream gets us theorizing hard52:36 - 1:15:56: Hair mysteries that keep us up at night1:15:57 - 1:26:32: The dream that made us lose our minds1:26:32 - 1:29:52: General dream madness1:29:53 - 1:38:07: Pre-cog corner where we get really nerdy1:38:08 - 1:43:05: What we're reading (spoiler: it's Sarah J. Maas)Find us being ridiculous on:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod Server (where the real chaos happens)Email us your theories: dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - We love hearing from fellow fantasy enthusiasts!Please rate, subscribe, and review! It helps other readers discover our analysis.Fair Warning: We spoil EVERYTHING in the Empyrean Series. Like, everything. You've been warned.You'll love this if you're into: Rebecca Yarros' intricate plotting, Fourth Wing series obsession, Empyrean universe deep dives, fantasy romance that keeps you up at night, thoughtful book analysis, Violet and Xaden's complex relationship, dragon rider fantasy, romantasy that takes over your reading list, BookTok discoveries that become life-changing readsCharacters we're invested in: Violet Sorrengail, Xaden Riorson, Brennan (questionable), Tairn (dragon perfection), Sgaeyl, Bodhi, Ridoc, Lilith, those terrifying Venin, dragon riders in general, the Basgiath War College crew, signet powers we wish we had, dream walkers, time manipulatorsSubscribe to Dragons in the Details where no theory is too unhinged and no detail goes unanalyzed. We're your trusty captains in the world of fantasy romance!
Your favorite crazy book theorists and co-hosts Abby and Ronnie sit down to talk about YOUR THEORIES again in Onyx Storm: Mailbag #2!We start off strong, with Abby realizing that Cath is in fact a man and not a nickname for “Cathy.” We then dive into whether Cath’s breath smelling bad is actually a clue to Cath’s age, and ponder if he might actually be way more important than we thought.We debunk the popular “Ridoc is a venin” theory with some very key evidence from the Cliffs of Dralor. Sorry guys, Ridoc’s definitely not a venin - but we’re still not sure why he hates sewing. We get into the Battle of Suniva and try to figure out how long the venin have been secretly stealing daggers, and conclude that when Devera tells us something’s important, we should listen.After that we discuss Tairn and Codagh’s lineage and get into the “Is Tairn really Thereux?” question. We get into some of our wildest theories to date with speculation on Brennan’s identity (why did Violet think he would know Old Lucerish?) and realize that Lilith has known about the Venin for way longer than we thought. To round it out, we talk about the symbolism of Bodhi’s name (and Cuir’s name) and ponder what role they might play in the larger story. We wonder why everyone seems to always forget that the irids are invisible and could literally be anywhere, at any time (looking at you Unnbriel), and conclude with a fun reading corner on Crescent City (no spoilers! We promise.) Spoilers for the entire Empyrean SeriesFollow us on social media:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod ServerEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #tairn #violet #xaden #bodhi #cath #lilith #theophanie #ridoc #venin #codagh #alloy #daggers #dragonsTime Stamps00:00 - 02:59: Intro03:00 - 07:49: Is Cath an elder? And also a man?07:50 - 13:18: Ridoc is NOT a Venin13:19 - 19:50: The Venin have been after the Daggers this whole time (or, why we should always listen to Devera)19:51 - 24:54: Is Tairn secretly Thereux? (Spoiler: Probably not)24:55 - 30:15: Why are the wyvern snatching up dead gryphons?30:16 - 33:28: Ok, so like, what’s the deal with Brennan?33:29 - 38:00: Lilith has known about the venin for way longer than we thought38:01 - 40:08: How much magic can venin channel40:09 - 43:32: The symbolism of Bodhi’s name43:33 - 46:00: Violet’s just a big battery (And also, we’re starting to forget our own theories)46:01 - 50:24: Why is everyone forgetting that the irids can turn invisible?50:25 - 54:06: Are the isles the gods?54:07 - 01:01:25: Reading Corner (We’re both reading Crescent City!) and Conclusion
Your favorite crazy book theorists and co-hosts Abby and Ronnie sit down to talk about the history of Navarre in Onyx Storm: History Part 2 - The Second Krovlan Uprising, The Tyrrish Rebellion, and Other Fun Stuff!We start with the Second Krovlan Uprising, where we explore what REALLY happened when Deverelli brokered that mysterious deal between an unnamed Isle kingdom and Krovla. Why did the Krovlish Raiders try to cross into Navarre at Athebyne? Was Unnbriel the unnamed isle, or did Violet jump to conclusions? And what's the connection between the feathertails the raiders were looking for and the feathertails that Asher was studying?Then we jump to the Tyrrish Rebellion, examining the motivations behind Fen Riorson, Lilith Sorrengail, and other key players; looking deep into Fen’s alliance with Viscount Tecaurs, and discuss the shocking revelation that "other dragons" were hiding in Aretia! We bring receipts on Lilith's capture of the rebellion leaders, Brennan's supposed "death," and the rebellion relics. Why does Sgaeyl hate Brennan so much? And what was Naolin's ACTUAL fate??We round it out with a look at Basgaiath War College's founding (how could it have been built on Runes?!) and the various cover-ups throughout Navarre's history. When did they start erasing the Venin from the archives? Why is there no irid in the Rotunda at Basgiath? And why are the Venin traveling along bodies of water??Our precog corner gets WILD this episode as we theorize about a secret Irid den in Aretia, water dragons, and the possibility of another continent! Is this why Asher pointed Violet toward these specific historical events? The blanket of lies is starting to unravel!Spoilers for the entire Empyrean SeriesFollow us on social media:Instagram: @dragonsinthedetailspodTikTok: @dragonsinthedetailspodYouTube: @dragonsinthedetailspodDiscord: Dragons In the Details Pod ServerEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks Timestamps:00:00 - 5:26 - Intros (Please don’t spoil Throne of Glass for Abby)5:27 - 9:26 - Announcement (We’re on discord now! Dragons In the Details Pod Server)9:27 - 20:56 - Corrections, Omissions, Social Media Shout Outs20:57 - 43:55 - The Second Krovlan Uprising43:56 - 1:31:52 - The Tyrrish Rebellion1:31:53 - 1:38:12 - The Founding of Basgiath1:38:13 - 1:47:22 - Undocumented History, including the Venin Cover-Up1:47:23 - 1:51:26 - Precog Corner!1:51:27 - 1:53:33 - What we’re reading + Outros
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with a mind-blowing deep dive into the mysterious history of Navarre in Onyx Storm: History Part 1 - The Origin, The Great War, and The First Six!We kick things diving into the fascinating world of the Fables of the Barren - that antique, heavy tome that holds the key to understanding the REAL history of this continent! We explore where this rare book came from, why Asher made sure Violet knew these stories by heart, and what it means that this knowledge has been passed down through generations while being erased from official records.Then we tackle the mysterious origin story of the three brothers who fought to control magic in an ancient kingdom. One brother bonded to a gryphon, one to a dragon, and when the third grew jealous, he drew directly from the source, losing his soul and waging war on the other two. But what of the third brother who commanded the sky to surrender its greatest power vanquished his jealous sibling "at a great and terrible price." What was that price? And is Violet about to pay it?We dive deep into the conflicting stories about who first bonded with dragons - was it one of these brothers or the legendary First Six? And why would dragons know about runes before humans had access to magic? Next, we explore the Great War and unification of Navarre, examining why the Isle Kingdoms once fought alongside Navarre and Poromiel against the Venin but now refuse to get involved. We bring receipts on Warrick's decision to prevent gryphons from channeling within the wards and Lyra's opposition that led her to create a second wardstone at Aretia. Why did dragons turn against gryphons after fighting alongside them? And what's the connection between the hatching grounds and this mysterious conflict?Our precog corner gets REALLY wild this episode as Ronnie speculates on the origin of Runes. Meanwhile, Abby drops a bombshell theory about why Andarna’s not fond of pits. Could this explain why the Irids hate violence so much?We wrap up with our current reads - Abby's deep into Crescent City and worried about Hunt becoming the next Tamlin, while Ronnie's finished book three and is keeping her lips sealed!Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #history #greatwar #fables #venin #dragons #griffinsTime Stamps:00:00 - 05:26: Intro and scheduling chaos05:27 - 09:26: Corrections, omissions, and social media shout-outs09:27 - 20:56: The Fables of the Barren20:57 - 33:55: The Origin Story of the Three Brothers33:56 - 43:55: Who really bonded with dragons first?43:56 - 59:52: The Great War and Unification of Navarre59:53 - 1:07:12: The Wardstones and why gryphons can't channel1:07:13 - 1:18:07: What ended the war with the Venin?1:18:08 - 1:24:45: Precog Corner: Runes as an ancient language and pit-fighting Irids1:24:46 - 1:29:52: What we're reading and outro
Your favorite crazy book theorists Abby and Ronnie dive deep into the mysterious world of signets in episode nine of Dragons in the Details! Get ready for a wild ride through the magical powers of the Empyrean series as we unpack everything you need to know about who can wield what (and why some people might be lying about it)!We start with a confession: Abby attended Onyx Storm Trivia and didn't win first place! The shame! Then we jump into our signet roundup where we analyze Violet's lightning wielding abilities and question what it means that she's actually wielding pure power. Is she a conduit making everyone around her more powerful? The evidence is starting to stack up!Then we tackle the burning question of Venin balance - does Violet even have a balance? Theophanie's cryptic words suggest she might not, but we have some compelling theories about Jack and his mysterious power display in Fourth Wing that might contradict that!We dissect Xaden's shadow wielding and intention reading abilities, which seem to be growing stronger since his transformation. Who's the balance for his intention reading now? We think it might be a certain Colonel. Plus, we explore the mystery of Garrick's distance wielding (why hasn't he been carrying Xaden to Violet's bed every night?) and Bodhi's second signet.Our deep dive continues with Mira's ward creation abilities that defy explanation - how can one person do what normally requires seven dragons and a wardstone? We also examine the confusing case of Ridoc and Liam's ice wielding mix-up (oopsie or carefully laid groundwork?), and examine Imogen's earth wielding ability.The biggest mystery of all? Why Dain has so much power. Could Cath's bad breath be a clue to something significant? And what about those six most powerful signets mentioned in the epigraphs? We break down which signets might make the list and why summoning might be more powerful than anyone realized.Our precog corner gets wild as we theorize about dragons gifting powers, time manipulation, and whether Carr is intentionally teaching riders to burn out! Plus, a last-minute theory about who else might be talking to a certain deceased character has us questioning everything we thought we knew about the afterlife in this series.Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:InstagramTikTokYoutubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you! Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! It helps our baby podcast find its way in this world!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #tairn #violet #xaden #bodhi #signets #dragons #veninTime Stamps:00:00 - 01:15: Intros and Abby's trivia confession01:16 - 05:26: What signet would you choose?05:27 - 11:58: Corrections, omissions, and social media shout-outs11:59 - 20:06: Violet's signet roundup and Venin balance commentary20:07 - 24:54: Jack's mysterious power and potential balance theories24:55 - 30:15: Xaden's shadow wielding and intention reading30:16 - 35:35: Garrick's distance wielding and Bodhi's secret second signet35:36 - 41:13: Lilith, Theophanie, and Brennan's signet balances41:14 - 47:22: Mira's ward creation abilities and possible explanations47:23 - 51:26: Riddick, Liam, and the ice wielding confusion51:27 - 58:06: Rhiannon's summoning and other rider signets58:07 - 1:02:01: Signets we don't know and theories about Sloan1:02:02 - 1:10:44: What's going on with Dain?1:10:45 - 1:24:05: The limits of signets1:24:06 - 1:33:36: Which six signets might be the most powerful?1:33:37 - 1:49:13: Precog corner1:49:14 - 1:50:03: Wrap-up
Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with a mind-blowing deep dive into the mysterious isle of Deverelli! This episode was born from a throwaway theory that grew into something we just couldn't ignore - and trust us, you're going to want to hear this one.First, we tackle our favorite Deverelli moments - Ronnie loves when Xaden shows his softer side in the marketplace (and everyone is completely shocked), while Abby confesses her favorite part is when Xaden wields from the alloy to protect Violet (no judgment here!). We discuss how Deverelli represents Xaden's last moment of peace before everything falls apart, and how it gives us a glimpse of what their lives could have been without war and magic.Then we dive into our main theory about Deverelli's true nature and its relationship with the gods. We bring receipts about how Deverelli doesn't worship any gods (which might actually be the wisest approach), explore the fascinating phrase "the word is the blood," and examine how Violet's challenge with Narelle mirrors what should have happened on Hedotis. We explore the mysterious runes on Deverelli and why some work while others don't. Why does Violet feel the urge to weave runes when entering Deverelli's airspace? And what's the deal with those crossbolts that can supposedly kill dragons without magic? Something doesn't add up!Our investigation takes an intriguing turn when we discuss Courtlyn's collection of magical artifacts. Why would the ruler of an isle without magic be collecting magical amplifiers like the Aemilian Citrine? What does it mean that he's called "keeper of the troth"? And what exactly was the bargain between Courtlyn and Fen Riorson?We round out the episode with a fascinating look at the vibrant waters surrounding Deverelli compared to its muted land colors, and contrast this with Hedotis's strange aquaphobia. Could there be magic in the water that Deverelli understands but Hedotis fears?In our wildest precog corner yet, we theorize about a mysterious study on Venin subjects removed from source magic. Could there be a connection between this study and the isles? And what does it mean that there were at least 46 different test groups? The implications are chilling!We wrap up with our current reads - Ronnie's devouring Sarah J. Maas's Crescent City series and can't put it down, while Abby's halfway through A Court of Thorns and Roses and has thoughts about Tamlin, Lucien, and why the fandom exploded from this series.Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)Follow us on social media:Instagram TikTokYouTubeDiscordEmail us your questions and theories at dragonsinthedetailspod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you!Please remember to rate, subscribe, and review! We really appreciate it!#onyxstorm #ironflame #fourthwing #violetsorrengail #xadenriorson #rebeccayarros #fantasy #podcast #bookstagram #romantasy #empyrean #rebeccayaros #book #booklover #bookstagram #booktok #bookpodcast #bookpodcasts #irid #romantasy #romantasybooks #deverelli #hedotis #courtlyn #narelle #venin #gods #islesTime Stamps:00:00 - 01:27: Intro and Diet Coke discourse01:28 - 02:52: Episode overview and disclaimers02:53 - 04:16: Favorite Deverelli moments04:17 - 05:59: Xaden's last moment of peace06:00 - 12:26: Is Deverelli the true Isle of Wisdom?12:27 - 18:16: Narelle's three questions and their significance18:17 - 21:30: Cat's ruby necklace tangent21:31 - 28:27: Deverelli's dedication to wisdom vs. Hedotis28:28 - 33:32: Runes and their function on the isles33:33 - 38:17: Magic artifacts and Courtlyn's collection38:18 - 42:21: Crossbolts and what can kill dragons42:22 - 46:51: Courtlyn's titles and the mysterious bargain with Fen46:52 - 48:12: The mysterious italics voice48:13 - 58:34: What we're reading (Crescent City and ACOTAR)58:35 - 01:00:10: Outro and social media information