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Due South
Author: Jeff Tiberii, Leoneda Inge
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Due South is a source for news, information, and perspectives from across North Carolina and the South. It takes a panoramic view of politics, place, race, and southern culture, among other topics. The show takes deep-dives into the news - while also providing a break from the news cycle with conversations on topics ranging from food and music to arts and culture. Full episodes of Due South air weekdays at 12pm on WUNC.
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On the North Carolina News Roundup... A mass shooting in the idyllic coastal town of Southport. We learn more about the victims, and the alleged gunman. A federal government shutdown could carry on for weeks - how will NC be impacted? And a standoff over Medicaid funding continues between the governor and state legislature. Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of journalists cover the week in NC news.GuestsJay Price, Military Reporter, WUNCBenjamin Schachtman, news director, WHQR WilmingtonBryan Anderson, freelance reporter, creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletterClaudia Rivera Cotto, Political Reporter, Enlace Latino NCMichael Hewlett, staff writer for The Assembly who concentrates on criminal justiceReuben Jones, Washington reporter covering North Carolina, Spectrum News
0:01:00How the government shutdown is impacting NCWith what could be a lengthy federal government shutdown underway, we chat with a DC-based North Carolina reporter, about some of the local impacts of the work and service stoppages.Danielle Battaglia, Capitol Hill correspondent, The News & Observer/The Charlotte Observer/McClatchy0:13:00New UNC School of Law report examines patchwork of crime legislation in all 50 states.Republican state lawmakers in North Carolina passed a wide-ranging crime bill that now sits on Governor Stein’s desk. It follows the fatal stabbing of Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, a brutal murder that garnered national attention and stoked political rhetoric around crime and punishment. State legislatures across the country have passed laws aimed at improving public safety. But how much impact does legislation have on addressing crime? A report from UNC School of Law finds that more severe criminal laws and punishments do not bring down crime.Carissa Byrne Hessick, professor of law at UNC School of Law0:33:00Louisiana zydeco and Memphis soul meld in Marcella Simien’s musical journey back homeOn her latest album, Marcella Simien plays piano, harmonium, accordion, guitar, and drums, to name just a few. Bringing a wide range of instruments and musical traditions together is her special sauce. From her Creole roots and Zydeco-infused upbringing in Louisiana to the soul music in her new home of Memphis, Simien weaves together new sounds, while staying true to her heritage. Simien will be performing with Chicago-based fiddle player and singer-songwriter Anne Harris on October 3rd in Durham as the duo “Magnolias”-- part of PLAYlist, a free concert series presented by Durham Central Park and WNCU 90.7FM. Ahead of that performance, she sat down for an interview with Due South’s Leoneda Inge.Marcella Simien, singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist
0:01:00Riverside High School grad Wildin Acosta discusses new book about his 2016 deportation caseIn 2016, Wildin Acosta, a senior at Riverside High School in Durham, was detained by ICE agents on his way to school. The Honduras native was kept in detention for months. Students and faculty at Riverside raised media attention about his case through protests, social media campaigns and news coverage, ultimately resulting in his release. Riverside journalism teacher Bryan Christopher worked with Acosta to write a new book about Acosta’s experience.Wildin Acosta, Riverside High School graduate, who faced deportation as a studentBryan Christopher, author of Stopping the Deportation Machine: One Immigrant Student’s Arrest and the Kids Who Took on Washington to Get Him BackAaron Sanchez Guerra, WUNC’s race, class and communities reporter0:33:00Novant Health marks the success of four Michael Jordan Family Clinics in Charlotte and WilmingtonNorth Carolina ranks tenth in the nation among states with the most uninsured residents. Winston-Salem-based health system Novant Health is working to address this, with the help of NBA legend Michael Jordan. Novant has opened four Michael Jordan Family Clinics since 2019, two in Charlotte and two in Wilmington.Dr. Michael Hoben, family physician and Chief Medical Officer Population Health Services at Novant Health
0:01:00Leoneda Inge chats with Dr. Bernice King, the youngest child of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, to discuss her family’s legacy, her work as a social justice strategist and the work of the Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Change amid a changing political climate.Dr. Bernice King, strategist, peace advocate and CEO of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Center for Nonviolent Social Change0:33:00Leoneda Inge talks to the Greensboro native Daphne Fama about her debut gothic horror novel, House of Monstrous Women. The novel is set in the Philippines in 1986 and draws on Fama’s childhood experiences of listening to Filipino folklore. She talks about the experience of crafting the book, including researching black magic in the Philippines.Daphne Fama, author of “House of Monstrous Women”
Twenty years ago, the old-time string band Carolina Chocolate Drops turned heads and wowed audiences. They were young. They were Black. And with their fiddles and banjos, they launched a movement that would challenge long-standing stereotypes about traditional music in America. Today we’re sharing a special program called “Reclaiming the Banjo” – a collaboration between WPLN in Nashville, Tennessee and WUNC’s podcast The Broadside. It’s all about a Black folk music revival sweeping the country and its deep roots in North Carolina. We follow the movement to reclaim the Black roots of folk and country music we’ll travel from a festival in our backyard all the way to the stage of the Grand Ole Opry.More from The Broadside
On the North Carolina News Roundup...Today, Due South broadcasts from Blue Ridge Public Radio in Asheville. It has been one year since Helene caused widespread destruction in Western North Carolina. One hundred and eight people died in what was the deadliest modern storm in state history, and the total damage in the region exceeded $60 billion. Co-host Jeff Tiberii talks with reporters from BPR about what happened a year ago in Western NC, and what has happened since. Also, political updates, including the crime bill sent to Governor Josh Stein's desk.Laura Hackett, Helene Recovery Reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioLilly Knoepp, Senior Regional Reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioHelen Chickering, Morning Edition Host and Reporter, Blue Ridge Public RadioDanielle Battaglia, Capitol Hill correspondent, The News & Observer/The Charlotte Observer/McClatchyMary Helen Moore, reporter, Axios Raleigh
It has been one year since Helene. We honor the first anniversary with a collection of voices and stories, from Western North Carolina. Remembering the deadliest storm in modern history and looking ahead, a year after Helene. This hour of Due South is a collection of voices of those who lived through the storm and includes reports on some of the lingering issues that face the region.Featuring:Leah Wong Ashburn, President/CEO Highland BrewingMaureen Copelof, Mayor of BrevardKevin Corbin, NC state SenatorBeth Holmes, Spruce Pine Town CouncilLilly Knoepp, Senior Regional Reporter, Blue Ridge Public Radio (BPR)Laura Hackett, Helene Recovery Reporter, Blue Ridge Public Radio (BPR)Zachary Turner, Climate Reporter, WFAEAmy Diaz, Education Reporter, WFDDKatie Meyers, Reporter, Blue Ridge Public Radio (BPR)
0:01:00NC’s future scientists may choose new paths after NIH cutsThe effort to end DEI programs across the federal government is having a range of impacts, including the future of science. Due South’s Jeff Tiberii talks with Lynn Bonner and Brandon Kingdollar of NC Newsline about their recent article titled “NC’s next generation of scientists fear careers are going ‘up in smoke’ as NIH grants end.”Lynn Bonner, Investigative Reporter, NC NewslineBrandon Kingdollar, Reporter, NC Newsline0:13:00
A Chronicle reporter investigates closure of Duke graduate student support program
A program supporting graduate students at Duke University was recently shut down. The Chronicle’s Dylan Halper asked why. Dylan talks with Leoneda Inge about reporting the story titled “School of Medicine abruptly shutters grad support program, ‘DEI’ office without warning students or faculty”. Two people directly impacted by the closure also join the conversation.Dylan Halper, University News Editor, The ChronicleJennifer Ocasio, PhD, former director of BioCoRE (Biosciences Collaborative for Research Engagement)Kavya Raghunathan, PhD candidate in cell biology, Duke University0:33:00A NC perspective on funding cuts and changing narratives at national parksToday, as we explore the local impact of the Trump administration’s efforts to dismantle DEI, we turn to our national parks. The National Park Service faces funding cuts while also grappling with the White House’s directive to move away from what it calls “divisive” ideology in telling the history of our country. Due South’s Leoneda Inge talks about national and regional impacts with Jeff Hunter of the National Parks Conservation Association.Jeff Hunter, Southern Appalachian Director, National Parks Conservation Association
0:01:00NC job growth is slow, even while unemployment rates hold steady. Just like the national economy.What the state’s most recent job numbers say about growth, and how North Carolina’s economy is doing while much of the U.S. is in a holding pattern from the global trade war.Michael Walden, William Neal Reynolds Distinguished Professor Emeritus at NC State UniversityNew study shows who got hit the worst by the 2008 recession: Low-income people of colorThe two previous recessions in the U.S. disproportionately affected specific economic and demographic groups. Future recessions could be even worse, according to a new study by economists with the liberal Economic Policy Institute.Valerie Wilson, Director, Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy at the Economic Policy InstituteIsmael Cid Martinez, economist with the Economic Policy Institute’s Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the EconomyAn ancestor’s coded journals led an NC author on a path to understand himselfJeremy Jones found the encrypted journals of his great, great, great, great grandfather, William Thomas Prestwood. After sharing some salacious stories with relatives, he dug into the journals and learned some previously unknown secrets about his ancestors.Jeremy Jones, author of the new memoir Cipher: Decoding My Ancestor’s Scandalous Secret Diaries and a professor of English Studies at Western Carolina University
0:01:00Dr. Mandy Cohen on CDC layoffs and vaccine rollbacksIn a recent New York Times op-ed, former CDC director Dr. Mandy Cohen joined several other former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention leaders to decry Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s mass layoffs, halting of research projects and changes to vaccine and immunization guidance. She joins Jeff Tiberii to discuss the present and potential of the CDC, under the Trump administration.Dr. Mandy Cohen, internal medicine physician, public health expert and former director, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention0:33:00Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People celebrates its 90th anniversaryAn influential group of Black leaders known as the Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People celebrates its 90th anniversary this year. Current committee chair Floyd McKissick Jr. Joins Due South to discuss the history of the organization, its mission and its future.Floyd McKissick Jr., former State Senator, chair of the Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People
On the North Carolina News Roundup... A look at Senator Thom Tillis’ remarks at an FBI oversight hearing this week. Early voting begins in several counties’ municipal elections. And Gov. Josh Stein requests additional Helene relief funding. Due South co-host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of journalists cover the week in NC news.Colin Campbell, Capitol Bureau Chief, WUNCDawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & ObserverGary Robertson, statehouse reporter, Associated PressClaudia Rivera Cotto, Political Reporter, Enlace Latino NC
0:01:00Raleigh City Council member Jonathan Lambert-Melton on political violence and fearRaleigh City Council member Jonathan Lambert-Melton talks with Jeff Tiberii about fear, political violence, and rhetoric in the public sphere, following the killing of Charlie Kirk. Lambert-Melton says he has cancelled a public event out of fear.Jonathan Lambert-Melton, At-Large City Council Member, Raleigh0:13:00North Carolina foliage forecast with the "Fall Color Guy’The days are getting shorter, the air is getting cooler and soon leaves across the region will change from green to brilliant reds, oranges, and yellows. Due South’s Leoneda Inge and Jeff Tiberii talk with Appalachian State University biology professor Howard “Howie” Neufeld, also known as the “Fall Color Guy,” about his fall foliage forecast, and when and where North Carolina leaf peekers are likely to get the best views.Howard “Howie” Neufeld, biology professor, Appalachian State University0:33:00Meet the Mayors series: Mayor Jerry McCrary of Parmele, NC On this edition of our “Meet the Mayors” series, Mayor Jerry McCrary of Parmele, NC talks with Due South’s Leoneda Inge about his long road back home to Martin County and his big vision for this small town. Jerry McCrary, Mayor of Parmele, NC
0:01:00NC State professor on history of political violence in the U.S.Political violence has reared its ugly head again in the United States. The killing of Charlie Kirk at a college campus in Utah last week is the latest in a string of politically motivated violent acts, which seem to be increasing in frequency.North Carolina State University’s Irwin Morris talks with Due South’s Jeff Tiberii about our country's history of political violence, what’s changed (or not) in today’s political landscape, and if inflammatory rhetoric actually has a significant role in building support for political violence.Irwin Morris, William T. Kretzer Distinguished Professor of Humanities and Executive Director, School of Public and International Affairs, NC State University0:13:00‘Spare These Stones: A Journey Through Southern Climbing Culture’A conversation with Andrew Kornylak, photographer, filmmaker, and author of Spare These Stones: A Journey Through Southern Climbing Culture. The images in the book capture physics-defying acts and scenes of extraordinary beauty. They also tell a story about perseverance, place, and the South.Andrew Kornylak, photographer, filmmaker, and author of Spare These Stones: A Journey Through Southern Climbing Culture
Data centers are in the news plenty these days. The massive homes for computer servers, cloud storage and Artificial Intelligence are in high demand. A recent analysis from NC State University and Carnegie Mellon University projects the rising number of data centers is likely to increase electric bills by an average of 8% nationally by the end of the decade. Zachery Eanes of Axios Raleigh joins Jeff Tiberii to share his reporting on data centers and rising costs, as well as the environmental and community impacts, in North Carolina. Guest: Zachery Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighEnticed by cheap energy and friendly zoning laws, crypto mining operations poured into Appalachia in recent years. But in many places, like Murphy, North Carolina, these incredibly invasive facilities quickly wore out their welcome. Now, communities across the region are trying to pull the plug on crypto, while grappling with a new challenge that presents many of the same problems: AI data centers. WUNC’s podcast The Broadside and host Anisa Khalifa take a closer look.Scientists estimate between 1.15 million and 2.41 million tons of plastic enter the world’s oceans every year, much of it carried by rivers. NC State University professor Barbara Doll joins Due South to discuss a project that tracks the travel of plastic bottles from Marsh Creek into the state’s river basins and, ultimately, into the Albemarle‑Pamlico Estuary. Guest: Barbara Doll, engineer, associate extension professor of biological and agricultural engineering at North Carolina State University, water protection and restoration specialist with the North Carolina Sea Grant
0:01:00Residential and school segregation are closely linkedIt began with the founding of the Federal Housing Administration, ongoing efforts by housing developers and well-meaning parents hoping to provide the best possible education for their small children. Leoneda Inge talks with Karen Benjamin, author of "Good Parents, Betters Homes & Great Schools: Selling Segregation Before the New Deal." This conversation originally aired August 6, 2025.Karen Benjamin, associate professor of history at Elmhurst University and author of Good Parents, Betters Homes & Great Schools: Selling Segregation Before the New Deal00:33:00The creators of 'Ear Hustle,' the first podcast produced in prisonEar Hustle is the first podcast produced in prison. It’s brought stories from life inside to international audiences. It’s been a finalist for two Pulitzer Prizes. Jeff Tiberii talks with the creators, Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, during their live tour this summer. This conversation originally aired August 6, 2025.Earlonne Woods, co-host of the Ear Hustle Podcast, which he started while serving 31 years to life at San Quentin State Prison in 2017Nigel Poor, visual artist and co-host of Ear Hustle
Violence is at the forefront of American politics: Charlie Kirk killed at an on-campus rally in Utah. Iryna Zarutska, murdered on a train in Charlotte. North Carolina elected officials respond, and our panel offers perspective.GuestsDawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief, The News & ObserverBryan Anderson, freelance reporter, creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletterZachery Eanes, reporter, Axios RaleighEly Portillo, executive editor, WFAE in Charlotte
ICE enforcement in North Carolina has led to fear and caution across immigrant communities. Businesses and event organizers that rely on the robust participation of Latino communities are expressing economic concerns. Guest: Aaron Sanchez-Guerra, race, class and communities reporter, WUNCIn 1986, NC State basketball star Chris Washburn was a first round draft pick in the NBA. His career would be cut short by a drug addiction he would go on to battle for years. Today, Washburn’s recovery has led him to become a motivational speaker and entrepreneur, based in Hickory, NC – his hometown. Guests: Chris Washburn, former NBA player, entrepreneur and author of the new book, “Out of Bounds: The Chris Washburn Story, from Broken NBA Dreams to Redemption," Ron Chepesiuk, co-author of “Out of Bounds: The Chris Washburn Story, from Broken NBA Dreams to Redemption”A fictionalized stage play about a Black heavyweight champion’s quest to become Heavyweight Champion of the World is debuting at PlayMakers Repertory Company this fall. The Royale follows the story of a boxer grappling with the broader implications of his personal dream to become the first Black world title-holder in boxing. Guests: Galen Ryan Kane, lead actor, and Ray Anthony Thomas, supporting actor in The Royale at PlayMakers Repertory Company
0:01:00WUNC’s ‘Education 101’ series and navigating K-12 school optionsAs the school year gets underway, some parents may already be thinking about next year. With the Triangle region’s array of traditional public schools, magnet programs, and charters, as well as a large number of private schools, the local educational landscape can be confusing.WUNC education reporter Liz Schlemmer talks to Due South about an upcoming event “Navigate Your K-12 Options,” part of WUNC’s Education 101 series explaining how education works in North Carolina.Liz Schlemmer, education reporter, WUNC0:13:00Is North Carolina’s civics education working?The school year is just getting into full swing for most North Carolina students. North Carolina's public high school students must meet a civics requirement to graduate, but is NC’s civics education actually making engaged citizens who understand how government works and how to participate in our democracy?Reporter Sarah Michels recently wrote a three-part investigative series for Carolina Public Press on civics education in North Carolina called “Civics Unlearned.” She joins co-host Jeff Tiberii, along with a panel of guests, to talk about civic engagement and education.Sarah Michels, staff writer for Carolina Public Press specializing in coverage of North Carolina politics and electionsSunshine Hillygus, Professor of Political Science and Public Policy, Duke UniversityBrandon Rivers, Executive Director, Charlotte Democracy CenterJeffrey Fuss, social studies teacher, Enloe Magnet High School in Raleigh
Today on Due South, a conversation with Ted Shaw, a law professor and director of the UNC Center for Civil Rights who once led the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and argued cases in front of the Supreme Court. Shaw talks with Leoneda Inge about the battles he fought then and the resonance they have now, and about his deep connection to civil rights legal legend Thurgood Marshall.Then, Leoneda talks with the director and an executive producer of the new PBS documentary “Becoming Thurgood” – about the life and immense impact of the civil rights attorney turned U.S. Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall.Theodore “Ted” M. Shaw, the Julius L. Chambers Distinguished Professor of Law, and Director of the UNC Center for Civil Rights, at the UNC School of LawAlexis Aggrey, Director and Producer, “Becoming Thurgood: America's Social Architect”Travis Mitchell, Executive Producer, “Becoming Thurgood: America's Social Architect”
0:01:00Chapel Hill’s Mediterranean Deli stages a comeback, two years after fireMediterranean Deli plans a reopening – more than two years after a fire burned one of the area’s most well-known and loved restaurants. Leoneda Inge talks with the owner about the community’s support. This conversation originally aired February 26, 2025.Jamil Kadoura, owner of Mediterranean Deli in Chapel Hill0:13:00UNC professor on the birth, growth and complications of the “pronatalism” movement“Pronatalism” has been in the news lately, in part due to high profile leaders embracing the idea. UNC sociologist Karen Guzzo talks about a movement gaining momentum that could have an impact on federal policy impacting women and families. This conversation originally aired June 16, 2025.Karen Guzzo, Professor in the Department of Sociology and Director of the Carolina Population Center, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill



