EV Café Takeaway

In another live-recorded episode, Paul and John sit down with Sarah Gray, Head of Zero Emission Vehicle Strategy & Development at Dawsongroup Vans.   We talk about: - Falling into the automotive world and never looking back   - Overcoming redundancy and imposter syndrome with the help of a business coach   - Supporting fleets on their transition to electric vans   - The real challenges of productivity and charging infrastructure for commercial EVs   - Dawson Group’s bold investment in renewable energy, solar canopies, and large-scale charging solutions   - The importance of confidence-building, collaboration, and thinking outside the box   Sarah’s passion for helping fleets decarbonise, coupled with her infectious energy, makes this a must-listen for anyone navigating the road to zero-emission transport. And yes, the episode wraps with the EV Café magic wand tradition (or is it a 2 by 4?) ### Sarah Gray (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-gray-aa62a92/ ### Dawnsongroup Vans https://www.dawsongroupvans.co.uk

From lasers bound for Mars to leading the charge in EV infrastructure, Zaptec’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. In this week’s episode, Paul and Sarah sit down with Michael Braybrook to explore how a company that once supported NASA pivoted to become one of the few profitable EV hardware manufacturers in the world.   Michael shares:   The fascinating origin story of Zaptec, from space technology to smart EV charging.   Insights on V2G (Vehicle-to-Grid) and how it can unlock free driving and a smarter energy ecosystem.   The launch of the Zaptec Go 2, a future-proof, beautifully designed home charger that’s V2G-ready, solar-integrated, and built for long-term reliability.   His leadership philosophy, rooted in empathy, resilience, and creative problem-solving, and how he’s building a passionate UK team to accelerate the zero-emission future.   If you’ve ever wondered how EV charging fits into a cleaner, more cost-effective energy system—or how a company can make sustainability both practical and profitable—this episode is packed with value.   Michael Braybrook (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/braybrook/ Zaptec UK https://www.zaptec.com

In this special live-recorded episode of The EV Café Takeaway, we sit down with Nigel Allsop, Fleet Account Director for BT, who manages one of the UK’s largest and most complex fleets—over 36,000 vehicles and 5,000 company cars. Nigel shares the inside story of BT and Openreach’s journey to net zero by 2030, including how they’ve already electrified 5,500 vehicles, predominantly vans, and the strategy behind prioritising commercial EVs first.   Join us as we explore:   The unique challenges of electrifying a diverse fleet of 72 vehicle types with 172 racking configurations.   How data, telematics, and behavioural change are key to tackling range anxiety and winning hearts and minds internally.   The role of collaboration across the industry and why partnerships are critical for infrastructure and operational success.   Nigel’s personal reflections on leadership, resilience, and staying inquisitive when tackling one of the toughest transitions in fleet management.   From EV testing with sandbags to navigating rural charging challenges, and from the politics of net zero to the human side of managing change, this episode is packed with insights for fleet managers, sustainability leaders, and anyone invested in the future of zero-emission transport. Nigel Allsop (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigel-allsop-a52509a1/

Did you know that 1 in 4 EVs currently bought are for Motability Operations? Neither did Paul Kirby! Join Paul and John (aka W.C.) as they sit down with Lisa Thomas—Chief Marketing Officer at Motability Operations—the organisation behind the life‑changing Motability Scheme.   Lisa shares the incredible story of how Motability Operations supports over 800,000 drivers across the UK, providing affordable, accessible vehicles that unlock freedom, independence, and opportunity. From drive‑from‑wheelchair vans to pioneering EV adoption for disabled users, Lisa explains how the scheme is transforming lives while driving the transition to zero‑emission transport.   Topics include:   The life‑changing impact of the Motability Scheme for people and their families   Overcoming public misconceptions and addressing the tiny fraction of misuse cases   Leading the EV transition with 100,000+ electric vehicles already on fleet   Innovative accessibility projects like cross‑pavement charging and the Evita concept vehicle   Lisa’s personal journey through creative leadership, marketing, and purpose‑driven work   Why empathy, partnership, and community are at the heart of Motability Operations   From emotional customer stories to future‑facing EV strategy, this conversation shines a light on one of the UK’s most impactful and forward‑thinking organisations.   Lisa Thomas https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-thomas-2858598 Motability Operations https://www.mo.co.uk (Discussed) eVITA concept vehicle https://callumdesigns.com/motability-evita (Discussed) Motability Scheme Live https://motabilityschemelive.co.uk (Discussed) Kia PB5 https://www.kia.com/uk/pbv/premiere/

In this special live-recorded episode of The EV Café Takeaway, Paul and John sit down at Fleet & Mobility Live with Stuart Murphy, Head of Fleet Transformation at Royal Mail, to explore how one of the UK’s most iconic organisations is delivering a cleaner, zero-emission future.   Stuart shares his journey from growing up in the Royal Mail family to leading one of the largest electric fleet transformations in the country. With over 8,000 electric vans already on the road – and 50,000 vehicles to electrify – his team is proving that EVs aren’t just cleaner, they’re more reliable and cost-effective for the business, too. In this episode, you’ll discover:   How Royal Mail is tackling the complex challenge of electrifying a diverse fleet that delivers to 32 million addresses – from city streets to remote islands.   Why EVs outperform diesel for stop-start postal routes and dramatically reduce maintenance headaches.   Stuart’s people-first approach to leading 26,000 drivers through change, turning sceptics into enthusiastic EV advocates.   The organisation’s first steps into electric HGVs, depot charging, and the potential for future charger sharing.   Personal insights into Stuart’s leadership, resilience, and what drives him to care so deeply about the mission.   Whether you’re running a fleet, exploring electrification, or just love hearing from passionate leaders shaping a sustainable future, this episode is packed with candid stories and practical lessons.   🎧 Listen now to hear how Royal Mail is delivering zero-emission innovation, one red vehicle at a time.   Stuart Murphy https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-murphy-4400a547

Chris Demetriou, (Assistant Director of Corporate Fleet, Transport and Accessible Community Transport at Islington Borough Council) has spent over 24 years in the public sector and now leads one of the UK’s most ambitious local authority fleet decarbonisation programmes.   Chris shares his journey from a two-week temp job to becoming a driving force behind Islington’s transition to electric vehicles, with over 140 EVs in operation and innovative vehicle-to-grid (V2G) trials underway. He opens up about the challenges of electrifying large municipal fleets, from refuse trucks to community transport buses, and why collaboration and infrastructure sharing between councils is critical for resilience and improved air quality.   Beyond the technology, Chris speaks passionately about air quality, mental health, and resilience, drawing on his own experiences with asthma, running 11 miles to work daily, and leading by example in the fight for a zero-emission future.   If you want to hear how a local authority can become a genuine pioneer in fleet electrification, and why bold leadership, persistence, and innovation matter, this episode is for you.   🎧 Listen now to discover:   The realities of transitioning a 500+ vehicle municipal fleet to electric   Lessons learned from being a “guinea pig” for first- and second-gen EVs   How V2G and microgrids could transform fleet operations   The personal drive and resilience behind public sector innovation   Chris Demetriou https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-demetriou-6a716a5a/?originalSubdomain=uk

This week, Phil Morris - Key Account Manager at Iveco on the ever-evolving world of zero and low-emission commercial vehicles.   Phil shares his journey from working in his family’s butcher shop to becoming a passionate advocate for sustainable transport solutions. He takes us behind the scenes of heavy vehicle sales, explaining the jargon of six-by-fours, fifth wheels, and CNG. We dive deep into the future of decarbonising fleets, discussing the roles of battery-electric trucks, hydrogen, CNG/LNG, and HVO, and how operators can make a real difference now—not just in 2035 or 2040.   Highlights: Demystifying truck jargon like 6x2s, 6x4s, and fifth wheels   The real-world case for CNG, HVO, and EV trucks in logistics   Why fleet operators need solutions tailored to their mission   How Iveco is driving change without compromising customer operations   Phil’s personal mission to make a lasting difference Philip Morris (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-morris-30173463/

We dive into a conversation with Paul Hollick, Chairman of the Association of Fleet Professionals (AFP) and CEO of Lightfoot.   Paul shares his journey from a young, unconfident teenager in the New Forest to a dynamic leader driving the UK fleet industry toward a zero-emission future. He opens up about:   Balancing his dual roles at AFP and Lightfoot   His passion for people, collaboration, and doing good   How driver behaviour and education are at the heart of decarbonising fleets   The importance of training, networking, and creating future-ready fleet apprenticeships   The challenges of EV adoption, including downtime and charging infrastructure   From his candid reflections on leadership and family life to his vision for the fleet industry’s apprenticeship programme, Paul’s story is packed with wisdom and purpose.   If you’re in the fleet, EV, or sustainability space—or just love hearing from people making a real impact—this episode will leave you informed and inspired.   Paul Hollick https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulhollick/ Association of Fleet Professionals (AFP) https://www.theafp.co.uk Lightfoot https://www.lightfoot.co.uk

In this inspiring episode of The EV Café Takeaway Podcast, we welcome Michelle Breffitt, co-founder of Women Drive Electric, the thriving community dedicated to helping women confidently make the switch to electric vehicles.   Michelle shares her journey from starting in the automotive world as a teenager to becoming a leading advocate for inclusivity, EV adoption, and authentic conversations around driving electric. She opens up about:   Building a 5,000+ strong community of women / female-identifying people How unconscious bias and intimidating dealership environments still affect women’s car-buying experiences.   The types of real-world EV questions women ask—from charging solutions and range to family-friendly road-trip tips.   Why creating safe, supportive spaces leads to better engagement and industry change.   Join hosts Paul and John for a conversation that is equal parts insightful, funny, and motivating—spotlighting how collaboration between communities, allies, and the wider EV industry can accelerate positive change.   Michelle Breffitt https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-breffitt-automotive-professional/ George Thurman https://www.linkedin.com/in/wde⚡%EF%B8%8F/ Woman Drive Electric website https://womendriveelectric.co.uk Michelle’s book recommendations: The Authority Gap https://www.amazon.co.uk/Authority-Gap-women-still-seriously/dp/1784165883/ Invisible Women https://www.amazon.co.uk/Invisible-Women-Exposing-World-Designed/dp/1784706280/ref=asc_df_1784706280 If you want to see the automotive world become more inclusive, informed, and electrified—this episode is for you.  

Paul and John sit down with the unstoppable Evelyn Tourish, Customer Experience Director at Europcar Mobility Group UK. With 32 years at Europcar, Evelyn shares her journey from rental sales agent to leading the company’s customer experience and spearheading the electrification of their UK network. Her passion for EV adoption, customer care, and building resilient teams shines through as she talks about:   How Europcar is driving the transition to electric vehicles 🚗⚡   Creating a frictionless, digital-first customer experience   The resilience and tenacity needed to thrive through industry challenges   Winning two consecutive Gold Awards for customer experience innovation   Why caring for customers and colleagues is at the heart of everything she does   Evelyn Tourish https://www.linkedin.com/in/evelyn-tourish-16929824/ Europcar Mobility Group https://www.europcar-mobility-group.com

Paul and John sit down with Stephen Briers, the highly respected Group Editor for Fleet News, AM, and Rail at Bauer Media. Stephen brings a wealth of insight into journalism, industry objectivity, and the fast-moving world of fleet electrification.   We Explore Stephen’s journey from humble beginnings to leading Bauer’s B2B automotive titles.   The responsibility of journalism in a rapidly changing transport landscape.   How to balance objectivity with passion when covering EVs and decarbonisation.   Behind-the-scenes of Fleet Mobility Live and why it’s one of the industry’s must-attend events.   The future of fleet electrification, government clarity, and why van adoption is the next big frontier.   Plus, Stephen takes on the EV Café Magic Wand Challenge, wishing for the breakthroughs our industry needs most (and a little help for Bristol Rovers along the way!).   If you’re passionate about sustainable transport, fleet management, and the people shaping the EV revolution, this episode is packed with insight, honesty, and a few laughs.   🎧 Listen now for industry wisdom, magic wand wishes, and why Fleet News’ newsletter is a must-read for every fleet professional.   Stephen Briers https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-briers-b1986415/ Fleet News https://www.fleetnews.co.uk Bauer Media Group https://www.bauermedia.com Fleet & Mobility Live https://fleetandmobilitylive.com

This week JC and Sara (stepping in with her best Paul Kirby impression!) are joined by the brilliant Chris Bunce, Network Sales Manager for Iveco’s Light Business Line in the UK and Ireland.   Chris takes us behind the job title to share a refreshingly open and often hilarious conversation about:   His 30-year journey through the motor trade, from Yellow Pages cold calls to leading network sales at Iveco.   The delicate transition from diesel to electric, the challenges for dealer networks, and why education and driver engagement are critical to EV adoption.   Iveco’s innovative line-up, including the E-Daily with its electric power take-off (EPTO) and the incoming Jolly and Super Jolly models.   The importance of people-first leadership, mentoring, and building a legacy for the next generation in the commercial vehicle industry.   Life lessons from football, cricket, golf—and raising a family of four with six grandchildren!   From heartfelt reflections on resilience and mental health to light-hearted tales of EV rallies, strongman brand ambassador Adam Bishop, and even Driving Miss Daisy moments on the M40, this episode is packed with insight, humour, and inspiration.   If you love stories that go beyond the job title and showcase the humans powering the EV revolution, this one’s for you.   Chris Bunce (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-bunce-53972080 Iveco https://www.iveco.com/uk/

This week, Paul and John are joined by Andreas Blin, Director Segments and Partnerships - CPOs, Fuel&Convenience and Solution Partners at ChargePoint, and self-proclaimed enabler of the electric mobility revolution.   Andreas takes us on a journey from his early career in plastics and cheese-making machinery (yes, really!) to becoming a passionate leader in the EV charging industry. He shares how he found purpose in electrifying transport, his philosophy of understanding the “core” of complex problems, and why he believes caring about customers is the ultimate superpower in business.   Highlights include:  🎸 Andreas’ creative side, from restoring a vintage Fender Stratocaster to handcrafting “Chargie” awards in his basement   🌲 Life lessons from managing a family forest and silently exploring nature on an electric quad   ⚡ The critical role of back-end software for Charge Point Operators and why getting it right can make or break a business   💡 His one magic wish for the EV world: that everyone approach their next car purchase with an open mind   Tune in now to meet one of the warmest and most thoughtful voices in e-mobility.   Andreas Blin (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreasblin/ ChargePoint https://www.chargepoint.com/

This week we welcome Tim Morris, the newly appointed Marketing Director for UK & Ireland at Europcar. From swapping petrol-guzzling BMW M5s for sleek electric vehicles to navigating the challenges of parenthood, Tim's journey is as dynamic as the EV revolution itself.   🚙 What’s Inside?   Europcar’s Electric Evolution: Hear how Europcar is leading the charge with an impressive percentage of its UK fleet now fully electric or plug-in hybrid, and why price parity with ICE vehicles is a game-changer.   Banter & Behind-the-Scenes: Inappropriate jokes? Check. Stories from EV rallies? Double-check. Discover what makes Europcar’s culture—and Tim—so special.   Driving Customer Change: Learn how Europcar’s bold initiatives, like their EV Assist Tool and partnerships with Octopus Electroverse, are breaking down EV adoption barriers.   Personal Stories: Tim reveals the joys and chaos of fatherhood, his love for golf (despite the scores), and how he’s learned to navigate life and leadership through trial and error. The Magic Wand Moment: If Tim could change one thing? 🎯 Why Listen?   Whether you're an EV enthusiast, a sustainability advocate, or just here for the banter, this episode serves up thoughtful insights, hearty laughs, and a dash of inspiration.   👉 Don’t Miss Out:   Check out Europcar’s EV offerings at evcafe.org/partners/europcar and connect with Tim on LinkedIn for more industry insights.  

This week we’re joined by Faizan Ahmed, Decarbonisation Programme Director at First Bus, one of the UK’s largest bus operators. Faizan shares his inspiring journey steering First Bus towards a zero-emission future with bold ambitions, including a fleet of over 1,200 zero-emission buses—on track to hit 1,500 by next year! We dive into: 🌍Decarbonisation ambitions: The roadmap to a zero-emission commercial bus fleet by 2035.   🔌 Shared Charging Innovation: How First Bus has quietly built one of the UK’s largest rapid charging networks—at jaw-dropping rates (only 39p/kWh in Glasgow!).   🚀 Hydrogen & Electric Synergy: Lessons from First Bus’s hydrogen projects and why electric is leading the charge.   🤖 AI in Transport: How artificial intelligence is revolutionising bus scheduling for efficiency and reliability.   💡 Personal Reflections: Faizan shares life lessons, including career pivots, embracing failure, and the mindset that fuels his passion for sustainability.   Plus, Faizan picks up the EV Café Magic Wand to reveal his wish for the future of charging infrastructure. 🎧 Listen now on evcafe.org, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.   🔗 Connect with Faizan Ahmed and learn about First Charge here.

This week - Vicky Edmonds, CEO of EVA England. Vicky shares her journey from the halls of government, where she played a pivotal role in shaping transport decarbonisation policy, to leading EVA England in amplifying the voice of EV drivers across the UK. 🚗 What’s in this episode? Vicky’s interesting career shift from zoology to EV advocacy  The critical role of EVA England in representing EV drivers  Tackling payment anxiety and the ongoing challenges with EV charging infrastructure  The importance of accessibility, affordability, and grid connections in the EV transition  Insights into government policy, industry collaboration, and public education  A heartfelt reflection on Vicky’s passion for sustainability and leadership  🌍 Key Takeaways:  The EV transition isn’t just about cars; it’s about people.  Why driver-centric solutions are key to mass EV adoption.  The need for better education, consistent policy, and industry cooperation to solve real-world EV challenges.  Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and join EVA England to support the voice of EV drivers! 👉 Connect with Vicky Edmunds and EVA England:  LinkedIn EVA England Website EVA England’s socials: EVA England on LinkedIn EVA England on Instagram EVA England on Facebook EVA England on Threads

This week we’re joined by the legendary Tim Campbell from Campbell’s Consultancy—a true pioneer in the world of commercial vehicle decarbonisation. Known for his encyclopaedic knowledge of trucks and vans, Tim shares insights from his global journey exploring electrification, including eye-opening experiences from China’s commercial vehicle shows. We dive deep into:  🚚 The evolution of electrification in heavy trucks   ⚡ The challenges operators face in starting their EV journey   🌍 Decarbonisation vs. electrification—what’s the real goal?   📊 TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) and why it’s key for fleet operators   🍏 A surprising side hustle—Tim’s sustainable orchard and apple juice production! Plus, we hand Tim the EV Café magic wand to grant one industry-changing wish. His answer might just inspire you. Whether you’re a fleet manager, EV enthusiast, or just curious about the future of transport, this episode is packed with knowledge, passion, and a dash of fun. 🔗 Get in touch with Tim at Campbell’s Consultancy   📞 Call him directly: 0776 999 1918 Listen now and join the charge towards a zero-emission future! ⚡

In this deeply inspiring episode, Paul and John are joined by Tom Pearson, Commercial Director at CPD Bodies, one of the UK’s leading commercial vehicle converters. Tom shares CPD’s bold journey from a small business to a thriving medium-sized enterprise, fuelled by sustainable practices, innovative systems, and people-driven growth.   🚛 What’s in this episode?   CPD’s sustainability strategy, including a 100% solar-powered EV workshop   Tackling industry myths around EVs: infrastructure, costs, and tech evolution   Tom’s personal passion for sustainability The power of collaboration with key industry associations like VBRA & HAE   🌟 A Candid Conversation:   Tom opens up about his personal journey, discussing his experiences with autism and ADHD, leadership lessons from sports and life, and the importance of mental health. His heartfelt reflections on mentorship, personal growth, and creating meaningful impact will resonate far beyond the EV industry.   🗣️ “This is more than a podcast. It’s a genuine connection with a leader whose story will inspire you.” – John  Curtis CPD Bodies https://cpdbodies.com Tom Pearson (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasgpearson/

This week we are joined by the dynamic Jack Cousens, Head of Roads Policy at the AA. Known for his appearances on BBC Travel News and transport reports, Jack shares his journey from local politics to becoming the voice of the motorist at one of Britain's most trusted motoring organisations. What’s Covered?   Behind the Scenes at the AA: Discover the dual role Jack plays – from being the AA’s media spokesperson to shaping critical road policies.   Road Safety Matters: A deep dive into the AA’s latest seatbelt campaigns, uncovering alarming statistics around young drivers and the behavioural shifts needed.   Electric Vehicles & the Transition: Jack shares how the AA is leading from the front, with EVs in their own fleet, supporting the move towards a zero-emission future.   Future of Motoring: Autonomous vehicles, speed regulations, and ethical dilemmas in road safety – Jack’s bold take on what lies ahead.   Magic Wand Moment: If Jack had one wish, what would it be? 🎧 Tune in on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or watch us on YouTube.   💛 Not an AA member yet? Learn more about how they support millions of motorists at theaa.com.   🌍 For more episodes, visit theevcafe.org and follow us on LinkedIn for the latest updates.   “It’s not just about driving—it’s about keeping everyone on the road safe.” 🚘✨ Jack Cousens (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-cousens/ The AA https://www.theaa.com

This week Paul and John are joined by the dynamic Sarah Papamichalis, Head of Product at Milence, a trailblazing company revolutionising EV charging for heavy-duty vehicles across Europe. Sarah dives into: 🚚 Milence's mission to decarbonise road freight by building Europe-wide electric truck charging corridors. 🌍 Her personal sustainability journey—from biking to work for 25 years in Amsterdam to her passion for reducing environmental impact. 🤝 The importance of authentic leadership, building resilient teams, and creating inclusive workplaces. 📈 How Milence is offering affordable, driver-friendly charging hubs with flat-rate pricing (yes, sensible rates!) and top-notch amenities. ⚡ Plus, her magic wand wish: "User-centric legislation" to simplify EV charging experiences and cut through regulatory red tape. We were inspired by Sarah’s authenticity, resilience, and drive to make the EV world a better place—one charging hub at a time. Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your podcasts. Sarah Papamichalis (LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahpapamichalis/ Milence https://milence.com