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Jared Sorge stops by to chat about Arborist, his native Mac command center for Git work trees. We get into running agents in parallel with work trees, when to drop from SwiftUI down to AppKit, and selling a Mac app outside the App Store with Sparkle, Stripe, and RevenueCat, and somehow end up talking about the iPhone Duo.GuestJared SorgeJared Sorge (@[email protected]) - Mastodonjsorge (Jared Sorge)Jared Sorge | LinkedInJared Sorge (@jsorge) • ThreadsArborist - A native macOS command center for Git repositories and worktreesTaphouse SoftwareRelated LinksArboristBaseplate - Track your LEGO collectionTower - Git clientNova - Panicmise - dev tools, env vars, task runnerjust - a handy way to save and run project-specific commandsswift-subprocess - GitHubSparkle - Software update framework for macOSRevenueCatManaged Payments - Stripe DocumentationSQLiteData - Point-Free - GitHubSharing - Point-Free - GitHubSwift Navigation - Point-Free - GitHubIntroducing Claude Design by Anthropic Labs - AnthropicMac-Assed Mac Apps - Daring FireballTuistXcodeGen - GitHubShipaton 2026 - RevenueCatSwiftConiOSDevUKBushel - Mac virtualization for developersRelated EpisodesPractical Agents with Donny WalsEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe FabisevichThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 2 with Ben ScheirmanThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 1 with Ben ScheirmanmacOS Indie Deep Cuts with Aaron VeghMac Dev in 2021 with Daniel JalkutHow to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 1Automation Fun with Jared SorgeChapters(00:00) - Why Work Trees (06:56) - The Idea Behind Arborist (11:14) - SwiftUI vs. AppKit (17:05) - Picking the Right Tool for the Job (21:27) - From Problem to Product (25:30) - Shipping Outside the Mac App Store (29:59) - Licensing, Sandboxing & Subprocess (36:30) - Agentic Coding & the Product Engineer (45:17) - What's Next for Arborist WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters Steven Lipton Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Saleem Abdulrasool joins us to chat about bringing Swift to Windows. We get into server-side Swift, SwiftWin32, Swift's C++ interop, and how to get started yourself.GuestSaleem Abdulrasoolcompnerd (Saleem Abdulrasool)Saleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd) - FosstodonSaleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd) / XRelated LinksPorting by a 1000 Patches: Bringing Swift to Windows (2019 LLVM Developers' Meeting) - YouTubeSwift/Win32 - A Windows application framework for Swift - GitHubSwift/COM+ - GitHubSwift/WinMD - Windows Metadata Parser in Swift - GitHubSwift/WinRT - Swift Projections for WinRT - GitHubDXSample - Sample Program for DirectX 12 + Swift - GitHubvigil - A caffeinate-inspired power management tool for Windows - GitHubswift-winrt - Swift Language Projection for WinRT - The Browser Companyswift-winui - Swift Language Bindings for WinUI3 - The Browser CompanyInstall Swift on Windows - Swift.orgRelated EpisodesWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosDeconstructing Xcode with xTool with Kabir OberaiFull Stack Things with Werner Jainek and Vojtěch RylkoSwift on Android with Marc Prud'hommeauxSwift, Server Side, Serverless with Sébastien StormacqSwift Server Workgroup with Joannis OrlandosSwift Package Index with Dave Verwer and Sven SchmidtBackend Decisions with Mikaela CaronChapters(00:00) - Why Swift on Windows (08:40) - Command Line Tools, PowerShell & WSL (16:35) - Server-Side Swift & Building Desktop Apps (24:46) - The History of Windows UI Frameworks (33:15) - Getting Started with Swift on Windows (41:32) - Interop, SwiftUI & Future Plans WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Donny Wals returns to talk through a year of agentic coding. We go through how it's changed his architecture decisions, reviewing PRs he didn't write himself, managing tasks and context across parallel agents, and the gym-workout crash he fixed from his phone mid-set — plus where he still doesn't trust the agent: SwiftData migrations.GuestDonny WalsDonny Wals 👾 (@donnywals.bsky.social) — BlueskyDonny Wals 👾 (@DonnyWals) / XDonny Wals (@donnywalsdev) • Instagram photos and videosdonny wals - YouTubeDonny Wals (@[email protected]) - chaos.socialDonny Wals | LinkedInRelated LinksCursor - https://cursor.comBitrise - https://bitrise.ioNotion - https://notion.soRaycast - https://raycast.comGrill with Docs - https://www.aihero.dev/grill-with-docsMaxine - One Rep Max Tracker (Donny's workout app) - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/maxine-one-rep-max-tracker/id6615073254GRDB.swift - https://github.com/groue/GRDB.swiftSundialKit (Leo's watch communication library) - https://github.com/brightdigit/SundialKitFluent (Vapor's ORM) - https://docs.vapor.codes/fluent/overview/NSPersistentCloudKitContainer - https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coredata/nspersistentcloudkitcontainerPractical Core Data - https://practicalcoredata.comPractical Combine - https://practicalcombine.comPractical Swift Concurrency - https://practicalswiftconcurrency.comRelated EpisodesIndependence UpdateEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe Fabisevich120% Likely with Cihat GündüzPlatforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter WithamActually Really UsefulPractical Year - Part 2 with Donny WalsPractical Year - Part 1 with Donny WalsPractical Entrepreneur with Donny WalsPractical Combine with Donny WalsChapters(00:00) - The Agentic Coding Shift (15:55) - The Gym Crash Story (20:54) - Architecting for Agents (34:04) - Task & Issue Tracking (37:40) - Core Data vs. SwiftData WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

After almost 250 episodes, Leo gives an update on what he's working on and what he's interested in. From passive timer apps, static site generation, to sub repos and RSS feeds.Related LinksWWDC 2026 & CelestraCelestraWWDC26: What's new in the Foundation Models frameworkWWDC26: Meet Core AIBushelswift-buildbrightdigit/swift-buildIntroducing swift-build (blog post)Swift.org Nightly ToolchainsAt LeastAt Leastbrightdigit/SundialKitbrightdigit/SundialKitStreambrightdigit.com Website Upgradebrightdigit.com repoJohnSundell/PublishJohnSundell/ShellOutJohnSundell/Inkswiftlang/swift-subprocessswiftlang/swift-markdownkabiroberai/node-swift (NodeSwift)Tailwind CSSgit-subrepoingydotnet/git-subrepoBen ScheirmanCommunity & OutroConsultation (ZCal)PatreonNewsletterDonny WalsSaleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd)Swift on WindowsRelated EpisodesActually Really Useful120% Likely with Cihat GündüzPlatforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter WithamWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosMilk Diary with Kaya ThomasDeconstructing Xcode with xTool with Kabir OberaiThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 2 with Ben ScheirmanThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 1 with Ben ScheirmanHacking with Ignite with Paul HudsonNow You Know What I'm Doing This SummerChapters(00:00) - WWDC 2026 and Celestra (01:35) - swift-build (02:23) - AtLeast (05:26) - brightdigit.com (05:45) - git-subrepo (06:47) - Join the Community WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Software development has changed a lot. On today's episode, Joe Fabisevich talks about building with AI without falling into the trap of "work slop," why prompting is a communication skill, where Apple fits in, and Broadcast — his new Swift logging library for developers and AI agents.GuestBuild.msJoe Fabisevich :verified: (@[email protected]) - Macaw-SocialJoe Fabisevich (@mergesort.me) — BlueskyGithub (@mergesort)https://www.threads.net/@mergesortfabisevi.chRelated LinksArtifacts | Fabisevi.chSupporting Markdown Search For LLMsAI (Without the Hype)WorkslopBeing A 1.5-10x Developermergesort/Broadcast: Simple and composable logging for Swift apps, servers, and coding agents.AtLeast — Passive Timer for Apple WatchMonthBar - Track your month's progressRelated Episodes120% Likely with Cihat GündüzPlatforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter WithamWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosActually Really UsefulPractical Year - Part 1 with Donny WalsPlinky with Joe FabisevichChatGPTovski with Kris SlazinskiChapters(00:00) - Work Slop (13:02) - Verifiable Tasks (25:51) - Building Agents (32:06) - Careers & Hiring (43:31) - Daily Setup (53:00) - WWDC 2026 (01:09:07) - AI Economics (01:20:33) - Broadcast Logging WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)