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Enneagram Mapmakers with Christopher Heuertz

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Enneagram Mapmakers explores the interior landscape of the ego through conversations with legacy teachers such as Richard Rohr, Helen Palmer and Russ Hudson. Hosted by Christopher Heuertz, author of The Sacred Enneagram and The Enneagram of Belonging, this podcast journeys to the origins of an ancient and often misunderstood system designed to help us live a more embodied and integrated life. Transcend the temptation to fixate on a specific number and discover how to embrace all types within you.
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In this bonus episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz reflects on ways to care for our own vulnerabilities, our own inner child during this time of uncertainty. Chris offers nine Enneagram type-specific guided Loving Kindness Mediations to help each of us find our center by welling up gentle compassion and radical self-acceptance for the parts of ourselves that are struggling with grief, fear, or frustration. In this heart-felt reflection Chris offers clues to coming into greater awareness of your own belovedness. The method, prompts, and Enneagram type specific Loving Kindness Mediations can be found here: https://gravitycenter.com/practice/loving-kindness/
Russ Hudson

Russ Hudson

2021-06-3001:18:18

This is the last episode of Season 1 of Enneagram Mapmakers where Chris Heuertz interviews Russ Hudson, the co-founder of the Enneagram Institute and co-author of The Wisdom of the Enneagram. Russ addresses the divide between the Enneagram of Personality and the Gurdjieffian studies of the Enneagram, his friendship and working relationship with the late Done Riso, and Russ also candidly shares his own introduction to the Enneagram and his story of mistyping himself. The show concludes with Russ reflecting on his hopes for the future of this teaching and the movement that’s grow around it.
Jack Labanauskas

Jack Labanauskas

2021-06-3001:08:57

In this episode Jack Labanauskas reflects on the evolution of the Enneagram’s modern expression through his thorough engagement with anyone who’s made a significant contribution to the system over the past 30 years. Jack offers an intimate snapshot of the very private life and mind of the late Óscar Ichazo—especially his attitude towards using the Enneagram to describe personality. Jack also offers some hope for where the tradition can go if we remain openminded and openhearted. Jack Labanauskas is the preeminent historian of the modern Enneagram of Personality. He’s been editing Enneagram Monthly for the past 25 years, creating a peer-review forum for innovative ideas to find life in conversation with the EnneaCurious.
Michael Goldberg

Michael Goldberg

2021-06-3059:40

n this episode Michael Goldberg talks about mythology and the Enneagram. He reflects on learning the Enneagram from his old neighbors, Óscar Ichazo’s Arican Institute. Michael also asserts the wings are more important than our Enneagram base point, or our dominant the, explaining this through thoughts on how movement is essential in working our Enneagram type. Michael is a writer, speaker and consultant, he is also a long time teacher of the Enneagram approach to personality types. His books include The 9 Ways of Working: How to Use the Enneagram to Discover Your Natural Strengths and Work More Effectively and his brilliant work mapping the Enneagram through Homer’s epic poem, The Odyssey in Travels with Odysseus: Uncommon Wisdom from Homer's Odyssey.
Helen Palmer

Helen Palmer

2021-06-3001:05:51

On this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris sits down with Helen Palmer. She is among the most influential Enneagram teachers and authors in the modern era of this tradition. Her first book The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and the Others In Your Life, set the standard for type descriptions and has become an international bestseller. In this episode Helen guides us in an inner witness awareness practice. Not only is this Helen’s very first podcast but her vulnerability here is inspiring as she reveals parts of her story publicly for the first time. Helen Palmer is a teacher of psychology and intuition, and a Core Faculty member of The Narrative Enneagram. In 1994, Helen and the late Dr. David Daniels co-chaired the first International Enneagram Conference at Stanford University. She is also a Founding Director of the International Enneagram Association.
Jerry Wagner

Jerry Wagner

2021-06-3001:05:37

If you are looking for credible academic research studies on the Enneagram, then you’ll love Chris’s conversation with Dr. Jerry Wagner on this week’s episode of Enneagram Mapmakers. Jerry’s wisdom reminds us that we typically view the world through lenses but usually don’t examine the lenses themselves. He’s candid and vulnerable, while provocative in untangling some of the Enneagram’s convoluted theories. Jerry Wagner is a retired teaching professor in the Department of Psychology at Loyola University, Chicago and was among the earliest students of the Enneagram in the United States. His statistically validated Wagner Enneagram Personality Style Scales (WEPPS) is one of the most reliable Enneagram tests available. He’s also the author of several books including Nine Lenses on the World: the Enneagram Perspective and The Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide.
Sandra Maitri

Sandra Maitri

2021-06-3051:41

In this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz interviews the author of The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram and The Enneagram of Passions and Virtues, Sandra Maitri. During their conversation, Sandra reflects back on the role she played as a university student in helping develop Enneagram Types with Claudio Naranjo with his first SAT groups. She also explains how the popular Enneagram theories of “integration” and “disintegration” are actually misunderstandings. Sandra Maitri is an artist, an author, and an Enneagram teacher. She was among the first group of students to whom the Chilean psychiatrist Claudio Naranjo presented the Enneagram system in the United States in the early seventies. She is currently a supervising teacher of the Diamond Approach® to Inner Realization.
Marion Gilbert

Marion Gilbert

2021-06-3001:01:01

In this second episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris interviews Marion Gilbert. In this episode they talk about what it was like for her to bring the somatic into the Enneagram conversation, how she understands type and how we can bring a 3 centered awareness to nourish our spirituality. Marion has been actively using the Enneagram system — an emotional-cognitive map of human personality structure — professionally and personally for the past 12 years. She emphasizes using somatic experience for the facilitation of personal and spiritual transformation in the Narrative Tradition Enneagram, with a specific interest in developing somatic experience in relationship to increased awareness and integration.
Richard Rohr

Richard Rohr

2021-06-2953:59

In this first episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris interviews Father Richard Rohr at his non- profit in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is the first Legacy Teacher in this season because he was one of Chris's first teachers of the Enneagram. In this episode they talk about Richard's history with the Enneagram, why he stopped teaching it and how the Enneagram has helped him move from the inner critic to the compassionate observer. Father Richard Rohr is a Franciscan Friar and the founder of The Center for Action and Contemplation, a non-profit located in Albuquerque, NM.
Introducing Enneagram Mapmakers, a podcast that explores the interior landscape of the ego through conversations with enneagram legacy teachers such as Richard Rohr, Helen Palmer, Russ Hudson and more. Hosted by Christopher Heuertz, author of The Sacred Enneagram and The Enneagram of Belonging, this podcast journeys to the origins of an ancient and often misunderstood system designed to help us live a more embodied and integrated life. Transcend the temptation to fixate on a specific number and discover how to embrace all types within you. Coming March 24th, 2020 from the Center for Action and Contemplation. Special thanks to Ryan O'Neal for the music to this show.
Russ Hudson

Russ Hudson

2020-06-0201:18:051

This is the last episode of Season 1 of Enneagram Mapmakers where Chris Heuertz interviews Russ Hudson, the co-founder of the Enneagram Institute and co-author of The Wisdom of the Enneagram. Russ addresses the divide between the Enneagram of Personality and the Gurdjieffian studies of the Enneagram, his friendship and working relationship with the late Done Riso, and Russ also candidly shares his own introduction to the Enneagram and his story of mistyping himself. The show concludes with Russ reflecting on his hopes for the future of this teaching and the movement that’s grow around it. This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org
Beatrice Chestnut

Beatrice Chestnut

2020-05-2601:10:15

In this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz interviews Beatrice Chestnut the author of The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge. Bea’s breath-taking vulnerability about the loss of a dear friend offers a rare glimpse into what’s shaped her deep compassion she’s known for today. Bea also honors the late Dr. David Daniels by reflecting on the significance of his legacy. In this episode, Beatrice sets forth a challenge to all Enneagram teachers and practitioners to cultivate best practices to remain accountable and grounded in this work. But the highlights of this conversation focus on Bea’s work clearing up the nuances often misunderstood in the Enneagram’s Instincts and Subtypes theories. Beatrice Chestnut is a licensed psychotherapist, author, coach, host of the Enneagram 2.0 podcast, and co-founded of the Chestnut Paes Enneagram Academy. This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org
On today's episode, Chris and his producer Corey are talking about the Enneagram of Belonging. Corey and Phileena (Chris's wife) surprise Chris with several of his friends and family to be a part of a special episode celebrating the release of Chris's new book in a time when there is no book release party or book tours. Special thanks to: Paul K, Anahi S, Kirsten Powers, Jeelan, Ryan Meeks, Micky ScottBey Jones, Ryan O'Neal, The Hartzells, Michelle Meeks, Mariah Houston, Vera Leung, Dr. Avon, Ying Guo, Amber Redmond, Gabes Torres, Brent & Micah Crampton, Adam Heuertz and the Girls, Nhien Vuong, Bethel Lee and David Namkung, Cherini Ghobrial, Talía Guerrero, Hannah Paasch and Phileena Heuertz for making all of this special and possible.
Jack Labanauskas

Jack Labanauskas

2020-05-1201:09:58

In this episode Jack Labanauskas reflects on the evolution of the Enneagram’s modern expression through his thorough engagement with anyone who’s made a significant contribution to the system over the past 30 years. Jack offers an intimate snapshot of the very private life and mind of the late Óscar Ichazo—especially his attitude towards using the Enneagram to describe personality. Jack also offers some hope for where the tradition can go if we remain openminded and openhearted. Jack Labanauskas is the preeminent historian of the modern Enneagram of Personality. He’s been editing Enneagram Monthly for the past 25 years, creating a peer-review forum for innovative ideas to find life in conversation with the EnneaCurious.  This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org
Michael Goldberg

Michael Goldberg

2020-05-0559:35

In this episode Michael Goldberg talks about mythology and the Enneagram. He reflects on learning the Enneagram from his old neighbors, Óscar Ichazo’s Arican Institute. Michael also asserts the wings are more important than our Enneagram base point, or our dominant the, explaining this through thoughts on how movement is essential in working our Enneagram type. Michael is a writer, speaker and consultant, he is also a long time teacher of the Enneagram approach to personality types. His books include The 9 Ways of Working: How to Use the Enneagram to Discover Your Natural Strengths and Work More Effectively and his brilliant work mapping the Enneagram through Homer’s epic poem, The Odyssey in Travels with Odysseus: Uncommon Wisdom from Homer's Odyssey. This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!
Helen Palmer

Helen Palmer

2020-04-2801:06:212

On today's episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris sits down with Helen Palmer. She is among the most influential Enneagram teachers and authors in the modern era of this tradition. Her first book The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and the Others In Your Life, set the standard for type descriptions and has become an international bestseller.   In this episode Helen guides us in an inner witness awareness practice. Not only is this Helen’s very first podcast but her vulnerability here is inspiring as she reveals parts of her story publicly for the first time. Helen Palmer is a teacher of psychology and intuition, and a Core Faculty member of The Narrative Enneagram. In 1994, Helen and the late Dr. David Daniels co-chaired the first International Enneagram Conference at Stanford University. She is also a Founding Director of the International Enneagram Association. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!
Jerry Wagner

Jerry Wagner

2020-04-2101:06:061

If you are looking for credible academic research studies on the Enneagram, then you’ll love Chris’s conversation with Dr. Jerry Wagner on this week’s episode of Enneagram Mapmakers. Jerry’s wisdom reminds us that we typically view the world through lenses but usually don’t examine the lenses themselves. He’s candid and vulnerable, while provocative in untangling some of the Enneagram’s convoluted theories. Jerry Wagner is a retired teaching professor in the Department of Psychology at Loyola University, Chicago and was among the earliest students of the Enneagram in the United States. His statistically validated Wagner Enneagram Personality Style Scales (WEPPS) is one of the most reliable Enneagram tests available. He’s also the author of several books including Nine Lenses on the World: the Enneagram Perspective and The Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide. This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!
In this bonus episode of Enneagram Mapmakers Chris Heuertz reflects on ways to care for our own vulnerabilities, our own inner child during this time of uncertainty. Chris offers nine Enneagram type-specific guided Loving Kindness Mediations to help each of us find our center by welling up gentle compassion and radical self-acceptance for the parts of ourselves that are struggling with grief, fear, or frustration. In this heart-felt reflection Chris offers clues to coming into greater awareness of your own belovedness.  The method, prompts, and Enneagram type specific Loving Kindness Mediations can be found here: https://gravitycenter.com/practice/loving-kindness/  This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org
Ginger Lapid-Bogda

Ginger Lapid-Bogda

2020-04-1401:11:40

Today’s guest on Enneagram Mapmakers is Ginger Lapid-Bodga, PhD. Join Chris Heuertz as he reflects with Ginger on the difficulties in typing as well as how common mistyping is for so many of us. In their conversation, Ginger also reflects on how she first learned the Enneagram in a workshop at the Esalen Institute, led by Helen Palmer, and her own journey of coming to peace with type. Not a fan of personality systems, Ginger explains how we are much more than the categories that some renderings of type reduce us to.  A former President of the International Enneagram Association, Ginger is one of the world’s leading experts on applying the Enneagram in corporate settings. Learn more about her work with The Enneagram in Business. Ginger has also published several excellent books on the Enneagram including her most recent, The Art of Typing. This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Action and Contemplation. We’d love to hear your thoughts, comments or feedback. To do so, email us at podcasts@cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!
Sandra Maitri

Sandra Maitri

2020-04-0752:081

In this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz interviews the author of The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram and The Enneagram of Passions and Virtues, Sandra Maitri. During their conversation, Sandra reflects back on the role she played as a university student in helping develop Enneagram Types with Claudio Naranjo with his first SAT groups. She also explains how the popular Enneagram theories of “integration” and “disintegration” are actually misunderstandings. Sandra Maitri is an artist, an author, and an Enneagram teacher. She was among the first group of students to whom the Chilean psychiatrist Claudio Naranjo presented the Enneagram system in the United States in the early seventies. She is currently a supervising teacher of the Diamond Approach® to Inner Realization. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!
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