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Exquisite Corpse: Contemporary Conversations is a podcast series from the National Academy of Design featuring conversations between National Academicians. This podcast is a space for the artists and architects who have shaped this institution to connect, discuss, and ask questions of each other. National Academy Director of Programs and Series Host Adrienne Elise Tarver takes you into the organization that is contending with its almost 200-year history and finding its place in the 21st century.
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On April 20th, 2024, the newly inducted National Academician, architect Richard Gluckman NA, led a group on a walking tour through several of his building projects in Manhattan’s Chelsea neighborhood. This tour, titled Sense of Permanence, accompanied the National Academy’s exhibition Sites of Impermanence, which closed in May 2024. Co-curated by Sara Reisman, Chief Curator, and Natalia Viera Salgado, Associate Curator, it featured the work of the eight Class of 2023 Inductees, including Gluc...
This episode of Exquisite Corpse brings together National Academicians and painters Elena Sisto and Carroll Dunham in a deep discussion about painting, abstraction, and the trajectories of their work. Both painters are interested in the abstracted figure and their exchange explores the influences of childhood, freedom and risk in the studio, and mimesis versus non-objective painting. They share an investment in the expansive nature of abstraction through invention and revel in their commonali...
In this episode of Exquisite Corpse, architects Wendy Evans Joseph and Billie Tsien discuss the art-centered roots of their friendship and the experiential nature of architecture. They discuss what it means to alter or create an experience and how they practice patience with projects in the public realm. They touch on their various projects that alter how the public engages with an environment, such as Wendy’s back-of-house glass box for the Music Hall at Snug Harbor Cultural Center or ...
The second episode of Season 4 joins National Academicians Charles Gaines and Rashid Johnson in conversation about the multiplicities of blackness, the properties of representation, and exploring materiality in art making. They discuss mutual friends, common references, and a substantial reading list. Rashid shares key reference points from his childhood that inform his materials and structures. Charles delves into the nature of the grid, elements of language, and the dynamics of representati...
The National Academy of Design’s podcast Exquisite Corpse: Contemporary Conversations launches its fourth season with an episode featuring painters and dear longtime friends Roberto Juarez and Jimmy Wright. Starting with Roberto’s time capsule of work from the 1980s, their conversation ebbs and flows through experiences that color their art practices. From moving to New York in the 1970/80s, to discovering their visual languages, they share a unique journey to making art careers in New York C...
The last episode of Season 3 joins old friends, artist Pat Lasch and architect James Timberlake. Their conversation explores how their residency experiences, spirituality, and childhoods influence their work. They reminisce about their time in Rome where they both attended the American Academy residency in 1982. Each took different approaches to engaging with the city and formed a lasting bond with their cohort. They also discuss spirituality, how it informs their creative practices, and how ...
In the third episode of season three, previous guest, Mary Miss, speaks with architect, Jeanne Gang. In sharing their mutual admiration for each other’s practices, their conversation touched on social-ecological frameworks, the female gaze, and the nuances of involving community in their projects. Throughout their conversation, the natural parallels between art and architecture begin to emerge. With both practices rooted in public environments, they exchange different approaches to sust...
The second episode of season three joins friends and National Academicians Susanna Coffey and Sangram Majumdar in a conversation about painting. Both acclaimed painters, their conversation brings the audience into the complexities of painting–the material, gesture, and how it changes with their environment. Sangram explains the evolution of his process as his paintings mark critical moments in time, from the 2016 presidency to a cross-country move. Susanna examines her own revelation wi...
In the first episode of Season 3, previous guest Frances Barth chooses to speak with painter William T. Williams. They discuss their 50-year friendship, reminiscing about influences and interactions throughout their accomplished careers like working at Skowhegan, being neighbors, and their shared communities of artists. They discuss the mentors that were a part of their artistic development and how they help students and the next generation develop their own work. In the growing age of social...
The final episode of Exquisite Corpse’s second season features a conversation between LA-based architect, Michael Maltzan, who chose to speak with an artist who had an impact on his work, Mary Miss, who is based in New York. Mary speaks about her early career as an artist during the 1960s, the influences of minimalism and landscape on her practice, and how these influences pushed her closer to architecture. The two National Academicians discuss the ways in which their work is, in part, concer...
In the third episode of this season of Exquisite Corpse, we hear from two visual artists, Lorraine Shemesh and Frances Barth. Though the two artists have very different visual styles, their background and interest in dance and movement in their early careers heavily influenced their work and visual language, and sensibilities. They discuss their working-class upbringing, painting as women in New York for decades, and the gender biases that continue to pervade the art world and culture in gene...
In this episode, we hear a conversation between abstract painter Lisa Corinne Davis and Richard Mayhew, a luminary landscape painter, who, at 98, is still painting every day. They discuss their respective approaches to painting, their use of color, and how they address internal and intellectual “subjects” with their painting. They also talk about how they became artists and the roles that their families played in their development. Richard tells us about his Shinnecock grandmother’s support o...
Season 2 of Exquisite Corpse kicks off with a conversation between two installation artists – Lisa Hoke and Elana Herzog – whose friendship and practices inspired them to speak in this format. They share thoughts on sustaining their practices, reactions from other artists as they made shifts in their work, and how a non-traditional medium like installation allows for, even necessitates, travel and community involvement. The conversation also touches on many other topics including the artists’...
In this special episode of Exquisite Corpse, Host Adrienne Elise Tarver and Chief Curator, Sara Reisman talk about a recent exhibition at PS-122 Gallery, “Media Relay: An Exhibition in Two Parts” and present a unique conversation between two of the exhibition’s artists, National Academician Elizabeth King and Sound Artist Stephen Vitiello. This conversation was sound designed by the Exquisite Corpse podcast production team at SeeThruSound. © National Academy of Design nationalacademy.org nati...
National Academicians Dotty Attie and Pat Lasch speak with Adrienne about the difficulties of motherhood and marriage, famous former boyfriends, lessons they’ve learned in art and life, and various successes and failures in their personal life and careers. We hear about their experiences being female artists in the professional art world, founding AIR gallery in New York City, and how their artwork has changed and evolved. © National Academy of Design nationalacademy.org nationalacademy.org/c...
In episode 3, Michelle Grabner and Stephen Westfall speak from their roles as artists and educators about the nuance of class, gender, and genre and question how abstraction can or cannot be in dialogue with these topics. They also discuss how the focus of a residency program can assert privilege and the responsibility of shaping a living canon through educational institutions. © National Academy of Design nationalacademy.org nationalacademy.org/calendar instagram.com/natlacademy
In episode 2, Enrique Chagoya NA and Titus Kaphar NA connect on their passion for arts education outside of the traditional education system, creating politically charged work that sometimes receives violent reactions, and the materiality and varied mediums of their work. © National Academy of Design nationalacademy.org nationalacademy.org/calendar instagram.com/natlacademy
In episode one, Director of Programs and podcast host Adrienne Elise Tarver is joined by the Chief Curator and Director of National Academician Affairs at the National Academy of Design, Sara Reisman. They discuss why the podcast was named after a surrealist collaborative drawing technique and question the type of audience it may attract and exchanges it may enable between Academicians. They also touch on what topics Sara hopes to hear about, as well as the role that collaboration could play....
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