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Failing to Success

Failing to Success

Author: Chad Kaleky

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#1 Business Podcast! True stories of entrepreneurs falling forward. Join us as we sit down to hear their real life experiences of triumph over adversity and key metrics that defined their growth.

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Gym Launch Overview$20 million+ in annual revenueFounded 10 years ago by Alex Hormozi and Leila HormoziSold to private equity group in California in 2021Hormozis still own one-third and serve on the board of directorsHas helped over 7,000 gyms across 30 countries grow and increase revenueRuns an in-house marketing agency managing ads for hundreds of gymsCurrently infusing gym management software (SaaS) to increase valuation multiplesEpisode SummaryBrian Anderson, Chairman and CEO of Gym Launch, shares his proven playbook for scaling companies to tens of millions in revenue. Brought in by private equity to take the Hormozi-founded business to new heights, Brian reveals why he makes leadership all about people, from conducting deep one-on-one meetings across every level of the organization to designing compensation structures that give employees real control over their earnings.The conversation dives into the concept of "line of sight" in compensation theory, explaining why tying bonuses to company-wide metrics often fails to motivate tactical-level employees. Brian advocates for individual KPIs that let each team member know exactly what success looks like in their role. He also discusses the importance of right-sizing organizations, removing underperformers, and creating cultures where A-players thrive.Brian shares Gym Launch's strategic pivot toward gym management software to command higher SaaS valuation multiples, while continuing to deliver coaching, marketing, and operational support to gym owners worldwide. With a track record of helping 7,000 gyms across 30 countries, Gym Launch remains a powerhouse in the fitness industry.Notable Questions We AskedQ: What is the first thing you do when you come into a new company to scale it?A: I set up tons of one-on-one meetings across all levels of the organization, sometimes four levels below me. This helps me learn the business, understand what's working and what's not, and identify the strongest people. Employees on the front lines often have the best insights.Q: Why do most companies get employee compensation wrong?A: They tie bonuses to big company metrics like earnings or revenue, but tactical employees feel disconnected from those goals. It's called "line of sight", people need to feel their individual performance directly impacts their bonus, not factors outside their control.Q: What non-financial motivators actually work for employees?A: Sharing KPI metrics across departments so everyone sees what other teams are focused on. This creates openness and collaboration. When sales knows what marketing is measured on and vice versa, it builds alignment and accountability.Q: How do you handle organizational restructuring without killing morale?A: Do it all at once. Identify your A-players who are strong performers and good cultural fits, take care of them, and remove the dead wood. Surprisingly, this motivates the remaining team because they're no longer carrying underperformers.Q: How is Gym Launch increasing its valuation beyond just revenue growth?A: We're infusing a gym management software platform into our offering. Coaching businesses might sell for 8-10x earnings, but SaaS subscription businesses command much higher multiples. Stacking customers on our software increases our valuation significantly.OUR WEBSITEListen on:YOUTUBEAPPLE PODCASTS‍SPOTIFYAMAZONAdd us on:INSTAGRAMLINKEDINTIKTOKFACEBOOK#gymowner #fitnessbusiness #businessgrowth #entrepreneurship #leadership #scalingbusiness #privateequity #businessstrategy #fitnessmarketing #ceoadvice
Company Stats:Revenue: $5 millionEmployees: ~30Founded: 2015Podcast Highlights:✅ Ink’d Stores scales by shifting from a local retail swag shop to building on-demand company stores that manage and fulfill employee merch with no upfront cost.✅ Jay emphasizes that action beats ideas. Cold calling, local events, and relentless experimentation are how you take a business from zero to one.✅ The company wins in a $28B promotional products industry by focusing on corporate clients, service, and niche execution, not by trying to be “the Amazon of swag.”Episode Summary:In this episode, Jay Sapovits, President of Ink’d Stores, walks through the journey of pivoting from a fitness business into a thriving promotional products company. He explains how the company started as a physical retail swag shop and evolved into a B2B provider specializing in on-demand company stores for corporate clients. Operating in the $28 billion promotional products industry, Ink’d now generates around $5 million in revenue with just under 30 employees and celebrates its 10-year anniversary.Jay dives into why reaching $1 million in revenue is statistically rare—only about 1% of U.S. businesses ever hit that milestone—and why entrepreneurs shouldn’t get distracted by unicorn headlines. Instead, he focuses on consistent, gritty execution: chamber networking, cold calling, knocking on doors, and even standing outside in a penguin costume to get attention in the early days. He shares how mugs, classic branded merch staples, still rank among the top gifts thanks to their low cost and high perceived value, and compares the industry to pizza: tons of local players can thrive simultaneously because demand is so broad.The conversation also covers Ink’d’s major pivot from a walk-in retail model to hosting internal company swag stores that employees can order from on demand. Jay talks about “zero to one” mindset, surrounding yourself with strong people, and letting go of control so the business can scale. His main message to new founders: take shots constantly, analyze what happens, refine, and keep shooting—because every “no” gets you closer to a “yes,” and momentum only comes from action.Notable Questions We Asked:Q: Why did you pivot from a fitness company into promotional products? A: Jay realized the original fitness product didn’t have the velocity he hoped for but learned how to decorate complex materials like PVC, plastics, and foam. That expertise led him to ask, “How do we decorate more things people actually want?”—which became the basis for Ink’d’s pivot into branded merchandise.Q: Is there a specific industry or niche Ink’d focuses on for promotional products? A: Ink’d primarily serves corporate clients of all sizes, rather than teams, schools, or leagues. The business model, service style, and systems are all optimized around recurring B2B relationships and ongoing company swag needs.Q: Are mugs still a strong promotional product in today’s market? A: Yes. Jay says mugs remain a massive category—low cost, high perceived value, and always present on someone’s desk. They consistently rank in the top promotional gifts because they’re practical, visible, and customizable.Q: Why is hitting $1 million in revenue such a big milestone for small businesses? A: Jay notes that only about 1% of U.S. businesses ever reach $1 million in revenue, pointing out that most local studios, vape shops, and boutiques never hit that mark. It’s a hard threshold to cross, which is why founders shouldn’t be jaded by headlines about eight- and nine-figure exits.Q: What advice does Jay give entrepreneurs trying to go from zero to one? A: He stresses being creative and relentless: cold call, knock on doors, ask for referrals, host events, and try anything that might work. Treat every “no” as one step closer to “yes,” analyze what happened, adjust, and keep shooting—because there’s no substitute for actually taking action.Chapters00:00 Intro00:14 Company Stats01:23 Target Market and Industry Insights04:15 Challenges and Successes: The First Million07:15 Strategies for Startups: Taking Action10:39 The Big Pivot: Adapting During COVID11:44 Connect With Ink'dOUR WEBSITEListen on:YOUTUBEAPPLE PODCASTS‍SPOTIFYAMAZONAdd us on:INSTAGRAMLINKEDINTIKTOKFACEBOOK#promotionalproducts #brandedmerchandise #corporateswag #smallbusiness #entrepreneurship #businessgrowth #marketingstrategy #ecommerce #onlinestore #businesstips
Company Stats:Founded: 1993Annual Revenue: $17 millionEmployees: 195Locations: 9 cafes in Southeastern WisconsinCo-ownership: Established in 2016Certified B Corp since 2022Podcast Highlights:✅ Stone Creek Coffee scales through B2B, grocery distribution, and e-commerce rather than new physical locations.✅ Roast-level guided product lines make specialty coffee more accessible to everyday consumers.✅ Certified B Corp ensures focus on employee wellbeing, ethical sourcing, and positive community impact.Episode Summary:Stone Creek Coffee began in 1993 as one of the first specialty coffee roasters in the United States, years before large brands entered the scene. Over three decades later, the company has grown to nine retail cafes, a thriving wholesale presence, and a rapidly expanding e-commerce division. With annual revenue reaching $17 million, Stone Creek Coffee stands out as a leader in quality, accessibility, and community-driven business practices.Drew Pond, who joined as a café manager in 2014, became COO just months later and a co-owner in 2016. He has played a pivotal role in shifting the company’s growth strategy toward online and B2B sales while maintaining a commitment to craft and hospitality. By prioritizing roast levels and clear tasting notes, the company helps customers navigate specialty coffee in a relatable way. This innovation, combined with a certified B Corp ethos, positions Stone Creek Coffee uniquely within a highly competitive digital coffee marketplace.Looking ahead, Stone Creek Coffee plans to expand its roastery operations while continuing to refine its e-commerce and wholesale strategies. Its model of small-batch craftsmanship, employee empowerment, and ethical sourcing ensures the brand maintains both authenticity and scalability in the specialty coffee industry.Notable Questions We Asked:Q: What makes Stone Creek Coffee’s approach to retail expansion different from other coffee companies?A: Instead of opening more cafes, Stone Creek focuses on B2B partnerships, grocery distribution, and e-commerce growth for scalability.Q: How do you help customers choose the right coffee if they are not familiar with tasting notes?A: Stone Creek simplifies the process by organizing coffee around roast levels, making it easier for consumers to find a flavor profile they enjoy.Q: What role does being a Certified B Corp play in your company’s mission?A: Certification validates Stone Creek’s commitment to employee wellbeing, sustainable sourcing, and long-term community impact.Q: What challenges do you face in competing within the digital coffee marketplace?A: With thousands of online roasters, differentiation comes from clear product presentation, consistent quality, and building customer trust.Q: How does Stone Creek balance small-batch craftsmanship with scaling operations?A: By maintaining smaller production lines and focusing on quality first, even as they expand distribution and e-commerce.Chapters00:00 Intro00:31 Company Stats01:23 Business Model and Expansion Strategies02:23 Challenges and Differentiators in the Digital Space04:24 Exploring Coffee Varieties and Tasting Notes08:01 Stone Creek's Ethical Practices and Future Plans12:01 Connect with Stone Creek CoffeeOUR WEBSITEListen on:YOUTUBEAPPLE PODCASTS‍SPOTIFYAMAZONAdd us on:INSTAGRAMLINKEDINTIKTOKFACEBOOK#CoffeeLovers #SpecialtyCoffee #CoffeeRoasting #SustainableBusiness #B2B #EcommerceGrowth #DirectToConsumer #SmallBatch #CoffeeCulture #BCorp
Bissinger’s OverviewGrowth: Direct-to-consumer division grew 160% between 2020–2022Employees: 100Founded: 1668Bissinger’s Podcast Highlights ✅ Bissinger’s maintains 350+ years of chocolate-making tradition through small-batch, handcrafted methods ✅ Direct-to-consumer growth has surged with integrated catalog and online marketing strategies ✅ Scaling is achieved by adding small production lines while preserving artisan quality and product consistencyEpisode Summary In this episode, Dan Abel, Chief Chocolate Officer at Bissinger’s, shares the legacy and evolution of one of the world’s oldest confection brands. Founded in 1668 in Paris, Bissinger’s has preserved its commitment to hand-crafted, small-batch chocolates across centuries. Dan’s family, with chocolate-making roots dating back to 1981, acquired the brand in 2019 and has since honored its ethos while accelerating its growth.The conversation dives into Bissinger’s unique production philosophy, where even as demand grows, each confection remains handmade in 100-pound batches on compact, artisan-style lines. Dan discusses the importance of balancing wholesale, direct-to-consumer, and retail strategies, including partnerships with Barnes & Noble and expansion into brick-and-mortar storefronts. This episode reveals how staying true to tradition, while evolving with technology and consumer behavior, can build a premium brand that stands the test of time.Notable Questions We AskedQ: How old is the Bissinger’s brand and when did you acquire it? A: Bissinger’s was founded in 1668 in Paris, France. Dan Abel’s family became the seventh owner in 2019.Q: How did Bissinger’s scale production without compromising quality? A: The company adds small artisan-style production lines, each operated by a team of three, to maintain handcrafted consistency as they scale.Q: What led to the growth of your direct-to-consumer channel? A: A combination of print catalogs, a strong online strategy, and a new enterprise tech stack helped drive 160% growth from 2020–2022.Q: What is the brand’s approach to retail and wholesale partnerships? A: Bissinger’s is stocked in Barnes & Noble, Dillard’s, and over 1,000 specialty stores while expanding its own storefronts from one to three locations.Q: Why did you continue producing in small batches despite scaling up? A: Small batches ensure optimal caramelization, product quality, and uphold the brand’s artisan ethos—even as demand increases.Chapters00:00 Intro00:29 Company Stats01:01 The Acquisition Journey03:17 Navigating Challenges and Growth04:41 Direct to Consumer Expansion07:38 Manufacturing and Production Insights09:45 Connect with Bissinger'sOUR WEBSITEListen on:YOUTUBEAPPLE PODCASTS‍SPOTIFYAMAZONAdd us on:INSTAGRAMLINKEDINTIKTOKFACEBOOK#ChocolateMaking #DirectToConsumer #BrandStorytelling #HeritageBrand #SmallBatch #EcommerceSuccess #HandcraftedChocolates #WholesaleBusiness #RetailGrowth #FamilyBusiness
Jake & Gino OverviewAnnual Revenue: $24 Million in RentsEmployees: 90Founded: 20131,800 multifamily units currently owned and $350 million in assets under managementJake & Gino Podcast Highlights✅ Real estate success stems from creating long-term systems, not chasing quick wins or syndication trends ✅ Vertical integration enables profit-per-unit optimization and complete control over property operations ✅ Understanding your money mindset and investing goals is crucial before scaling into multifamily real estateEpisode SummaryIn this episode, Gino Barbaro, co-founder of Jake & Gino, breaks down how he scaled his multifamily real estate portfolio from a single 25-unit property to 1,800 units and $350 million in assets under management. Gino emphasizes the power of vertical integration over rapid syndication, choosing to retain full control over property operations for better profitability and stability. He discusses the compounding effects of long-term strategy, mentorship, and smart capital deployment across real estate ventures.Gino also explores the foundational mindset needed for financial success. He shares how transforming his relationship with money—from scarcity to stewardship—allowed him to grow as both an entrepreneur and investor. By emphasizing the importance of understanding your money persona and embracing smart leverage, Gino provides a practical playbook for any aspiring multifamily investor. This episode is a masterclass on investing frameworks, team building, and staying committed to long-term growth in real estate.Notable Questions We Asked❓ What’s the current size and structure of Jake & Gino’s real estate portfolio? 👉 1,800 units owned with $350 million in assets and a vertically integrated team of 90+ full-time members.❓ What mindset shift helped you grow from your first deal to hundreds of units? 👉 Understanding money as a tool, not a goal, and focusing on long-term investment strategies.❓ Why did you choose vertical integration instead of third-party management? 👉 Vertical integration allows more control, higher profitability, and a stronger operational foundation.❓ How important is understanding your “money persona” before investing? 👉 It’s critical—you need to know your relationship with money to make empowered, long-term investment decisions.❓ What’s your outlook on the multifamily real estate market heading into 2025? 👉 It’s a buyer’s market with massive opportunity as trillions in commercial debt come due.Chapters00:00 Intro00:14 Company Stats00:56 Building a Real Estate Empire01:41 The Journey to Success: Early Challenges03:57 Understanding Money and Mindset08:06 Leveraging Debt and Market Insights11:47 Connect with Co-founder of Jake & GinoOUR WEBSITEListen on:YOUTUBEAPPLE PODCASTS‍SPOTIFYAMAZONAdd us on:INSTAGRAMLINKEDINTIKTOKFACEBOOK#MultifamilyInvesting #RealEstateMindset #PassiveIncome #FinancialFreedom #RealEstateStrategy #InvestingTips #VerticalIntegration #SmartLeverage #WealthBuilding #RealEstateEducation
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