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Fallacious Trump

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Jim and Mark use the insane ramblings of a tiny-handed narcissist to explain logical fallacies. Each episode we focus on a single logical fallacy and, using examples from Trump, UK politics and pop culture, explore how and why it fools people, how to avoid committing it yourself, and how to counter it in an argument.

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In the one-hundred-and-seventy-sixth episode, we explore the Appeal to Outdated Data, starting with Trump getting Chicago gun laws wrong, and being disingenuous about Fauci's masking advice, then Musk pretending the press minimizes violence against white men.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Nigel Farage using old figures to claim the cost of aiming for Net Zero is too high.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Jonathan Jarry, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, and Boston Legal.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Trump's latest flurry of pardons.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft176 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpAnd you can buy our T-shirts here: https://fallacioustrump.com/teeCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-seventy-fifth episode, we take another look at the Argument from Popularity, starting with Trump claiming millions of people voted illegally in 2020, and that 90% of people think his economy was better than Biden's, then Utah's state legislature pretending science isn't real if enough people think so.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Rupert Lowe being racist, Nigel Farage dismissing Sky News based on TikTok followers, and Sarah Pochin claiming everyone feels betrayed by Labour.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from ads for Tampax and Chase Bank, and The Case for Christ.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the One Big Beautiful BillAnd finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft175 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Furtive Fallacy - FT#174

Furtive Fallacy - FT#174

2025-05-1301:32:27

In the one-hundred-and-seventy-fourth episode, we explore the Furtive Fallacy, starting with Trump blaming protests on George Soros, lying about USAID, and claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Nadine Dorries implying various behind-the-scenes shenanigans in the Tory Party.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Cheers, So I Married an Axe Murderer, and Randy Quaid.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Americans' opinions on Trump's first 100 days.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft174 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpAnd you can buy our T-shirts here: https://fallacioustrump.com/teeCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Hypophora - FT#173

Hypophora - FT#173

2025-04-2801:36:43

In the one-hundred-and-seventy-third episode, we explore Hypophora, starting with Trump showing his lack of foreign policy chops with regard to both Iran and Iraq, and then Donald Jr. minimizing COVID deaths.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Kier Starmer accurately describing Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson inaccurately describing parties, and Ed Miliband mocking an elitist Tory.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Mean Girls, and It's a Wonderful Life.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the very many ways Trump lost in court over the past couple of weeks.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft173 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpAnd you can buy our T-shirts here: https://fallacioustrump.com/teeCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Jingoism Fallacy - FT#172

Jingoism Fallacy - FT#172

2025-04-1401:35:57

In the one-hundred-and-seventy-second episode, we explore the Jingoism Fallacy, starting with Trump quoting Napoleon and making transphobia a patriotism issue, and Dr. Carole Lieberman asking why Democrats hate America.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Starmer, Sunak, and Laurence Fox doing their best to sound patriotic, an insanely jingoistic ad for Brexit, and Nigel Farage wondering why Britons aren't proud of our national history just because it includes a bit of slavery .In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Malcolm in the Middle, Dinosaurs, and Cheers.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the on-again-off-again tariffs.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft172 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-seventy-first episode, we explore the Golden Hammer Fallacy, starting with Trump trying to use tariffs to solve every problem and Dr. Oz recommending acupuncture for multiple ailments.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at the many problems Brexit was destined to solve, and the many Brexit-related problems that could be solved by rejoining the EU.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Blackadder, 30 Rock, and the IT Crowd.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the mishap in which Pete Hegseth accidentally texted war plans to a journalist.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft171 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-seventieth episode, we explore the Appeal to Common Sense Fallacy, starting with Trump ignoring the evidence on DEI, immigration, and crime.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Kemi Badenoch being confusing, Rishi Sunak denouncing elitism, Nigel Farage dismissing wokeism, and Baroness Fox celebrating the death of DEI.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Bull, Body of Evidence, and Life on Mars.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump 's lie-filled address to the Joint Session of CongressAnd finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft170 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-sixty-ninth episode, we take another look at the Inconsistent Comparison Fallacy, starting with Trump comparing Covid to the flu, Tucker Carlson being a Russian propagandist, and Candace Owens being an anti-vaxxer.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Kemi Badenoch being incredibly xenophobic, and Liz Truss being delusional.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Good Wife, Who Killed the Electric Car, and an 80s 2CV print ad.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the inefficiency of DOGE.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft169 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Euphemism - FT#168

Euphemism - FT#168

2025-02-1801:32:16

In the one-hundred-and-sixty-eighth episode, we explore the Euphemism Fallacy, starting with Trump hiding the true evil of his Executive Orders, lying about pro-life activists he pardoned, and minimizing the Access Hollywood tape.In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at Allegra Stratton struggling to come up with an excuse for parties at Number 10 during lockdown, and Boris kind of apologising for them after the fact, then we consider popular political euphemisms for lying, and finish up with Nigel Farage minimizing bogotry.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The West Wing, Bob's Burgers, and Blackadder.Then we announced our Oscars pool, which you can take part in at https://fallacioustrump.com/oscars and for every entry we get, we'll donate $5 to https://www.elevatedaccess.org/Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump 's plans for the Gaza strip.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft168 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-sixty-seventh episode, we explore the Insignificant Cause Fallacy, starting with Trump getting the Soviet Union wrong, and Ross Clark denying climate change.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Tobias Elwood being wrong about why the Tories lost, and Kemi Badenoch being wrong about Nigel Farage and the Southport murders.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from ABC News, The Land Unknown, and Without a Paddle: Nature's Calling.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump firing the Inspectors General.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft167 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Fault as Virtue - FT#166

Fault as Virtue - FT#166

2025-01-2101:39:51

In the one-hundred-and-sixty-sixth episode, we explore the Truth Rejection Fallacy, starting with Trump saying he's smart for not paying taxes, his history of buying political influence qualifies him to drain the swamp, and that his birtherism conspiracy theory peddling actually helped Obama.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Liz Truss claiming her disastrous mini budget was actually a triumph of anti-orthodox behavior, Nadine Dorries reframing Partygate as focusing on the vaccine, Angela Rayner claiming an election loss was basically a win, and a Tory party member claiming Rishi is so great because he's so rich.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Futurama, Annie Hall, Better Call Saul.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump's plans for inauguration day and how it's gone so far.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft166 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Truth Rejection - FT#165

Truth Rejection - FT#165

2025-01-0901:30:04

In the one-hundred-and-sixty-fifth episode, we explore the Truth Rejection Fallacy, starting with Trump advocating torture (again).In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Theresa May on free market capitalism, Jeremy Kyle on refugees, and Nigel Farage on the NHS and gravy trains.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Only Murders in the Building, Barney Miller, an unknown flat earther, and The Grand Tour.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the MAGA civil war over H1B visas.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft165 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Happy 2025!As a special New Year treat, here's part two of our breakdown of Louise Linton's comedy (?) thriller (?), Me You Madness - a film made by someone with far too much money and far too little talent. It's part scholarly film theory analysis, part snarky nitpicking, part exasperated diatribe. We did this for our Patrons a couple of years ago.Part one went out on Christmas Day, so check that out first if you haven't already!We're sorry/you're welcome.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Happy Festivus!As a special bonus treat, here's our breakdown of Louise Linton's comedy (?) thriller (?), Me You Madness - a film made by someone with far too much money and far too little talent. It's part scholarly film theory analysis, part snarky nitpicking, part exasperated diatribe. We did this for our Patrons a couple of years ago.There's a LOT to hate about this film, so this is just part 1 - the rest will follow on New Year's Day, to properly set the tone for 2025. We're sorry/you're welcome.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Dysphemism - FT#164

Dysphemism - FT#164

2024-12-2301:24:45

In the one-hundred-and-sixty-fourth episode, we explore Dysphemism, starting with Trump mischaracterizing the Inflation Reduction Act, immigration, and everyone he disagrees with.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Nigel Farage's attacks on Speaker John Bercow, Rachel Reeves' budget, and the EU parliament.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from House MD, Ally McBeal, and Blue Bloods.Jim and Mark go head to head in a special Christmas edition of Fake News, in which Mark has to guess which three of nine Trump facts Jim made up.Then we talk about the absurd reaction to drones over New Jersey.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft164 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-sixty-third episode, we explore the Appeal to Probability Fallacy, starting with Trump lying about inflation, Muslims, and his odds of winning in 2020.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at several opinions of Nigel Farage, and then Farage's opinion on ChatGPT.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Friends, Men in Black, and Sherlock.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Joe Biden's pardon of his son Hunter.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft163 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-sixty-second episode we take another look at the Non Sequitur Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming that anomalies in 2020 meant he won, and that Hillary was unfit to lead.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Boris Johnson and Liz Truss's final Prime Minister's Questions.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Chocolat, The Simpsons, and The Winslow Boy.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump's clownish cabinet picks.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft162 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on BlueSky @FallaciousTrump, Discord at fallacioustrump.com/discord or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Parade of Horribles - FT#161

Parade of Horribles - FT#161

2024-11-1101:15:541

In the one-hundred-and-sixty-first episode, we explore Parade of Horribles, starting with Trump listing all the bad things that would happen if Kamala won the election.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at campaign speeches from Sunak and Starmer, Brexit arguments from Johnson and Cameron, and Nigel Farage's views on the dangers of immigration.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Lincoln, and Ghostbusters,Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about what the hell just happened in the election.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft161 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Threads @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one-hundred-and-sixtieth episode we explore Glittering Generalities, starting with Trump promising to make things great again, win a lot, and stop bad people doing bad things.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at the first speeches of every British PM for the past 50 years!In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from a TikTok health influencer, Lord of War, and Last Week Tonight.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the impending election.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft160 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Threads @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and fifty-ninth episode we explore Cum Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc, starting with Trump claiming more guns makes people safer, and Biden is responsible for high gas prices, and JD Vance pretending Trump isn't responsible for Iran's nuclear progress.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak taking credit for halving inflation, and Boris claiming leaving the EU made the vaccine rollout and procurement faster.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Duolingo, The Ricky Gervais Podcast, and Bull.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Vice Presidential Debate.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft159 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Comments (10)

VB

Brilliant to get Reed As a guest. Excellent, informative interview thank you.

Feb 12th
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psyco smurfette

I love this podcast. A perfect mix of comedy and political news.

Jun 8th
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Bill Smith

a thought. Since there are three possible answers to the quotes game, and each is equally likely, isn't a score of 1/3 the total equal to random chance? This means a score of nearly 50% if substantially better than chance! Go Mark!!

Apr 19th
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Bill Smith

you mentioned Kid Rock firing at Bud Light. I saw the video and one huge red flag of note is that Kid Rock fired with a body of water as his "backstop". Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows you don't shoot over water because those bullets will skip and it is impossible to tell where they will go. He violated a basic safety rule, but then, he is not safe.

Apr 18th
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Amanda Joy

brilliant pod- I always enjoy this one

Nov 8th
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VB

Always great

Jan 11th
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VB

Absolutely love this pod. I look forward to it every week. Mark sometimes reminds me of Derek (Dudley Moore) from Derek & Clive - which I love.

Apr 17th
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Joshua Gouge

A wonderful podcast! This has to be one of my favorites. I love it when a new episode pops up! Trump is the perfect subject to use for teaching logical fallacies.

Dec 17th
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