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Fallacious Trump

Author: Jim & Mark

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Jim and Mark use the insane ramblings of a tiny-handed narcissist to explain logical fallacies. Each episode we focus on a single logical fallacy and, using examples from Trump, UK politics and pop culture, explore how and why it fools people, how to avoid committing it yourself, and how to counter it in an argument.

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In the one-hundred-and-sixtieth episode we explore Glittering Generalities, starting with Trump promising to make things great again, win a lot, and stop bad people doing bad things.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at the first speeches of every British PM for the past 50 years!In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from a TikTok health influencer, Lord of War, and Last Week Tonight.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the impending election.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft160 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Threads @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and fifty-ninth episode we explore Cum Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc, starting with Trump claiming more guns makes people safer, and Biden is responsible for high gas prices, and JD Vance pretending Trump isn't responsible for Iran's nuclear progress.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak taking credit for halving inflation, and Boris claiming leaving the EU made the vaccine rollout and procurement faster.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Duolingo, The Ricky Gervais Podcast, and Bull.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Vice Presidential Debate.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft159 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Calling Cards - FT#158

Calling Cards - FT#158

2024-10-0101:22:42

In the one hundred and fifty-eighth episode we explore Calling Cards, starting with Trump accusing Democrats of playing the religion card against Amy Coney Barrett, Hillary of playing the woman card by... being a woman, and prosecutors of playing the insurrection card.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Oliver Letwin and Lee Anderson being racist and Baroness Fox accusing people of playing the victim card following online abuse.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Brooklyn 99, Harry's Law, and Wonder Woman.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about a poll claiming to prove widespread voter fraud.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft158 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Passing the Buck - FT#157

Passing the Buck - FT#157

2024-09-1601:36:11

In the one hundred and fifty-seventh episode we explore Passing the Buck, starting with Trump blaming Democrats, the Obama administration, a random conspiracy theorist, and mainstream media for his failures.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Liz Truss blaming everyone else for her economy, and Boris blaming everyone else for his parties during COVID.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Disclosure, The Last King of Scotland, and Star Trek Deep Space Nine.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then Jim talks about the Harris/Trump debate on his own, because Mark was busy.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft157 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and fifty-sixth episode we explore the Two Wrongs Make a Right Fallacy, starting with Trump misrepresenting Democrat's views on late Supreme Court nominations, and defending Dinesh D'Souza, and Sen. Roy Blunt pretending January 6 was OK.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Kemi Badenoch misrepresenting David Tennant's views on Kemi Badenoch, and Nigel Farage arguing with Alastair Campbell.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from House MD, Blue Bloods, and The Amazing Spider-Man.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Democratic National Convention.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft156 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpCreate your podcast today! #madeonzencastrSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and fifty-fifth episode we take another look at the False Dilemma Fallacy, starting with Trump questioning Bill Barr's loyalty, being dramatic about the stakes of the election, and not understanding the nuance of opening the country during a pandemic.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Viscount Younger of Leckie talking about the financial drawbacks of climate concern, GB News on whether you should care about the NHS or pronouns.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Two and a Half Men, and Parks & Recreation.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Tim Walz.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft155 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and fifty-fourth episode we explore the Magic Words Fallacy, starting with Trump not wanting to be a chauvinist, Ted Yoho not apologizing, and Sovereign citizens not getting away with anything.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Nigel Farage making excuses for racists in his party, both Priti Patel and Boris not apologizing, and Robert Jenrick repenting for the wrong thing.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Incredible Burt Wonderstone, Cop Rock, American Dad, and Bob's Burgers.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Kamala Harris's amazing first few days as the presumptive candidate.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft154 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Emergency Bonus Episode!

Emergency Bonus Episode!

2024-07-2202:15:12

Well, it's been quite a week, and rather than try to fit our usual structure around talk of an assassination attempt on a candidate, a sitting President withdrawing his reelection bid a month before the convention, and a former president's felony case for stealing classified documents being completely dismissed by a corrupt judge, we decided to wing it.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Holmesian Fallacy - FT#153

Holmesian Fallacy - FT#153

2024-07-0901:50:211

In the one hundred and fifty-third episode we explore the Holmesian Fallacy, starting with Trump not understanding battle tactics and Dinesh D'Souza not understanding much of anything.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak's claim that Labour don't have a plan, Marco Longhi's inability to think of alternatives to the Rwanda plan, and Nadine Dorries lack of linguistic imagination in describing abortion.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Star Trek, road signs on the A12, and The Science of Weird Shit.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Trump/Biden debate and the Supreme Court's immunity decision.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft153 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Notable Effort - FT#152

Notable Effort - FT#152

2024-06-2301:20:00

In the one hundred and fifty second episode we explore the Notable Effort Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming he tried really hard to help seniors, John Durham worked hard on his report, and The FBI put a lot of effort into making sure the midterms were fair.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak's claim that he worked hard on reducing NHS waiting lists and also talking to people, and Simon Clarke MP defending the Rwanda bill based on the effort put into its creation.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Raising Hope, The West Wing, and Taskmaster New Zealand.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Project 2025.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft152 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and fifty first episode we explore the Appeal to Coincidence Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming he didn't try to run casinos in Florida, Steven Cheung lying about why they had a rally in Waco, Kellyanne Conway lying about Trump's donation to Pam Bondi, and Greg Kelly making excuses for Nazi rhetoric.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Matt Hancock lying about Tory donors, PPE, and COVID origins, Edward Argar defending him, and Liz Truss pretending stuff wasn't her fault.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Blue Bloods, Wonder Woman and Taskmaster.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump's criminal convictions!And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft151 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Contrarian Fallacy - FT#150

Contrarian Fallacy - FT#150

2024-05-2701:38:37

In the one hundred and fiftieth episode (yay!) we explore the Contrarian Fallacy, starting with Trump disagreeing with his own taxes, his own stance on Iraq, and everything Obama ever did.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Boris Johnson denying reality and somehow disagreeing with a question, and Rishi Sunak pretending the Tories don't have an Islamophobia problem.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Monty Python's Flying Circus, Community, and Horse Feathers.Jim and Mark go head to head in a special edition of Fake News, in which Mark has to guess which three of nine Trump-branded products Jim made up.Then we talk about the latest progress in Trump's first criminal trial.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft150 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Pragmatic Fallacy - FT#149

Pragmatic Fallacy - FT#149

2024-05-1401:31:03

In the one hundred and forty ninth episode we explore the Pragmatic Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming hydroxychloroquine, stop-and-frisk, and torture all work.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Lord Murray of Blidworth and Jacob Rees-Mogg's opinions on Rwanda.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Life & Times of Tim, King of the Hill, and Mork & Mindy.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the latest progress in Trump's first criminal trial.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft149 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
The Supreme Court heard oral arguments in a case they should never have taken, asked some disingenuous questions and will delay another one of Trump's trials as a result. We talk about it!!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Apophasis - FT#148

Apophasis - FT#148

2024-04-3001:45:17

In the one hundred and forty eighth episode we explore Apophasis, starting with Trump mocking Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina and Kim Jong-Un.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Jess Phillips not calling Boris Johnson a liar, Boris not calling the select committee a kangaroo court, and Joe Lycett claiming not to believe what leftist haters say about Liz Truss.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Friends, Good Morning Vietnam, Monty Python's Flying Circus, and Mrs Merton.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the progress so far in Trump's first criminal trial.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft148 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and forty seventh episode we take another look at the Moral Equivalence Fallacy, starting with Trump comparing January 6 insurrectionists with BLM protestors, Dinesh D'Souza comparing Trump to Navalny, and Matthew Dowd comparing sexual assault to mishandling emails.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Shelagh Fogarty comparing silence over ministerial misdeeds to hiding in a fridge, and Rishi Sunak and Sam Armstrong equating pro-Palestinian protestors with war criminals, and .In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Halt and Catch Fire, Criminal Minds, and The I.T. Crowd.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump's insane Presidential Records Act defense in his Florida trial.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft147 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Obfuscation - FT#146

Obfuscation - FT#146

2024-03-3101:25:45

In the one hundred and forty sixth episode we explore the Obfuscation Fallacy, starting with Trump badly clarifying his support for Putin, Trump's Doctors pretending he wasn't given supplemental oxygen when being treated for COVID, and Kevin McCarthy denying something nobody accused him of.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Boris being suitably vague about his plans to run for leader and his missing WhatsApp messages, Mark Harper and Graham Stuart being unclear repeatedly about whether Lee Anderson and Frank Hester said racist things.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from That Mitchell & Webb Look, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and Shrek the Third.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about what's going on with Trump's various court cases.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft146 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and forty fifth episode we explore the Affirming the Consequent Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming more COVID proved their testing was better, Fake News was perfect for CNN, and the Democrats were damaging the country.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Liberal Democrat MP Munira Wilson questioning Matt Hancock's motives for abolishing Public Health England and Lard Marland defending Tory donor Frank Hester against accusations of racism.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from ALF, Cheers, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Biden's SOTU and Katie Britt's response, and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft145 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and forty fourth episode we explore the Denying the Antecedent Fallacy, starting with Trump's lawyers claiming he's immune, Trump claiming Mueller had no evidence against him, and Rep. Debbie Lesko trying to 'gotcha' Robert Mueller.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Margaret Thatcher claiming the source of satisfaction is hard work, Kier Starmer claiming George Galloway wouldn't have won in Rochdale if they'd had a candidate, and Robert Jenrick claiming immigrants can't integrate into society if there's too many of them.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Little Miss Sunshine, Animaniacs, and American Dad.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Supreme Court taking up Trump's immunity case, and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft144You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Playing Politics - FT#143

Playing Politics - FT#143

2024-02-2001:53:121

In the one hundred and forty third episode we explore the Playing Politics Fallacy, starting with Trump blaming the border security related shutdown on Democrats and accusing them of blocking funding for the Paycheck Protection Program before we hear Jim Jordan, Ted Cruz and Bill Eiger avoid the gun control debate by clutching their pearls about Democrats politicizing mass shootings.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak repeatedly accusing Kier Starmer of playing politics to deflect attention from all the playing politics that Rishi is doing, then hear Jacob Rees-Mogg attack UNICEF for feeding poor British children.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Shield, Don't Look Up, and The West Wing.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the $355 million that Trump is now required to pay New York and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft143 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Comments (10)

VB

Brilliant to get Reed As a guest. Excellent, informative interview thank you.

Feb 12th
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psyco smurfette

I love this podcast. A perfect mix of comedy and political news.

Jun 8th
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Bill Smith

a thought. Since there are three possible answers to the quotes game, and each is equally likely, isn't a score of 1/3 the total equal to random chance? This means a score of nearly 50% if substantially better than chance! Go Mark!!

Apr 19th
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Bill Smith

you mentioned Kid Rock firing at Bud Light. I saw the video and one huge red flag of note is that Kid Rock fired with a body of water as his "backstop". Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows you don't shoot over water because those bullets will skip and it is impossible to tell where they will go. He violated a basic safety rule, but then, he is not safe.

Apr 18th
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Amanda Joy

brilliant pod- I always enjoy this one

Nov 8th
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VB

Always great

Jan 11th
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VB

Absolutely love this pod. I look forward to it every week. Mark sometimes reminds me of Derek (Dudley Moore) from Derek & Clive - which I love.

Apr 17th
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Joshua Gouge

A wonderful podcast! This has to be one of my favorites. I love it when a new episode pops up! Trump is the perfect subject to use for teaching logical fallacies.

Dec 17th
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