Return to Monke. Reject modernity, embrace ape. Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by tackling episodes 12 and 13 of the anime, "A Wish to the Eternal Dragon" and "The Legend of Goku" then have a discussion about the Great Ape, Oozaru, and its inspirations from kaiju film and television In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney find themselves trapped after an unfortunate encounter A call is placed for outside assistance Special Guest: Matt Parmely from the Kaiju Transmissions podcast joins our discussion Brief plot synopsis of episodes 12 and 13 of the Dragon Ball anime Brief discussion of favorite moments from the anime episodes Breaking down the most obvious influence of Oozaru, King Kong and his popularity in Japan, which bolstered that of Godzilla A debunking of the claim that Kong was Japan's first kaiju via an unearthing of some facts about the films King Kong Made in Japan and King Kong Appears in Edo What leads most people to claiming these are Japan's first kaiju films, and what we know to the contrary, despite the films being lost forever due to the bombing of Hiroshima A recommendation to check out the book, Kong Unmade, by John Lemay How King Kong influence Donkey Kong and Godzilla and Eiji Tsuburaya and Akira Toriyama The original name of Oozaru, kaibutsu-zaru, and its meaning How the Wolf Man (1941) influenced Oozaru Discussion of Sun Wukong's transformation abilities and how those literary roots influence Oozaru as well What Eastern mind-sets about one's consciousness and subconsciousness have to say about Goku's transformation Why cutting off the tail is the method of de-transformation A discussion of how the Oozaru form has ceased to be used in more recent years A bit of praise for Dragon Ball GT for bringing the form back to use A very brief discussion of what 'canon' is in the Dragon Ball franchise How the appearance of Oozaru affects all the characters, even the Pilaf gang, and makes them work together to survive What the most memorable moments of the Oozaru are How the form does some inversion of tropes and ideas, and potential ideas for how it could further be used for Toriyama's favorite idea of subverting expectations A plug for Kaiju Masterclass, an online convention, which includes interviews with Ryhuei Kitamura, Bear McCreary, Shusuke Kaneko, and more creators behind the Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera, Evangelion, and other kaiju, tokusatsu, and related franchises. and more, including some general pop culture, kaiju trivia, and editorializing, as usual. Join us, and Matt, as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
Quarks! Quantum entanglements! Relativity! Non-Einsteinian simultaneity! What do these have to do with Bulma making a phone call from Namek to Earth? Everything, it turns out. Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 46 through 50: "Defying Orders," "Namek's Defense," "The Hunted," "The Prince Fights Back," and "Unexpected Problem." Wedive into the Namek Saga and tackle the problem of faster-than-light communications and time travel. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are being cagey Back to a solid run of episodes Putting some SCIENCE into our science fiction How long it SHOULD take to send a message to Namek Ursula K LeGuin and her creation of the ansible What is an ansible? Why is it called an ansible? How does an ansible work? Robert Heinlein's (Starship Troopers) answers to how faster than light communication would work Non-Einsteinian simultaneity and how early work on non-simultaneity and relativistic speeds influenced Einstein's theory of relativity Lorentz transformations and Einstein's train thought experiment How the term ansible and the work of Le Guin influenced people like David Langford and Orson Scott Card A brief slagging of Card Research done into tachyons and reverse time travel The work of physicists Ben Tippet and David Tsang in the math behind reverse time travel Whether changing the past changes the future and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
We've still never heard of editing but we HAVE heard of Dragon Ball this time...kind of. Join Jelli and Bekinney as we catch up after just a couple weeks. Bekinney discusses a new book series he's reading, while Jelli delves back into Japan, walking through Osaka, Dotonbori, Tanuki statues, the Orix Buffaloes, Expo 2025 (which leads us into a brief discussion of the movie Gamera vs Jiger) the Curse of the Colonel and the Hanshin Tigers, Hiroshima and Peace Park, and the Hotel Gracery or the Godzilla Hotel in Tokyo. Jelli also talks about some general tips for travel and alludes to a video that may or may not ever happen. We also discuss The Princess Bride, and the Buffalo Bills, and Dragon Ball Gekishin Squadra Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through our lives. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
How do you pad for time between arcs? Are those Crows? What awaits us as we begin a new story arc? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 41 through 45: "Look Out Below," "The Search Continues," "A Friendly Surprise," "Brood of Evil," and "Frieza Strikes." We begin discussing the Namek Saga and attempt to break down some filler episodes and preview this new arc. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney try to plot their next move The run of great episodes is over, but let's not lose hope. Breaking down the names for Raiti and Zaacro, as well as Cui Attempting to evaluate the Treedon birds through the lens that they might be crows and looking at how crows are viewed in Japan Cannibalism? One of us totally would. Which one will (not) shock you Jack and the Beanstalk and its origins as a very different story from the one we know A little bit about Group TAC, which allows us to talk about the voice talents behind Pokemon's Mewtwo, and get tangentially into a wild tokusatsu movie... ...Rex: A Dinosaur's Story, the tale of how a baby tyrannosaurus rex is raised by a little girl, gets in a food fight, escapes marketing executives on a snowmobile after stealing a Christmas cloak from Colonel Sanders and the story of how the movie's production led to the arrest of the head of Kadokawa for smuggling drugs A bit about Japan's Sesssho-seki, or Killing Stone famous in Tochigi Prefecture Nautilus, their shells, the Golden Ratio, the Fibonacci Sequence, and illusions We're not grasping at straws AT ALL Setting the stage using examples from X-Men, DCEU and Journey to the West Vegeta's history as the heir to the throne, and his early life Some of Toriyama's thoughts on Vegeta, at least early in the story Vegeta and Goku: Opposite sides of the same coin How Vegeta so internalizes the lessons he learns as a child that it shapes his entire worldview, and how the very existence of Goku flies in the face of said worldview The Six-Eared Macaque from Journey to the West, one of Sun Wukong's most formidable foes Some researched theories about the relationship between Wukong and Six-Ears and how that is mirrored by the relationship between Goku and Vegeta The Lego series Lego Monkie Kid and its portrayal of Six Ears Why Vegeta is always invoking his prince status as if it is a boast, despite there being only a handful of Saiyans left Why Vegeta is so relatable and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
Dragon Ball? Editing? Never heard of those things. Join Jelli and Bekinney as we catch up after six weeks of not talking much. Bekinney discusses a family reunion and riding sketchy rides on the boardwalk, including the Himalayan, and Jelli regales everyone with the first week of his trip to Japan, with his usual penchant for rambling and self-indulgence We also discuss Superman, Thunderbolts, Captain America: Brave New World, Better Man, Robbie Williams, Paddington in Peru, James Gunn's DC universe, Jurassic World Rebirth, and provide one of the only reviews you're likely to hear about the movie Brush of the God. Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through our lives. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
What would have happened if they saved Hitler's brain and put it in the body of a robot with a bubble-dome? What does the film Phantasm have to do with Dragon Ball? How did we manage to work in a reference to the Aum Shinrikyo cult that carried out multiple poison attacks on Japanese public transit in the early 90s? The answers to these, and similar questions, abound as Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by tackling the 1990 movie, The World's Strongest. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney narrowly escape disaster We sync up our audio commentary for the listeners We discuss some of the production facts about the film Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest such as its 1990 release at the Toei Manga Matsuri film festival, the film's box office, and the production team working on the film We talk about the other films released alongside the movie: Akuma-kun: Welcome to Devil Land, and Mitsuteru Yokoyama's Sally the Witch movie. A little history about Misuteru, including his creation of Tesujin 28, Babel II, Iga no Kagemaru, Sally the Witch, and adaptations of Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Water margin Contextualizing the box office of the film Shedding light on Shinji Fukumitsu, the editor, who worked on Dragon Ball Z, Gegege no Kitaro, One Piece, and Transformers: The Movie A little bit on Motoaki Ikegami and his career spanning Neon Genesis Evangelion, Dr Slump, Pokemon, Inuyasha and Twilight of the Cockroaches Discussing the film's unique antagonists, Kishime, Ebifurya, Misokatsun, Dr. Kochin, and Dr. Wheelo (or Uiro) Misokatsun --> Buyon --> The Blob --> horror movies --> Nightmare on Elm Street 3 (yes, really) A bit about the Funimation composer, Nathan Johnson and his career, including his time as a Texas state senator (Nathan) Johnsons, (Anthony) Wieners, adult film parodies of Chinese classic novels...things are coming unglued A bit about the Metaluna Men from This Island Earth, Hal 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Universal Monsters movies, especially Ghost of Frankenstein and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual as we react to this wickedly fast-paced film Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod
We've reached the end of the Saiyan Arc. How do we feel about it having reached its end and being primed for the next adventure? Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by jumping into comparing the Dragon Ball anime to the Dragon Ball manga. We continue discussing Saiyan arc, and talk about pacing. We also discuss five episodes of the anime, episodes 36-40, "Picking Up the Pieces," "Plans for Departure," "Nursing Wounds," "Friends or Foes," and "Held Captive." In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney destroy the gravity generator We recap the story a little bit Wukong Hospital and Goku's unique looking hospital bed, with a possible inspiration from Alien Bulma's outfit being inspired by Alien, and its possible influence on Hideaki Anno's Neon Genesis Evangelion A theory about Bulma's evolving hairstyles A brief discussion of Frank Frazetta, the "godfather of fantasy art" who was a well-renown illustrator who worked on Conan the Barbarian and John Carter of Mars among other things in his career A conversation about the Russian attempts to place mirrors in space, and a brief tangent into discussing Archimedes' Sun Death Ray Wrapping up the arc with grades and comparing the manga to the anime and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod
How do you handle introducing a rival? Why does Vegeta always call himself the Prince of All Saiyans? Is there any basis for this character in the story Journey to the West? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 30 through 35: "Goku vs. Vegeta," "Saiyan Sized Secret," "Spirit Bomb Away!" "Hero in the Shadows," "Krillin's Offensive," and "Mercy." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk in detail for the first time about one of the franchise's most iconic characters: Vegeta. We talk about his in-universe history, and his psychology, as well as his possible sources for inspiration, and what makes him so popular In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney enter into the gravity well Just how good are THESE episodes? For really real. Who is Vegeta? Setting the stage using examples from X-Men, DCEU and Journey to the West Vegeta's history as the heir to the throne, and his early life Some of Toriyama's thoughts on Vegeta, at least early in the story Vegeta and Goku: Opposite sides of the same coin How Vegeta so internalizes the lessons he learns as a child that it shapes his entire worldview, and how the very existence of Goku flies in the face of said worldview The Six-Eared Macaque from Journey to the West, one of Sun Wukong's most formidable foes Some researched theories about the relationship between Wukong and Six-Ears and how that is mirrored by the relationship between Goku and Vegeta The Lego series Lego Monkie Kid and its portrayal of Six Ears Why Vegeta is always invoking his prince status as if it is a boast, despite there being only a handful of Saiyans left Why Vegeta is so relatable and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
Could Akira Toriyama have pulled inspiration from WWE for Dragon Ball Z? Did he really have nothing to do with the anime portion of the show? What happens when we come across five more stellar episodes of DBZ? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 26 through 29: "Nappa's Rampage," "Nimbus Speed," "Goku's Arrival," and "Lesson Number One" We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about one of Dragon Ball's most infamous villains: Nappa. We also talk about filler moments such as the character Gregory, Snake Way, and Goku's misadventures in Hell and what influence Toriyama may have had on those elements. WE ALSO discuss some of the new ki attacks namely: the kienzan, or Destructo Disc, and the Masenko In this episode: Jelli manages to stave off further adventure, much to the chagrin of Bekinney Just how good are these episodes? For real. How much input did Toriyama have on anime filler? We know he designed the character Gregory, and came up with the idea for Goku to be chased by a giant snake as well as Goku eating clouds. What does this say about how involved Toriyama may have been in filler? We briefly discuss the guidebooks, or Daizenshuu A note on a filler moment from very early in Dragon Ball, with regards to Muscle Tower and some possible foreshadowing to Goku's Saiyan heritage What inspired Toriyama to create the Destructo Disk? What would Gohan's use of the Masanko tell his intended audience (Japanese people) about Gohan and Piccolo at this point? It's over 9000! A discussion of the meme Nappa: his name, his design, and the team dynamics between he and Vegeta Bolo Yeung, Hulk Hogan, Bruce Lee, and King Boxer An attempt to tie-into Journey to the West, at least thematically and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
Join Jelli and Bekinney as we continue looking at Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball franchise by tackling a discussion of where we sit currently at Final Forum. Recapping where things stand in the animated area of the franchise, and just providing a general update for the upcoming couple weeks. Bekinney discusses watching Full Metal Alchemist and then Jelli gives an SEO-friendly (hopefully...gotta get them clicks RIGHT?!) update on some movies he watched including: The Monkey, Predator: Killer of Killers, 28 Years Later, Mickey 17, Pee-Wee as Himself, The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie, Companion, Heart Eyes , Novocaine, Nickel Boys, Love Hurts and the little-seen Bob Trevino Likes It. Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through the franchise in a post-Daima world and continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
It's our 100th Episode! And we didn't want to celebrate on our own, so we brought in some new friends, Spencer and John from the show Eric Hates Dragon Ball Z to do a commentary-slash-reaction to the second live-action bootleg movie, Taiwan's Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are celebrating 100 episodes We reveal our title and instruct listeners where to find this one We discuss some of the production facts about the film, its 1991 release, and the production team working on the film Discussing the history of Taiwanese cinema Why this movie is on Tubi, Amazon Prime, and official YouTube channels A theory about why this movie looks like it has a budget Forays into the history of China and Taiwan A wild combination of everything being absolutely right and ABSOLUTELY wrong and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual as we react to this insane fever dream of a film Eric Hates Dragon Ball Z Links: https://www.rocktopusnetwork.com/eric-hates-dbz https://erichatesdbz.libsyn.com/ https://x.com/erichatesdbz https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rUZoC6KaDgEo9cnFnMRLw https://www.instagram.com/erichatesdragonballz/?hl=en https://discord.gg/7pUnfRf29k Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
Could Akira Toriyama have pulled inspiration from The Thing for Dragon Ball Z? What would the effects of Saiyan space travel be if it were real? What happens when we come across five stellar episodes of DBZ? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 21 through 25: "Counting Down," "The Darkest Day," "Saibamen Attack!" "The Power of Nappa," and "Sacrifice." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about some new foes: The Saibamen. We also talk about the Saiyan Space Pods, or Attack Balls. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney's situation has become most desperate Just how good are these episodes? For real. Were Saibamen inspired by the Bio Men from This Island Earth? Or perhaps by The Thing from Another World? Maybe by the Xenomorphs of Alien? Perhaps by the titular monsters from The Day of the Triffids? Maybe the pod people from Invasion of the Body Snatchers? More? None? All? Are there any ties between the Saibamen and The Red Ribbon Army? (not really, but there is a minor reference made by the hosts) A possible pull from Osamu Tezuka's manga, Lost World Potential inspiration from Dragon Quest Other variants of Saibamen that appear in video games and a tangent on their naming conventions How fast do Saiyan space pods travel? Is that speed feasible? What does Saiyan deep space exercise look like? Something to think about when we talk about the exercise requirements of astronauts in space. The gooification of people inside the Attack Balls when they land and the Iron Man problem A possible tie back to Journey to the West, as well as the Chinese emperor Yu the Great A discussion of Soyuz rockets, used by Russian cosmonauts for space travel A brief look at Vostok-1 and Yuri Gagarin's historic feat The Rule of Cool and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
Dragon Ball Daima is over. The dub has been released in full. What now? Where does the franchise go from here? Where CAN it go from here? What would we LIKE for it to do now? Join Jelli and Bekinney as we continue looking at Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball franchise by tackling a discussion of Dragon Ball's "State of the Union." Recapping where things stand in the animated area of the franchise, the manga and of course, current video games. We talk about where Dragon Ball Super last left off with the Super Hero arc being completed and the big Black Frieza teaser left out there. We talk about the four big video games currently being supported in the Dragon Ball world that led to Dragon Ball being Bandai Namco's number one money earner for the past fiscal year, namely The Breakers, Xenoverse 2, Kakarott, and Sparking Zero. We also talk about James Gunn's Superman, Sinners, Friendship, Paul Rudd, Tim Robinson, I Think You Should Leave, The Dark Tower, Stephen King, Holly Gibney, and of COURSE....lawnmowers. oin us for this more casual conversation as we dig through the franchise in a post-Daima world and continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social
What does it take to be the 'man' sitting in front of the entry to the afterlife, judging souls? Why did we accidentally slip in to a discussion of the Ox King? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 6 through 10: "No Time Like the Present," "Day 1," "Gohan Goes Bananas," "The Strangest Robot," and "A New Friend." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga (now that the Raditz Arc is officially already over), and talk about King Yemma. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney make ready for their next planetary expedition It's WWE time. Full Nelsons, Ruffy Silverstein, Hans Mortier, Bruno Sammartino, Hulkamania, The Warlord, the Powers of Pain, the Road Warriors, and Superstar Billy Graham. What do they have to do with Dragon Ball? Maybe nothing! The connection between King Yemma in Dragon Ball Z and the character Enma from Dr Slump The Hindu version of Enma, or Yama, and his history and mythology The Buddhist version of Yemma, Yama, and his role in the afterlife How these two characters fuse into the depiction of King Yemma Possible inspiration points from Dante's Inferno, as well as the depiction of St. Peter guarding the Pearly Gates A note about Nemuria and its connection to Lemuria, Mu, Atlantis and other Lost Continents Yamcha's team, the Taitans and why it's not spelled Titan with our tokusatsu reference for the day in the form of Ultraman (and Ultraman Tiga vs Ultraman Taiga) Somehow, a discussion of the Ox King and his ability to be Gohan's grandfather while navigating the parenting styles of both Goku and Chichi and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod
What could Goku's next challenge possibly be now that he's the Strongest Under the Heavens? A sibling rivalry? Is that really all you got, Toriyama? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by breaking down episodes 1 through 5: "The New Threat," "Reunions," "Unlikely Alliance," "Piccolo's Plan," and "Gohan's Rage." We begin discussing the Saiyan Saga (or the Raditz Arc under the new terminology), and talk about Raditz as well as the pivot into DBZ. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney recuperate from their hard-fought battle We talk about the pivot into Dragon Ball Z Why is it called Dragon Ball Z? What role did Kozo Morishita, Takao Koyama, Kazuhiko Torishima, Yuu Kondo, and Akira Toriyama play in the decision to rebrand the show DBZ? We discuss whether this pivot is good or bad and talk a bit about everyone's favorite topic in Dragon Ball: Power Levels Raditz. His design, his inspirations, and his motives, we take a look at them and break them down in our typical fashion, talking about Saiyans and Toriyama's puns in the process. How does Raditz compare to Darth Vader, play on David vs Goliath, tie into Osomatsu-kun, Jane Eyre, Great Expectations, and the Bible? How does Jelli sneak in a kaiju/Godzilla reference this time? and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod
It's FINALLY time for Dragon Ball Z! Kind of! Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by ...getting into our first DBZ discussion by tackling the 1989 movie, Dead Zone. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney recuperate from their hard-fought battle We sync up our audio commentary for the listeners We discuss some of the production facts about the film Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone such as its 1989 release at the Toei Manga Matsuri film festival, the film's box office, and the production team working on the film We talk about the other films released alongside the movie: Akuma-kun: The Movie, Mobile Cop Jiban, the Movie, and Himitsu no Akko-Chan's first movie We delve into the background behind the Toei Manga Matsuri – Toei Cartoon Festival and its inception in 1969 and other such festivals around the country such as Toho's Champion Festival Contextualizing the box office of the film Shedding light on Yuji Ikdeda, art director for Dr Slump and Dragon Ball Delving into Kozo Morishita, a producer for Dragon Ball GT and important figure in Dragon Ball history Morishita's work on Transformers The Movie (1986), as well as Tiger Mask and UFO Robot Grendizer, Fist of the North Star, Devilman, Mazinger Z, Cutey Honey, and Wolf Boy Ken Morishita's fame for Transformers and subsequent changes to Saint Seiya Mark Menza and Nathan Johnson, composers for the American music to these movies, working with the Bruce Faulconer team We discuss the different dubs created for the film by studios such as Creative Products, Speedy, and Funimation Breaking down the movie's characters and their inspirations, Garlic Jr, Sansho, Nicky, and the crystal used to seal away Garlic Comparisons between the Dead Zone and Superman's Phantom Zone and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual as we react to this wickedly fast-paced film Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod
Jelli and Bekinney continue their break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon, and pivot away from tearing into the manga and anime that are the most crucial parts of the Dragon Ball franchise to have a little themed fun! In this episode: It's TOURNAMENT SEASON! Kick off your shoes, relax, and listen as we break down 32 of Dragon Ball's most popular (?) characters and discuss who would win in a theoretical game of Win Ben Stein's Money, with a Jeopardy kicker We take if from the round of 32, down to the Sweet 16, Head into the Elite Eight, jump into the Final Four, and then choose our champion! Who will reign supreme and be declared the number one under heaven in trivia? Join us as we take a break from uncovering the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise and have some March Madness themed fun!
Jelli and Bekinney take a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon, and pivot away from tearing into the manga and anime that are the most crucial parts of the Dragon Ball franchise to have a little themed fun! In this episode: It's TOURNAMENT SEASON! Kick off your shoes, relax, and listen as we break down 64 of Dragon Ball's most popular (?) characters and discuss who would win in a theoretical episode of Win Ben Stein's Money with a Jeopardy kicker. We discuss the system used for determining outcomes. We break down our opponents in each matchup. In the Saiyan Region: Will Goku topple Tarble, will Vegeta defeat Paragus, who will win when Broly encounters Goten? Will the timeline handle Future Trunks facing off against his younger self? Can Gohan defeat King Vegeta? Can Cabba beat Bardock? Can Kale topple Nappa? Will Caulifla be able to defeat Raditz? In the Earthling Region: Krillin vs Yajirobe, Bulma vs Chiaotzu, Android 17 vs Ox King, Android 18 vs Mr Satan, Yamcha vs Chichi, Tien vs Nam, Android 16 vs Videl, Master Roshi vs Launch In the Villains Region: Can Frieza out-fox Mercenary Tao? Will Hit topple Recoome? Will Zamasu throttle King Cold? Who is more nefarious, Cooler or Pilaf? Who has the mad skills, Ginyu or Dabura? Will Buu beat down Android 19? Will Jiren smash Dr Gero? Can Cell prove to be more perfect than Garlic Jr? In the Deity/Ally Region: Who will win when Beerus, Oolong, Korin, Mr Popo, Nail, Elder Kai, Supreme Kai Shin, Puar, King Kai, Gregory, Dende, Kabito, Kami, King Yemma, Piccolo, and Jaco all face off? Join us as we take a break from uncovering the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise and have some March Madness themed fun!
It's Summer Convention Season! You think it's not, just because it's winter? Well, tune in to find out why it is! Jelli takes you into the world of our summer conventions by presenting one of the panels we held this year, at Colossalcon Texas in Austin, TX (well, technically Round Rock, TX) from Colossalcon. This panel was also presented at Anime Weekend Atlanta (AWA) in (obviously) Atlanta, GA and the Q&A portion of that event is retained here. In this episode: Jelli is on his own. We talk about Toriyama's childhood life We learn about Toriyama's early obsession with drawing and animation The influences of a young Toriyama are discussed, especially his enjoyment of Showa-era television and movie entertainment including Godzilla, Ultraman, Osamatsu-kun, Astro Boy, Iron Man Number 28, Doraemon and some early manga by creators such as Osamu Tezuka, and Fujiko Fujio despite not being a big reader of manga himself. Toriyama's realization that to be a popular anime, you should have a popular manga Discussion of how Toriyama writes and creates while watching TV and movies We discuss Toriyama's initial years out of college in a salaryman job and how his non-professional attitude caused him to seek out something more fulfilling Toriyama's passion for building models and how that allows him to get a 360-degree view of things in order to learn how to draw them Toriyama's well-known antisocial tendencies and his desire to live as near a hermit lifestyle as possible How a young, budding Toriyama got his first big shot from Kazuhiko Torishima, an editor with Shonen Jump The fusion of a manga-ka (Toriyama) who doesn't read manga, and an editor (Torishima) who also does not read much manga, and how that led the two of them to create a unique presentation Brief discussion of some of Toriyama's earliest publications in Shonen Jump including Wonder Island, Today's Highlight Island, Tomato Girl Detective, and ultimately, Dr. Slump How Arale-chan's glasses became part of her iconic look How Dr Mashirito, the villain, came to be designed after Torishima Discussion of Akira Toriyama's Crummy Manga Lab, a series of funny, short manga that were intended to semi-jokingly teach people how to be a manga-ka. How Toriyama creates Toribot, because of his desire to never be seen in pictures and avoid being recognized by people in public Toriyama falling in love, getting married, and how a snafu with press on his wedding day leads to his vow to never show his face in public How Torishima had to push Toriyama along the way to be productive and ultimately create Dragon Ball How Yoshimi Kato, Toriyama's wife, helped create Dragon Ball with an off-hand comment to Torishima about the manga-ka's work habits A very brief discussion of how Dragon Ball Super is crafted, as a collaboration between Toriyama and his chosen successor, Toyotarou Some more details on Akira Toriyama's unfortunate passing from subdermal hematoma and more, including some general pop culture and editorializing, as usual. Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise.
What happens when Vegeta goes even further beyond? When will we find out why Piccolo is here? What's Daima's terrible behind-the-scenes secret? Join Jelli and Bekinney as we continue looking at Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball franchise by tackling a discussion of Dragon Ball Daima, and its next five episodes: "Legend," "True Strength," "Surprise," "Taboo," and "Third Eye". Why is Majin Kuu best boi? Is his brother, Majin Duu also best boi? Piccolo forgot how to speak Namekian? What is he DOING here? Battles against Tamagami 1 and 2 Kaiju sized hamsters! Who is the mysterious woman with the fun hat? What's the deal with the Great Value Ginyu Force? Join us for a pitch for a new show: The Saiyan Prince and Buu Heirs, and marvel at its potential storytelling heights such as Duu and Kuu asking Vegeta in a heartfelt way, "Why doesn't Arinsu want me?" (Yes this is a Fresh Prince spinoff sitcom...featuring VegeBull Hybis Duu and Kuu) What else are Jelli and Bekinney up to? Jelli is re-reading The Dark Tower, talks about The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, and gives thoughts on 2025's Wolf Man as well as 2024's Street Trash remake Bekinney is playing Final Fantasy 7, and gives thoughts on the anime and manga series Hajime no Ippo Wait, what? Are we okay? Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through the world of Daima and continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social