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Fire and Steel
Author: Toby Murrill
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Fire & Steel is a fully reforged podcast hosted by Toby Murrill, Chris Powell, and Onur Caglar. We dive into real workshop life, blacksmithing, bladesmithing, tool talk, making, content creation, and running small businesses in the modern maker world. Expect honest conversations, practical insight, fitness and lifestyle chat, social media realities, and a weekly segment where we debate tools we love, hate, or can’t live without. Same banter, stronger direction.
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Episode 3 — This week’s episode isa proper mix of workshop life, money talk, seasonal chaos, and the kind ofranting that only happens when you put three makers around microphones.💸 Toby’s Tesla Share AdventuresToby dives into hisongoing relationship with the stock market, gives an update on his Teslashares, and somehow makes investing sound equal parts sensible and chaotic.🦃 Chris Surviving Thanksgiving in the USChris gives us arundown of Thanksgiving from the American side — the food, the atmosphere, thetraditions, and why the whole holiday feels like the warm-up act to Christmas.🛍️ Chris vs. Black FridayChris also unloads onBlack Friday:– Fake deals– Rubbish discounts– Endless marketing noise– And why he’s completely over the whole thingPure Chris energy.📦 Delivery Companies Are Still RubbishWe share our courierhorror stories — delays, smashed boxes, missing parcels, lazy drivers — andwonder if any delivery company actually cares anymore.🛠️ Weekly Game: “What Tool Have You Bought MoreThan Once?”Some tools are sogood, so essential, or so frequently lost/broken that you end up buying themagain… and again.We reveal the ones we’ve repurchased and why.A solid Episode 3 fullof workshop reality, maker talk, rants, tools, and the usual Fire & Steelchaos. Support us at Patreon https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast or buy our merch tshirts stickers Find us athttps://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/murrillforge/ www.murrillforge.com Email info@murrillforge.co.uk Onur https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/user/DiesineveryfilmChris https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd
Episode 2We’re treating thisone as the real first episode of the reboot.Last week was the warm-up. This week we actually did it properly.🎙️ Who We Are — The Intro We Forgot to Do LastTimeSince we’re expectingnew listeners with the fresh format, we finally introduce ourselves properly:– Who we are– What we make– What we do on YouTube/social media– And why three very different makers ended up doing a podcast together📱 Social Media Talk — How We Actually Make MoneyOnlineWe dig into therealities of running workshops and running social media:– Where money actually comes from– The different ways we each approach content– What works for us, what doesn’t, what burns us out– Turning making into part of your livelihood without losing your mindHonest, blunt, and notas glamorous as people think.💪 Gym Chat & Christmas MotivationIt’s that time of yearwhen everyone suddenly decides to “get back on it.”We talk training, routines, Christmas chaos, and how a bit of fitness fits intoa maker’s lifestyle.🛠️ Segment of the Week: “What’s a SurprisinglyGood Tool?”This week’s picks: Why they made thelist, how we use them, and why they stand out. — The Reboot: New Format, New Energy, SameIdiots (Mostly) Support us at Patreon https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast or buy our merch tshirts stickers Find us athttps://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/murrillforge/ www.murrillforge.com Email info@murrillforge.co.uk Onur https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/user/DiesineveryfilmChris https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd
Episode 1 — TheReboot: New Format, New Energy, Same Idiots (Mostly) This week marks theofficial reboot of the podcast. After years of winging it, rambling, moaning,and generally hoping for the best, we’ve decided it’s time for a fresh start.The old format has been canned, the slate wiped clean, and we’re kicking off anew, more intentional and professional version of the show — without losing thebanter that got us here in the first place. In this first episodeof the new era we talk openly about why we’re changing things up:– We’ve outgrown the“hit record and hope” approach– We want betterconversations, better structure, and better value for listeners– We want to grow theaudience beyond just knife-makers and workshop nerds– And frankly… we werebored of listening to ourselves moan every week Then we get into thegood stuff. Segment: Laser Talk — LP5, XTool &BWM We little dive intothe LaserPecker 5, the XTool machines, the BWM fibre lasers, and thedifferences between diode and fibre setups. What each is good for, what’smarketing nonsense, and what’s actually worth your money if you’re a maker,small business, or YouTuber. Segment: “What’s the Worst Tool You’veEver Bought?” A new possiblerecurring segment where each of us confesses the most useless, disappointing,or rage-inducing tool we've ever spent money on. Some of these are shockers.One of us clearly still isn’t over it. What This Reboot Means We explain our goalfor the new series:– More structured,more thoughtful episodes– Actual workshopstalk that’s useful– Current affairs,business, content creation, and craft– Less ranting for thesake of it– A show sponsorswon’t run away from– And somethinglisteners can actually take value from each week It’s still us. Stillthe same humour. Still the same chaos in places. Just… grown up a bit.(But not too much —don’t worry, we kept Onur on a short leash this episode.) Support us at Patreon https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast or buy our merch tshirts stickers Find us athttps://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/murrillforge/ www.murrillforge.com Email info@murrillforge.co.uk Onur https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/user/DiesineveryfilmChris https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/Youtube https://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd
EP79 Onur and myself talk to Neels Van Den Berg about all the stuff. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/blackdragonforge/ Website http://blackdragonforge.com/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com Onur https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/Diesineveryfilm UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/
Ep 78 Knife making podcast EP78 Got wood episode with Onur, myself and Mark as we had some questions about timber. Don't forget to write in your questions for next weeks episode. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/deer_river_craftsman/ Website https://deerrivercraftsman.com/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com Onur https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/Diesineveryfilm UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/
EP77 Nick Rossi, forging knives for more of his life than not. Onur and I chat to nick about his years of teaching and some of the lessons he learned from it. Workshops, weight lifters and more. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nickrossiknives/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GymtIkrPXzE Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com Onur https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/Diesineveryfilm UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/
EP76 Onur and I talk abrasives with our expert Vinz from The UK Blade Show we try to make it a simple as possible to lay out exactly what belts are for what. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ukbladeshow/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgkE_PTsmeGE1xwX3-eFmFA UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP75 I chat with the ultimate student and possible master of knife sharpening. His YouTube channel is a big part responsible for my knowing how to sharpen a knife with a stone. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rykytran/ Website https://store.burrfection.com/?currency=GBP YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOluHMoKJ6CrS0kcybhaThg UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP74 ABS master smith Kevin Cashen joins Onur and Toby for a conversation about metallurgy, heat treat men and heaps more if you're looking to up your understanding of what's going on inside your blade during heat treatment then listen up. Links Kevin Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kevin.cashen/ Website https://cashenblades.com/ Onur Instagram https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJFLSBWL0djrsOrtpTuNIsw UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP73 Possibly the funniest podcast I remember in a while, Dan Moss and Onur Caglar were this weeks co-hosts with my self discussing workshop safety and safety gear. Links Dan Instagram https://www.instagram.com/iastudios_dan/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ3rO8Nb9I1p9Wh_lQ6ebew Onur Instagram https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJFLSBWL0djrsOrtpTuNIsw UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP72 Brilliant to catch up with the one and only Rodrigo Sfreddo again after a couple of years. His start out from working out of an actual wardrobe in his apartment. To becoming a master smith responsible for one of the greatest knife handle constructions of all time. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/r.sfreddoknives/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP71 This weeks guest was the highly skilled Steve Armstrong From Field and Steel, We talk about him growing up in a Wallace and Gromit type cellar and getting banned from a workshop for making it stink like death. Oh and knives and axes and stuff. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/field_and_steel/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP70 Fingal Joins me as co-host together we answer listeners question on the purpose of a hamon , favourite sausage, steel choices and loads more. I also find out what a pickleback is. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fingalferguson/ Website https://www.fingalfergusonknives.com/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
69, workshops and tools with Jezz and Onur 3 slightly broken men's point of view on how to set up a workshop and lessons learned from moving premises. Links Jezz Instagram https://www.instagram.com/oblivionblades/ Website https://oblivionblades.com/ Onur Instagram https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJFLSBWL0djrsOrtpTuNIsw Show sponsors UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
Ep68 This absolute gentleman Walter Sorrells was a pleasure to talk to, he has so much knowledge and an origin story to inspire. His YouTube videos have been responsible for more makers starting up that almost anything else apart from maybe Forged in Fire of which he was also on. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/walterstactix/ Website https://lnky.in/waltersorrells Show sponsors UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
Ep67 Dave is a fun guy to chat with and a prime example of how to grow a social media platform doing what you love all the while keeping your integrity. Check out his links below. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/daveerving_evaderknives/ Website https://www.evaderknives.com/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
Ep66 Joel and I speak about his training at Hereford and his reason he makes the sort of knives he does including why he adds emojis to his knives and where its going from here. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/joelblacksmith/ Website https://www.joelblackknives.com/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
Ep65 Jo was hysterical to chat to she's a young lady knife maker a real girly girl with a tough side making knives, dirt bike racing, horse riding. She was so fun to talk to and is coming to knife making from a completely different angle to anyone I've met. I'm really excited to watch her knife making grow over the next couple of years. Please go and follow her at the links below. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/skiskijo/ https://www.instagram.com/livtruenorth/ Website https://www.livtruenorth.com/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP64 Fingal Ferguson an extraordinary maker from Ireland. "when I first started out there was a next and eggs next to my grinder" "Part of me was like hey let's have fun with this, lets use sweetcorn handle material " "Knives were always on the back rung apart from my sanity lol" "every mess up of a knife has taught me something I think that you take those collection of mistakes and they become the elements of your boundaries and where you can take things" "Your name's Fingal you wanna make knives? Lets make an F with knives" Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fingalferguson/ Website https://www.fingalfergusonknives.com/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/
EP 63 It felt time to get an Aussie back on and who better than the one and only Jerarmie Heywood, steel supplier extraordinaire. This was a full interview right back to little tiny baby Jezz of old. Links Instagram https://www.instagram.com/oblivionblades/ Website https://oblivionblades.com/ UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/tobyfireandsteel/ https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/ Products and site www.tobyfireandsteel.com Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com TFS Knife maker Challenge Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/711126822742169/








Great Cast. Really enjoy listening to other makers and what energizes them and why they do what they do. Thanks Toby