Football Travel by Outside Write

My guest is Alan McDougall, whose latest book, Dreams and Songs to Sing, is a people's history of Liverpool FC. We discuss the club's role in the city and abroad, Liverpool's identity, and how the club's success has often been at odds with the city's fortunes. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

I am joined for a second time by Christopher Evans, author of Los Leones, the definitive biography in English of Athletic Club de Bilbao, to discuss the incredible story of several Basque refugee children who came to Britain to escape the Spanish Civil War and ended up becoming prominent footballers. This is the post I referenced in the interview about the Clapton Community Football Club International Brigades away shirt.  The second part of the podcast is a talk I gave recently on the history of football against fascism for Brigata Ultra Clapton and the Associazione Nazionale Partigiani d'Italia (ANPI - the National Italian Partisans' Association) Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

My guest is Rory Bryce from the Football Heritage website and podcast. We're looking at how clubs and nations are, or should, celebrate their football history. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Dr Pavel Brunssen from the University of Heidelberg in Germany. His new book explores four European clubs with a Jewish connection: Ajax, Bayern München, FK Austria Wien and Tottenham Hotspur. How did these identities come about, and why are they often problematic? Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

Latin Americanist, Dr Pete Watson from the University of Leeds in England, joins me for a record fifth appearance to discuss the cultural significance of Diego Armando Maradona ahead of the fifth anniversary of his passing later this year. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Eli Mengem from the YouTube channel, Copa90. We discuss his career highlights, such as the Copa Libertadores final that never was between Boca and River, and 'Once in a Lifetime' about Argentina's 2022 World Cup win. We also discuss his favourite groundhopping experiences and where he'd like to go but hasn't yet... Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

My guest is Shafik Meghji, author of Small Earthquakes, in which he explores British involvement and legacy in South America. The most prominent legacy is probably football, so we look at the pioneers in Argentina, Uruguay, Chile and beyond. Other podcasts we mention in this podcast include: Everton in England and Chile The Kentish Roots of Newell's Old Boys The Roots of Argentine Football Argentina v England at Mexico '86 Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Will Dalton, author of 'Oh, San Lorenzo', a new book all about San Lorenzo de Almagro, one of Argentina's traditional 'Big Five'. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

Tim Vickery is the leading English-language expert on Brazilian football. Tim joins me to discuss the current state of football in Brazil. We discuss a broad range of topics on contemporary Brazilian football, including the gentrification of the sport, the legacy of the 2014 World Cup, and the state of the national side. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football    

I welcome David Goldblatt onto the podcast to discuss his latest book, Injury Time: Football in a State of Emergency. We discuss the role of populism in football and also the changing economics of the game. Visit Outside Write for more football history.   Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, Substack and X   Check out Chris Lee's three books:   ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football    

My guest is journalist Joey D'Urso, whose new book, More Than a Shirt, explores the politics around 22 football shirts from across the world.   Visit Outside Write for more football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, Substack and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Jay Mwamba, author of Crash of the Buffalo, which explores the tragic story of the 1993 air crash that killed many of the promising Zambian national side. We look at the players involved, the incident itself, and how the nation recovered in the aftermath of the disaster.   Visit Outside Write for more football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, Substack and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

I am joined by Seán McCabe, climate justice officer at Bohemian FC, and club historian Gerry Farrell to discuss the history and culture of Dublin's oldest surviving football club. We look at the club's long history of progressive social activism, discuss its fan-ownership model, and - of course - talk about the marketing power of its shirts. Visit Outside Write for more football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, Substack and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

My guest is Rodrigo Barneschi from São Paulo, Brazil. His book, Outsiders: A Football Fanatic's South American Odyssey, has been translated into English and explores the experience of an away fan in South America.  Rodrigo and I discuss fan culture across the continent, from the 'torcidas' of Brazil to the 'barra brava' of Argentina and Uruguay.

My guest is Will Huddleston, a PhD student of Latin American studies at the University of Cambridge. Will studied the relationship between national identity and football in Uruguay while in Montevideo. It's a fascinating conversation...

My guest is Argentinian football writer Luciano Wernicke, whose latest book 'The Dark Side of the Copa Libertadores' explores the murkier side of South American club football's premier tournament.

My guest is Ronny Blaschke, whose latest book 'Football and Racism' explores the relationship between football and colonialism. We look at football's role in the European colonial past, including the British, French, and German empires. What is their legacy today?

My guest is Matt Coughlan, author of Groundhopper: Tales from Football's Equivalent of Trainspotting. Matt's new book explores the experience of visiting 100 football grounds, focusing on non-league and less mainstream clubs, sparked by his disillusionment with Arsenal and the Premier League.

My guest is Matt Oldroyd from the Nottingham Forest fan group, Forza Garibaldi. Matt's new book, Trailblazers, explores the history of one of the world's oldest and most historically significant football clubs, two-times European champions Nottingham Forest. We look at what the club - and the city of Nottingham - has contributed to the game in England and worldwide.

My guest is Richard Hough, author of Verona Campione, a new book about Hellas Verona's surprise 1985 Scudetto win. We also discuss the ultrà scene in Verona, and the city's other clubs, Chievo and Virtus.  After my chat with Richard, I've tagged on a talk I gave recently on football against fascism in Italy before and during World War II, recorded at Manchester's Festa della Liberazione.