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Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by a champion of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.
Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!


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In 2005, the Sydney Swans ended the longest premiership drought in VFL/AFL history and Leo Barry entered footy folklore. Leo reveals he stills feels a "tingle up the spine" as he recalls his heroics and thinks he would have marked the ball "7 out of 10" times. 17 years later, the Swans are striving for their sixth flag and Barry even admits the man standing at full forward now, Lance Franklin, has exceeded the impact of the greatest goal kicker of all-time, Tony Lockett. Join the 2005 premiership Swan and host Shane McInnes as they discuss Sydney's drought breaking premiership on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Heading into the 2004 season, the Brisbane Lions were on a quest to become just the second club in VFL/AFL history to win four premierships in a row. In this episode, Jason Akermanis shares his disappointment with the AFL, revealing he still believes the league didn't want the Lions to win four flags in a row, which is why they were made to play their "home" preliminary final against Geelong at the MCG. While they ultimately got over the line against the Cats, the Lions ran out of steam the following week against Port Adelaide and lost the grand final. Join the 2001 Brownlow medallist and host Shane McInnes as they discuss the 2004 preliminary final between Brisbane and Geelong, on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In 2007, for just the fifth time in VFL/AFL history, a final ended in a draw. In this episode, Travis Cloke breaks down how the Pies knocked out the Eagles in straight sets. The former Pie laughs at the poor goal kicking to start the game and how it complemented his career, how that inevitably led to his retirement and admits he believes he left "200 goals out there". He jokingly blames a teammate for the 2011 grand final loss and explains why the AFL needs to change the rules of a draw in the home and away season. Join the 2010 Collingwood premiership player and host Shane McInnes as they re-live this finals classic, on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The first week of finals is often said to symbolise the start of a "new" season, but elimination finals in 2004 and 2006 also symbolise two of the longest finals droughts in footy involving Essendon and Melbourne. Brad Green played in both those games and, in this episode, reveals why he has no sympathy for Essendon not winning a final since 2004 and how that match provided one of Neale Daniher's most inspirational speeches.The current Melbourne board member also gives his thoughts on the pre-finals bye and which teams he thinks stand in the way of the Demons' back-to-back aspirations.Join Brad Green and host Shane McInnes as they re-live two of the most recent footy finals droughts, on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In the 70s and 80s, the Magpies became known for the "Colliwobbles" as they were unable to salute on grand final day. Standing in Collingwood's way on three occasions in that period was Carlton, which took the already fierce rivalry to another level. In this episode, David 'Swan' McKay and Tony Shaw re-live some of the most iconic moments in footy history, like the iconic Harmes slap back into play (was it still in play!?) and what should "never have happened" in the Pies' three-quarter-time huddle in the 1981 decider that led to their demise. Shaw also opens up on a missed opportunity that would have seen him coaching at the Blues and the pair discuss the current rivalry, and whether it's as big as it has ever been.Join the four-time premiership Blue, Collingwood's 1990 premiership captain and host Shane McInnes as they discuss the AFL's most traditional rivalry, on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In the 2000 AFL season, the Demons were on the path to try and bring the club its first premiership in 36 years. That grand final tilt started with a tight qualifying final against the Blues. In this episode, David Schwarz re-lives the three-quarter-time speech from then-coach Neale Daniher that day, saying "you needed an umbrella he spat that much" and if the current Demons had the forward line from 2000 "they'd be unbeatable". The man known as "The Ox" also shared his thoughts on "the biggest issue" in the game, saying gambling is decimating local football clubs, in particular men aged 17 to 21. Join the 1999 Melbourne best and fairest winner and host Shane McInnes as they re-live the last time the Dees and Blues faced off in September, on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In 2009, the Cats were on the path to redemption after their shock grand final loss to the Hawks the year before. In this episode, Cameron Mooney explains why he's spent most years since "kicking himself" for his own failure in the 2008 decider and why it led to a very emotional post-game celebration in 2009. He lifts the lid on the Tom Hawkins "goal" and how he helped convince the umpire it didn't hit the post. The premiership forward also shares his thoughts on why the current Cats are a "different Geelong" to recent years and why they are in the box seat for another flag in 2022. Join the "Big Hairy Cat" and host Matt Granland on Footy: Then and Now.--------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, we are joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jason Johnson admits his teammates couldn't even look at each other in the eye at quarter-time. It was Round 16, 2001, and North Melbourne was well and truly clear of reigning premier Essendon. The Roos quickly shot out to a 69-point lead, early in the second term. But the Bombers weren't done. Far from it. Johnson, who won Essendon's best and fairest that year, helped spark the Bombers into action as they pulled off the greatest comeback of all-time. In this episode, Johnson also reflects on the current state of the Bombers and how they need to find a more ruthless edge. Join the 2000 premiership Bomber and host Shane McInnes as they re-live the greatest come-from-behind victory in the AFL history on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hawthorn and North Melbourne met three times in the grand final in the late 1970s. In the lead-up to the first of those meetings, in 1975, the Hawks learned they'd be without captain Peter Crimmins after the match committee opted to leave him out of the side as he battled testicular cancer. Don Scott was in that meeting and, in this episode, explains what went down. He also lifts the lid on John Kennedy's iconic "Don't Think, Do!" speech at half-time and why it didn't work. The Hawthorn Team of the Century ruckman also shares his desire for the modern player to more accessible to the public and rips into the AFL's handling of grassroots football. Join the three-time premiership Hawk and host Shane McInnes as they reflect on Hawthorn's first golden era on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Carlton's 1995 premiership triumph took the Blues to a record 16 flags, a tally still yet to be topped. In this episode, Ang Christou breaks down Carlton's season of brilliance, saying up until then, they had been easy beats and that if it wasn't for him Anthony Koutoufides wouldn't have been the player he was. He also explains the handing over of the iconic "WOOF" chant to a current Blue, who had lived next door to him as a kid, asking for kicking advice.Join the 1995 premiership defender and host Shane McInnes as they re-live Carlton's last premiership on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
It almost seemed impossible at the time. Essendon was in the midst of one of footy's greatest patches of dominance, flying again in the 2001 season after their historic 2000 premiership. But in Round 10, 2001, the Brisbane Lions proved the Bombers could bleed. And they quickly got a taste for it. In this episode, Leigh Matthews explains the story behind his use of a well-known Arnold Schwarzenegger quote in the build-up to that game and how it helped spur the Lions to the first of their three successive premierships against the same club that season. He also expresses his concerns about the AFL expanding to 19 teams and why Alastair Clarkson might not be the answer for clubs looking for a new coach. Join the four-time premiership coach and host Matt Granland as they discuss Brisbane's breakthrough flag on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Footy Then and Now is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sydney's thrilling preliminary final win over Essendon in 1996 remains one of the club's most famous. It was Rodney Eade's first year as coach. In this episode, the man known as "Rocket" explains why he had doubts as Tony Lockett lined up for goal after the siren, how that match was the night Sydney accepted the Swans, as well as who he'd choose between Plugger and Lance 'Buddy' Franklin.He also addresses the main issues he sees in today's games, the advice he would give the AFL and what he would do if he was in charge of the league's umpiring department.Join the football Hall of Famer and host Shane McInnes as they discuss one of the most famous 'misses' of all-time on Footy: Then and Now. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
There haven't been many fiercer competitors in footy history than Kevin Sheedy. And the West Coast Eagles have certainly been one of his rivals in those 50 years. In this chat, the four-time premiership coach breaks down some of footy's most iconic moments; the jacket wave in 1993, the 'slitting the throat' gesture to Mitchell White in 2000 and his final game as Essendon coach at Subiaco in 2007. He shares his thoughts on James Hird's retirement, his shock new location for a home and away game in the coming years and what he would do to players getting into trouble using social media.Join the Essendon immortal and host Shane McInnes as they discuss three decades of football rivalry on Footy: Then and Now.  --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
West Coast was out to make amends after suffering grand final heartbreak in 1991. And make amends they certainly did. The Eagles lifted their first premiership cup in 1992, defeating a Geelong side full of stars. Thirty years on from that triumph, gun forward Peter Sumich tells of the Eagles’ ambition to go to Victoria and "steal" their cup, his contrast of having the yips early in the game to the elation he has never felt since after kicking his sixth goal.He opens up about the "embarrassing" Eagles of 2022 and the changes he would like to see in the relationship between players and umpires.Join the two-time premiership Eagle and host Shane McInnes as they unpack the first ever non-Victorian AFL premiership. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ahead of the 1999 preliminary final, Essendon was seen as a virtual certainty against Carlton. Few gave the Blues much hope of making the grand final. But then Carlton president John Elliott certainly did. Anthony Koutoufides takes you inside the Carlton rooms that day on this episode of Footy: Then and Now. Kouta describes what was going through his head at three-quarter-time before he unleashed one of the greatest quarters seen in a final, as well as the huge offers that came his way after it. He also had a surprising view about whether the 2022 Blues would measure up against the 1999 side that made the grand final. And he's very up front when asked who he'd like to see as Carlton president. Join the 1995 premiership star and host Shane McInnes as they discuss what is still regarded as one of the greatest individual efforts in a final in AFL history. --------------------------------------------------------------------Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hawthorn was given little chance of beating Collingwood in the 2011 preliminary final, but the Hawks found themselves three goals in front at three-quarter-time. For the first time, Josh Gibson reveals how he found himself dreaming about playing in the grand final the following week and how he felt when Collingwood's "feral army" erupted after his direct opponent, Travis Cloke, put the Pies in front as the Hawks suffered heartbreak. He also explained why he was initially concerned with Sam Mitchell taking over from Alastair Clarkson as coach of the Hawks.Join the three-time premiership Hawk and host Shane McInnes as they discuss the game Gibson says was the "foundation" of Hawthorn's triple premiership success.-------------------------------------------------------------------- Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead!Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In just his third AFL season, Gavin Wanganeen won the Brownlow Medal and helped lead the ‘Baby Bombers’ to an unexpected premiership in 1993. But just a few years later, he broke the hearts of Essendon fans by moving to the AFL's newest club, the Port Adelaide Power. On this episode of Footy: Then and Now, Wanganeen reflects on the advice he received from Indigenous 'pioneers' of the game as a youngster as he tried to make his way in the game. And, in turn, the advice he gives to young players in today's game, including his own son, Tex, who is in his first year at the Bombers. Wanganeen also shared his thoughts on the Port Adelaide 'prison bar' jumper situation, sharing an interesting thought about another Power guernsey he'd like to see worn. Join the two-time premiership player and host Shane McInnes as they reflect on one of the greatest careers an Indigenous footballer has had in the game. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead! Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The 2007 AFL grand final was history-making for a number of reasons. Not only did Geelong snap a 44-year premiership drought, the Cats also inflicted the biggest grand final defeat in the game's history, smashing Port Adelaide by a record 119 points. Steve Johnson was the best player in that game. But it could have easily never happened, with the livewire forward exiled from the club at the start of that season. In this chat, Johnson details his determination to turn his career around, how he predicted his own Norm Smith medal win and how kicking competitions for lollies and soft drinks led to the "Stevie J snap" from set shots, now one of the game's most prominent kicks. Join us, as the three-time premiership player and host Shane McInnes re-live the match that saw the birth of one of the AFL's "greatest teams of all". -------------------------------------------------------------------- Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round.Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead! Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Round 14, 2009… Never before had two teams met undefeated this late in the season. St Kilda were the hunters and Geelong, the hunted.The Saints burst out of the blocks, booting the first five goals of the game in front of a record crowd of 54,444 at Docklands. But the Cats were never going away. They tied scores up with just a few minutes to go. Justin Koschitzke re-lives the build-up to the most anticipated home and away game in recent memory, details his thoughts on why the Saints haven’t been able to climb back up the ladder in more than a decade and is very raw in revealing the toll concussion has taken on his post-football life and the everyday battles he has with mental health issues. Join us as Justin Koschitzke and host Matt Granland unpack what was later branded the greatest home and away match in AFL history. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Each Wednesday, we are joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round. Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead! Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Round 11, 2004… The Hawks had not beaten the Bombers since 1997, and by half-time that didn't look like changing. Hawthorn coach Peter Schwab had seen enough. What followed the main break would become arguably the most famous brawl in AFL history, with a record 26 charges laid against a record 18 players. Essendon great Matthew Lloyd details the lack of respect his club had for the Hawks at the time, while former Hawthorn forward John Barker shares the origins of the "line in the sand" being drawn in the rooms at half-time. Join us as Matthew Lloyd, John Barker and host Shane McInnes unpack the match that set these two teams on two different paths. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Each Wednesday, Shane McInnes is joined by champions of the game to step down memory lane and discuss a momentous edition of a corresponding match of that round. Never-before-heard stories about iconic footy moments, life after footy, and plenty of banter and insight to get you hyped for the round ahead! Don't miss an episode: Follow/Subscribe to Footy: Then and Now on your podcast platform of choice today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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