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"Frame of Reference - Profiles in Leadership" and "Frame of Reference - Coming together" are conversational style shows with local, national, and global experts about issues that affect all of us in some way. I’m, at heart, a “theatre person”. I was drawn to theatre in Junior High School and studied it long enough to get a Master of Fine Arts in Stage Direction. It’s the one thing that I’m REALLY passionate about it because as Shakespeare noted, “all the world’s a stage and all the men and women merely players”. Think about the universality of that line for just a moment. Think about the types of “theatre” that play out around us every day in today’s world. The dramatic, the comedic, the absurd, the existential, the gorilla theatre (it’s a thing, look it up) that is pumped into our Smart Phones, TV’s, Radios, and PC’s every minute of every day.
Think about the tremendous forces that “play” upon us - trying to first discover, then channel, feed, nurture, and finally harvest our will power and biases in order to move forward the agendas of leaders we will likely never meet. Think of all these forces (behind the scenes of course) and how they use the basic tools of theatre to work their “magic” on the course of humanity. Emotionally charged content matched to carefully measured and controlled presentations.
With that in mind (and to hopefully counter the more insidious agendas), I bring you the Frame of Reference "Family" of podcasts, where the voices of our local and global leadership can share their passion for why and how they are leaders in their community and in many cases, the world. Real players with real roles in a world of real problems. No special effects, no hidden agenda, just the facts and anecdotes that make a leader.
And at the risk of sounding trite, I sincerely thank my wife Ann and my two children Elisabeth and Josiah for continually teaching me what leadership SHOULD look like.
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Send us a text What if paying protesters made movements more honest instead of less? We sit down with Adam Swart, CEO of Crowds on Demand, to unpack how compensated advocacy actually works, why protests are context builders rather than public headcounts, and how to navigate a media ecosystem that rewards outrage over nuance. Adam pulls back the curtain on strategy: where you rally, what you say, and how you craft visuals—all to reach the second audience that never shows up in person but decid...
Send us a text What happens when you strip away ego and embrace humility as your guiding principle? David Price's extraordinary journey from twenty years of drug addiction to becoming a millionaire insurance entrepreneur provides a powerful answer. David's story begins at rock bottom – homeless, broke, and battling an addiction that had consumed two decades of his life. After getting clean in 2013, he faced the daunting question that confronts many in recovery: what now? By 2018, he had obta...
Send us a text When global tensions flare, it's often what's happening behind the scenes that matters most. In this thought-provoking episode, we dig into the complex relationship between domestic politics and international conflicts, focusing on the recent escalation between Israel and Iran. We begin by examining the abandoned Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) – the Iran Nuclear Deal that once provided structure and accountability in the region. The systematic dismantling of this d...
Send us a text "What's going on today in our world?" asks Rauel as he and Antowan dive deep into one of the most controversial pieces of legislation currently making waves across America – the so-called "Big Beautiful Bill." This powerful conversation exposes the troubling psychology behind American politics today, where questioning has become threatening and dissent is immediately silenced. As Antowan points out, "The country has fallen under this dark psychology spell, man, and tactic afte...
Send us a text Jim Carlough, accomplished business strategist and author, shares his six pillars of effective leadership, emphasizing integrity as the foundation that makes all other leadership qualities possible. Through compelling stories from his 30-year career, he demonstrates how integrity combined with empathy creates environments where people thrive even through difficult transitions. • Integrity means staying on the center line of your ethical code, never straying too far left or rig...
Send us a text What happens when Olympic-level athleticism meets theatrical creativity? Kerstin Schulze embodies this fascinating intersection, sharing her remarkable journey from winning a Junior Olympics silver medal in heptathlon at age 12 to her current role as a kung fu nanny on HBO's "The Righteous Gemstones." The conversation reveals Kerstin's refreshing philosophy on balance—something she discovered after years of competitive bodybuilding taught her that stage-ready physiques often r...
Send us a text Democracy stands at a pivotal crossroads with the introduction of the SAVE Act (Safeguard Americans Voter Eligibility Act), a deceptively named piece of legislation that threatens to fundamentally alter who can participate in our electoral process. Hosts Rauel LaBreche and Antowan Hallmon Sr. pull back the curtain on this dangerous federal bill, exposing how it would require documentary proof of citizenship that approximately 21 million Americans simply don't have access to. T...
Send us a text What happens when we allow catchy slogans and fear-based rhetoric to shape our understanding of diversity and inclusion? Rauel and Antowan tackle this question head-on as they dissect the troubling misconceptions surrounding DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies in America. The duo doesn't shy away from uncomfortable truths, examining how phrases like "We Will Die by DEI" manipulate emotions and bypass critical thinking. They highlight alarming Federal data showing w...
Send us a text The weaponization of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion has become one of the most troubling developments in our current cultural and political landscape. We dive deep into how DEI—a framework designed to create more representative and equitable institutions—has been deliberately transformed into a divisive political issue through coordinated misinformation campaigns. Our conversation reveals how conservative voices have successfully reframed DEI initiatives as threats to "tradi...
Send us a text Democratic Representative Al Green stood up during Trump's congressional address and declared "no mandate" when Trump claimed a mandate to cut Medicaid. For this truth-telling, Green was escorted out and later censured—with even ten Democrats joining the rebuke. This incident exposes a disturbing double standard: when Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" at Obama, or when Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly interrupted Biden's addresses, they faced no similar consequences. The contrast...
Send us a text The recent neo-Nazi incident in Evaondale, Ohio, shocked many and has raised critical conversations about the current state of race relations in America. As a group of white supremacists displayed their flags strategically across a bridge leading into a primarily Black neighborhood, the community was left grappling with fear and outrage. This episode of our podcast unpacks the layers of this alarming event, observing the immediate impacts on families, especially the children wh...
Send us a text What can we learn from the bond between humans and dogs? Discover how the loving relationships we share with our pets can teach us about unity, cooperation, and understanding in our own communities. Join us as Rauel and Antowan lead a conversation on transcending unnecessary conflicts and tensions, focusing on the power of love and mutual support to achieve remarkable success. With Black History Month as a backdrop, we reflect on the pivotal lessons history imparts and how such...
Send us a text Picture this: You're all set to record the perfect podcast episode, but just as the conversation gets going, you realize the camera isn't on. We kick things off with a light-hearted tale of our own technical challenges before diving into the serious issue of climate change, inspired by Wisconsin's unusually warm weather. This episode isn't just about environmental impacts; it's about understanding the human reluctance to face uncomfortable truths and the societal implications w...
Send us a text What if the very beliefs you hold dear are rooted in deception? Join us as we unravel the complex web of lies and manipulation that shape our society. We start with a light-hearted look at the weather in Wisconsin, contrasting it with the timeless, uplifting truths of the gospel. Our discussion navigates through the slippery landscapes of political promises and misleading advertisements, exposing the tactics used to control and divide us. We emphasize the importance of followin...
Send us a text Have you ever been thrown a curveball in life and wondered how to knock it out of the park? Join me, Rauel Labrèche, as I engage in a heartwarming and enlightening conversation with Mike Coy, a man whose life epitomizes turning trials into triumphs. From swinging bats to shaping futures, Mike's journey from an aspiring baseball player to a financial planner with a zealous commitment to mentorship unfolds. You'll be let in on our personal banter during a rousing round of 'my fav...
Send us a text When my brother Antowan Hallman Sr. and I began to peel back the layers of our faith, we encountered prayer in a way that was anything but expected. Join us as we navigate the profound shifts from our Catholic upbringing to an evangelical faith that thrums with the pulse of the Holy Spirit's work. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's an invitation to witness how prayer can dramatically shape one's personal journey and the world at large. The fervor of our prayers often...
Send us a text Happy Memorial Day everyone - and to any Veterans out there that might listen - Thank you for your service. I keep bringing this episode back for two reasons: 1) We need to remember the profound significance of this day. This is one day where any other self label (Dem, Rep - whatever) must be placed in the backseat so that we all just call ourselves Americans with a shared debt to those we sent off to war. Back in 2019 I was honored by being invited to...
Send us a text This week Antowan and I come together in a candid conversation, we tackle the pressing issue of our nation's division and the discomfort surrounding the name of Jesus Christ in today's culture. We feel the urgency to rekindle the inclusive and compassionate core of Christ's teachings, a topic that resonates deeply with those who yearn for unity amidst the fray. Our heartfelt discourse delves into the need for a collective embrace of these values, transcending political li...
Send us a text Have you ever wondered what it takes to outmaneuver a billion-dollar corporation on Google's battleground? This isn't just a pipe dream, but a reality for SEO maestro Damon Burton, who joins us to share the electrifying saga of his ascension from car enthusiast to digital marketing virtuoso. Buckle up as we unravel Damon's story, where the sheer tenacity of a man and the transformative power of SEO collide, leading to a thriving business that champions the underdog. Turning po...
Send us a text Weathering the storms of Wisconsin's unpredictable climate, we find ourselves grappling with the headaches of allergies and the heat of a nation's fervent debate on voting rights. Within this episode, Antowan and I draw back the curtain on the tumultuous political theater where the cornerstone of democracy—our right to vote—is under siege. From the systemic barricades to fair access, to combating the hallucinogenic drug of voter fraud, we promise a journey through the complex l...
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