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Terry Rich is a successful CEO and President. He led the team that busted the largest lottery fraud in U.S. history, was a guest on Johnny Carson’s “Tonight Show”, ran a zoo, and gave away $1 Billion.During his appointment by three Governors, his leadership increased lottery sales and profits by 50%. He also led the Blank Park Zoo to profitability from a $600,000 deficit while positioning it as the second largest attended attraction in the state.Show Notes:Terry SpeaksTerry's LinkedinHot Lotto Fraud ScandalEddie Tipton ParolEddie Tipton ReleasedTerry on end of Hot Lotto Scandal
Cynthia Navarro aka West Coast Cynthia is our guest. Cynthia is an OSMOSIS Association President, OSINT Analyst, and Private Investigator. We discuss Cynthia's cases and strategies, open source intelligence, and why horses are a pink flag. Show Notes:Cynthia's LinkedinFinnegan's Way TwitterOsmosis OSINT Cocktail Podcast
Staci Dresher defies the belief that most Investigators hold about Attorney-Investigators. Staci and Kelly discuss the importance of storytelling in investigations, open source intelligence, favorite workplace investigations, and much more on todays episode of Fraudish. Show Notes:Staci's Linkedin Association of Workplace Investigators
Edward Ajaeb, of Nighthawk Strategies, a professional investigation firm that uses modern technology and effective strategies to deliver fast, reliable and accurate intelligence. Show Notes : LinkedinTweet BeaverTweet Topic ExplorerKitty Haley PI Perspectives PodcastPI's Declassified PodcastHeist DocumentaryFear City 
Marta is the co-founder of NOFRAUD.  NOFRAUD uses AI, data analytics and a library of over 90k terms related to the Fraud Triangle. This is a fascinating area of work to proactively risk score.  It is a tool for fraud professionals to utilize in their work.  
This week on Fraudish, we get to learn from and about the most VIP guest of all: Kelly Paxton. Recent Fraudish guest, and interviewer extraordinaire, Jen Hoar, makes a cameo as host of the show, asking Kelly about what cases still bother her, why she considers herself a "fraud therapist" and how a perennial dissatisfaction with things that don't make sense inspire her to dig and dig until they do. Don't miss this dialogue between two limitlessly curious investigators and conversationalists!Show Notes:Yoga to the People FraudPortrait of an Unknown WomanJen Hoar LinkedinDan McCrum Linkedin
Diann Cattani

Diann Cattani

2022-10-1838:23

Great Women in Fraud is now Fraudish! Want to help us shape 2023? Let me know.Diann Cattani was an up and coming young professional. What started as a mistake, billing a personal trip on the company card (not by Diann but the travel agency) turned into a $450,000 embezzlement.  Diann provides her back story as an All American good girl and how the embezzlement changed her and her family and victim’s lives.  There’s Dr. Phil, company culture, personal and professional relationships (#trustisnotaninternalcontrol).  Also, don’t have your employees walk your dogs! Show notes:https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB117770695484085199 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB117770695484085199)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQEwT5_uFw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQEwT5_uFw)https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianncattani/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianncattani/)https://money.cnn.com/2011/11/30/smallbusiness/con_artist/index.htm (https://money.cnn.com/2011/11/30/smallbusiness/con_artist/index.htm)https://www.deseret.com/2011/3/6/20177489/greed-is-no-respecter-of-persons-y-grad-convicted-felon-shares-her-cautionary-tale (https://www.deseret.com/2011/3/6/20177489/greed-is-no-respecter-of-persons-y-grad-convicted-felon-shares-her-cautionary-tale)Kelly Paxton is a Certified Fraud Examiner, Private Investigator, and Professional Speaker. In 2020 she published Embezzlement: How to Prevent, Detect and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime.Connect with her on https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/ (Linkedin) or https://twitter.com/pdxcfe (Twitter)
Francine McKenna

Francine McKenna

2022-10-1155:31

Great Women in Fraud is now Fraudish! Want to help us shape 2023? Let me know.Francine's latest venture is Accounting Lecturer full-time https://twitter.com/Wharton (@Wharton). I can't imagine how lucky her students are. We first met via Twitter and I have fan girl'd her ever since. This interview is full of all things fraud. You must listen to her story. She really has seen so much and used that to bring attention to what matters. Be sure to follow her on Twitter. Writer, speaker, CPA. Using tools instead of tools using me. https://twitter.com/marketwatch (@marketwatch)Philadelphia, MXDF, Chicagohttps://t.co/rfN5ahkgGW (thedig.substack.com)Key resources- https://twitter.com/retheauditors (https://twitter.com/retheauditors)https://thedig.substack.com/ (https://thedig.substack.com/)https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinemckenna/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinemckenna/)Kelly Paxton is a Certified Fraud Examiner, Private Investigator, and Professional Speaker. In 2020 she published Embezzlement: How to Prevent, Detect and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime.Connect with her on https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/ (Linkedin) or https://twitter.com/pdxcfe (Twitter)
Great Women in Fraud is now Fraudish! Want to help us shape 2023? Let me know.Hailey Windham, Certified Financial Crime Specialist (CFCS)Hailey has 8+ years of experience at financial institutions. She has  developed enterprise-wide comprehensive financial crimes risk management programs. Hailey sees the benefits in assessing  fraud risk at financial services.She is leading the way at her employer by providing mitigation suggestions to prevent customer impact and financial loss. She has expertise in leading large-scale fraud prevention initiatives through effective employee and customer training and prevention awareness. She even started an internal podcast because she is such a fan of Fraudish.Kelly Paxton is a Certified Fraud Examiner, Private Investigator, and Professional Speaker. In 2020 she published Embezzlement: How to Prevent, Detect and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime.Connect with her on https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/ (Linkedin) or https://twitter.com/pdxcfe (Twitter)
Great Women in Fraud is now Fraudish! Want to help us shape 2023? Let me know.Jen is a former journalist-turned-corporate investigator who has leveraged the potent act of asking, and listening, to turn strangers into sources and contacts into clients. Jen’s expertise, and passion, is identifying and interviewing smart people who know more than she does about any given topic, to learn as much as possible to inform clients’ executive decision-making.Harnessing her experience as a journalist and business intelligence practitioner, Jen has developed a Human Intelligence for Business training for entrepreneurs, sales, private equity, business development and legal professionals. Jen is also interested in moderating panels, guest-hosting podcasts and serving on investigative industry and/or non-profit boards.Resources:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-h-26a7bb6/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-h-26a7bb6/)https://www.forwardrisk.com/ (https://www.forwardrisk.com/)https://www.forwardrisk.com/team/jen-hoar/ (https://www.forwardrisk.com/team/jen-hoar/)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-six-levels-down/id1455379351?i=1000555532510 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-six-levels-down/id1455379351?i=1000555532510)https://www.hbo.com/the-jinx-robert-durst (https://www.hbo.com/the-jinx-robert-durst)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/intelligence-matters/id1286906615 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/intelligence-matters/id1286906615)https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-say-strangers-subway-want-chat-not-all-strangers-180952086/ (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-say-strangers-subway-want-chat-not-all-strangers-180952086/)Kelly Paxton is a Certified Fraud Examiner, Private Investigator, and Professional Speaker. In 2020 she published Embezzlement: How to Prevent, Detect and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime.Connect with her on https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/ (Linkedin) or https://twitter.com/pdxcfe (Twitter)
Jen was an integral part of the Lizzie Mulder case out of Orange County. You may remember Mulder from American Greed and Pink Collar Crimes with Marcia Clark. Jen’s career changed when she worked with the detective working this #pinkcollarcrime case. Listen to how she pivoted to fraud and forensics investigations and the silver lining that came out of her interactions with a serial fraudster.Jen has more than 20 years of professional experience in accounting, operations, and data management, returned to school to pursue a profession in Forensic Accounting and Digital/Data Analytics. Graduated with nearly a perfect GPA (3.91), from Florida Atlantic University with a Master's of Forensic Accounting/Digital Forensics and Data Analytics.Additional Resources:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-r-forensicacct/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-r-forensicacct/)https://www.withum.com/ (https://www.withum.com/)https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/tn-dpt-me-mulder-sentencing-20171017-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/tn-dpt-me-mulder-sentencing-20171017-story.html)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/queen-of-the-con/id1583019312 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/queen-of-the-con/id1583019312)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZRLQnV254 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZRLQnV254)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au4m68ESZNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au4m68ESZNk)
Alison works on challenges at the intersection of corporate integrity, risk and responsibility. She is  the Executive Director of Ethical Systems, which is part of NYU Stern School of Business and is a collaboration between leading academics working on behavioral science, systems thinking and organizational psychology. Alison is  currently writing a book for HBR Press on how the landscape for business ethics is transforming.She has advised hundreds of large multinational companies on strategy, sustainability, political and social risk, culture and behavior, human rights, ethics and compliance, stakeholder engagement, ESG, and anti-corruption. I regularly speak and write on all aspects of business responsibility and ethics. I’ve written articles in Harvard Business Review, WSJ, Quartz, Reuters, Barron's,, and Forbes, and am quoted in New York Times, Financial Times, Time, Axios, Bloomberg, NBC News, Strategy + Business, Foreign Policy, Fortune, Voice of America, and Politico. I guest lecture for sustainability, business, public policy, political science and law graduate students all over the place.Lots more on Twitter @https://twitter.com/FollowAlisonT (FollowAlisonT)Resources.https://twitter.com/EthicalSystems (https://twitter.com/EthicalSystems)https://www.ethicalsystems.org/alison-taylor/ (https://www.ethicalsystems.org/alison-taylor/)https://www.ethicalsystems.org/meet-alison-taylor-ethical-systems-new-executive-director/ (https://www.ethicalsystems.org/meet-alison-taylor-ethical-systems-new-executive-director/)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-the-fever/id1510944005 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-the-fever/id1510944005)https://www.ethicalsystems.org/incentives/ (https://www.ethicalsystems.org/incentives/)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilla%27s_Sense_of_Snow_(film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilla%27s_Sense_of_Snow_(film))https://yourewrongabout.com/ (https://yourewrongabout.com/)https://freakonomics.com/podcast/are-women-really-less-happy-than-men/ (https://freakonomics.com/podcast/are-women-really-less-happy-than-men/)
Jessica Cath works with FinTechs, RegTechs and traditional financial institutions to apply technology in new ways and constantly seek better solutions to combat the risk of financial crime, stay compliant with regulations and improve operational efficiency.Jessica is passionate about financial crime prevention, super high quality project delivery and effective operational processes - anything that prevents crime, whilst making our job easier and simpler. She is currently building FINTRAIL's growing consulting team and internal operating model. Show  Notes:Jessica's LinkedinFINTRAIL TwitterDeath in Paradise TV Series KYC360The Laundry NewsThe Wolfsberg GroupKGB Banker BookEthical SystemsCredit Suisse LeakRed Notice BookGraham Barrow's Linkedin
Episode 84 Jami Rice

Episode 84 Jami Rice

2022-06-2834:51

Jami Rice is the creator of Dirty Money Moves and Murderish. Her life changed from banking to podcasts when Mary Carole McDonnell showed up at Jami's bank and ripped them off to the tune of $15 million dollars.  This wasn’t the first time Mary Carole McDonnell  had ripped people off.  Jami found her calling doing podcasts about true crime.  Show notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamirice/https://murderishpodcast.threadless.com/https://twitter.com/MurderishPodhttps://twitter.com/dirtymoneymoveshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dirty-money-moves-women-in-white-collar-crime/id1619521092
Episode 83 Missy Coyne

Episode 83 Missy Coyne

2022-06-2141:23

Missy Coyne, NICB Regional Learning and Development Facilitator at National Insurance Crime Bureau. Missy was a Baltimore County County Detective for 33 years. She has been with the NICB for the past 6 years doing training and investigations.  Show Notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/marjorie-missy-coyne-46041939/https://www.nicb.org/https://www.iafci.org/
Karisse Hendrick of the Fraudology podcast and I talk shop including our origin stories, how the field of fraud takes a lot of curiosity and so much more.  I think you will enjoy this episode. Karisse is an Award-Winning Cyberfraud Expert; Ecommerce Fraud Prevention Consultant; Chargeback Geek; Host of the Fraudology Podcast; and Startup Advisor. Show Notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/karissehendrick/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fraudology-podcast/id1530461089
Debra Geister has twenty plus years of business, consulting, marketing and communications experience in addition to anti-money laundering and fraud expertise in the financial services markets. She has experience in building and leading cross functional teams, compliance risk management and strategic direction. Significant subject matter expertise with investigations management, risk assessment and bank policy and procedures, suspicious activity reports, fraud strategies, predictive analytics, customer identification programs and authentication. Integration of transaction monitoring and customer due diligence programs into the compliance program framework as well as management of changing regulatory requirements, sanctions programs and Red Flags Identity Theft prevention programs. Show Notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-geister-14a0377/https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/how-criminals-are-using-ppe-as-money-laundering-tool-a-14698
Becky Holmes runs a Twitter account which ‘outs’ romance scammers through a series of (hopefully) amusing conversations. It has become very popular (have a look at @deathtospinach) and as a result she signed a publishing deal and is mid-way through writing her first book, 'Keanu Reeves Is NOT In Love With You', which you can already pre-order at www.unbound.com/books/keanuBecky is looking at romance fraud and everything about it - the victims, the people trying to stop it, academics, anti-scam organizations, banks and building societies, social media platforms and, of course, those behind it all.Show Notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/beckyholmeshatesspinach/https://twitter.com/deathtospinachhttps://www.ethicalsystems.org/j-s-nelson/
Lisa Fine of Great Women in Compliance and I do a crossover episode this week. Lisa and Mary Shirley got me started in the podcast world and I can't thank them enough.  This episode is all things compliance, fraud, mentoring and just a mutual admiration.Show Notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisarfine/https://www.corporatecomplianceinsights.com/great-women-in-compliance/https://twitter.com/lrfine
Mark A. Anderson is the Director of Training with Anderson Investigative Associates (AIA), a firm specializing in customized training for investigation and audit professionals. He is a retired Special Agent with the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General (DOJ/OIG) who served as a Program Manager and Instructor at the Inspector General Criminal Investigator Academy (IGCIA),(‎www.ignet.gov/igcia/) at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC)(www.fletc.gov) in Glynco, GA. At the IGCIA, he was responsible for managing the Advanced Interviewing for Inspector General Investigators and Interviewing for Fraud Auditors programs.Show Notes:https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-a-anderson-a46a1658/http://andersoninvestigative.com/https://twitter.com/AIA_training
Comments (9)

Shawn Clark

I like how she talks about the career transition in fraud investigations once you move up to becoming a manager. It's beneficial to hear someone else forgo that upward transition in favor of doing cases. Hearing that legitimized is helpful. Moving up to management often means you don't get to do cases anymore. If that's what you love, it's good to hear that it doesn't follow that because you don't become a manager, it doesn't mean you can't progress as an investigator. Love the podcasts- Thanks!

Mar 29th
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Shawn Clark

Another great podcast Kelly! I love a good check kite too. But investigating- not committing it. Always a good clarification to make!

Aug 7th
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Shawn Clark

As a fraud fighter in the banking/ consumer credit space, I almost never get to hear a fraudster's insights. Listened to every minute of this. Thank you!

May 2nd
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Shawn Clark

This is a great podcast. They address how some investigators will actually help others now as opposed to holding their cards to their chest which was the environment when I started. Some things that make my anti-fraud life easier, actually came from tips I received from fellow investigators. I'm learning it's ok to share sometimes. I'd like to help other investigators if I can. I'm naturally curious and like learning new things. Compliance and fraud investigations often overlap, whether it's BSA, KYC, etc. Thanks for another great podcast Kelly.

Jan 16th
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Shawn Clark

This is my favorite episode so far! My dad is a retired professor of dentistry. He went to a dental conference where the speaker was an FBI agent. The agent's presentation was on the vulnerability of a dental practice with regards to embezzlement. A dentist is busy with patients. They don't have time to look at their books; they're busy with patients.The FBI agent showed the pitfalls of leaving the bookeeping to someone else. Most of the dentists leaving after the presentation looked pale, shocked and worried! They just never thought....

Jan 4th
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Shawn Clark

This hits home. I'm female, Gen X, laid off due to COVID and trying to redirect my career back into fraud. It's scary w/no income, but something good will happen. (I hope!) I was also told "Be a good girl and..." In my caeeer I've been told, "I wouldn't give your opinion in meetings if it's not what the boss wants" "You're negative, passive aggressive, etc." I've been thrown under the bus in front of my boss. No one is perfect. I may have been some of those things, but it's good to hear I can still succeed anyway.

Dec 15th
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Shawn Clark

I'm glad she mentioned "imposter syndrome." It happens to a lot of us at some point in our careers. It's good to hear from successful women who have pushed through that fear and succeeded.

Dec 7th
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Shawn Clark

I agree with her preference for flat fee vs. the six minute increments. I found it almost impossible to accurately track my time while working on different client cases in a fast paced environment with frequent interruptions.

Nov 14th
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