Fruitloops: Serial Killers of Color

This week we talk about  Lorenzo Jerome Gilyard Jr, aka The Kansas City Strangler. He murdered at least 13 girls and women in Kansas City, Missouri between 1977 and 1993. We dig into our mailbag (5:00).  Then we dive into the story starting with the stats (10:02), the setting (12:19), the Gilyard’s early life (26:06) and the timeline (30:13).  Then, we get into the investigation & arrest (44:28) followed by "Where are they now?"(49:04). We get into our Take Aways and what we think made the him snap (53:01).   As usual we close out the show with some tips on how not to get murdered (58:05) and of course some shout outs (1:00:46).   Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive y’all, it's crazy out there! Ad And Still I Vote (25:42)https://andstillivote.org/ Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Krajicek, David. (n.d.). The Obscure Streetwalker Strangler. TruTv Crime Library (archived). Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://web.archive.org/web/20110930115452/http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/lorenzo_gilyard/1_index.html Gutierrez, Lisa. (03/01/2018). Piers Morgan confronts 'Kansas City Strangler' Lorenzo Gilyard on 'Serial Killer'. The Kansas City Star. Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article202811914.html Kindon, Frances. (03/01/2018). The chilling case of Lorenzo Gilyard - the softly-spoken Kansas City Strangler who raped and murdered 13 women. Mirror. Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/lorenzo-gilyard-strangler-piers-morgan-12101900 MurderMurderMurder. (n.d.). Lorenzo Gilyard. Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://www.murdermurdermurder.com/lorenzo-gilyard-summary Raga, Pippa. (n.d.). Almost Three Decades Since His Last Murder, Lorenzo Gilyard Maintains His Innocence. Distractify. Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://www.distractify.com/p/lorenzo-gilyard-is-innocent Birchall, Guy. (03/09/2020). Kansas City Strangler. The US Sun. Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://www.the-sun.com/news/512627/who-is-lorenzo-gilyard-serial-killer-suspected-of-murdering-13-women-and-girls/ Murderpedia. (n.d.). Lorenzo J Gilyard Jr. Retrieved 10/08/2020 from https://murderpedia.org/male.G/g/gilyard-lorenzo.htm Killer.Cloud. (n.d.). Lorenzo Gilyard. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/86/lorenzo-gilyard Associated Press. (04/19/2004).  Missouri Man Charged in serial killings. NBC News. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4779925/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/missouri-man-charged-serial-killings/#.X4KZlGhKjIU Wikipedia contributors. (12/18/2019). Manual Career & Technical Center. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/12/2020, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manual_Career_%26_Technical_Center&oldid=931420415 Podcasts Goodman, Jana. Host (11/5/2019) Prison City Murders- Case 16 - Inner Darkness. [Audio Podcast].  Retrieved on 10/9/2020 from https://prisoncitymurders.blubrry.net/2019/11/05/prison-city-murders-case-16-inner-darknes/ Video Serial Killer with Piers Morganhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80241003 History The Kansas City Public Library. (n.d.). African Americans in the Kansas City Area. Retrieved 10/09/2020 from https://kchistory.org/research/african-americans Visit KC. (n.d.). African American Community in Kansas City. Retrieved 10/09/2020 from https://www.visitkc.com/visitors/things-do/trip-ideas-tools/discover/diversity/african-american-community-kansas-city Berthiaume, Sara; Eagan, Elise; Graves, Jackson; Pulford, Adrianna; Santos, Ajani. (n.d.). Paris of the Plains:Jazz in Kansas City. University of Southern California. Retrieved 10/09/2020 from https://scalar.usc.edu/works/jazz-in-kansas-city/african-americans-in-kansas-city Wikipedia contributors. (09/02/2020. York (explorer). Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/09/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=York_(explorer)&oldid=976381471 Parks, Shoshi. (03/08/2018). York Explored the West With Lewis and Clark, But His Freedom Wouldn’t Come Until Decades Later. Smithsonian Magazine. Retrieved 10/10/2020 from https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/york-explored-west-lewis-and-clark-his-freedom-wouldnt-come-until-decades-later-180968427/ Kentake, Meserette. (06/29/2015). York, The Black Explorer. KentakePage. Retrieved 10/10/2020 from https://kentakepage.com/york-the-black-explorer/ Wikipedia contributors. (09/20/2020). Josephine Silone Yates. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/11/2020, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josephine_Silone_Yates&oldid=979419425 Lee, Gary. (06/02/2002). Black History in Missouri. Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-071219stlouis-blackhistory-story.html Wikipedia contributors. (09/05/2020). Little Dixie (Missouri). Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Little_Dixie_(Missouri)&oldid=976806677 Long-Middleton, Matthew. (n.d.). The History of The Native Peoples of the Kansas City Region. KCUR. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from https://www.kcur.org/show/central-standard/2014-02-14/the-history-of-the-native-peoples-of-the-kansas-city-region VisitKC. (n.d.). Native American Culture in Kansas City. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from https://www.visitkc.com/visitors/things-do/trip-ideas-tools/discover/diversity/native-american-culture-kansas-city ushistory.org. (n.d.). “Bloody Kansas”. U.S. History Online Textbook. Retrieved 10/11/2020 from https://www.ushistory.org/us/31.asp Salzman, Eric. (10/11/2018). For decades a dividing line, Troost Avenue in Kansas City, Mo., sees new hope. NBC News. Retrieved 10/10/2020 from URL https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/decades-dividing-line-troost-avenue-kansas-city-mo-sees-new-n918851 How Not to Get Murdered Scot-Pep. (n.d.). Protect Yourself Handbook. Retrieved 10/12/2020 from http://www.scot-pep.org.uk/sex-workers-toolkit/safety-work/protect-yourself-handbook Shout Outs The Good Lord Birdhttps://www.sho.com/the-good-lord-birdVerified Podcasthttps://witness.verified-podcast.com/ Music "Abyss" by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License "VVS" by Yung Kartz https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_KartzLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License “Blue Scorpion” and “Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3791-furious-freakLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Connect with us on: Twitter @FruitLoopsPod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

This week Beth and Wendy discuss Gakirah Barnes, a teenaged girl and gang member who lived in Chicago. She claimed to have killed 17 people by the time she was 17. We share listener letters (3:45) and get into some stats (8:35).  Then we dive into the setting (9:47), the Gakira’s early life (25:40) and the timeline (27:29).  Then, we get into the conclusion of Gakira’s story (41:49). We get into our Take Aways (48:30) and some self care tips to help us get through the rest of 2020 (52:30) and we close out the show with some shout outs (58:41).   Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Pleaseake our survey at: www.podcastlistenersurvey.com  Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Footnotes Music "Abyss" by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License “On the Go” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. Find her Facebook and Instagram under SEMNCHY or marlenemiller138@gmail.com "Born Again" by Jorge Hernandezhttps://youtu.be/DLHtFN_hr_sLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License “Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3791-furious-freakLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Connect with us on: Twitter @FruitLoopsPod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

This week Beth and Wendy tell the story of Dale Devon Scheanette, a black man who became known as the "Bathtub Killer" after two women at the same apartment complex in Arlington, TX in 1996 were found dead in half-filled bathtubs. We dive into the stats (7:42), the setting (9:31), the killers early life (15:38) and the timeline (18:20). Then, we get into the investigation & arrest (35:20) followed by "Where are they now?" (39:52). We get into our Take Aways (44:30) and some tips on how not to get murdered (45:58). Lastly some shout outs (51:50). Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites ClarkProsecutor.Org. (n.d.). Dale Devon Scheanette. Retrieved 10/2/2020 from http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/scheanette1146.htm Associated Press. (02/10/2009). Man Tied to “Bathtub Slayings” Executed. NBCDFW. Retrieved 10/03/2020 from https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/bathtub-killer-executed/1886242/ Carson, David. (02/11/2009). Execution Report: Dale Scheanette. Texas Execution Information Center. Retrieved 10/03/2020 from http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/430.asp Wikipedia contributors. (09/20/2020). Chima Simone. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/03/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chima_Simone&oldid=979336260 Tharp, Robert. (09/18/1996). Woman found dead, bound in a bathtub in Arlington. Star-Telegram. Retrieved 10/3/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/646424819/ Santa Maria Times. (12/26/1996). Second woman found slain in tub. Retrieved 10/3/2020 from  https://www.newspapers.com/image/446515702 The Associated Press. (12/27/1996). Murders worry residents of Texas apartment building. The Californian. Retrieved 10/3/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/515442857/ Gonzales, Christy. (4/9/1999). Recent assault linked to 1996 bathtub slayings. Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Retrieved 10/3/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/649060668/ WFAA Staff. (02/05/2015). 19 years later, 'bathtub killer' survivor speaks. WFAA. Retrieved 10/04/2020 from https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/19-years-later-bathtub-killer-survivor-speaks/149028645 Wray, James. (1/20/2018). Adriane Fields survived rape by serial murderer Dale Scheanette known as the ‘Bathtub Killer’. Monsters & Critics. Retrieved 10/4/2020 from URL https://www.monstersandcritics.com/tv/adriane-fields-survived-the-serial-rapist-and-murderer-known-as-the-bathtub-killer/ Find A Grave. (n.d.). Wendie Rochelle Prescott. Retrieved 10/04/2020 from https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/120293509/wendie-rochelle-prescott Leagle. (02/28/2018). State v Scheanette. Retrieved 10/05/2020 from https://www.leagle.com/decision/inlaco20180302348 Spangler, Anthony. (09/08/2000). Tentative DNA Link to Suspect Reported. Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Retrieved 10/04/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/643936354/ Fort Worth Star-Telegram. (03/03/2000). State Golden Gloves. Retrieved 10/04/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/649937113/ Hobbs, Tawnelle. (09/09/2000). Bathtub Killing Suspect Recalled in His Hometown. Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Retrieved 10/04/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/644480908/ Fort Worth Star-Telegram. (01/06/2003). Opening Statements Set to Start Today in Bathtub Slaying Trial. Retrieved 10/05/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/646381869/ Podcasts Flowers, Ashley (Host). (08/03/2020). Crime Junkie: INFAMOUS: Bathtub Killer. [Audio Podcast]  Retrieved 10/1/2020 from https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/infamous-bathtub-killer/ Cara and Stewart (Hosts). (01/28/2018). Bless this Mess: The Bathtub Killer. [Audio Podcast] Retrieved 10/03/2020 from https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bless-this-mess-a-southern-true-crime-podcast/e/53057281 Video All of Jet. (09/24/2020). True Crime Thursday: The Bathtub Killer. Retrieved 10/01/2020 from https://youtu.be/DtiQFwuGZCw Cold Case Files. S4 E24: Deja Vu/The Secret in The Wall.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B084FHXKXC/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s4 Surviving Evil. S3 E7: The Bathtub Killer. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WP1T7W Your Worst Nightmare. S4 E8: He’s Coming For Me.https://www.amazon.com/Your-Worst-Nightmare-Season-4/dp/B077YR9BD9 History Caplan, Jeff. (9/27/2017). Fort Worth 2016 murders highest since 2001, but this isn’t as bad as the 1990s. Star-Telegram. Retrieved 10/4/2020 from https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article175722701.html Wikipedia contributors. (09/25/2020). History of the Acadians. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/04/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Acadians&oldid=980259771 Census Viewer. (n.d.). Arlington, Texas Population. Retrieved 10/4/2020 from http://censusviewer.com/city/TX/Arlington. Wikipedia contributors. (09/13/2020). Arlington, Texas. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/05/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arlington,_Texas&oldid=978231544 The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica. (n.d.). Arlington. Encycloaedia Britannica. Retrieved 10/5/2020 from https://www.britannica.com/place/Arlington-Texas Wikipedia contributors. (09/21/2020). Ouachita Parish, Louisiana. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 10/05/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ouachita_Parish,_Louisiana&oldid=979546595   Promo Where the Bodies are Buried Podcasthttps://www.audioup.com/shows/wherethebodiesareburied How Not to Get Murdered Jacobson MD, John D.; Zieve MD, David; Conaway, Brenda; ADAM Editorial team. Sexual Assault - prevention". MedlinePlus. Retrieved 10/5/2020 from https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/007461.htm https://www.womenslaw.org/about-abuse/safety-tips/safety-tips-stalking-victims https://selfdefensegearco.com/personal-protection/best-self-defense-for-women/ https://www.safewise.com/blog/what-to-do-when-an-intruder-is-in-your-home/ If there is an intruder in your home:  Quickly verify their presence Stay calm Determine if you can escape Stay put if you can’t escape Call the police Keep quiet and follow instructions Take notes immediately afterward Humanize yourself: If the unthinkable happens and you are taken against your will, do what you can to humanize yourself in the eyes of your attacker. Studies show that it is difficult for many assailants to commit violence against victims who they view as people. Do not grovel, beg or become hysterical. This behavior makes it easier for the attacker to view you as a weak animal. Try not to cry. Talk about your family and try to form some sort of bond with your attacker. You may want to consider taking a self-defense class.  Shout Outs Signs of a Psychopath on IDhttps://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/signs-of-a-psychopath/ Surviving Evil on IDhttps://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/surviving-evil/ Music "Abyss" by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License “Precinct Lulluby” by Marlene Miller. Used with permission. 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This week Beth and Wendy revisit the case of serial killer Mark Goudeau aka The Baseline Killer. Goudeau is a Black man who killed 9 people beginning in the fall of 2005 to the Summer of 2006.  We did this on our very first episode, and we decided we’d give this story another look. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Wikipedia contributors. (05/15/2020). Mark Goudeau. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 09/30/ 2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Goudeau&oldid=956808854   Rubin, Paul. (11/10/2011). Take a Chilling Look Inside the Baseline Killer Case. Phoenix New Times. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/take-a-chilling-look-inside-the-baseline-killer-case-6451168 Kiefer, Michael. (9/2/2016) Summer of Fear: When the ‘Serial Shooter’ and ‘Baseline Killer’ Terrorized Phoenix. The Republic | azcentral.com. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-best-reads/2016/09/02/summer-fear-when-serial-shooter-and-baseline-killer-terrorized-phoenix/89557694/ The Republic / azcentral.com. (09/02/2016). Summer of Fear: A timeline of events”. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-best-reads/2016/09/02/phoenix-summer-of-fear-baseline-killer-serial-shooter-timeline/87151350/ Criminal Minds Wiki. (n.d.). Mark Goudeau. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from http://criminalminds.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Goudeau FindLaw. (06/17/2016). State of Arizona v. Mark Goudeau.  Retrieved 9/30/2020 from http://caselaw.findlaw.com/az-supreme-court/1738785.html Stoute, Steve; Leitner, Tammy. (02/08/2013). CBS5 Investigates the Baseline Killer: Victims’ families struggle. AZ Family.com. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from http://www.azfamily.com/story/21083866/cbs-5-investigates-the-baseline-killer-victims-families-struggle Murderpedia. (n.d.). Mark Goudeau. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from http://www.murderpedia.org/male.G/g/goudeau-mark.htm History Gardiner, Dustin. (1/20/2017). Lifeblood of Phoenix: 7 things to know about Canals. AZ Central. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/01/20/phoenix-canals-history-7-things-to-know/96695158/ Video ABC15 Arizona. (12/05/2011). Convicted Baseline Killer and judge face-off in court.  Retrieved 9/30/2020 from https://youtu.be/8b5G77byOZQ MarkGoudeau. (9/20/2013). Miranda Abduction Video Copy1). Retrieved 9/30/2020 from https://youtu.be/ZwpEmk986Pk Ayala, Edward. (3/24/2016). Baseline Killer. Retrieved 9/30/2020 from https://youtu.be/7flE3TtqSw0 Shout Outs Suspiria Hosted by Carol and Stephanie, Suspiria is a true crime podcast that focuses on crimes in Latin America. Born and raised in Brazil, the hosts shed light on cases that go unnoticed by many but that have been imprinted in the memories of many Latinos. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy84MWYzZmU0L3BvZGNhc3QvcnNz On Instagram and Twitter @Suspiriapodcast Jensen and Holes http://themurdersquad.com/ Instagram and Twitter  @jensenandholes Music "Abyss" by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License "Born Again" by Jorge Hernandez https://youtu.be/DLHtFN_hr_sLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License "Melrose" by Yung Kartz https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Yung_KartzLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License “Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3791-furious-freakLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Connect with us on: Twitter @FruitLoopsPod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

The Atlanta Child Murders Part Two. Between 1979 and 1981, children and teenagers were disappearing off the streets of Atlanta, later turning up dead, terrifying the entire city. At least 28 people in the Atlanta area, most of them young black boys and teenagers, were kidnapped and murdered. Wayne Williams was convicted of two of the murders. Was he guilty of those, or of any of the other murders? Was there another killer or killers who got away with murder? We wrap up the timeline and head on in to the investigation and arrest (8:40). We also get into some theories about the case (57:45) and our dueling take aways (106:06).  As usual we close out the show with some tips on how not to get murdered and some shout outs. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Wikipedia contributors. (08/16/2020). Atlanta murders of 1979–1981. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 08/19/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atlanta_murders_of_1979%E2%80%931981&oldid=973269829 Tallerico, Brian. (08/30/2019). The True Story Behind Mindhunter’s Atlanta Child Murders. Vulture. Retrieved 08/20/2020 from https://www.vulture.com/2019/08/mindhunter-atlanta-child-murders-true-story.html Lloyd, Susan E. (n.d.). ATKID: The Atlanta Child Murders Case. FBI Studies. Retrieved 08/20/2020 from https://fbistudies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/FBI-Grapevien-Atlanta-Child-Murders-Susan-Lloyd.pdf Atlanta's Missing & Murdered. (n.d.). Retrieved 08/20/2020 from http://atkid.weebly.com/ Burch, Audra D.S. (04/30/2019). Who Killed Atlanta’s Children? The New York Times. Retrieved 08/20/2020 from https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/30/us/atlanta-child-murders.html Cep, Casey. (05/01/2020). When James Baldwin Wrote About the Atlanta Child Murders. The New Yorker. 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Today we are talking about the Atlanta Child Murders. Between 1979 and 1981, children and teenagers were disappearing off the streets of Atlanta, later turning up dead, terrifying the entire city. At least 28 people in the Atlanta area, most of them young black boys and teenagers, were kidnapped and murdered. This case is complicated. So to do it justice, we felt we had to turn it into a two parter. We encourage you to check out our show notes for additional information about the case. And we welcome our listeners to be a part of the conversation on Facebook or Twitter @ fruitloopspod or email us at frutloopspod@gmail.com We dive into the Stats (13:24), the setting (16:12), the convicted killer's early life (32:20) and the timeline (39:36).  As usual we close out the show with some tips on how not to get murdered (103:25) and some shout outs (108:15). Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Wikipedia contributors. (08/16/2020). Atlanta murders of 1979–1981. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 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When James Baldwin Wrote About the Atlanta Child Murders. The New Yorker.  Retrieved 09/05/2020 from https://www.newyorker.com/books/second-read/when-james-baldwin-wrote-about-the-atlanta-child-murders Ishak, Natasha. (02/07/2020).  When Camille Bell’s Son Was Killed During The Atlanta Child Murders, She Rallied Her City To Demand Justice. All That's Interesting. Retrieved 9/5/2020 from https://allthatsinteresting.com/camille-bell Rawls Jr, Wendell. (03/05/1982). REPORTER'S NOTEBOOK: PROSECUTION IN ATLANTA TRIAL FLUNG A WIDE NET. The New York Times. Retrieved 09/06/2020 from https://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/05/us/reporter-s-notebook-prosecution-in-atlanta-trial-flung-a-wide-net.html Harris, Art. (01/12/1982). Agent Tells Atlanta Trial Story Couldn't Be Verified. The Washington Post. Retrieved 09/06/2020 from https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1982/01/12/agent-tells-atlanta-trial-story-couldnt-be-verified/eadab177-b18a-4943-a71c-5e0b4cb2b5ed/ Finn, Heather. (08/16/2019). The Atlanta Child Murders: The True Story Behind the 'Mindhunter' Season 2 Case. Good Housekeeping. Retrieved 09/06/2020 from https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a28625603/atlanta-child-murders-wayne-williams/ Malesevic, Dusica Sue. (05/01/2020) How the KKK and a pedophile ring may be linked to the Atlanta murders: New series reveals how some families still don't believe just one man kidnapped and killed 24 black children between 1979 and 81. Daily Mail. Retrieved 9/6/2020 from https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8278395/New-docuseries-points-KKK-pedophile-ring-suspects-Atlanta-child-murders.html Wikipedia contributors. (08/30/2020). Atlanta murders of 1979–1981. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 09/07/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atlanta_murders_of_1979%E2%80%931981&oldid=975887676 Epstein, Gail. (08/19/2019). From 1987: Atlanta child murders: Williams 'very like' FBI profile. AJC. 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This week Wendy and Beth get into the case of William Balfour, the brother-in-law of Jennifer Hudson (the singer and actress), allegedly because he was angry that his wife wanted a divorce and was seeing someone new. We get get into the stats and setting (12:48) then move into the early life of some of the people involved in the story (25:04).  We dive into the time line (36:04) and move on to the investigation and arrest (48:30).  We share our take aways, how not to get murdered (102:05) and some shout outs (109:22).  Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod   Articles/Websites Murderpedia. (n.d.). William Balfour. Retrieved 08/21/20 from https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/balfour-william.htm Wikipedia contributors. (08/15/2020). Murder of Jason Hudson. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 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William Balfour’s Mother Questions Police Murder Investigation. Retrieved 08/24/2020 from https://www.accessonline.com/articles/william-balfours-mother-questions-police-murder-investigation-66482 Nelson, Daryl. (12/12/2019). ’11 Girls, 16 Boys’: Jennifer Hudson Reveals She Has a Total of 26 Siblings. Atlanta Black Star. Retrieved 08/25/2020 from https://atlantablackstar.com/2019/12/12/11-girls-16-boys-jennifer-hudson-reveals-she-has-a-total-of-26-siblings/ Meisner, Jason. (07/24/2012). Judge gives Balfour 3 life sentences, calls his soul ‘barren’. LA Times. Retrieved 08/26/2020 from https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/chi-hudson-expected-in-court-today-for-brotherinlaws-sentencing-20120724-story.html Ganger, Candace. (12/02/2019). The Heartbreaking Reason Jennifer Hudson Won't Ever Slow Down. Showbiz Cheatsheet. Retrieved 08/29/2020 from https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-heartbreaking-reason-jennifer-hudson-wont-ever-slow-down.html/ Meisner, Jason. (05/07/2020). Witness describes phone call with suspect in Hudson family slaying trial. Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 08/29/2020 from https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2012-05-07-chi-jennifer-hudson-william-balfour-trial-story.html Tribune Staff. (04/23/2019). Updated: Timeline in the murders of Jennifer Hudson family members. LA Times. Retrieved 08/29/2020 from https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/chi-jennifer-hudson-murders-timeline-story.html Julian D King Gift Foundation. (n.d.). Retrieved 08/29/2020 from http://www.juliandkinggiftfoundation.com/about-us/ Video Murder in The Family. S1E1: Jennifer Hudson.https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/530914/s01_e01_jennifer_hudson CNN. (May 11, 2012). William Balfour guilty on all counts in Hudson family‎ murders. YouTube Channel Absolutely. Retrieved 8/22/2020 from  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQGESZvUmGE History History.com editors. (03/04/2010; updated 04/28/2020).  Chicago. History. 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  This week Beth and Wendy get into the Donald Eugene Younge Jr. story (ever heard of him?), a man who has never actually been convicted of murder, but is suspected in at least 5 murders.    We dive heavy into the setting, the timeline, our takeways, some shoutouts and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered.     Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there!   Where to find us:   Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/   We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod   Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show!   Want to Support the show?   You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars!   You can make a donation on the Cash App   https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod   Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page   https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod   Articles/Websites   Murderpedia. (n.d.). Donald Eugene Younge Jr. Retrieved 07/29/2020 from https://murderpedia.org/male.Y/y/younge-donald.htm   Reavy, Pat. (01/19/2017). Rapist to serve 23 more years before next parole hearing. Deseret News. Retrieved 07/30/2020 from https://www.deseret.com/2017/1/19/20604332/rapist-to-serve-23-more-years-before-next-parole-hearing   Fruhwirth, Jess. (03/03/2010). Donald Eugene Younge: Prosecutorial Misconduct? Salt Lake City Weekly. Retrieved 07/30/2020 from https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/donald-eugene-younge-prosecutorial-misconduct/Content?oid=2144052   Winslow, Ben. (02/01/2017). Parole denied for man convicted in U of U student’s rape. Fox 13 Salt lake City. Retrieved 07/31/2020 from https://fox13now.com/2017/02/01/parole-denied-for-man-convicted-in-u-students-rape/   Miller, Jessica. (11/07/2002). Charges dropped against man accused in 1999 fatal stabbing. The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 07/31/2020 from https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=55220878&itype=CMSID   Thomson, Linda. (11/25/2009). Witness describes '99 killing. Deseret News. Retrieved 07/31/2020 from https://www.deseret.com/2009/11/25/20354855/witness-describes-99-killing#donald-eugene-younge-is-charged-with-the-murder-of-u-student-amy-quinton   Winslow, Ben. (01/03/2017). Victim confronts convicted rapist, suspected serial killer at parole hearing. Fox 13 Salt Lake City. Retrieved 07/31/2020 from https://fox13now.com/2017/01/03/victim-confronts-convicted-rapist-suspected-serial-killer-at-parole-hearing/   The Associated Press. (04/20/2004). Prosecutors not seeking death penalty for man who killed 3. Daily Herald. Retrieved 08/02/2020 from https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/prosecutors-not-seeking-death-penalty-for-man-who-killed/article_d052a5b4-cec6-59fb-97a0-c1171e4fad03.html   St Louis Dispatch. (10/28/2001). Search for The Killers of 13 Women. Retrieved 08/02/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37684120/murders-of-10-killings-may-be-the-work/   Associated Press. (01/02/2002). E. 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This week Beth and Wendy discuss Huang Yong, a Chinese serial killer, convicted of murdering 17 teenage boys (although he is suspected of 25 murders) between September 2001-03.   We begin with listener letters (5:19). We dive into the setting (11:06) the killers early life, and the timeline.      As usual we close out the show with some shout outs, crime news, and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered.     Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? 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Retrieved 07/21/2020 from http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/east/12/09/china.killer.reut/   Murderpedia. (n.d.). Huang Yong. Retrieved 07/21/2020 from https://murderpedia.org/male.Y/y/yong-huang.htm   Practice Source. (n.d.). China Has Its Serial Killers Too. Retrieved 07/21/2020 from https://practicesource.com/china-has-its-serial-killers-too/   R.A. Brewster. (12/15/2018). Human Monsters: Huang Yong, China’s Street Assassin. Retrieved 07/22/2020 from https://rabrewster.com/2018/12/15/human-monsters-huang-yong-chinas-street-assassin/   China Daily. (12/09/2003). Killer of 17 to be executed. Retrieved 07/23/2020 from http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/09/content_288794.htm   History   Deason, Rachel. (05/16/2018). An Introduction to China’s Han People. Culture Trip. Retrieved 07/24/2020 from https://theculturetrip.com/asia/china/articles/an-introduction-to-chinas-han-people/   People’s Daily Online. (09/30/2006). China's most populous province legislates to curb gender imbalance. Retrieved 07/24/2020 from http://en.people.cn/200609/30/eng20060930_307662.html   Denyer, Simon; Gowen, Annie. (04/18/2018). Too Many Men. The Washington Post. Retrieved 07/24/2020 from https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/   Qin, Amy. (07/16/2019). A Prosperous China Says ‘Men Preferred,’ and Women Lose. New York Times. Retrieved 07/25/2020 from https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/world/asia/china-women-discrimination.html   Encyclopedia Britannica. (n.d.). One Child Policy. Retrieved 07/26/2020 from https://www.britannica.com/topic/one-child-policy    Bloomberg News. (01/22/2020). China’s Two Child Policy. Retrieved 07/26/2020 from https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/china-s-two-child-policy   Piketty, Thomas; Yang, Li; Zucman, Gabriel. (04/01/2019). Income inequality is growing fast in China and making it look more like the US. LSE Business Review. 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This week Beth and Wendy discuss Dorothy Williams, a black woman serial killer who preyed on the elderly in Chicago Illinois in the 1980’s. Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod   Articles/Websites   Murderpedia. (n.d.). Dorothy Williams. Retrieved 07/14/2020 from https://murderpedia.org/female.W/w/williams-dorothy.htm   O’Connor, Matt. (04/19/1991). 2nd Woman Sentenced to Death Row. Retrieved 07/14/2020 from https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-04-19-9102040841-story.html   Woman is convicted in Strangling at CHA. Retrieved 07/16/2020 from https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-03-13-9101230119-story.html   CaseText. (09/22/1994). People v Williams. Retrieved 07/14/2020 from https://casetext.com/case/people-v-williams-4461   Thornton, Jerry. (03/08/1991). Woman Killed for Stereo, Court Told. Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 07/16/2020 from  https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-03-08-9101210661-story.html   Illinois Dept of Corrections. (07/18/2020). Dorothy Williams. Retrieved 07/18/2020 from https://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms_print.asp?idoc=B21483   Yumpu. (October 2002). Cook County State's Attorney, Prisoner Review Board - Dorothy Williams. Retrieved 07/18/2020 from https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/39785602/dorothy-williams-cook-county-states-attorney   Wikipedia contributors. (06/29/2020). Red Summer. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 07/20/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_Summer&oldid=965113761   Video   S6 E19 Deadly Women: Death Knock https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2343068/   History   Encyclopedia of Chicago. (n.d.). African Americans. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/27.html   Riverwalk Jazz. (n.d.). Chicago's Jazz Age Melting Pot: Hot Jazz, Boogie Woogie and Blues. Stanford Libraries. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from https://riverwalkjazz.stanford.edu/program/chicagos-jazz-age-melting-pot-hot-jazz-boogie-woogie-and-blues   Bates, Karen Grigsby; Fuller, Jason. (07/27/2019). Red Summer in Chicago. NPR: Code Switch. Retrieved 07/20/2020 from https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2019/07/27/744130358/red-summer-in-chicago-100-years-after-the-race-riots   American Mafia History. (n.d.). Chicago Outfit. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from https://americanmafiahistory.com/chicago-outfit/   Chicago Tribune Editorial Board. (08/07/2018). Why is there so much shooting and killing in Chicago? The Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-shooting-chicago-violence-police-20180807-story.html   Wikipedia contributors. (06/27/2020). Crime in Chicago. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crime_in_Chicago&oldid=964841941   WTTW. (n.d.). Early Chicago: The Black Press. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from https://interactive.wttw.com/dusable-to-obama/the-black-press   University of Chicago Crime Lab. Retrieved 07/19/2020 from https://urbanlabs.uchicago.edu/labs/crime   Shout Outs   Forgotten: Women of Juarez https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-forgotten-the-women-of-ju-63028149/   Helter Skelter An American Myth on Epix https://www.epix.com/series/helter-skelter-an-american-myth   Ad   Boosed Podcast https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/boosed-podcast/boosed   Music   "Abyss" by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy● Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License   "Charangos" By LATASHÁ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB32w_fAJftImQkRUZ8Ju-Q Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License "Born Again" by Jorge Hernandez https://youtu.be/DLHtFN_hr_s Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License   “Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3791-furious-freak License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/   https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/   Connect with us on: Twitter @FruitLoopsPod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

This week Beth and Wendy discuss The Briley Brothers case. Three African American brothers who went on a seven-month killing spree in their hometown of Richmond, Virginia in 1979. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! 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Retrieved 07/09/2020 from https://www.thoughtco.com/briley-brothers-killing-spree-4060045 Williams, Reed; McKelway, Bill. (05/13/2009). Officials seek release for Briley brothers accomplice. Richmond Times-Dispatch. Retrieved 07/12/2020 from https://www.richmond.com/news/officials-seek-release-for-briley-brothers-accomplice/article_8cb65564-c2cd-5ecc-9e97-e90a4cdd0045.html Hawkins, Erik. (12/15/2019). Trio Of Brothers Raped And Murdered Their Way Through Richmond Before An Unbelievable Prison Break. Oxygen. Retrieved 07/12/2020 from https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/linwood-james-anthony-briley-brothers-murder-spree-duncan-meekins Books Rosewood, Jack; Walker, Dwayne.  The Briley Brothers:  The True Story of The Slaying Brothers. True Crime by Evil Killers Vol. 8.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FEEQP5K Podcasts Hosts Unknown.  Keep Creepin’ The True Crime Guys (7/7/2019). Episode #74 The Briley Brothers [Audio podcast]. 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This week Beth and Wendy discuss John Allen Rubio and Angela Camacho, who murdered their own children, and then decapitated them. This is a tough one, so please be forewarned.  We dive into the story, stats and setting (8:38), and the killers early lives (14:33).  **We get into the details of the murders (36:30) CONTENT WARNING so feel free to skip ahead**.  Then, we get into the investigation and arrest (42:10) As usual we close out the show with some shout outs and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered(58:36).   Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Murderpedia. (n.d.). Angela Camacho. Retrieved 07/02/20 from https://murderpedia.org/female.C/c/camacho-angela.htm Murderpedia. (n.d.). John Allen Rubio. Retrieved 07/02/20 from https://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/rubio-john-allen.htm Cuadros, Alfredo. (12/19/2019). Former Rubio Murder House Transformed, what volunteers are doing to change the image of the Tres Angeles Park. Retrieved 07/03/2020 from  https://www.valleycentral.com/news/local-news/former-rubio-murder-house-transformed-what-volunteers-are-doing-to-change-the-image-of-the-tres-angeles-park/ The Dallas Morning News. (04/08/2016). Texas crime: ‘The Long Shadow of Small Ghosts: Murder and Memory in an American City,’ by Laura Tillman. Retrieved 07/03/2020 from https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/books/2016/04/08/texas-crime-the-long-shadow-of-small-ghosts-murder-and-memory-in-an-american-city-by-laura-tillman/Casares, Cindy. (04/22/2016). How a Horrific Parent-Children Murder Impacted a Latino Town in Texas. Latina. Retrieved 07/03/2020 from http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/our-issues/book-horrific-murder-texas Cuadros, Alfredo. (02/05/2016). House of Shame Pt 1 – Rubio Murder House. Valley Central. Retrieved 07/04/2020 from https://www.valleycentral.com/news/local-news/house-of-shame-pt-1-rubio-murder-house/ Books Tillman, Laura.  The Long Shadow of Small Ghosts. Murder and Memory in an American Cityhttps://www.amazon.com/Long-Shadow-Small-Ghosts-American/dp/1501104276 Podcasts Zupansky, Dan (Host). True Murder: The Most Shocking Killers [Audio Podcast]. “The Long Shadow of Small Ghosts- Laura Tillman”. (11/16/2016). https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/blogtalkradio/true-murder History City of Brownsville. (n.d.). About Brownsville. Retrieved 07/03/2020 from https://www.cob.us/822/About-Brownsville National Park Service. (n.d.). Fort Brown, Brownsville, Texas. Retrieved 07/05/2020 from https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/american_latino_heritage/Fort_Brown.html Encyclopaedia Britannica. (n.d.). Brownsville Affair. Retrieved 07/05/2020 from https://www.britannica.com/event/Brownsville-Affair How Not to Get Murdered CDC.Gov. (n.d.). Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs). Retrieved 07/06/2020 from https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/acestudy/index.htmlhttps://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/preventingACES.pdf Shout Outs Good Night Irene by Sterlin Harjohttps://youtu.be/z4n6D2zYZPM Unsolved Mysteries on Netflixhttps://www.netflix.com/title/81026055 Ad Crackers in Souphttps://crackersinsoup.com/f/podcasters-virtual-assistants Music "Abyss" by Alasen: ●https://soundcloud.com/alasen●https://twitter.com/icemantrap ●https://instagram.com/icemanbass/●https://soundcloud.com/therealfrozenguy●Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License "Start as You Mean to Go On" by Birch https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Daniel_BirchLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License "Second Chance" by Saibysed https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoyDwrTWfhlv_yBm84WXXBgLicensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License “Blippy Trance” by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5759-blippy-tranceLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ “Furious Freak” by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3791-furious-freakLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Connect with us on: Twitter @FruitLoopsPod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/fruitloopspod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Fruitloopspod and https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod

This week, in episode 85, Beth and Wendy discuss Michael Devern Terry, a black man who killed six men in Atlanta between December 6, 1985 and October 20, 1986. We dive into the stats, the setting and some LBGTQ history in Atlanta, GA, and the killer's early life (9:31).  We get into the timeline (19:15), followed by the investigation & arrest.  Then "Where are they now?" (37:55), followed by our takeaways, shout outs and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Murderpedia. (n.d.). Michael D Terry. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://murderpedia.org/male.T/t/terry-michael-d.htm Justia. (04/06/1989). Terry v State. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/1989/46512-1.html The Atlanta Constitution. (01/21/1987). Accused killer of 6 'hustlers' scheduled for trial Feb 16. Newspapers.com. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37458781/accused-killer-of-6-hustlers/ The Atlanta Constitution. (12/06/1986). Atlantan indicted in slayings of six male street hustlers. Newspapers.com. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37458716/atlantan-indicted-in-slayings-of-six/ Brady, John; McCall, Nathan. (11/29/1986). Atlantan held in slayings of 6 male ‘street hustlers’. The Atlanta Constitution. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/399757807/ & https://www.newspapers.com/image/399761641/ Hendricks, Gary. (11/29/1986). Slaying Case involved hours of teamwork. The Atlanta Constitution. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/399761641/ Schmidt, William E. (12/03/1986). HOMOSEXUALS IN ATLANTA FEAR RISE IN RANDOM ATTACKS AND KILLINGS. The New York Times. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://www.nytimes.com/1986/12/03/us/homosexuals-in-atlanta-fear-rise-in-random-attacks-and-killings.html Associated Press. (11/30/1986). Case Of Man Accused Of 6 Slayings Going To Grand Jury. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://apnews.com/71c1ecffdee3a1c49623b8296bdda108 Associated Press. (12/01/1986). Gay Rights Activists Angry Over ‘Street Hustlers’ Killings. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://apnews.com/2fef40210f324e5952e5ad077242190e Schmidt, William E. (12/05/1986). 2nd Pattern of Black Killings Alarms Atlanta Homosexuals. The Charlotte Observer. Retrieved 06/27/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/624565740/ Palmer, Prentice. (02/20/1987). Terry gets 2 life terms in slayings of ‘hustlers’. The Atlanta Constitution. Retrieved 06/28/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/399655019/ Abbeville Meridional. (11/30/1986). Man Arrested in Slayings. Retrieved 06/28/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/447765807/ Palmer, Prentice. (02/19/1987). Close of ‘hustler’ trial focuses on defendant’s confession. The Atlanta Constitution. Retrieved 06/29/2020 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/399609933/ History Atlanta History Center. (n.d.). Explore: Atlanta in 50 Objects. Retrieved 06/25/2020 from https://www.atlantahistorycenter.com/explore/online-exhibitions/atlanta-in-50-objects Kassis, Mary Mathewes; Boldt; David. (02/2005). A Historical Perspective of Georgia’s Economy. Georgia State University. Retrieved 06/27/2020 from https://cslf.gsu.edu/files/2014/06/historical_perspective_of_georgias_economy.pdfDeLong, William. (04/03/2018). Wayne Williams And The Mystery Of The Atlanta Child Murders. All That’s Interesting. Retrieved 06/27/2020 from https://allthatsinteresting.com/wayne-williams-atlanta-child-murders Wikipedia contributors. (03/12/2020). LGBT history in Georgia (U.S. state). Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/282020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LGBT_history_in_Georgia_(U.S._state)&oldid=945146730 Wikipedia contributors. (06/28/2020). History of Atlanta. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/29/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Atlanta&oldid=964871731 How Not to Get Murdered The Trevor Project - Trevor Lifeline:Need help? We are here for you 24/7: 1-866-488-7386Or text START to 678-678 to start a text chatOr chat online:https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help-now/ Shout Outs SegreGaytion podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/segregaytion/id1517860289 Nancy Podcasthttps://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/nancy Shakedown Film https://shakedown.film/a film by Leilah Weinraub Kennedy, Mark. (06/25/2020). New HBO series looks at lives disrupted by a serial killer. Associated Press. 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This week Beth and Wendy dive into Vincent Darell Groves, Colorado’s most prolific serial killer. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! 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Retrieved 06/20/2020 from https://gazette.com/news/colo-killer-wouldnt-be-let-go-under-current-laws/article_7d720ea7-c457-5302-b16d-de6330407c17.html Crimesider Staff. (03/07/2012). Colo. Authorities: Deceased serial killer Vincent Groves may have had up to 20 victims from 1970s - '80s. CBS News. Retrieved 06/20/2020 from https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colo-authorities-deceased-serial-killer-vincent-groves-may-have-had-up-to-20-victims-from-1970s-80s/ Mitchell, Kirk. (03/06/2012). Deceased serial killer linked to murders of 4 Colorado women. The Denver Post. Retrieved 06/20/2020 from https://www.denverpost.com/2012/03/06/deceased-serial-killer-linked-to-murders-of-4-colorado-women-2/ Banda, P. Solomon. (03/08/2012). Convicted Colo. killer to blame for as many as 20 slayings? NBC News. Retrieved 06/20/2020 from http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46668311/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/convicted-colo-killer-blame-many-slayings/#.Xu6HiGhKiMp Justia. (10/08/1992). People v Groves. Retrieved 06/20/2020 from https://law.justia.com/cases/colorado/court-of-appeals/1992/90ca1049-0.html The Denver Post. (09/01/2012). Special Report: up to 6 serial killers murdered dozens over 20-year span in Denver metro area. Retrieved 06/22/2020 from https://cohere.rssing.com/chan-1094054/all_p4.html Podcasts Sick Grayson (host). (09/26/2018). No Better Death; Episode 4: Colorful Killarado [Audio Podcast]. Retrieved 6/17/2020 from https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-no-better-death-29878890/episode/episode-4-colorful-killarado-30002717/ Porritt, Laura (host).  (01/31/2019). Colored Red; The Colfax Serial Killer: Vincent Darrell Groves [ Audio Podcast]. Retrieved 6/18/2020 from https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-colored-red-29047054/episode/the-colfax-serial-killer-vincent-darrell-30497223/ History Reed, Byron. (02/21/2019). Black History Month: African Americans migrated west looking for new opportunities in the 1860s. 9News. Retrieved 06/21/2020 from https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/black-history/how-the-westward-migration-of-african-americans-impacted-colorado/73-9b591e66-167f-41e7-afc2-94d10d166e99 Khan Academy. (n.d.). The Homestead Act and the exodusters. Retrieved 06/21/2020 from https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/the-gilded-age/american-west/a/the-homestead-act-and-the-exodusters Khan Academy. (n.d.). The reservation system. Retrieved 06/21/2020 from https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/the-gilded-age/american-west/a/the-reservation-system Gardner, Natasha. (May 2011). Who Owns Denver? 5280. Retrieved 06/21/2020 from https://www.5280.com/2011/04/who-owns-denver/ Snow, Shawn. (11/10/2011). Farewell, Freda. Denver Urbanism. Retrieved 06/21/2020 from https://denverurbanism.com/2011/11/farewell-freda.html Encyclopedia Britannica. (n.d.). Denver. Retrieved 06/21/2020 from https://www.britannica.com/place/Denver How Not to Get Murdered Coats, Ta-Nehisi. (n.d.). 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This week Beth and Wendy discuss Christina Shea Walters, a Native American woman and leader of a gang, who attempted to murder one woman, and then ordered the executions of two other women. The victims were chosen at random. We dive into the story (15:34), the setting and the timeline. As usual we close out the show with some shout outs and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered.   Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? 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North Carolina v. Tilmon Golphin, Christina Walters, and Quintel Augustine. Retrieved 06/12/2020 from https://www.aclu.org/cases/death-penalty/north-carolina-v-tilmon-golphin-christina-walters-and-quintel-augustine Wikipedia contributors. (06/12/2020). Racial Justice Act. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/12/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racial_Justice_Act&oldid=962168377 ACLU.org. (06/05/2020). North Carolina Supreme Court Finds The Repeal of Racial Injustice Act Unconstitutional. Retrieved 06/12/2020 from https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/north-carolina-supreme-court-finds-repeal-racial-justice-act-unconstitutional Segura, Liliana. (10/17/2018). “Relic of Another Era”: Most People on North Carolina’s Death Row Would Not Be Sentenced to Die Today. The Intercept. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://theintercept.com/2018/10/17/north-carolina-death-penalty/ Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina. (n.d.). History & Culture. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://www.lumbeetribe.com/history--culture Carlisle, Madeleine. (06/05/2020). N.C. Supreme Court Rules Over 100 Death Row Inmates Have Chance to Prove Racism Affected Their Sentences. Time. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://time.com/5849203/north-carolina-death-row-surpeme-court-racism/ WRAL. (03/07/2000). Gang Member Tells Jurors About Initiation In Double Murder Trial. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/139973/ WRAL. (08/19/1998). Gang Initiation Tied to Fayetteville Murders, Assault. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/131749/ Associated Press. (07/02/2000). Third Defendant Convicted of Murder in Gang Initiation. Herald-Journal. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=aTofAAAAIBAJ&sjid=488EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3712%2C329074WRAL. (03/12/2000). Cumberland County Gang Member Continues Testimony Despite Motion for Mistrial. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/140055/ MyLifeOfCrime. (10/19/12). Monsters Among Us: Christina Shea Walters on death row for killing 2 women, to earn her “teardrop tat” for the Crips. Retrieved 06/13/2020 from https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2012/10/19/monsters-among-us-christina-shea-walters-o/n-death-row-for-killing-2-women/ Wikipedia contributors. (2020, May 20). Lumbee. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 19:46, June 14, 2020, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lumbee&oldid=957684048 Books Martin, Jennifer. (03/22/2017). Cold Blooded Killer Christina Walters. Createspace Independent Publishing. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0719PZG51/ Podcasts Bowlin, Ben. (Host), Frederick, Matt (Host), Brown, Noel (Host). Stuff They Don't want you to know. [Audio Podcast]. May 6, 2020. Forced Assimilation of Native People.  Retrieved 6/12/2020 from https://www.iheart.com/podcast/182-stuff-they-dont-want-you-t-26941221/episode/forced-assimilation-of-native-people-62146866/ Video Deadly Women: S5E1 Twisted Thrills.https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/deadly-women/full-episodes/twisted-thrills History Wikipedia contributors. (06/10/2020). Fayetteville, North Carolina. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/11/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fayetteville,_North_Carolina&oldid=961754402 Richardson, Gregory. (Fall 2005). American Indian Tribes in North Carolina. NCpedia. Retrieved 06/11/2020 from https://www.ncpedia.org/tribes North Carolina Museum of History. (n.d.). North Carolina American Indian History Timeline. Retrieved 06/11/2020 from https://www.ncmuseumofhistory.org/american-indian/handouts/timeline Lowe, Daniel; Oxendine, Kasey; Price, Jenna. (n.d.). Lumbee History: Civil Rights. 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This week Beth and Wendy discuss Malcolm Johnn Naden, an indigenous Australian man who killed two women, members of his own family, Lateesha Nolan and Kristy Scholes in Dubbo, New South Wales, Australia. After his crimes, he hid out in the bush for seven years before he was finally caught. We dive into the setting (11:21), the killers early life (32:32) and the timeline.   As usual we close out the show with some shout outs, crime news, and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered.  Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites Wikipedia contributors. (05/16/2020). Malcolm Naden. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/04/2020 from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malcolm_Naden&oldid=956993267 aclark. (01/07/2015). A decade on, dad's heart still breaks for murdered daughter. Whitsunday Times. Retrieved 05/29/2020 from https://www.whitsundaytimes.com.au/news/its-no-easier-10-years-on/2503041/ Pymble Ladies’ College; Conde Library. (06/14/2013). R v Naden [2013] NSWSC 759. https://pymblelc.libguides.com/ld.php?content_id=47146385 Bibby, Paul. (05/03/13). Naden reveals 'no real reason' behind murders. The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 06/04/2020 from https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/naden-reveals-no-real-reason-behind-murders-20130502-2ivt7.html Bibby, Paul. (06/14/13). 'Thank you, your honour': Naden gets his wish for life in jail. The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 06/04/2020 from https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/thank-you-your-honour-naden-gets-his-wish-for-life-in-jail-20130614-2o8cu.html Gibbs, Stephen. (07/23/17). EXCLUSIVE: Stealing bananas from elephants, raiding rubbish bins and even gutting a GIANT TORTOISE to eat: How Australia's most wanted murderer survived for months in a ZOO while evading police. The Daily Mail. Retrieved 06/04/2020 from https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4709218/Malcolm-Naden-ate-tortoise-hiding-Dubbo-zoo.html  Rule, Andrew. (01/20/12). Malcolm Naden: Weird loner or deviant killer? Adelaide Now. Retrieved 06/04/2020 from https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/weird-loner-or-fugitive-killer/news-story/52dbffdd1b9c1be97e4b7d320e0bd0f5?sv=1f4e7b8aaec2c1647477b9484603741e Byrnes, Holly. (09/08/2013). Secret Photos of Wildman Killer. The Sunday Telegraph. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-sunday-telegraph-sydney/20130908/282973922709283 Davies, Lisa. (07/12/2013). VIDEO, PICS: Policeman says Naden case was personal. The Newcastle Herald. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/1635127/video-pics-policeman-says-naden-case-was-personal/ The Daily Liberal. (05/03/13). FANTASISED ABOUT MURDER: Psychiatrist tells hearing Naden would 'kill again'. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/1474351/fantasised-about-murder-psychiatrist-tells-hearing-naden-would-kill-again/ Vollmer, Tim. (12/30/2011). Living in fear of Malcolm Naden. The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/living-in-fear-of-malcolm-naden/news-story/6b2506bd9d6e7eefc41c3f635d8d5636?sv=49a7ff1e77a82ae7485db6eb7492e0a7 Walker, Ben. (12/30/2016). DNA tests confirm bones found belong to Lateesha Nolan. The Daily Liberal. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/4380749/it-was-lateesha/ Grewal, Jessica. (04/24/2013). Families of Naden's alleged murder victims speak in court. NewsMail. Retrieved 06/06/2020 from https://www.news-mail.com.au/news/families-nadens-alleged-murder-victims-speak-court/1842647/ Gleeson, Ashleigh. (07/11/2017). Lateesha Nolan’s family finally lay her to rest 12 years after she was murdered by fugitive Malcolm Naden. The Townsville Bulletin. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/national/lateesha-nolans-family-finally-lay-her-to-rest-12-years-after-she-was-murdered-by-fugitive-malcolm-naden/news-story/86a67fb6f2afb9468401d5862f6b519f Frost, Carleen. (03/02/2017). Malcolm Naden: Lateesha Nolan’s children speak for first time about mother’s murder. The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/national/malcolm-naden-lateesha-nolans-children-speak-for-first-time-about-mothers-murder/news-story/91dbaeca7040f26330204db482619840 Burke, Liz. (02/27/2017). Victim’s furious father calls for Nine to cancel A Current Affair’s Malcolm Naden story. The Townsville Bulletin. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/victims-furious-father-calls-for-nine-to-cancel-a-current-affairs-malcolm-naden-story/news-story/2fa9848f81689fc7d0f6843524fbc96f Margan, Max. (02/27/2017). 'I robbed her of life but her beauty remained intact': Chilling letters written by Malcolm Naden reveal how he brutally murdered his cousin before hiding in the bush for seven years. The Daily Mail. Retrieved 06/05/2020 from https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4264000/Malcolm-Naden-reveals-brutally-murdered-cousin.html News Corp Australia Network. (08/03/2019). How hero police dog Chuck caught Australia’s most wanted Malcolm Naden. Townsville Bulletin. Retrieved 05/29/2020 from https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/bookextracts/how-hero-police-dog-chuck-caught-australias-most-wanted-malcolm-naden/news-story/be13d3cba98a9cea520acf7953968992 Fairfax Media. (04/14/2014). Family taking revenge for Lateesha: Malcolm Naden beaten in prison by cousin. 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This week Beth and Wendy talk about Khalil Wheeler-Weaver, a man convicted of killing three women and attempting to kill a fourth, in an 88 day span during the summer and fall of 2016. As usual we close out the show with some shout outs, and of course, some tips on how not to get murdered. Please excuse the creepy door squeaking in the background as Wendy was flying solo with her kids this week and they could not resist opening the door and checking up on her. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! You can make a donation on the Cash App https://cash.me/$fruitloopspod Or become a monthly Patron through our Podbean Patron page https://patron.podbean.com/fruitloopspod Articles/Websites The Record and NorthJersey.com. (02/08/2020). He murdered three women and was hunting a fourth. These women outsmarted a serial killer. NorthJersey.com. Retrieved 05/19/2020 from https://www.northjersey.com/in-depth/news/crime/2020/02/03/how-group-women-stopped-nj-serial-killer/2661900001/ Nobile, Tom; Martin, Julia; Maag, Christopher. (12/19/2019). Serial killer Khalil Wheeler-Weaver guilty of murdering three women in 2016. northjersey.com. Retrieved 05/19/2020 from https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2019/12/19/khalil-wheeler-weaver-found-guilty-montclair-serial-killer-case/2700680001/ Jenkins, Raven. (12/03/2019). Khalil Wheeler-Weaver and the Absence of Sympathy for Black Women. Medium. Retrieved 05/19/2020 from https://medium.com/@ravenkeyana/khalil-wheeler-weaver-and-the-absence-of-sympathy-for-black-women-8319f0a98919 DiFilippo, Dana. (11/30/2017). Long wait for justice for Philly woman strangled by North Jersey serial killer. whyy.org. Retrieved 05/19/2020 from https://whyy.org/segments/long-wait-justice-philly-woman-strangled-north-jersey-serial-killer/ DeGroot, Natalie. (12/22/2019). How Serial Killer Khalil Wheeler-Weaver Was Brought Down By The Same App He Used To Lure A Victim. All That’s Interesting. Retrieved 05/19/2020 from https://allthatsinteresting.com/khalil-wheeler-weaver Martin, Julia; Maag, Christopher. (11/07/19). 'You're not a serial killer, right?' Victim asked Khalil Wheeler-Weaver in text before she died. northjersey.com. Retrieved 05/19/2020 from https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/essex/montclair/2019/11/07/wheeler-weaver-victim-asked-youre-not-serial-killer-before-death/2523290001/ Geiger, Dorian. (10/25/2019). Phony Social Account Made By Slain Woman's Family Leads To Suspected Serial Killer’s Arrest. Oxygen. Retrieved 05/22/2020 from https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/khalil-wheeler-weaver-trial-how-serial-killer-suspect-was-caught Maag, Christopher. (02/07/2020). Tiffany Taylor: Victim, victor and star witness in serial killer’s trial. NorthJersey.com. 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'It's OK': A stunning act of forgiveness in a courthouse elevator. NJ.com. Retrieved 05/22/2020 from https://www.nj.com/essex/2017/11/mother_of_accused_serial_killer_father_of_victim_s.html Azarian, Bobby Ph.D. Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes. Psychology Today. Retrieved 06/02/2020 from https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes Books Dorflinger, Don; Dorflinger, Marietta. (01/01/1999). Orange: A Postcard Guide to Its Past. Arcadia Publishing. Podcasts Host Jay and Rudeboy.  True Crime Lab:  Episode 2 Khalil Weaver- Wheeler- Text-ual Fate.  Published Nov, 21, 2019.  Oracl3 Network. Host LA.  The LA Show.  Serial Killer:  Khalil Wheeler Weaver.  Published 11/21/2019.   Hosts Austyn and Repy.  Hell and High Horror Podcast.  Bonus Episode- Suspected NJ Serial Killer Khalil Wheeler. 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This week in episode 80 Beth and Wendy Discuss the case of Antoinette Frank, a police officer in New Orleans, who killed three people during a robbery, including another police officer. So more of a mass murderer than a serial killer, BUT.... she might actually BE a serial killer. We’ll get into it.  Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? 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This week we discuss the Richmond Spree Murders. Ricky Gray and Ray Dandridge, an uncle and his nephew, who went on a killing spree, beginning in December of 2005 and ending in January 2006. Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? You can support the show by rating and reviewing Fruitloops on iTunes, or anywhere else that you get your podcasts from.  We would love it if you gave us 5 stars! 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[audio src="https://fruitloopspod.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/kenneth-erskine.mp3"][/audio] This week Beth and Wendy discuss Kenneth Erskine, AKA the Stockwell Strangler, a British serial killer who committed the murders of at least seven people. They were all senior citizens, men and women, in London between April and July 1986. Police also suspected Erskine of four other murders.  Thanks for listening! This is a weekly podcast and new episodes drop every Thursday, so until next time... look alive guys, it's crazy out there! Where to find us: Our Facebook page is Fruitloopspod and our discussion group is Fruitloopspod Discussion on Facebook; https://www.facebook.com/groups/fruitloopspod/ We are also on Twitter and Instagram @fruitloopspod Please send any questions or comments to fruitloopspod@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 602-935-6294.  We just might read your email or play your voicemail on the show! Want to Support the show? 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