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Getting Off
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Criminal defense attorneys Jessa Nicholson Goetz and Nicholas (Nick) Gansner discuss high profile trials, defense strategies, popular culture’s fixation on crime, and all other things related to criminal justice and criminal law. We try to use actual trial records and motions to explain how a verdict is reached in cases that surprise people, and to highlight some lesser known cases. We also like to talk about bail, criminal justice reform, juvenile justice, etc. We think we are kind of funny some days, and hope you do, too. Other days, we're pretty angry, and we hope you are, too. This is unedited and low-fi, so if you're skilled in sound engineering or production, we'll probably drive you crazy (apologies in advance.)
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In this episode, Jessa and Nick take turns yelling into the void. In the first half, Nick continues to be psychologically tortured by the second change of venue question that prioritises convenience over The Constitution. He then passes the soapbox to Jessa, who careens off track to yell about the bad apple argument, cops, and protesters.
Jessa and Nick continue analyzing the state prosecution of the police charged with beating Rodney King. They break down why the Court of Appeal issued an order to the trial court that said the legalese equivalent of ‘Why did you say that?’, Jessa makes “Jessa's Law” (and the controversial switch from wine to White Claw), and Nick freaks out about the lack of criteria for venue changes.
It's a timeline, y'all. Of one of the most infamous cases of the 20th century.
Jessa is joined by friend of the show Attorney Adam Nero of Nelson Defense Group. Adam is an excellent drunk driving defense lawyer and all-around good guy, and he helped take the subject away from murder and rape for once.
Jessa and Nick are joined by the host of Slate's Hi-Phi Nation to discuss philosophical issues surrounding the criminal justice system.
What is Breonna's Law and will it make a difference? Why were the attempted homicide charges originally filed against her boyfriend dismissed? Listen here and find out.
It's February 2nd 1922, and all of Hollywood is about to wake up and learn that William Desmond Taylor, the most famous film director in town, was murdered in his home last night. The investigation will shine a light on some of Hollywood's most scandalous affairs, backroom deals, and underground drug dens. This real life Murder Mystery is one of the most iconic "whodunnit" cases of the 20th century that will leave you guessing and second guessing who killed William Desmond Taylor for weeks to come.
Listen today at wondery.fm/gettingoffMiH (http://wondery.fm/conspiratorsMiH)
The one where Jessa is pissed off.
Is social media shaming a good thing? Does it function similarly to the way the criminal justice system does, or is it a whole different animal? Jessa and Nick get philosophical.
We are deviating from scheduled programming to discuss current events because we believe you cannot have a pulse, work in the criminal justice system, and not respond to what's happening in our country.
Get involved.
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Nick and Jessa talk about a viral video that highlights some of the potential problems with Marsy's Law.
Jessa and Nick talk about the now-constitutionally mandated Marsy's Law in Wisconsin.
Nick and Jessa get an incredible opporunity to talk to death row inmate Terry Robinson and journalist Tessie Castillo about their new book, Crimson Letters: Voices From Death Row. It's available on amazon.com and there's a link on the www.gettingoffpod.com website to purchase.
Jessa and Nick wrap up the conversation about the criminalization of potential HIV spread.
Jessa and Nick talk facts. Also, we were named one of the top ten criminal defense podcasts. Check the rest of the list out here! https://blog.feedspot.com/criminal_defense_podcasts/
It's so topical, guys! Let's talk about what happens when we line up public health crises and the law!
Nick and Jessa talk about how criminal law bizarrely dictates the discussion around some judicial elections, how it was that most states postponed their primaries but Wisconsin's happened with in-person voting, and more from quarantine life.
Jessa and Nick are social distancing and recording, which has led to arguably the worst audio they've ever produced. (Which all of you know is really saying something.) We rushed to post this because we missed last week and did not send it to our editor. If it's intolerable, let us know and we'll pull it and have it edited and put it back up. We think it's a fun conversation about appeals, competency, and how courts define words, though.
Jessa and Nick had technical difficulties due to the ongoing social distancing orders, so she is joined by Paisley, their associate attorney, to discuss the legal standards applied to determining if a defendant can represent themselves and what role standby counsel plays in trials with pro se defendants.
Nick and Jessa are back to finally tackle the "People's Choice" case voted for on Facebook...like three months later. Oops. They're going all the way back to the early 90's in Texas. Part 1 introduces the case of Scott Panetti, a man with a lengthy and well-documented history of mental illness, who was charged with capital offenses. They also break down the differences between NGI and competency.
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What a pair of arrogant picks!!