Grow Everything Biotech Podcast

Karl and Erum sit down with Gabe Tavas, CEO and co-founder of Symmetry Wood, who is pioneering a revolutionary approach to wood production. Gabe shares his journey from design student to bio-innovator, inspired by his time volunteering in rural Ecuador where he witnessed the devastating impact of plastic waste. His company has developed Pyrus, the first solid wood made primarily from bacterial nanocellulose—specifically, waste from the world's largest kombucha brewery. Instead of logging endangered tropical hardwoods, Symmetry Wood is targeting the high-end guitar industry first, proving that biodesigned materials can meet the most demanding performance standards. Gabe discusses the technical challenges of working with living systems, the importance of starting with niche markets before scaling to mass production, and his vision for fab cities where wood and other materials are manufactured locally from urban waste. This conversation bridges design, biology, and entrepreneurship, offering a glimpse into a future where we can create beautiful, high-performance materials without harming forests or ecosystems.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:(00:00:00) - Introduction: Daylight Savings & The Joy of Extra Sleep(00:02:58) - The Art of Repair: Erum's Kintsugi Journey(00:05:18) - Wine as Art: Drops of God & Sensory Storytelling(00:06:25) - Cosmic Mysteries: Comet Atlas & The Wow Signal(00:09:39) - Synonym's Latest: Scaling Bio-Manufacturing(00:11:44) - Meet Gabe Tavas: The Man Growing Wood From Bacteria(00:15:00) - From Ecuador to Biodesign: Finding Purpose in Plastic Waste(00:18:58) - The Science Unveiled: How Pyrus Mimics Natural Wood(00:22:40) - Living Factories: The Challenge of Working With Microbes(00:25:00) - Circular Innovation: Transforming Kombucha Waste Into Premium Materials(00:31:23) - Strategic Launch: Why Start With $10,000 Guitars?(00:35:38) - Ecological Symbiosis: Co-Creating Materials With Nature(00:39:00) - The Fab City Vision: Localized Bio-Manufacturing Revolution(00:42:00) - Quick Fire: Gabe's Favorite Materials, Books & Bio-Inspirations(00:43:44) - Closing Thoughts: What It Takes to Build the Bio-EconomyLinks and Resources:Symmetry WoodSymmetry Wood InstagramSymmetry Wood LinkedInSymmetry Wood on CBS series The VisoneersLand Art GeneratorInvent WoodSynonym Partnered with BrenntagBiofabricate138. Living Textures, Wild Pigments: Suzanne Lee on Nature’s New Aesthetic ToolboxJuniper VC153. Ghosts of Biotech Past: Veronica Breckenridge’s Playbook for Smarter ScalingAvi Loeb on the 3I/ATLASTedX⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Topics Covered: biomaterials, wood, lumber, bacterial cellulose, industrial biomanufacturing, biotech, businessHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com

In this Halloween-themed episode, Veronica Breckenridge from First Bite returns to discuss her eye-opening "Industrial Bio-Manufacturing Graveyard Report." Drawing from her experience scaling companies like Apple and Tesla, Veronica reveals why 80% of bio-manufacturing startups fail—and it's not because of bad science. The conversation explores critical mistakes like targeting commodity markets too early, underestimating downstream processing costs, and the "build it and they will come" mentality that has buried promising ventures. Veronica explains why now is actually the best time to invest in bio-manufacturing, citing decreasing costs (3 million times cheaper in 25 years), rising consumer demand for healthier alternatives to petroleum-based products, and increased government support for domestic manufacturing. She shares tactical advice on patient capital structures, the importance of strategic partnerships over going solo, and why bio-manufacturing is more analogous to hardware scaling than pharmaceutical development. The episode offers valuable lessons for founders, investors, and anyone interested in the future of sustainable manufacturing.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:(00:00:00) - Halloween intro and SNL's Snack Homies discussion(00:04:17) - Zombie apocalypse: Could fungi or viruses cause real zombies?(00:09:12) - Beyond Meat stock surge and meme trading(00:11:34) - Introducing the Graveyard Report and Veronica Breckenridge(00:14:23) - Why Veronica moved from Tesla to bio-manufacturing(00:19:45) - The three recurring market fit errors killing startups(00:27:56) - Why targeting commodity markets is a seductive trap(00:35:18) - Downstream processing: The overlooked cost killer(00:42:31) - CapEx overruns and the importance of strategic partnerships(00:48:07) - Patient capital structures for deep tech ventures(00:53:22) - What makes this moment different: Why invest now(00:58:14) - Quick fire questions and closing thoughtsLinks and Resources:First BightThe Industrial Biomanufacturing Graveyard ReportBiowell Biotech AcceleratorGinkgo ConsultingCapgeminiMcKinsey120. Busting Biotech's Bottlenecks: Veronica Breckenridge on the Path to Industrial Scale151. Report on Reports: Cash Flow, Carbon, and the BioeconomyZombie-like effects from fungusBeyond Meat’s Stock SpikeTedX BostonTechnoeconomic Analysis Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Topics Covered: industrial biomanufacturing, biotech, business, growth stage, graveyard report, halloweenHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

In this episode, we explore how Varda Space Industries is pioneering pharmaceutical manufacturing in microgravity with Chief Strategy Officer Michael Riley and Chief Science Officer Adrian Radocea. The team discusses how removing gravity from the crystallization process enables better drug formulations—creating more stable, bioavailable medicines that don't require refrigeration. From their reusable spacecraft that can manufacture drugs in orbit and return them to Earth, to their vision of making space-based manufacturing routine and "boring," Varda is bridging aerospace engineering and biopharma to solve formulation challenges that have stumped the industry for decades. With $187 million in recent funding and spacecraft currently in orbit, they're transforming science fiction into a manufacturing platform that could expand access to medicines globally.Chapters:(00:00:00) Teaser and Introduction(00:05:00) Meet the Team: From Semiconductors and Global Health to Space Pharma(00:08:00) Microgravity as a Manufacturing Tool: Physics Over Chemistry(00:13:00) Which Drugs Benefit Most? Small Molecules to Antibodies(00:15:00) Bridging Aerospace and Biopharma Cultures(00:17:00) Current Mission: A Lab (and Soon Factory) in Space(00:21:00) Surprising Gravity Effects Even at 800 RPM(00:25:00) Making Space Manufacturing Cost-Effective(00:29:00) The 10-Year Vision: Routine, Industrial, and "Boring"(00:31:00) Hiring Across Aerospace and Pharma + Quick Fire QuestionsEpisode Links:VARDAElliot Hershberg on VARDA Elliot Hershberg and Patrick McCormick on VARDAElizabeth ReynoldsChris Mason Episode ⁠⁠Kate Rubins Episode⁠ ⁠Erika DeBenedictis EpisodeKyle Landry EpisodeGrow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingTopics Covered: space biotech, drug development, space research, low earth orbit, microgravity, crystallization  Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram  / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow Everything

In this episode, Erum and Karl unpack six major reports that define the current state of synthetic biology and the bioeconomy. From investment trends to national security concerns, from manufacturing failures to trillion-dollar opportunities, these reports paint a complex picture of an industry at a critical turning point.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingChapters:(00:00:00) - Introduction: A Report on Reports(00:01:00) - The Ig Noble Prize for Meta-Reporting(00:02:00) - SynBioBeta Investment Trends: Easy Money's Gone(00:06:00) - World Economic Forum: Leading with Value, Not Technology(00:11:00) - First Bite's Manufacturing Graveyard: Learning from Failure(00:18:00) - AB4S Report: Biology's Climate Potential(00:24:00) - National Security Commission: The US is Falling Behind(00:33:00) - Bio & Kearney: The Hidden Bioeconomy(00:39:00) - Cross-Report Themes and Contradictions(00:45:00) - Quick Fire Questions(00:48:00) - Final Thoughts: From Science to InfrastructureEpisode Links:Ig Nobel PrizeSynBioBeta 2025 Investment ReportWorld Economic Forum’s Report with CapgeminiAdvanced Biotech for Sustainability Coalition Report BIO and Kearney’s Bioeconomy Impact Modelling Report National Security Commission on Emerging Biotechnologies Report  First Bight Ventures to Buy a Manufacturing Graveyard Report Our Live 150th episode Alexander Titus' episodeAngela Belcher's episodeGenspaceBreak into BiotechNSF and NVIDIA PartnershipTopics Covered: natural resources, feedstocks, bioprocessings, biomanufacturing, consumer products and goods, biotech, industry reports Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553⁠Instagram⁠/⁠Twitter⁠/⁠LinkedIn⁠/⁠Youtube⁠/⁠Grow Everything

In this special 150th episode of Grow Everything, Erum and Karl broadcast live from the BioFab Fair 2025 in London. They explore the innovative world of biology as technology with special guests Elliot Roth and Amanda (from Mothership Materials), discussing community biotech labs, biopunk culture, and sustainable feedstocks for the bioeconomy.Chapters:(00:00:00) - Introduction to BioFab Fair 2025(00:01:43) - Reflections on day one of BioFab Fair(00:06:00) - Interview with Elliot Roth on Biopunk culture(00:07:00) - From hacker to punk: Redefining biotech development(00:10:00) - The rise of community bio labs and why they're having a moment(00:12:00) - Missing small business biotech and problems with VC funding(00:14:00) - Weird biotech innovations around the world(00:20:00) - Global tour insights and medical tourism observations(00:24:00) - Call to action for Biopunk movement(00:27:00) - Interview with Amanda from Mothership Materials(00:28:00) - Breakthrough technology for agricultural waste processing(00:30:00) - The importance of glucose for scaling biomanufacturing(00:34:00) - Introducing "Microbe Munch" - specialized sugar for microbes(00:38:00) - The future of distributed biomanufacturingEpisode Links:Gozen Lunaform video. Wow! - https://vimeo.com/1061047875Biopunk Lab - https://biopunklab.com/Pacagen - https://pacagen.com/Deep Science Ventures - https://www.deepscienceventures.com/Mothership Materials - https://www.mothershipmaterials.com/Topics Covered:Biofabricate, Biofab Fair, live recording, 150 episodes, biomaterials, textiles, fabrics, furniture, community biotech, biopunk, cultivation, microbes, bioprocessing, biomanufacturing, waste agricultureHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram / Twitter/ LinkedIn / Youtube/ Grow Everything

This episode explores the journey from scientific breakthrough to scalable industrial implementation. Phil Morle — partner at Main Sequence and co‑founder of Pollenizer — explains how strategic off‑takes generate market pull, the reasons nylon recycling advanced faster than PET, and the orchestration techniques required to progress from First-Of-A-Kind (FOAK) to Next-Of-A-Kind (NOAK) facilities. The conversation covers practical aspects of costs, partnership development, policy incentives, and industrial realities, including Phil's pragmatic test: "if it doesn't need a forklift, it's not relevant."Chapters:(00:00:00) – Intro and producer mindse (00:06:53) – Orchestration and Samsara origin story(00:07:53) – Market pull with Woolworths and ANU enzymes(00:11:12) – Why nylon before PET(00:12:12) – Offtake vs. equity checks(00:31:40) – Industrial reality: the forklift test(00:33:56) – Samsara's infinite-recycling facility(00:34:33) – Biomanufacturing as infrastructure(00:40:25) – FOAK to NOAK playbooks(00:55:00) – Cauldron's HyperFermentation infrastructureEpisode Links:- Main Sequence Ventures - https://www.mseq.vc/- Lululemon & Samsara deal - https://corporate.lululemon.com/media/our-stories/2025/lululemon-and-samsara-eco-announce-10-year-plan-to-advance-recycled-material-portfolio)- Future of Fungi Awards - https://www.futureisfungi.org/- **Michele Stansfield Episode** - https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/messaginglab/episodes/85--Always-Be-Brewing-Continuous-Fermentation-with-Cauldrons-Michele-Stansfield-e2lu3kdTopics Covered:venture capital, ecosystem orchestration, biotech, australian businessHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram/Twitter/LinkedIn/Youtube/Grow Everything

In this episode of Grow Everything, hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez sit down with Dr. Alessandra Zonari, co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer at OneSkin. Alessandra shares her personal journey from Brazil to biotech, driven by a mission to transform how we think about aging. She explains the science of cellular senescence, the discovery of the groundbreaking OS-1 peptide, and why skin is more than a beauty surface—it’s a window into systemic health and longevity. Listeners will hear candid insights into the challenges of translating biotech discoveries into consumer products, the importance of radical transparency in science communication, and where peptides and personalized skincare fit into the future of the longevity movement. This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about synthetic biology, sustainable innovation, and the science of healthy agingGrow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingChapters:(00:00:00) Welcome to Grow Everything Podcast(00:00:18) London's Bio Fab Fair Recap(00:02:34) Biotech's Bottom Line Impact(00:05:49) Pharma's Path to Consumer Products(00:08:00) The Accidental Discovery of Splenda(00:09:26) Meet Dr. Alessandra Zonari(00:10:54) A Scientist's Personal Mission(00:13:15) "Zombie Cells" and Skin Aging(00:16:30) Longevity Science vs. Marketing(00:18:28) The Hunt for the OS-01 Peptide(00:21:39) The Five-Year Path to Market(00:22:49) Science-First Communication(00:28:21) The Challenge of Going to Market(00:31:16) Communicating to Beauty vs. Biotech(00:33:45) The Future: Personalized Peptides(00:36:24) Why Science Storytelling Fails(00:38:42) Advice for Scientist-Founders(00:40:00) Peptide vs. SPF(00:40:42) Busting the Biggest Aging Myth(00:41:11) The Future of Personalized Aging(00:43:33) Why Aging is "Excited"(00:44:15) Actress or Astronaut(00:46:17) Peptides as "Cell Messages"Episode Links:Julie wolf episodeOneSkinTopics Covered: skincare, cellular senescence, peptides, OneSkin, skin health, anti agingHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553

What if we could treat debilitating diseases by listening in on the "secret, invisible language" of worms? In this groundbreaking episode, we talk with Dr. Andrea Choe, Co-Founder and CEO of Holoclara, who uncovered a "universal worm language" used for hundreds of millions of years. Dr. Choe reveals how our modern "aggressive hygiene routine" removed the worms we co-evolved with, leading to a rise in allergic and autoimmune diseases. Discover how her team is pioneering a new class of safe, orally available therapies by synthesizing worm-derived molecules that "rebalance" our immune systems and have already blocked disease in animal models. This is a fascinating journey from a fundamental discovery in evolutionary biology to the cutting edge of biotech innovation.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingChapters:(00:00:00) Welcome to Grow Everything Podcast(00:00:18) NYC Biotech and Climate Week Recap(00:08:43) Science News: Comets and Octopuses(00:15:17) Meet Dr. Andrea Choe(00:15:52) From Researcher to Founder: The Call to Action(00:17:25) Discovering the Universal "Worm Language"(00:25:11) Connecting Worm Secretions to Therapeutics(00:29:49) How Modern Hygiene Created an Immune Imbalance(00:34:35) Navigating the Hurdles of Natural Medicine(00:38:50) Holoclara's Mission to Treat Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EoE)(00:42:25) Holoclara's Phase 1 Safety and Trial Results(00:51:03) Moonshot Vision: A "Worm Atlas" of Molecules(00:52:28) The Strategy for Patenting Natural Molecules(00:54:33) Worm Superpowers & Immune Myths(00:58:25) Reflecting on Nature's Untapped Answers(01:02:41) Coming Up on Grow EverythingEpisode Links:HoloclaraHuman Genome project Diary of a worm - Doreen Cronin Wildlife of Our Bodies - Rob DunnSuzanne Lee  Ep Glennis Mehra EpEllen Jorgensen EpInnolabsNucleate Biolabs NYU LangoneGenspaceBiotech Without Borders Newlab Climate Week Event - sign up and get tickets now! Interstellar Comet Moving Through Our Solar SystemTopics Covered: immune system, biotherapeutics, worms, evolution, helminthic immunomodulation, medicine, pharmaceuticals  Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram  / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow Everything

In this episode of Grow Everything, hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez talk with Benji Leibowitz, Co-Founder of Pump Science, about what it really means to be “DAO-ing science differently.” From the early days of Molecule DAO to today’s crypto-native platform for funding longevity and nootropics research, Benji explains how decentralized science (DeSci) can rebuild healthcare and biotech from the ground up. By combining bonding curves, tokenized IP, and radical transparency with live-streamed worm and fly experiments, Pump Science is transforming science into an attention game that’s fast, fun, and open to everyone. Tune in to hear how DAO-driven models are unlocking underfunded areas like longevity, attracting crypto investors, and creating a new culture where research is not only transparent but also entertaining.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingChapters:(00:00:00) Welcome to the Grow Everything Podcast(00:00:49) Proposed U.S. budget cuts to research(00:01:59) How jargon fuels skepticism in science(00:02:25) China's bioeconomy surpassing U.S. in biotech investment(00:04:31) Rising gut imbalance in infants: My Baby Biome study(00:06:35) Billionaires investing heavily in longevity research(00:08:21) Wishing for more entertaining "fun" billionaires(00:10:26) Meet Benji(00:13:07) Rebuilding healthcare and biotech from scratch (DeSci)(00:15:15) From tokenizing biotech IP to Pump Science’s new model(00:18:09) Focusing on longevity to attract crypto investors(00:23:56) Optimizing experiments with C. elegans worms(00:27:47) A high-velocity "casino" model backed by real IP(00:33:18) Launching compound tokens on a bonding curve(00:36:36) Funding research through small trading fees(00:40:34) Gamifying research: rewarding top-performing compounds ("King of the Pill")(00:43:23) Using live streams for trust and funding transparency (DeSci)(00:46:35) "Fly races" as entertainment and a longevity indicator(00:48:56) Excitement for performance enhancement and nootropics (Pump Science)(00:50:14) Rapid-fire guest Q&A(00:51:32) Advice for newcomers to Pump Science(00:53:06) Reflecting on the guest's model for funding science(00:55:31) DeSci’s potential to build a parallel healthcare systemEpisode Links:Advocate for Science - Contact Your CongresspersonPump.ScienceMoleculeDAODeSci 101 EpisodeLaura Miniquini Episode Michael Fisher EpisodeJocelynn Pearl EpisodeAlbert Anis EpisodeStephanie Culler, Persephone EpMomo and Guru - Viome EpisodeMap of Longevity Companies Attracting Investor InterestThe Gut Microbiome Protects Infants from DisasesBioFab Fair - Use promo code: GROW10 for a discount to attend! Topics Covered: Decentralized science, DAO, longevity, open science, crypto science   Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram  / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow Everything

In this highlight reel episode of Grow Everything, hosts Erum Azeez and Karl Schmieder dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of decentralized science (DeSci). Featuring expert insights from Albert Anis, Jocelyn Pearl, Michael Fisher, and Laura Minquinin, this episode explores how DeSci is revolutionizing the way research is funded, shared, and governed — far beyond traditional academic systems. You’ll hear how blockchain, bioDAOs, and decentralized funding models are enabling faster, more collaborative innovation across the life sciences. Whether you're a researcher, founder, or biotech enthusiast, this conversation unpacks the tools, values, and infrastructure reshaping the future of scientific discovery. From autonomous agents designing experiments to the Solana-based $BIO token, this episode distills cutting-edge developments into a compelling introduction to the DeSci movement — and why it matters now more than ever.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverythingChapters:(00:00:15) Welcome to the Grow Everything Podcast(00:00:44) Travels and reading Bossy Pants(00:01:34) Highlighting September as Blood Cancer Awareness Month(00:02:20) Innovations in biopharma and cancer therapies like CAR T(00:02:53) The science of how sleep flushes waste from the brain(00:04:07) A deep dive into sulforaphane for cognitive benefits(00:05:07) The challenge of getting effective quantities of molecules from food(00:06:20) Introducing Decentralized Science (DeSci)(00:07:05) Why DeSci is important: Democratizing science and making it accessible(00:09:08) DeSci's role as an alternative funding mechanism for scientific research(00:10:54) Defining DeSci as science improved by the blockchain(00:11:27) How token incentives work in DeSci research projects(00:12:56) Contrasting DeSci's crowdsourcing model with traditional science funding(00:14:43) Defining a DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization)(00:15:46) The origins of decentralized science and ValleyDAO(00:18:35) Explaining DeSci by comparing it to decentralized finance (DeFi)(00:19:40) How the broken scientific publishing model needs disruption(00:20:50) Breaking open the "black box of biotech" with LabDAO(00:22:40) DeSci as a tool to fund overlooked areas of research(00:22:57) How DeSci addresses major problems like publishing and reproducibility(00:23:43) The mission of Athena DAO to fund women's health research(00:25:33) DeSci movement(00:26:09) The idea of a DeSci-funded cloud lab for global collaborationEpisode Links:Michael Fischer episodeJocelynn Pearl episodeAlbert Anis episodeLaura Minquini episodeHow Your Brain’s Nightly Cleanse Keeps It HealthyDeSci WikiBioFab Fair - Use promo code: GROW10 for a discount to attend! Topics Covered: biotech beauty, space biotech, skin care, biomanufacturing, longevity, extremophiles  Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram  / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow Everything

Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez sit down with Karen Ingram, Creative Director & Designer at Karen Ingram & Associates, Inc. From her iconic Biogenetic Blooms—Petri dish paintings made with living yeast—to her innovative teaching with BioBuilder and playful experiments like Fallacy Bingo, Karen shows how science and creativity can merge to inspire broader engagement with biotechnology. She shares stories from the early Brooklyn biohacker days, reflects on teaching teenagers to think critically about designing life, and explains how art, games, and design can shape the future of the bioeconomy. This is where art truly meets agar—transforming living microbes into canvases and reimagining the possibilities of biodesign.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:(00:00:00): Summer travel in the Hamptons.(00:01:35): Sag Harbor’s Whaling History – The town’s past as a whaling hub using whale oil.(00:02:31): From Bioeconomy to Petrochemicals – Petroleum discovery quickly ends whaling.(00:03:59): The Basque Whalers – Early European whaling led by the Basques.(00:04:54): Positive Whale News – Australia’s humpback whales are making a comeback.(00:07:08): The Genetic Manual – Penn study finds 25% of young ICU patients have treatment-altering mutations.(00:08:22): The Healthcare Gap – Why advanced health data isn’t used enough.(00:11:08): The Wood Wide Web – Mapping underground mushroom networks that link ecosystems.(00:14:11): Meet Karen Ingram.(00:16:28): Karen’s Origin Story – Interest in tech and nature leads her to synthetic biology.(00:17:58): Early Brooklyn Biotech – Genspace and starting bio-art projects.(00:19:51): Biogenetic Blooms – Karen paints flowers in Petri dishes with engineered yeast.(00:24:19): Teaching BioBuilder – Co-authoring a book for teens on synbio and ethics.(00:28:13): Designing for Accessibility – Making biotech exciting and easy to understand.(00:29:44): Fallacy Bingo – Creating a game mixing nightlife with logical fallacies.(00:36:31): Collab Futures – Building collaborations between scientists and creatives.(00:38:28): Gaming in Science – Using games for emotional, memorable science communication.(00:45:57): Biotech Collaborations – Karen’s stop-motion art with Triton Bio.(00:48:50): A tool Karen can’t live without(00:49:34): A SynBio project she’d revisit.(00:49:51): Misconceptions about mixing art and science.(00:50:12): Defining her true studio(00:52:40): Super Convergence – Why merging disciplines matters.(00:54:20): Endless Biotech Jobs – Encouragement for newcomers to explore creative biotech careers.Links and Resources:Karen Ingram & Associates Inc.Biogenetic BloomsBiobat Biobuilder - Synthetic Biology in the Lab Natalie KuldellKaren Ingram SubstackFallacy BingoCoLab FuturesGenspace Caveat - Facts Machine: Science Comedy Trivia NightTritonBioDan GrushkinMegan PalmerCasey Lardner The Patient Will See You Know by Eric Topol Drivas lab demonstrates the benefit of genetic testing in critically ill adultsSociety for the Protection of Underground Networks (SPUN)BioFab Fair - Use promo code: GROW10 for a discount to attend! Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez sit down with Dr. Kyle Landry, President and Co-founder of Delavie Sciences, to explore how extremophiles—microbes that survive in the harshest environments on Earth and space—are unlocking new frontiers in skincare and longevity. Kyle shares his unconventional path from food science to biodefense to NASA collaborations, revealing how a microbe that survived 18 months outside the International Space Station became the foundation for a groundbreaking sunscreen ingredient. The conversation dives into longevity science, microbial resilience, the future of skincare as true preventative health, and the entrepreneurial challenge of scaling biotech innovations from test tube to industrial reactors.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Links and Resources:Chris Mason Episode Kate Rubins Episode Erika DeBenedictis EpisodeLifespan.ioFight Aging! Delavie Sciences David Sinclair’s Novel - Lifespan: Why We Age and Why We Don’t Have To Efficacy of a Novel SPF Booster Based on Research Aboard the International Space StationNASA iTECHChapters:(00:00:00) - Introduction to the episode and the Grow Everything podcast(00:00:49) - Aging by Biotech NYC event overview(00:03:35) - Tips on being a great moderator(00:04:03) - Keys to moderating well: preparation and audience engagement(00:07:20) - Notable absence of space topics at longevity event(00:09:40) - Guest introduction: Dr. Kyle Landry and his background(00:10:13) - Story of how the hosts met Kyle Landry(00:11:42) - Career journey from food science to skincare(00:14:27) - Inspiration from space research leading to Delavie Sciences(00:17:25) - How Delavie’s product works at a molecular level for sun protection and anti-aging(00:20:43) - Evolution of the space microbe and cultivation on Earth(00:22:31) - What it means for a microbe to “sit outside the space station”(00:23:26) - Professional connections with other Grow Everything guests, Chris Mason and Dr. Kate Rubins(00:24:29) - Potential for Delavie to expand beyond skincare into new industries(00:26:11) - Lessons from researching extremophiles and challenges of working with new organisms(00:28:22) - Role in mentoring students and researchers(00:31:36) - Rethinking health and resilience in biotechnology(00:33:20) - Exploring the “product versus platform” dilemma in biotech entrepreneurship(00:34:48) - How Delavie functions as both a technology platform and a product company(00:36:29) - Corporate partnerships and product applications of Delavie’s ingredients(00:38:53) - Clarification: using microbial compounds, not live bacteria, in products(00:39:59) - Importance of protecting the skin microbiome without disrupting it(00:42:46) - The future of skincare and longevity(00:45:03) - Quick-fire questions begin(00:45:19) - Weirdest place to hunt for a microbe(00:45:31) - Bio-fact most people don’t believe but should(00:46:48) - Personal skincare non-negotiable(00:48:20) - Would you rather halt or reverse aging?(00:48:51) - Weirdest place a sample has been collected(00:51:14) - Post-interview reflections and discussion(00:52:54) - Takeaways from the interview and the concept of convergence(00:54:03) - Conversation on Umami flavor and UV light spectrums(00:56:00) - Regulatory differences in sunscreen between the US and Europe(00:58:14) - Announcement of the BioFabricate Fair and listener discount codeTopics Covered: biotech beauty, space biotech, skin care, biomanufacturing, longevity, extremophiles  Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553Instagram  / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow Everything

Karl and Erum speak with Richard Traherne of Capgemini Invent and Cambridge Consultants, where they explore the explosive convergence of engineering biology, artificial intelligence, and sustainable innovation. Richard reveals how programmable biology is catalyzing a new industrial revolution—transitioning biotech from niche innovation to foundational infrastructure across sectors like food, fashion, personal care, and manufacturing. From building predictive bio-labs to deploying proprietary large language models for enzyme design, Richard shares how his team is helping companies leap from conceptual curiosity to commercial readiness. The conversation dives into challenges faced by both bio-literate and bio-novice enterprises, the importance of storytelling and regulatory support, and how a truly bio-native design mindset can unlock regenerative, high-performance solutions. This episode is a must-listen for biotech professionals, sustainability strategists, and innovation leaders eager to scale with intention in the emerging bioeconomy.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Stepping Into the Era of Programmable Biology00:01:04 - Inside a Workshop on Designing Life with Code00:06:31 - Longevity Breakthroughs: Tackling Aging with Biotech00:08:40 - The Beauty Revolution Powered by Regenerative Biology00:12:31 - Turning Biotech Ideas into Market-Ready Innovations00:14:05 - Spotlight Conversation with Richard Traherne00:32:34 - Slashing Discovery Costs in Energy and Fuels00:33:03 - The Real-World Hurdles of Bringing Biology to Life00:33:41 - Winning Trust in Bioengineered Solutions00:36:13 - Scaling Biology to Power the Global Bioeconomy00:41:12 - How AI Is Supercharging Biotechnology00:44:42 - Engineering Biology for a Sustainable Future00:48:39 - Game-Changing Bio Projects and Their Ripple Effects00:52:30 - What’s Next for the Future of Engineering Biology00:55:32 - Quickfire Insights and Closing ThoughtsLinks and Resources:109. Long Live Vitalia: The City Where Aging Slows and Innovation Accelerates With Niklas Anzinger137. Hack to the Future: Shelby Newsad on Biohacking Breakthroughs50. The Dye-Hard Innovator: Natsai Chieza Designs Change for the Fashion Industry and the WorldCapgemini Engineering Biology Report: Access here Capgemini Lab Breakthrough hereCapgemini CRI: Unlocking the potential of engineering biology: The time is nowCapgemini x WEF: From Policy to Practice: Actionable Recommendations for a Commercial BioeconomyCapgemini x WEF: Next Generation Bio-Innovation: Delivering Commercial ValueCapgemini x WEF: Accelerating the tech-driven bioeconomy⁠Topics Covered: biotech consulting, bioengineering, innovation adoption, integration, bio-based, systems biologyHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

In this episode of Grow Everything, Erum sits down with Momo Vuyisich and Guruduth (Guru) Banavar of Viome to explore how decoding the human microbiome could transform the way we understand and treat disease. From the depletion of beneficial gut bacteria to the cutting-edge use of AI in precision health, Momo and Guru share how Viome’s technology turns deep biological insights into actionable, personalized health recommendations. Along the way, they connect the dots between gut science, chronic illness prevention, and the massive opportunity for biomanufacturing to deliver scalable wellness solutions. This is a conversation that blends molecular biology with real-world impact—perfect for anyone intrigued by the intersection of synthetic biology, health tech, and sustainability.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Kicking Off Grow Everything with Big Biotech Energy00:00:39 - Bright Spots and Breakthroughs Lighting Up the Biotech World00:02:12 - How Policy Shapes the Future of Scientific Discovery00:03:43 - Farming the Future: Biotech’s Role in Agriculture00:05:12 - Plastics, Planet Health, and the Human Cost00:08:18 - Unlocking the Secrets of the Human Microbiome00:09:11 - Meet the Visionaries Behind Viome00:15:18 - RNA Revealed: The Tiny Molecule with a Massive Health Impact00:24:46 - AI Meets Your Plate: The Science of Personalized Nutrition00:38:52 - Peering Into Life’s Code with Molecular Models and AI00:39:40 - What Sequencing Data Can Really Tell Us00:40:29 - Surprising Microbiome Patterns You’ve Never Heard Of00:42:47 - How Steady Is Your Gut’s Microbial Universe?00:43:47 - The Lasting Effects of Antibiotics on Your Microbiome00:45:55 - Real Stories from Viome Clients Changing Their Health00:50:17 - Behind the Scenes of Viome’s Clinical Collaborations00:52:19 - Reimagining the Future of Healthcare00:55:34 - Lightning Round: Quick Questions, Big Insights01:02:38 - Connecting the Dots Between RNA and the Microbiome01:08:36 - Signing Off with What’s Next in the Biotech SpaceLinks and Resources:⁠Use Code: GROWEVERYTHING25 to save $110 on a Viome Full Body Intelligence™ Test.  Valid through 2025Viome Publications Illumina29. Gut Check with Stephanie Culler: Persephone’s Quest for Microbiome BreakthroughsBioFab Fair - Use promo code: GROW10 for a discount to attend! Topics Covered: Gut microbiome, oral and skin microbiome, AI, microbiome testing kit Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

In this special episode of Grow Everything, hosts Karl and Erum pull back the curtain on their own operations, offering a behind-the-scenes look at how the podcast came to life. They discuss the core mission of sharing innovative bioengineering breakthroughs, the challenges of maintaining a weekly podcast, and the team behind it all. From the technical intricacies of biomanufacturing to the strategic communications needed to make those breakthroughs accessible to a wider audience, this episode reflects on the journey, growth, and impact of the Grow Everything platform. With a mix of humor and passion for sustainability, Erum and Karl continue their mission to educate and inspire those working at the cutting edge of synthetic biology and the bioeconomy.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Kicking Off the Conversation: What’s on the Horizon?00:00:13 - Welcome to the Grow Everything Podcast: Let’s Dive In!00:00:29 - Taking You Inside Grow Everything: A Glimpse Behind the Curtain00:01:03 - From Idea to Reality: How the Podcast Came to Life00:04:27 - The Roadblocks, the Breakthroughs: What’s Shaped Our Journey00:06:24 - Crafting the Perfect Biotech Story: Marketing with Purpose00:08:08 - Changing the Game: How Our Guests Redefine the Future00:17:11 - Hot Takes on Biotech: What’s Overhyped and What’s Real?00:19:30 - How to Connect with Founders: Elevating Their Narrative00:21:15 - Uncovering Hidden Biotech Gems: The Innovators Who Deserve the Spotlight00:23:53 - The Power of the Podcast: How We Help Our Clients Shine00:27:48 - A Vision for 2030: Dream Guests and Big Ideas00:32:14 - Rapid Fire: Fun Facts, Favorites, and More!00:36:12 - Wrapping Up: A Peek at What’s Next and Future GuestsLinks and Resources:⁠What's Your Biostrategy?MessaginglabAmplafy Media 90. Flipping the Light Switch on Cells: Deniz Kent of Prolific Machines116. Cell Yeah for Space!: Pioneer Labs' Erika DeBenedictis on Engineering Life for Mars93. Houston, We Have a Protocol: NASA's Kate Rubins on Biotech in Space76. Not Boring Century of Biotech with Elliot HershbergDavid De Lucreiza on LinkedInTopics Covered: science communications, podcast creation, podcast origin, biotech messaging, startupsHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

In this episode of Grow Everything, hosts Karl and Erum dive into the world of community biology with Dr. Casey Lardner, Executive Director of Genspace. They explore how this groundbreaking Brooklyn lab is reimagining who gets to participate in science — and how. From radical accessibility and inclusive education to the launch of Gotham Foundry, Casey shares how Genspace is cultivating a culture of curiosity, creativity, and collaboration. This is a conversation about science as a shared resource, where artists, bioengineers, and everyday citizens all have a seat at the bench.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Welcome to Grow Everything: Where Bio Meets the World00:00:25 - Guest Co-Host Sabriya Stukes Drops In — Backyard BBQ to Biotech00:01:18 - What’s Buzzing in Biotech: Founders, VCs & Sound Baths00:03:48 - Redefining Community: Beyond Buzzwords in Bio00:06:38 - Genspace Unveiled: Brooklyn’s Portal to Public Science00:10:41 - From Chemistry to Community: Casey’s Unexpected Path to Genspace00:13:40 - Inside Genspace: Culture, Creativity, and the Curious00:22:06 - Radical Access: Building Biotech for Everyone00:28:55 - Live from Ilmar 2025: Big Ideas, Big Shifts00:37:35 - What’s Next? Introducing Gotham Foundry00:39:25 - Fueling Founders: How Genspace Sparks Startups00:40:23 - Why NYC is the Place to Grow Bio Right Now00:41:53 - Stay Curious: The Secret Ingredient in Science00:43:26 - Can AI Help Democratize Biology? Genspace Thinks So00:46:51 - Where Art Meets Genome: The Power of Story in Science00:51:28 - Bold Visions: What the Future Looks Like at Genspace00:55:49 - The Pulse of NYC Biotech: Reflections and Real TalkLinks and Resources:Genspace OpenPlant Genspace - growing your own insulin?Asilomar ReportsGotham FoundryIndieBioNewLab BioLabsBioFab Fair: Use promo code: GROW10 Story ColliderCaveat Facts MachineTopics Covered: biotech, community biotech, community hub, biomaterials, bio-based ingredients, GenspaceHave a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

In this thought-provoking episode of Grow Everything, host Karl sits down with Suzanne Lee, founder of Biofabricate and pioneer in the biomaterials revolution, for a conversation that redefines how we think about material innovation. With passion and precision, Suzanne shares her journey from fashion design to biodesign, revealing how her early experiments with growing microbial cellulose led to the launch of a global movement toward sustainable, biology-based materials. They explore how biology and culture are converging, why “natural” doesn’t always mean better, and how collaboration—not competition—is key to transforming industries like fashion, architecture, and consumer goods. If you're curious about the future of sustainable materials, circular design, and how the bioeconomy is taking shape through strategic partnerships and visionary creativity, this is the episode for you.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Welcome to Grow Everything: Big Questions Start Here00:00:32 - Can AI Become Conscious? Let’s Get Weird00:03:18 - Where Code Meets Cells: AI x Biology00:05:06 - From Metal Bands to Microbes in Mumbai00:09:22 - Meet Suzanne Lee: The Woman Who Grows Materials00:24:48 - Innovation Isn’t Fast—But It’s Worth It00:25:14 - Sometimes Old Tech is the Real Disruptor00:26:17 - Designing 2050: Biology Will Shape Everything00:27:05 - How to Break Free from Extraction00:27:30 - New Tech, New Rules: Use With Intention00:29:49 - What’s Next in Biofabrication (It’s Wild)00:31:55 - How Do We Make Bio Go Mainstream?00:36:35 - Why Great Design Is a Bio Superpower00:40:06 - Rapid-Fire with Suzanne Lee: Future, Fears & Fun00:44:44 - Final Thoughts + What’s Coming from BiofabricateLinks and Resources:BioFab Fair - Use promo code: GROW10 for a discount to attend! BiofabricateChatGPT Religion: The Disturbing AI CultIndia Boasts 11,000 Biotech StartupsTerrarium - sustainable materials consultancyEcovativePolybion H&M FoundationLondon Design WeekLondon Fashion WeekBIOME ConsortiaAround The World in 80 Fabrics Around the WorldTopics Covered: biotech beauty, skincare, endocrine disrupting chemicals, endometriosis, consumer biotech, supply chain, manufacturing, clean beauty, product design Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

In this episode, Karl and Erum sit down with Shelby Newsad, Partner at Compound, to unpack the explosive rise of consumer biotech, biohacking, and radical health optimization. Shelby shares inside stories from Compound’s Biohacker Demo Day, exploring how crypto funding, accessible blood testing, and personal health data are reshaping the future of healthcare. From peptides and proteome sequencing to fire-breathing dragons and continuous glucose monitors, this conversation dives deep into how individuals are reclaiming agency over their biology. If you’re fascinated by the intersection of synthetic biology, longevity, and culture, this is a must-listen.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Kicking Off: Why Biotech Is So Hard to Build00:00:17 - Road Trips & Montreal: Hosts Trade Vacation Tales00:02:05 - Big Hikes & Life Lessons on the Road00:02:41 - Is AI Making Us Dumber? A Brainy Debate00:05:52 - Stem Cells for Cats & Dogs: A Pet Health Revolution00:07:28 - Longevity Hacks & Biohacking Breakthroughs00:11:09 - Inside Biohacking Demo Day: Shelby Sets the Stage00:14:13 - Taking Control: How Biohackers Are Changing Healthcare00:17:19 - Why Your Own Health Data Is the Next Big Thing00:21:58 - Crypto Meets Science: New Ways to Fund Biotech00:26:31 - The Coming Wave of Personalized Health00:28:16 - The Surge in Consumer Blood Testing00:29:40 - How Often Should You Really Get Blood Panels?00:30:33 - Merging Health Data with AI for Real Results00:33:52 - Brian Johnson Drops Biohacking Truth Bombs00:40:06 - Making Biohacking for Everyone: Price & Access00:42:39 - Wild & Unexpected Biohacks to Watch00:46:01 - Next Frontier: Proteomics & the Future of Health00:48:22 - Lightning Round: Biohacking Hot Takes & Sign-OffLinks and Resources:CompoundUnion Square VenturesReady-made stem cell therapies for pets could be comingPump.ScienceNeutraOatFulcraPacagenRhythm HealthChargeless MitoBryan Johnson ⁠Topics Covered: biotech beauty, skincare, endocrine disrupting chemicals, endometriosis, consumer biotech, supply chain, manufacturing, clean beauty, product design Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

Karl and Erum bring on Dr. Alexander Titus, a commissioner on the National Security Commission on Emerging Biotechnology, to explore the exciting and challenging intersections of biotechnology and policy. Alexander shares his experiences from his unique journey across academia, government, and industry, diving into the role of biosecurity, the potential of synthetic biology, and the emerging convergence of tech and bio. They discuss ambitious projects like de-extincting the woolly mammoth, advances in biodefense, and the impacts of AI on biotech innovation. It’s a conversation that sheds light on how cutting-edge biotech could shape the future and the necessary balance between innovation and ethical responsibility.\Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chapters:00:00:00 - Behind the Scenes of Bureaucracy00:00:30 - Democracy’s Turning Point00:02:23 - A Fiery Day in Prospect Park00:04:20 - How Spaces Shape Our Health00:08:35 - Enter Alexander Titus: Biosecurity Visionary00:10:13 - Biotech: The New Face of National Defense00:15:09 - Where Tech and Policy Collide00:23:10 - The Future of Biosecurity Unfolds00:28:02 - Bold Science vs. Ethical Boundaries00:30:24 - Robotics Meets Biotech: What’s Next?00:33:29 - Hard Lessons from Cross-Industry Giants00:35:49 - Innovation Clashes with Red Tape00:36:11 - The Power of Expertise in Shaping Policy00:42:26 - Biotech’s Hidden Environmental Risks00:45:42 - The Commission’s Bold Path Forward00:48:45 - Parting Thoughts: What Lies AheadTopics Covered: biotech, biosecurity, national security commission on emerging biotechnology, policyEpisode Links: ⁠The Wild Life of Our Bodies by Robb Dunn ⁠ ⁠Geerat Vermeij⁠ ⁠BTO - Biological Technologies Office of DARPA⁠⁠ Bioeconomy.XYZ⁠ ⁠The Nobel Turing Challenge⁠ ⁠Range by David Epstein⁠ ⁠NSCEB Interim Report⁠ ⁠AI Safety Institute⁠ ⁠The Echo Wife by Sara Gailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GrowEverything website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media

Karl and Erum sit down with Elle Black, a product designer and manufacturing strategist whose journey into the world of skincare, AI, and biology is anything but typical. Elle shares how her background in physical product development led her to dive deep into the supplement and cosmetics industries—spaces rich with opportunity and riddled with misinformation. From decoding the intricacies of INCI labeling to navigating unregulated beauty markets, she unpacks what it really takes to build responsible, scalable consumer products. Whether you're in biotech, product innovation, or sustainability, Elle's perspective on building smarter—from ingredients to algorithms—will resonate.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.messaginglab.com/groweverything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapters:00:00:00 - Cracking Open the Beauty Industry Mystery00:00:36 - The Cosmic Luck of Being Human00:02:34 - Can We Hack Aging? Let’s Try00:07:40 - Elle Black Joins: Skin, Science & Secrets00:15:17 - Elle’s Origin Story + Clean Beauty Truths00:33:10 - The Truth About Odor-Eating Deodorants00:34:11 - Beauty Products vs. Your Fridge00:35:40 - Why Cold Shipping Costs More Than You Think00:36:31 - Calling Out the Hidden in Beauty Labels00:38:29 - Why I Created a Skincare Ritual That Listens00:39:45 - Your Hormones, Your Glow—Deeply Linked00:40:33 - A Skincare App That Knows Your Cycle00:45:19 - What Men Don’t Know About Their Skincare00:53:32 - What’s Next: AI, Supplements & Radical Transparency00:56:38 - Reflections, Mic Drops & Future MovesLinks and Resources:Same SkincareLifespan by David SinclairTranscendence by Ray KurzweilSkinceuticalsSymbiomeEndoFoundTopics Covered: biotech beauty, skincare, endocrine disrupting chemicals, endometriosis, consumer biotech, supply chain, manufacturing, clean beauty, product design Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grow Everything⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media