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Author: Roxane Gay and Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom

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Hear to Slay is the Black feminist podcast of your dreams—compelling conversations curated in only the way Black women can. Roxane Gay and Tressie McMillan Cottom offer uncommonly incisive reads of the politics that shape the world we live in and the popular culture we consume. If you want to laugh as much as you want to be challenged, if you’re seriously smart but refuse to take yourself too seriously at all, come a little closer because we are here and hear, to slay.

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Unbreaking Language

Unbreaking Language

2021-05-2513:27

Quiara Alegría Hudes is having quite a year. Roxane talks to her about writing the book for the musical “In the Heights” and then writing the screenplay for the upcoming movie version, and about her new memoir “My Broken Language.” Plus Tressie waxes poetic about white lady camp, and we hear from listeners about the meals they’re planning for when they get their people back together around the table.  Mentions:  My Broken Language, by Quiara Alegría Hudes In the Heights movie Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Catherine Fenollosa is the producer. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the associate producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura.
Barbecue as we know it was largely invented by Black people, but have been written out of BBQ history. Adrian Miller explains to Tressie and Roxane how that happened, and how to reclaim credit. Plus Michael Twitty talks to Roxane about how Black foodways are intimately bound up with the traumas of Black history. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Catherine Fenollosa is the producer. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the associate producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura.
We Won’t Forget Them

We Won’t Forget Them

2021-05-1116:54

Homages to Beverly Cleary, with Sarah Wendell, and to Cicely Tyson, with Soraya McDonald. Both Cleary and Tyson died this year, and Tressie and Roxane mark their passing with conversations about their extraordinary legacies. Plus, Tressie and Roxane weigh in on Senator Tim Scott and the burning question: is America a racist country? Spoiler alert: yes it is.  Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Fat Is Not a Feeling

Fat Is Not a Feeling

2021-05-0418:47

Tressie is hungry, and Roxane is into cookbooks. Cookbook author Julia Turshen talks about making healthy comfort food, and her own struggles with body image.  Mentions:  Simply Julia: 110 Easy Recipes for Healthy Comfort Food Carmen Cool, therapist and body justice advocate Keep Calm and Cook On podcast Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Reading is Fundamental

Reading is Fundamental

2021-04-2713:01

Books are getting us through a tough year. Novelist Kaitlyn Greenidge talks about what she’s been reading. Tressie and Roxane respond in kind. Plus, their reaction to the Derek Chauvin verdict, and book recommendations from listeners. Mentions:  Libertie by Kaitlyn Greennidge  The Cutting Season by Attica Locke  The Age of Innocence by Eidith Wharton  Afterparties by Anthony So Let the record show: A Political History of ACT UP New York by Sarah Schulman Minor Feelings: An Asian American Reckoning  by Cathy Park Hong The Whiteness of Wealth: How the Tax System Impoverishes Black Americans--and How We Can Fix It        by Dorothy A. Brown World of Wonders by Aimee Nezhukumatathil Lucky Fish by  Aimee Nezhukumatathil Oceanic by Aimee Nezhukumatathil My Monticello by Jocelyn Nicole Johnson Control Negro- Jocelyn Nicole Johnson The Prophets by Roberts Jones Jr.  Of Women and Salt- Gabriela Garcia  Dyke (geology) by Sabrina Imbler Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
No 2nd Chances

No 2nd Chances

2021-04-2014:33

America’s gun problem is rooted in race. Historian Carol Anderson explains precisely how in a conversation that also touches on white rage, white guilt, and the consequence we all pay for it. Mentions: White Rage, by Carol Anderson One Person, No Vote, by Carol Anderson The Second, by Carol Anderson Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Chopped & Screwed

Chopped & Screwed

2021-04-1312:33

Isabel Wilkerson reframes race and racism in her book Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. Here she talks about what inspired the book and about the craft behind her complex, big narratives. Spoiler: it doesn’t involve outlines. Plus, Tressie and Roxane on why you need to read more than one book about racism. Mentions: Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Black Academics have to wear too many hats, and don’t get paid for the extra work. Patricia Matthew talks about why this happens and what to do about it, and what it means outside the academy. Plus Dr. Nina Banks on the invisible labor of Black women doing community activism. To hear it all go to Luminary (https://www.luminary.link/slay) Mentions: “Why Cornell West’s Tenure Fight Matters,” by Robin D.G. Kelly Written/Unwritten: Diversity and the Hidden Truths of Tenure, ed. By Patricia Matthew Chet’s video, on Roxane’s Twitter Dr. Nina Bank’s paper Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All, by Martha S. Jones Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Adults Ain’t It

Adults Ain’t It

2021-03-1619:14

Jason Reynolds, award-winning YA author, on his love for "shorties," and why he writes specifically for kids. Also, in the extended version of this episode, Roxane and Tressie x-ray Meghan and the Royal Family, plus we hear from publisher Chris Jackson on why 2020 was such a big year for Black writers. To hear it all go to Luminary (https://www.luminary.link/slay) Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Reflections on life as a Black creative, benevolent racism, making art during the pandemic, and more. In this except: painter Jordan Casteel. For the entire conversation, and an interview with playwright Jeremy O. Harris, go to www.luminary.link/slay Notes:  Jordan Casteel’s website Jeremy O. Harris’s website Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Taking Up Space

Taking Up Space

2021-03-0220:52

Activist and storyteller Amber J. Phillips on the importance of being who you are, politically and publicly. Also, journalist Brittany Gibson on the breathtaking scope of new Republican voter suppression efforts. Notes:  Articles on voter suppression by Brittany Gibson Amber J. Phillip’s Instagram Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Freedom to Breathe

Freedom to Breathe

2021-02-2324:10

Senator Elizabeth Warren on the moral and political imperative of forgiving student loan debt. Plus Roxane and Tressie respond to listener voicemails about what they would do if their student loan debt was forgiven. Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
Out of Little Africa

Out of Little Africa

2021-02-1613:13

Featuring Dr. Ebony Hilton on the inequities revealed by the virus and the vaccine rollout. Hear more of this episode, and the entire season, on Luminary (@hearluminary, and www.luminary.link/slay). Show Notes: Three American Mothers, On the Brink Evicted, by Matthew Desmond Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
The Fat Tax

The Fat Tax

2021-02-0915:53

Sabrina Strings joins Roxane and Tressie to discuss the racist historical roots of fat phobia and what it means for health care today in this special excerpt.. In the full episode Sonya Renee Taylor coaches Roxane and Tressie on how to accept their bodies, and why self-love is a contagious political act. Hear more of this episode, and the entire season, on Luminary (@hearluminary, and www.luminary.link/slay). ●     Show Notes: ○     Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia ○     The Body is Not an Apology Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson and Isoke Samuel are the interns.
How is our relationship to the news changing these days? Plus: singer/songwriter/podcaster Rissi Palmer on why Black contributions to country music have been ignored if not erased. Hear more of this episode and the entire season on Luminary (@hearluminary, and www.luminarypodcasts.com). SHOW NOTES Color Me Country podcast is hosted by Rissi Palmer on Apple Music. More details about Hear to Slay, a Luminary Original Podcast are here: https://luminarypodcasts.com/listen/roxane-gay-and-dr-tressie-mc-millan-cottom/hear-to-slay/b52dbaee-2243-4230-ac20-8dc36ca6a453 CREDITS: Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson is the intern.
He's Gone

He's Gone

2021-01-2204:48

Tressie and Roxane process the inauguration of Biden and Harris. In the extended version of the episode (on Luminary) our hosts chat with writer, and podcaster Rebecca Nagle (This Land) on the view from Indian country in the time of Covid-19.  Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams. Ali McPherson is the intern.
In the Gap

In the Gap

2021-01-1521:38

White supremacy left its fingerprints all over the insurrection at the Capitol. Tressie and Roxane break it down.   Mentions:            Article: Misogyny in the Capitol: Among the insurectionsis a lot of angry men who don’t like women            Book: Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, by Isabel Wilkerson As always, keep the conversation going by following us on Twitter and Instagram at @HearToSlay and with the hashtag #HearToSlay. Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams.
White Nonsense

White Nonsense

2021-01-1521:52

Tressie and Roxane react to the January 6 coup attempt. For more Hear to Slay visit luminary.link/slay As always, keep the conversation going by following us on Twitter and Instagram at @HearToSlay and with the hashtag #HearToSlay. Hear To Slay theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. Curtis Fox is the senior producer. Sarah Wyman and Catherine Fenollosa are the producers. Production help from Lauren Garcia and Kaityln Adams.
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