Hospice Insights: The Law and Beyond

Tune in to Husch Blackwell’s hospice podcast with Meg Pekarske for conversations with industry innovators and fundamentals for navigating hospice law. In our commitment to monitoring updates and fostering learning, each episode delivers essential information clients need for best solutions in this changing healthcare sector.

Let’s Face (to Face) It: Important Changes to Hospice Face-to-Face Attestation Requirements and Other Tidbits from the 2026 Hospice Final Rule

CMS’s FY 2026 hospice final rule introduces significant changes to the face-to-face (F2F) attestation requirements starting October 1, 2025. All in all, the news is positive: while there is a new requirement for the F2F attestation to be signed and dated, the signed and dated F2F clinical note on its own can now serve as the F2F attestation. In this episode, Husch Blackwell attorneys Meg Pekarske and Andrew Brenton share their thoughts on what the updated F2F attestation rules mean for hospice operators and weigh in on other components of the final rule, including CMS’s attempt at housekeeping by clarifying the types of hospice physicians who can certify patients.

09-24
23:20

Where’s the Line: When Does Poor Quality Create False Claims Liability

Substandard quality care is the subject of survey citations and lawsuits, but it has also been used by the Justice Department to support false claim liability. While historically these cases were rare, a recent multi-million dollar settlement puts “worthless services” on the radar. Join Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Jonathan Porter as they explore what the “worthless services” theory of liability is, when it has been used, and whether the recent settlement could signal a resurgence of these types of cases.

08-27
39:36

Hospice Audit Updates: Hospices Fare Well in Federal Court

Increasing audit activity combined with certain decreasingly favorable audit appeal outcomes has resulted in hospices appealing audit results beyond the administrative law judge phase and into federal court. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss the circumstances that gave rise to hospices taking their cases to federal court, how those cases are playing out, and what the future looks like.

08-06
14:00

AI in Action: Exploring How AI Is Helping Hospices Do Things in New Ways

Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske is joined by Dina Yankelewitz, CEO of Vitalis Care, a technology company that is harnessing AI technology to reduce staff burden and allow more time for patient care. Dina shares her vision and passion for the hospice space, discussing how she applied her background in education and learning methods to inform not only what tools to develop but importantly how they work for the end user. Dina and Meg explore what AI is good at as well as its limits and why scheduling optimization, compliance, and reimbursement were the first areas Vitalis tackled. Dina shares her thoughts on what may be next for AI in the home care space, the hurdles she sees to adoption and change, and the opportunities for technology to enhance care, boost staff engagement, and give us all more time to do the work that is most meaningful.Vitalis was built to solve the challenges hospices face every day — from missed units and clunky schedules to mileage fraud, billing gaps, and compliance headaches. Their tools help hospices predict end-of-life with improved accuracy; generate efficient, patient-centered schedules; track every mile with GPS-backed clarity; and simplify compliance with documentation support. To learn more about Vitalis Care visit their website at https://vitaliscare.ai/.

07-16
44:33

Election Inspection: Be Proactive to Avoid Costly Election Statement Denials

In an audit, election statement deficiencies can be costly. Auditors deny all claims covered by the problematic election statement, and those costs can multiply if more than one patient was affected. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske, Bryan Nowicki, and Josi Wergin discuss common reasons auditors give for denying claims based on election statement deficiencies, and how hospices can improve their election statements to try to avoid them.

06-25
23:33

Still Number One: Healthcare Fraud Remains Central in DOJ’s White Collar Enforcement Plan

On May 12, 2025, the Head of the Criminal Division for the Department of Justice (DOJ) issued a memorandum outlining its enforcement priorities. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Jonathan Porter break down what is new and not so new in DOJ’s announcement. They explore the memorandum’s revisions to the Voluntary Self-Disclosure Policy, its treatment on individual liability, and how whistleblowers may be impacted. Importantly, Jonathan shares takeaways on what hospices and their boards should do to stay vigilant.Additional resources:05.12.2025 DOJ Memorandum: Focus, Fairness, and Efficiency in the Fight Against White-Collar Crime

06-04
35:03

Hospice Audit Updates: David Beats Goliath

Hospice audits can have profound financial implications, particularly when the auditors use statistical extrapolation to identify an overpayment amount. The use of extrapolation runs across auditor types, including UPICs and the OIG, and can apply to Medicare and Medicaid. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske, Bryan Nowicki, and Emily Solum discuss recent experiences and successes in dealing with statistical extrapolations, as well as what the future of extrapolation looks like.

05-14
22:02

But Wait: Things to Consider Before Adopting AI Tools In Your Hospice

Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske is joined by colleague Kathleen Snyder, who has extensive experience in digital health and has been busy advising health care providers on how to safely implement artificial intelligence (AI) tools in their organizations. With AI holding so much promise for helping hospices gain efficiencies, reduce staff burdens, and improve the patient experience, we all need to jump into the future—but do so thoughtfully. This episode will help you with just that. We explore critical do’s and don’ts for AI and key infrastructure hospices should have in place when implementing any type of AI solution. Happy listening!

04-23
29:51

One Size Doesn’t Fit All: Figuring Out What is Your Hospice+

For hospices, unprecedented competition, enhanced oversight, and looming payment reform create business obstacles or growth opportunities, depending on your outlook. Your growth strategy shouldn’t be the same as your neighbor’s. Instead of following the herd, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki explore how to begin thinking about what should be on your strategic plan and the importance of bringing your board along with you.Additional resources:Hospice Past v. Present – Considerations

04-02
29:38

Psychedelics and End of Life Care: Understanding the Legal Landscape

There has been a lot of buzz around psychedelics and particularly their potential usefulness in treating existential suffering at the end of life. Husch Blackwell was the first law firm in the country to establish a Psychedelics & Emerging Therapies practice group devoted to helping clinicians, researchers, and investors navigate the complex and difficult legal and regulatory issues involved in developing new therapies in this space.In this episode, host Meg Pekarske is joined by the leaders of Husch Blackwell’s Psychedelics & Emerging Therapies practice group, Kimberly Chew, Karen Luong, and Natasha Sumner, who provide an overview of what psychedelics are, their legal status under federal and state laws, and liability considerations for clinicians. We also discuss the recent amicus brief they filed on behalf of nearly 30 end of life and palliative care providers in a case before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. While there is a lot to digest here, we hope it is a helpful starting point for learning about this complex and evolving area.

03-12
33:34

Controlling the Narrative: A New Tactic for Auditors and ALJs

Hospices that have gone through audits are familiar with certain recurring reasons why auditors deny claims. Two common reasons are the lack of support for a six-month prognosis and the insufficiency of the physician narrative. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss a new twist on these kinds of denials, and how hospices can strengthen their documentation to try to avoid them.

02-19
11:51

Upping the Ante: Will CMS’s Enhanced Oversight Efforts Cause Hospices to Fold?

CMS recently expanded its Provisional Period of Enhanced Oversight, or PPEO, in Arizona, California, Nevada, and Texas, and its enforcement activities nationwide appear more aggressive. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss these enhanced oversight efforts and ways, both structurally and operationally, for hospices to mitigate these risks.

01-29
19:34

A Year in Review: Reflections and Hopes for the Future

It’s our first podcast of 2025 and we wanted to start the year out with some reflections. Join Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki as they each share their biggest surprises and victories of 2024 and what is on their wish list for 2025. We hope you enjoy this episode and let us know what is on your wish list of podcast topics for 2025. Wishing you a happy new year!

01-08
34:59

What a Difference No Deference Makes: Courts No Longer Bow to Administrative Agencies

The United States Supreme Court recently overruled decades-old precedent that favored an administrative agency’s interpretation of ambiguous statutes. This seismic shift in the role of the judiciary will affect every regulated industry, including healthcare and hospice in particular. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss the implications of this decision in the hospice space.

12-04
18:42

Meet the New Laws, Same as the Old Laws: Overpayment Recoupment Update

Hospices that have been audited have to decide how to address any alleged overpayment identified by the auditor, whether through a voluntary repayment, recoupment, or applying for an extended repayment schedule. CMS recently identified updates to the Medicare Financial Management Manual relating to these options. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss those updates which, practically speaking, do not significantly change the existing options.Additional Resources:MM 11808 - Limitation on Recoupment of Medicare OverpaymentsCR 11808 - Updating Chapter 3, Sections 200.5 - 200.8, Limitation on Recoupment; Medicare Overpayments Manual

11-13
22:39

What’s Good and Bad in Hospice Right Now: A Conversation with Greg Grabowski, Partner at Hospice Advisors

In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske is joined by long-time hospice friend and industry guru Greg Grabowski. They turned the microphone on their usually private (but always lively) discussions on what’s going on in the wide world of hospice. To make it especially fun, they each prepared, but did not share prior to recording, their own list of what’s working and not working in hospice right now. Listen in to see how their observations match up.

10-23
50:55

What’s the Latest on UPICs?  Highlights From Recent Audit Activity, Part II

UPIC activity is picking up, and the UPICs are reviving some old tactics. In this episode, Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki continue the discussion on these trends which include extrapolation, Medicaid nursing home room and board payments, patient interviews, and more. Meg and Bryan also describe some handouts they’ve developed to help hospices stay prepared for the inevitable audit.

10-02
19:26

What’s the Latest on UPICs? Highlights From Recent Audit Activity, Part I

UPIC activity is picking up, and the UPICs are reviving some old tactics. In this episode, Husch Blackwell's Meg Pekarske and Bryan Nowicki discuss these trends which include extrapolation, Medicaid nursing home room and board payments, patient interviews, and more. Meg and Bryan also describe some handouts they’ve developed to help hospices stay prepared for the inevitable audit.

09-11
21:00

Stories of Successful Hospice Leadership: The CEO and Chief Medical Officer Relationship

A strong and engaged Chief Medical Officer (CMO) may be a hospice CEO’s most important asset. But what does a successful CEO/CMO relationship look like and how must it evolve to meet today’s challenges? In this episode we get to find out, as Husch Blackwell’s Meg Pekarske is joined by HopeHealth CEO Diana Franchitto and Dr. Edward Martin, CMO, whose trusted relationship has been instrumental to the organization’s success and clinical expansion. Whether it be forging new community partnerships or advocating for patients, Diana and Ed bring a wonderful compliment of strengths to advancing end-of-life care in their community. Listen in…be inspired!

08-21
38:06

A Rise in Medicare Deactivations: Tips for Avoiding This Financial Pain

Until recently, deactivation of a hospice’s Medicare provider number seemed like an action reserved for egregious conduct. But with law changes and an enhanced focus on enrollment, good hospices have found themselves facing a stop in their Medicare payments. Listen in as Husch Blackwell’s Adam Royal and Meg Pekarske discuss what has led to recent deactivations and how hospices can avoid the same fate.

07-31
26:06

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