How to Be Fine

How do I make or maintain friendships across political divides? Should I even try? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Celeste Headlee, author of “We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations That Matter” and “Speaking of Race: Why We Need to Talk About Race-and How to Do It Effectively.” We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen read some of the many stories you’ve shared about the topics we’ve recently covered on the show. We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Kat Vellos’s tips for turning acquaintances into friends.  We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Kristen and Jolenta live by The Total Money Makeover, by Dave Ramsey. To hear the entire episode and get lots of other great bonus content, including a live monthly book club with Kristen and Jolenta, join patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How can we turn that person we barely know - but like - into a real friend? And how can we deepen the friendships we already have? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Kat Vellos, author of “We Should Get Together: The Secret to Cultivating Better Friendships."  We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Dr. Jeffrey Hall’s tips for using social media to feel less alone. We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Media - and social media in particular - is often pointed to as a culprit in our loneliness. Why is this? And are there ways to better harness the power of social media to feel less alone? Kristen and Jolenta get insights from Dr. Jeffrey Hall, author of Relating Through Technology. We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private Facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Laura Tremaine’s tips for building and nurturing their friend councils.  We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Kristen and Jolenta live by The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen Covey. To hear the entire episode and get lots of other great bonus content, including a live monthly book club with Kristen and Jolenta, join patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Society often celebrates the BFF, the squad, or the busload of besties. But Laura Tremaine has a different take. She believes our lives are richer when we have a variety of unique friends to love and lean on - even if those friends never meet each other. She shares her philosophy with Jolenta and Kristen, and in her book, The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs.  We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen read some of the many stories you’ve shared about the topics we’ve recently covered on the show We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Dr. Jeremy Nobel’s tips for enjoying their own company.  We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Kristen and Jolenta wrap up their 12-week journey of living by Julia Cameron's bestseller The Artist's Way. Along the way, Jolenta embarks on some home repairs and Kristen makes herself over for a charitable gala. To hear the entire episode and get lots of other great bonus content, including a live monthly book club with Kristen and Jolenta, join patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

According to Dr. Jeremy Nobel, author of Project Unlonely, "at its core, a true sense of loneliness results from a disconnection to the self." But what does he mean by disconnection? What causes this kind of disconnection? And steps can we take to develop a good relationship with ourselves? Dr. Nobel stops by to share his findings.  We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook     Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Liz Craft and Sarah Fain’s tips for working together as friends.  We want to hear from you! Please share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private Facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Kristen and Jolenta continue their 12-week journey of living by Julia Cameron's bestseller The Artist's Way. Along the way, Jolenta acknowledges her fears and Kristen begins the feel the book is actually working. To hear the entire episode and get lots of other great bonus content, including a live monthly book club with Kristen and Jolenta, join patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When is it a good idea to mix friendship and work? What are the benefits and drawbacks of working with a friend? And what can we do to ensure both the work and the friendship succeed when the two are mixed? Liz Craft and Sarah Fain, BFFs and business partners, share their wisdom. We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Chelsea Devantez’s tips for considering and coping with BFF breakups. We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private Facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Kristen and Jolenta continue their 12-week journey of living by Julia Cameron's bestseller The Artist's Way. Along the way, Jolenta acknowledges her jealousies and Kristen hits the kitchen. To hear the entire episode and get lots of other great bonus content, including a live monthly book club with Kristen and Jolenta, join patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Breaking up with friends is an oft-experienced but rarely talked about topic. How can we assess whether certain friendships are no longer healthy? And when is a breakup warranted? Chelsea Devantez, author of “I shouldn’t be telling you this, but I am anyway,” shares her thoughts.  We want to hear from you! Please share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private Facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    And join our Patreon Community to get access to live monthly book clubs with Kristen and Jolenta, ad-free exclusive episodes of By The Book, minisodes of us talking about what we’re reading, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve ever lived by, tips from our experts, advice, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices