Recorded live at the Aotearoa AI Summit 2026 in Wellington, this episode brings together five voices with decades of grounded expertise and thinking past the hype cycle: data sovereignty, governance, physics, defence, venture.In this episode, we hear from:Peter-Lucas Jones â Chief Executive Officer, Te Hiku Media Peter-Lucas leads Te Hiku Media's iwi-led language technology work, speaking to MÄori data sovereignty and the imperative to keep people â not systems â at the centre of AI. Dr Mahsa McCauley â AUT; outgoing Chair, AI Forum NZ; UNESCO NZ Commissioner Recorded the day after handing over the AI Forum NZ chair at the end of her maximum six-year term, Mahsa reflects on how far the national conversation has come â from speculative, sci-fi framing to genuine focus on ethics, responsible AI and governance.David Steele â Director, Texas, Plug and Play Tech Center A former decade-long Texas high school football coach turned venture scout, David now oversees Plug and Play's Texas offices after building its global sports-tech vertical. He draws a direct line between sport and startups: both reward agility, direct feedback and comfort with risk.Hema Sridhar â Deputy Director, Koi TĆ«: The Centre for Informed Futures A physicist by training and a former defence chief advisor, Hema brings that dual lens to AI policy. Koi TĆ« grew out of a five-year University of Auckland incubation into an independent charitable trust valued for being a neutral voice on hard questions.Aotearoa AI Summit website: https://www.aotearoaai.nz/Follow us on Instagram: @humaninthelooppodcastFind us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/116049478/admin/dashboard/Alaina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alaina-luxmoore/Hamish: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hafriedlander/Danu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danuabey/Follow us on Instagram: @humaninthelooppodcastFind us on LinkedIn:Alaina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alaina-luxmoore/Hamish: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hafriedlander/Danu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danuabey/Sign up to The RUSH newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hmARzLEmail
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