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So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.

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What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy! Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college, church, and summer camp ministries. Andy has degrees in Christian theology ...
In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth. Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.com Buy Nate...
What’s next for Husband Material? In this episode, you’ll hear the exciting new vision for how we want to help the next generation of young men and couples change their brains, heal their hearts, and save their relationships. Here’s how you can be part of it: Pray: husbandmaterial.com/prayGive: husbandmaterial.com/giveSupport the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: T...
How can technology help you connect, heal, and outgrow porn? In this episode, Chandler Rogers tells his story of finding freedom through connection with others (even online) and shares what he has learned from overseeing hundreds of online groups. You'll find out what you're missing out on if you track your sobriety without tracking your recovery—and what healthy, shame-free accountability looks like. Chandler Rogers is the CEO and co-founder of Relay, a group-based program to break free from...
What exactly is arousal? Is it more than just sexual? In this episode, you'll learn the four types of arousal (uppers, downers, all-arounders, and deprivation) and how we use addiction to avoid intimacy ("into messy"). Along the way, you'll also find out why recovery is not a "don't touch your penis" program and how the skill of "tension holding" can transform your relationships. Great conversation! Chris Chandler (LMHC, LPCC, EMDR, CSAT-S) is a licensed therapist, coach, and Clinical Advisor...
How do you see yourself? Do you ever feel like a villain, like everything is your fault? Do you ever feel like a victim, overwhelmed and powerless to change your life? Do you ever feel like a hero, as if you have to succeed because the whole world is depending on you? Today, we’re talking about how to see yourself accurately and understand yourself better through three lenses: your villain story, your victim story, and your hero story. These categories are inspired by “The Karpman Drama Trian...
In this episode, Doug and Drew explain their powerful, unique approach to psychodrama: DIRECT. You'll learn how this powerful modality can help you experience deeper healing and freedom from porn. D.I.R.E.C.T. = Dynamic, Intuitive, Redemptive, Embodied, Communal Transformation. Come experience D.I.R.E.C.T. at a Husband Material Healing Weekend! See all upcoming healing weekends and retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreat January Healing Weekend in Florida: 4 spots left. Apply here. Marc...
Why do adult men need sex education? What sexual changes do men's bodies go through as we get older? In this episode, Dr. Doug Carpenter explains what men need to know about low testosterone, urinary flow, sperm production, and more. You'll learn about the importance of prostate exams, the truth about penis size, the difference between sex in porn vs. sex in marriage, and other common misconceptions men have about sex. Join us for sex education in person at the next Husband Material Retreat! ...
When you're triggered or tempted to watch porn, you cannot not regulate. What you can do is choose how you will regulate. In this episode, you'll learn ten powerful grounding techniques to regulate your brain and body without porn: Deep Breathing: Diaphragmatic (image)Power Breathing: Wim Hof Method (video)External Observation: 5-4-3-2-1 (image)Internal Observation: How We Feel (app)Ten Befriending Questions (PDF)Imagination: Visualize your inner worldCreativity: Be a creator, not a consumerM...
How does sex trafficking affect boys and men (not just girls and women) and what does healing look like? Hear Mike Chapman's incredible story. This episode is a taken from Mike's recent presentation, "Family-Controlled Sex Trafficking of Young Boys: One Survivor's Healing Journey" at the International Human Trafficking & Social Justice Conference. Mike Chapman is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and family-controlled sex trafficking, and a survivor of sexual assault by clergy as a you...
How does living in a drugified world affect our brains, and what can we about it? Renowned psychiatrist Anna Lembke vulnerably shares her own story of addiction to romance novels and erotica, how digital media hijacks our brains, and what freedom practically looks like. Along the way, you'll learn the meaning of dopamine fasting, self-binding strategies, and prosocial shame. Take notes! Dr. Anna Lembke is professor of psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine and chief of the Stanf...
Have you ever wondered if certain sexual behaviors are okay? How do you decide what to believe and how to behave? In this episode, you'll learn 3 foundational principles of sexual ethics: integrity, intimacy, and impact. Looking for a safe place to talk about sensitive topics? Ask your questions in the Husband Material Community! Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Ste...
Why do we sexualize our emotions, and how can we process our emotions without sexualizing them? In this episode, Jonathan Hernandez answers these questions in English. Check out the Spanish version of this episode here. Jonathan Hernandez is a newly Certified Husband Material Coach with over a year of experience as a Certified Connection Codes Coach. He completed three years at Bethel’s School of Supernatural Ministry and is passionate about helping couples build deeper connection and guiding...
¿Por qué sexualizamos nuestras emociones y cómo podemos procesarlas sin sexualizarlas? Jonathan Hernández responde a estas preguntas en el primer episodio de Husband Material en Español. Aquí tienes la versión en inglés: https://podcast.husbandmaterial.com/713910/episodes/17963054-how-to-process-sexualized-emotions-with-jonathan-hernandez Jonathan Hernández es nuevo coach de Husband Material. Cuenta con más de un año de experiencia como coach certificado de Connection Codes. Estudió tres años...
What is connection? What causes disconnection? How can we reconnect? Dr. Glenn and Phyllis Hill explain the core components of relational connection—especially for couples. Dr. Glenn and Phyllis Hill are the founders of Connection Codes, a life-changing framework that has helped thousands of couples and families around the world experience deeper intimacy, safety, and joy. Married for over four decades, Glenn and Phyllis know firsthand what it’s like to feel disconnected and stuck in painful ...
Have you ever felt like you're too much? In Mark 6:30-56, we see that nothing and no one is too much for Jesus. This sermon was originally preached on Sunday, September 7, 2025 at the Husband Material Retreat in Colorado. Learn more about our 2026 retreats here. Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn Step 4: Try the ...
How can physical fitness help you find lasting freedom from porn? Frank Rich explains how rebuilding your body accelerates recovery—especially rebuilding your beliefs about yourself. Along the way, you'll learn the importance of gut health and a simple plan you can use to start training today. Frank Rich is a renowned bodybuilder, entrepreneur, men’s health coach, and host of The Super Human Life Podcast. After struggling for years with addiction, depression, and anxiety, Frank rebuilt his ...
Male sexually betrayed partners are often unseen, overlooked, and underresourced. Hear Ben Wilson's story of being the betrayed and the betrayer in his marriage. Ben is a Licensed Professional Counselor with 25+ years of experience. He is trained in EMDR for trauma and Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) for couple’s counseling. Ben co-authored Betrayed and Betrayer: Rescuing Your Marriage After The Affair out of his own broken and restored marriage. Learn more about intensive counselin...
If you want lasting freedom from porn, consider reading one of these 10 books: Altogether You: Experiencing Personal and Spiritual Transformation with Internal Family Systems Therapy, by Jenna RiemersmaGoing Deeper: How The Inner Child Impacts Your Sexual Addiction, by Eddie CapparucciIntimate Deception: Healing the Wounds of Sexual Betrayal, by Sheri KefferNo Stones: Women Redeemed from Sexual Addiction, by Marnie FerreeOutgrow Porn: Find Lasting Freedom Without Fighting an Exhausting ...
Dr. Eddie Capparucci interviews Drew Boa about his new book, Outgrow Porn: Find Lasting Freedom Without Fighting an Exhausting Battle—A Man's Guide to Healing. You'll learn the importance of understanding sexual fantasies, processing emotions, "surfing" sexual urges, and healing the inner child. Outgrow Porn is available now! Buy the book directly from Drew at outgrowporn.comBuy the book on Amazon with Drew's affiliate link at amzn.to/4lPkpEVBuy the Outgrow Porn Workbook at outgrowpornw...
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Eric E

this is great content. I have listened to it 2x and will again. I wish I had this 2.5 years ago when I told my wife about my porn past. I'm going g to share this with my group.

Mar 14th
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