I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

We’re closing out our 10-part Wellness Series with a conversation that couldn’t feel more fitting. Today’s guest is my friend Brad Stulberg, who returns to the podcast to talk about his new book, The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World. I read this book over the past couple of months and finished it on the plane heading to a busy week of interviews at the running event, and I genuinely felt more grounded and prepared because of it. Brad has been on the show many times, and I always leave our conversations with tangible takeaways for how to live and lead better. He’s the author of The Practice of Groundedness, Master of Change, Peak Performance, and The Passion Paradox, and he brings such a thoughtful, practical lens to ambition, growth, and fulfillment. In this episode, we talk about caring deeply, the inevitability of failure, and why caring, even when it opens us up to heartbreak, is still worth it. We also touch on goal setting as we head into a new year and how to think about excellence in a way that’s sustainable and meaningful. I hope you love this conversation as much as I did and that it leaves you feeling encouraged as we wrap up this series. Check out Brad’s work and pre order his newest book at BradStulberg.com What we talked about: December as a natural season for reflection, and the tension of “ramping down” while launching something big The Way of Excellence and how excellence can be a mindset you practice, not just an outcome you achieve “Brave New World” as a fear-to-curiosity reframe for big moments (races, interviews, parenting, hard lifts) Curiosity vs fear, and why curiosity helps you perform better (and feel better) under pressure Caring deeply as the cost of stepping into the arena, and why “too cool to care” is actually insecurity Excellence as heartfelt (not robotic) and a critique of “pseudo excellence” culture and optimization obsession Cold plunges and “hacks”: what’s legit, what’s hype, and when hard things are useful vs unnecessary Identity and the “house with rooms” metaphor (runner, parent, creative, partner) so one setback doesn’t collapse your whole sense of self Reading vs short-form video for attention, cognition, and emotional health, plus habits that support focus New Year goals: why resolutions fail, and how values-based goal setting helps you climb the right mountain Sponsors: Eternal This entire Wellness Series has been made possible by Eternal, a science-backed preventative health company for people who take their health and training seriously. Eternal offers comprehensive, integrated primary care, advanced testing, and personalized health planning. They go beyond biomarkers to provide real answers, proactive care, and support for athletes and active humans alike. Learn more and become a member at https://eternal.co. Lagoon Sleep If you’re ready to upgrade your sleep, Lagoon pillows are truly a game changer. Their customizable pillows are designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay cool, and wake up without neck or shoulder pain. You can adjust the fill to make it perfect for you. Save 15% by going to https://lagoonsleep.com/lindsey and using the code LINDSEY at checkout. Lindsey Hein Coaching & Training Plans I’ve been coaching runners since 2013 and currently have space for a few one-on-one athletes. If you’re training for your first half or marathon, chasing a PR, or aiming to qualify for Boston, I take a holistic, week-by-week approach to coaching. I also offer half marathon and marathon training plans for beginner through advanced runners, designed with conservative mileage progression and simple strength and mobility work. Visit https://lindseyhein.com and use the code DECEMBER2025 to get $10 off training plans through the end of the year. If you’re interested in one-on-one coaching, email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com. Brad’s new book, The Way of Excellence, is linked here. Thanks so much for being here and for supporting the Wellness Series.

I cannot tell you how special this episode feels to me. Laura Galeazzo — who longtime listeners will remember as the very first guest I ever interviewed back in 2016 — is back on the show, and catching up with her brought everything full circle. When I launched this podcast, I was a young mom with two little kids, newly pregnant with my third, dreaming about building something of my own. Laura said yes to being my very first interview when all I had was a microphone, a simple idea, and a whole lot of belief. Since then, she’s lived so much life: she’s had two babies, become a real estate agent, coached athletes, and continued to chase big goals with the same quiet determination that made her story so compelling in the first place. She’s now a 2:49 marathoner and recently ran a huge half marathon PR, breaking through years of self-doubt to rediscover her confidence. I’ve watched her navigate seasons of grit, seasons without PRs, and seasons where she just kept showing up for herself — and seeing her run her strongest races yet is incredibly inspiring. It feels so right to have her back on the show all these years later, still getting after it and still reminding us what’s possible when you keep going. Support our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow

For this episode in our wellness series, I’m joined by sports dietitian and marathoner Meghann Featherstun of Featherstone Nutrition. I had just gotten home from a whirlwind week at The Running Event and CIM, where I hosted conversations with Gabby Thomas (sponsored by Amazfit) and a Road to the Trials panel, and I was excited to sit down for a fresh, in-depth chat with Meghann. We debrief her time at TRE, where there were over 50 nutrition brands on display, and dig into what’s actually new and useful in sports fueling right now. We talk about higher-carb products, evolving electrolyte and caffeine trends, and how to think about choosing between all the options on the market. From there, we dive into some big wellness topics like nicotine pouches, GLP-1 medications, midlife weight changes, and the pressure runners feel around body image. Meghann shares both her clinical and personal perspective on when these tools can be life-changing for health and when they become a vanity shortcut. We also cover how to talk about food and bodies with our kids, and then wrap up with practical advice for recovering from a fall marathon, including fueling in the days after your race, adjusting nutrition when mileage drops, and what to make of “fiber maxing.” Enjoy my conversation with Meghann! Support Our Sponsors: Eternal: Go to eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Noogs: Use code “another15” for 15% off your first order. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com.

In this episode, I sat down with Olympic gold medalist Gabby Thomas while I was in San Antonio for The Running Event, and it was such a fun, inspiring conversation. Gabby had an incredible 2024 season where she won gold in the 200 meters in Paris and was part of the gold medal 4×100 and 4×400 teams. She runs for New Balance, studied neurobiology at Harvard, and went on to earn her master’s in public health, so we talk about how her academic background shapes the way she thinks about performance, health, and life beyond the track. We get into what it actually felt like to win that individual gold, how she handled the pressure of the Olympic Games, what she’s learning in this phase of her career, and what she’s dreaming about as she looks toward LA 2028. We also chat about her partnership with Amazfit, how she uses their watch in training and racing, and why this season has been so meaningful to her both on and off the track. Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com.

Today I am talking with two-time Olympian and Saucony athlete Molly Huddle, who just ran the Every Woman’s Marathon six months postpartum with her second baby. Molly used the race as a long training run and shares what it felt like to approach the marathon in a more relaxed, flexible way than she has in the past while still respecting how hard 26.2 miles feels at any pace. We get into how life looks right now with two young daughters, how she and her husband are tag-teaming work and parenting, and what it has been like to train and race while breastfeeding. Molly explains why she chose this marathon as a fundraising opportunity for For All Mothers+, how she approached the effort on the day, and what she learned about her current fitness and recovery. Molly also talks about where she is with professional running at age 41, her hope to qualify for another Olympic Marathon Trials, and what it means to her to compete in a “part-time” or “semi-retired” way while she leans into coaching, writing, and parenting. We talk about identity shifts in motherhood, the invisible work that goes into raising kids, and how to stay engaged with the sport even when the goals and timelines look different than they did in your twenties. Finally, Molly shares more about the new pregnancy and postpartum running book she is co-writing, the research she is excited about, and her thoughts on aging, body image, and what it really means to let running “light you up,” whatever season of life you are in. Topics Discussed: Molly’s decision to run the Every Woman’s Marathon six months postpartum Using a marathon as a long training run instead of an all-out effort Balancing breastfeeding, travel, and race-day logistics with a baby and a toddler Fundraising and partnering with For All Mothers+ at the race How the Every Woman’s Marathon creates an unintimidating, women-centered race experience Postpartum training, injury history, and choosing a more cautious path back Shifting identity from full-time pro runner to part-time competitor, coach, and writer Motherhood, invisible labor, and how priorities around work and running change Body image, aging, and pressure around appearance and performance The new pregnancy and postpartum running book and current women’s health research Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Tailwind Nutrition — Complete energy, electrolytes, hydration; light taste, easy on the gut. Their recovery mix has 20g protein and the single-serve sticks make refueling simple. Code: another20 at tailwindnutrition.com for 20% off. Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off.

Today’s episode comes to you from my time at the Allianz Richmond Marathon weekend. This was my third year serving as race emcee in Richmond, and once again I left feeling deeply moved by the stories, resilience, and joy I witnessed at the finish line. I watched first-time marathoners cross with disbelief in their eyes, couples holding hands as they finished together, runners pushing through pain, and others celebrating huge personal victories. There is a kind of gratitude at the end of a marathon that you just cannot replicate anywhere else, and Richmond always reminds me why I love this experience so much. Today’s conversation is a special live recording from that weekend, where I sat down with Sophie King and Trevor Spencer. Trevor is one of the co-hosts of the Marathon Training Academy podcast, and Sophie King is a professional runner based in Richmond with an incredibly compelling story. Sophie made her marathon debut right here in Richmond in 2021 and later ran a 2:34 at CIM in 2023. She was on track for big things before suffering a torn plantar fascia that ultimately kept her from competing at the Olympic Trials, but what struck me most about this conversation is her perspective, her honesty, and her belief that her best years are still ahead of her. Sophie comes from a swimming background and only transitioned fully to running in recent years, which makes her rise in the sport even more impressive. She speaks openly about setbacks, rebuilding confidence after injury, learning to trust her body again, and continuing to chase big goals despite the detours. There is a calm strength to the way she talks about her journey, and I loved hearing her articulate not only her ambitions but her deep gratitude for the process as well. This was one of those conversations that felt too meaningful not to share publicly. Her story, her mindset, and her vulnerability deserve to be heard, and I’m so excited for you to listen. Support our Sponsors: Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.

Hey friends, welcome to I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein. If you ran the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, Half Marathon, or 5K this past weekend, congratulations. It was incredible to see so many familiar faces out there, and it was an honor to be the race emcee again this year. Between the energy at the start and the emotion at the finish line, this race really showed up — including a huge three-minute drop in the men’s marathon course record and a long list of Olympic Trials qualifiers. I wanted to break it all down with two people who experienced the weekend right alongside me. My friend Ally Brettnacher is here — she’s the host of Finish Lines & Milestones, part of the Sandyboy Productions network, and she always brings such a fun perspective from the everyday runner community. Emily Infeld also joins us. She was the guest of honor at Monumental this year — she helped start the race, she handed out medals at the finish line, she sat down for an interview at the expo, and she joined me for our live podcast at the post-race celebration. Emily barely needs an introduction, but here’s a quick one: she’s an Olympian, a US national champion, a five-time track world finalist, and she won the 10,000m national title this summer after ten years filled with surgeries, setbacks, comebacks, and breakthroughs. She’s sponsored by Brooks Running. Brooks partnered with us through Athletic Annex for the weekend, which was really special since Emily is a Brooks athlete. My relationship with Athletic Annex goes back more than a decade — I helped them with social media and events long before I started hosting live podcasts, and they’ve supported every single event I’ve brought to Indianapolis since. Every time I’m back home for a shakeout run, a live show, or anything related to the Monumental, they’re right there with me. This year we hosted our biggest post-race party yet, and I’ll be honest — I was nervous nobody would buy tickets. I wanted it to be an elevated event, with great food, drinks, a killer goodie bag, and a chance for everyone to actually celebrate their race. We ended up selling out and even added extra tickets at the door. One of the biggest hits was the Indy poster Ally designed — inspired by iconic race posters at major marathons — where everyone could stencil in their finishing time. It was so fun watching people make their own little Monumental keepsake. Our vision is to make this weekend feel a little more like the big-city marathon experience: a Friday shakeout run, community events, and a post-race celebration every year moving forward. One thing I’m especially proud of is that we were able to donate $500 from the event back to the Monumental Kids Movement — a school-based running and wellness program. Beyond Monumental does such meaningful work with kids year after year, and I’m glad we could give back to that mission. Huge thanks to everyone who came to the race, the expo, the live show, and the party — it meant so much. If you enjoyed this episode or were part of the weekend, a quick rating and review goes a long way. And if you’re already planning on Monumental 2026 — and I know some of you type-A runners are — make sure you’re in town for the Friday shakeout and the post-race party. We’re already excited for next year. Sponsors of the live show: Athletic AnnexBrooks RunningFoot LevelersPrevinexBottleworks HotelRachel Michelle RunningStretchLabTwentySixDiamond NoogsAthlete Bouquets (owned by Ally Brettnacher)

Today I’m joined by Annie Frisbie, who just finished fifth at the 2025 New York City Marathon in 2:24:12 — the second-fastest American performance ever on that course. Annie has quickly become one of the most consistent and exciting marathoners in the U.S., and what I love most about her story is how steady, grounded, and quietly fierce she is. She debuted in New York back in 2021 running 2:26:18 — the fourth-fastest debut by an American woman on that course — and since then she’s continued to chip away, stacking strong, confident races while training with Minnesota Distance Elite. Annie grew up in Wisconsin, ran at Iowa State where she was an All-American in cross country, and now runs professionally for Puma. In this conversation, we break down her NYC race from the inside, including the moments she almost lost confidence, how she’s learning to trust positive self-talk, and what she’s excited about for 2026 and beyond. Annie is thoughtful, humble, and incredibly fun to root for — you’re going to feel so inspired hearing about her process, her mindset, and the way she’s growing into this event. I loved catching up with her so much. Topics we cover NYC race plan, surges, and key course sections Passing Sifan Hassan late and protecting position Solo miles, crowd energy, and managing pain honestly Fueling: UCAN gels (alternating caffeine) and electrolytes Training consistency, hamstring care, and support team Mindset: visualization, mantras, and choosing helpful thoughts Tactical Majors vs time trial courses Post-race recovery, winter training, and 2026 goals Media and links mentioned Book: Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor Music: Hans Zimmer; Ramin Djawadi soundtracks; Florence and the Machine (new album) Podcasts: Amy Poehler’s show; The Telepathy Tapes Team/Sponsor: Minnesota Distance Elite; Puma Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and gummies for a relaxed unwind without alcohol. Flavors like Blueberry Breeze, Raspberry Limeade, Salted Watermelon, and Peach Iced Tea. cornbreadhemp.com/another and use code: ANOTHER for 30% off. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow

We are back with another Wellness One episode, and today I’m joined by our favorite running sports psychologist, Emily Saul. I’ve admired Emily’s work for years, and several athletes I coach have worked with her and seen real shifts in how they handle racing, training, and life. Emily shares how she came to sports psychology through rowing, coaching, November Project, and counseling, and why she views movement as both classroom and laboratory. We dig into the “helpful vs. unhelpful” frame, flipping perfectionism into process, and building a mental race plan that breaks a marathon into truly manageable chunks. Emily walks through practical tools for race day and how to define success with process and experience goals so your body can do what it is trained to do. I think you’ll feel your nervous system settle a bit just listening, and leave with a plan you can use at whatever race is next on your calendar. Topics discussed: • Emily’s path to sports psychology and why movement is a vehicle for growth• The “helpful vs. unhelpful” reframe for plans, workouts, and expectations• Process goals and experience goals that support performance• Building a mental race plan by chunking time, course sections, and fuel windows• What to do when discomfort shows up early and how to choose your next best action• Keeping attention in the present and letting completed chunks count as wins• Why success is self-defined and how to let running serve your life Media recommended: • Mindfulness by Ellen Langer• The Mindful Body by Ellen Langer• Emily’s site: esaulmovement.com Support Our Sponsors: Eternal Go to eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! DONNA Marathon Weekend (Jacksonville, FL | Jan 30–Feb 1) — Funds breast cancer research and supports patients. I’ll be there! breastcancermarathon.com — code: LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Foot Levelers — Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact.

I’m so thrilled to introduce Carolyn Coffin to the SandyBoy Productions podcast network. Carolyn hosts the Inspired Soles podcast and has been telling incredible stories in the running world since 2020. She’s based in Canada, and we get into how much her show highlights Canadian athletes, why those stories matter, and the crossover between the U.S. and Canadian running scenes. Carolyn shares her background as a physiotherapist, how she shifted into health coaching and eventually running coaching, and how she found her own love for the sport later in life. We talk through her long journey with the marathon — the near misses, the tough races, the canceled races, the heat DNFs — and the fire she still has at age 48 to run her fastest marathon yet. She also talks about family life, her husband’s running, raising teenagers, and what her coaching roster looks like today. This is a rich conversation about longevity, learning, curiosity, and chasing big goals no matter your age. Topics discussed: Welcoming Inspired Soles to the network Why Canadian representation in running media matters Carolyn’s shifts from physio to health coach to running coach The early running memories that shaped her beliefs Her breakthrough years and chasing sub-3:20 Chicago 2020 getting canceled and the virtual marathon Heat cancellations, injuries, GI issues, and all the almost-PRs Training for the Marathon Project Running with her husband and pacing each other How her kids relate to running and movement Coaching everyday runners and creating community Future ideas around philanthropy and supporting women chasing big goals What inspires her right now Media recommended: Running the Dream Don’t Tell Me You’re Afraid Rory Linkletter’s YouTube channel Rory and Jill Linkletter on Inspired Soles Podcast (EP 241) Ben Flanagan on the Inspired Soles Podcast (EP 261) Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and gummies for a relaxed unwind without alcohol. Flavors like Blueberry Breeze, Raspberry Limeade, Salted Watermelon, and Peach Iced Tea. cornbreadhemp.com/another and use code: ANOTHER for 30% off. Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line! CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.

This week is Indy Monumental and I am buzzing. I’ll be the race emcee at the CNO Financial Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, and Jeff Cunningham joins me on this episode to get you ready and excited. Jeff coaches Bat City Track Club in Austin, runs Cunningham Running, and hosts the Consistently Good podcast for BPN. He’s bringing a big crew to Indy and knows this course inside and out. We walk through the course from start to finish, dial in race-week mindset and pacing, and talk about how to stay steady when the race gets quiet. I also share all the weekend details: Friday shakeout, expo panels, and our post-race celebration at Bottleworks with special guest Emily Infeld. If you’re racing the 5K, half, or full, I’ll see you at the start and the finish. Hugs are absolutely welcome. Weekend details Friday, Nov 7 – 9:00 a.m. Shakeout run at Bottleworks Hotel with Brooks Running and Athletic Annex. Meet out front. Snacks after. Friday, Nov 7 – Expo Elite Athlete Panel at 3:30 p.m. and a 4:30 p.m. fireside chat with Emily Infeld. Saturday, Nov 8 – 4:30–6:30 p.m. Post-race party at Bottleworks Hotel. I’ll record a 30-minute chat with Emily from 5:00–5:30. Tickets via EventBrite HERE. Use code lindsey10 for $10 off. Topics we discussed: Why Indy Monumental is a PR-ready course How to pace the first 10K and avoid early mistakes Where the course gets quiet and how to stay locked in Marathon and half marathon strategy for Indy Mindset cues for the last 10K Fueling basics and respecting the distance Celebrating every finish line Media Recommended: Books Once Around Is Enough — memoir by legendary 400m coach Clyde Hart Support our Sponsors: Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and use LINDSEY for 15% off. Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line!

Rory Linkletter is back on the podcast and he is truly one of the most entertaining, insightful people to talk running with. He just ran a huge PR of 2:06:49 at the Chicago Marathon, and we get into everything that went into that performance — the big swing for the Canadian record, what it felt like to put himself in the race early, and how he managed the moment he realized he’d be running the last 12 miles alone. He breaks down the pace groups, the chaos of early race dynamics, and the confidence that comes from having 13 marathons worth of experience to lean on. We also talk about what it means to actually race a marathon versus just running one — how fueling, composure, and mindset have evolved for him, and why he’s shifting his focus away from chasing a specific time and toward racing with courage at the front of major marathons. Rory shares openly about coaching transitions, what he learned from Boston, how he’s thinking about LA 2028, and how he balances training with being a dad of two. It’s a fun, honest conversation with someone who isn’t afraid to say big goals out loud and back them up with the work. Topics we Discussed: Chicago PR and the Canadian record chase From running marathons to racing them Fueling practice on every long run Coaching with Ryan Hall to Jon Green Composure during the race Why he’s shelving the record goal Racing the group vs. running your own race Building toward LA 2028 Family travel and dad life Sports fandom and downtime Books and podcasts he’s into Media and Mentions: Books: Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey Ernest Shackleton and Endurance (explorer and book referenced) Matthew McConaughey’s new book Rory referenced: Poems and Prayers Podcasts Rory listens to: Pardon My Take The Bill Simmons Podcast The Ryen Russillo Show Sports fandom: Baltimore Ravens, Denver Nuggets, Calgary Flames, Boston Red Sox Follow us! Follow Rory: @rory_linkletter on Instagram. Follow Lindsey: @lindseyhein626 and find more shows at sandyboyproductions.com. Got a milestone or story for Indy? DM @lindseyhein626 or email lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com so she can give you a shout on race day. SponsorsTailwind Nutrition — Complete energy, electrolytes, hydration; light taste, easy on the gut. Their recovery mix has 20g protein and the single-serve sticks make refueling simple. Code: another20 at tailwindnutrition.com for 20% off.Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and gummies for a relaxed unwind without alcohol. Flavors like Blueberry Breeze, Raspberry Limeade, Salted Watermelon, and Peach Iced Tea. cornbreadhemp.com/another and use code: ANOTHER for 30% off. Join me at my live show! Bring your medals, grab snacks and swag from Athletic Annex, Brooks Running, and more. Use code LINDSEY10 for $10 off tickets. Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line!

In this episode, I chat with Aubrey Frentheway, a rising American marathoner who finished 12th overall and 4th American at the 2024 Chicago Marathon, running 2:27. Aubrey also ran 2:27 earlier this year at Grandma’s Marathon, marking an impressive progression since her debut marathon last year in Chicago (2:35). She runs for Saucony, trains with Ed Eyestone’s group in Utah alongside athletes like Keira D’Amato, Emily Venters, and Makenna Myler, and teaches eighth-grade math part-time while balancing her professional running career. Aubrey and I talk about what it’s like to jump to the marathon at such a young age, her transition from BYU and Coach Diljeet Taylor to training with Ed Eyestone’s team, and how she’s learned to master fueling after some hard lessons from her first marathon. She shares openly about her hamstring injury, her mindset through setbacks, and how she’s learning to love the process—especially the marathon training itself. We also chat about her classroom life, her dog (who’s very impatient during her recovery!), her husband’s support while he’s in PT school, and her plans for a spring marathon once she’s healthy again. This is such an honest, down-to-earth conversation with an athlete who’s finding her rhythm and confidence in the professional world while keeping perspective and joy in the process. Topics Discussed Aubrey’s progression from 2:35 to 2:27 in the marathon Joining Ed Eyestone’s training group and the team’s growing energy Balancing running with teaching middle school math Managing a hamstring injury and recovery process The highs and lows of marathon racing and mental waves mid-race Fueling lessons and working with a sports dietitian Transitioning from BYU and Coach Diljeet Taylor to professional training Learning from mentorship and teammates like Keira D’Amato and Courtney Frerichs Her love for marathon training and what’s next on her race calendar Non-running life: family, travel, and her dog Media Recommended Book: Don’t Call It a Comeback by Keira D’Amato Show: Chad Powers (Hulu) Support our Sponsors: Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line! Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Foot Levelers — Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact.

In this episode of I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein, Lindsey sits down with Jamie Greenawalt, President of Foot Levelers, for a conversation about leadership, goal setting, and building a wellness-centered life. Jamie is a third-generation leader in the company, a mom of two, and someone whose passion for improving people’s lives through chiropractic care shines through in everything she does. I first met Jamie at the Blue Ridge Marathon—where Foot Levelers is the title sponsor—and quickly realized her story and expertise would resonate with my listeners. Jamie shares what it’s like running a multigenerational business, how Foot Levelers orthotics are designed to support all three arches of the foot for optimal stability, and why their custom approach sets them apart in the wellness industry. She also opens up about her daily habits, how she stays organized amid a busy schedule, and the importance of setting clear goals. I share about my own experience using Foot Levelers orthotics since May and how much they’ve helped support my high arches. Whether you’re curious about better foot health or simply want inspiration from a driven leader and working mom, this episode offers a great mix of motivation and practical takeaways. Topics Discussed Foot Levelers’ partnership with the Blue Ridge Marathon and community wellness The history and family legacy behind Foot Levelers How custom orthotics work and why supporting all three arches matters Relationship between chiropractic care, biomechanics, and lower back health Types of orthotics for different lifestyles and activity levels Jamie’s running background and balancing wellness as a working mom Creating a “life club” — goal setting and accountability with friends Work-life balance, slowing down, and finding joy in small moments The importance of alignment and authenticity in business partnerships Foot Levelers’ new partnership with professional runner Sarah Hall Media Recommended Book: The AI-Driven Leader by Jeff Woods — A guide to using artificial intelligence to improve leadership, problem-solving, and innovation. Book: Endurance by Alfred Lansing — The story of explorer Ernest Shackleton’s Antarctic expedition Support Our Sponsors: Eternal Go to eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! DONNA Marathon Weekend (Jacksonville, FL | Jan 30–Feb 1) — Funds breast cancer research and supports patients. I’ll be there! breastcancermarathon.com — code: LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Foot Levelers — Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact.

I hope you had a wonderful Chicago Marathon weekend — if you raced, congrats! It was such a joy to be in Chicago again. Today I’m recapping the Chicago Marathon with the one and only Emily Venters. I spoke with Emily at the pre-race press conference — she was so excited to debut the marathon. If you had her on your tracker, you saw that things went sideways on race day. In this conversation, Emily shares the full story of what unfolded on the course and how she handled it — with so much grace, grit, and determination. She crossed that finish line about an hour off her goal time, finishing with the masses — something you almost never see a pro do — and there are so many powerful lessons in how she did it. If you’re new to Emily, she was on the show back in May after breaking 15 in the 5K (episode 609). She debuted the half in Houston, placed 5th at the US Half Marathon Championships, and owns a 68:48 PR in the half. She runs for Nike, lives in Utah, and is coached by Ed Eyestone. Emily is also a leukemia survivor (diagnosed at age 3), and she was raising money for that cause in Chicago — another reason finishing meant so much to her. I was at the finish looking for her with my friend (and relay co-host) Erika Kemp, and watching Emily come down that stretch was emotional and inspiring. Go give Emily a follow and a big virtual hug: @VentersEmily on Instagram. We are so proud of you, Emily — can’t wait to see what you do next. Topics Discussed The decision to finish anyway after a prolonged stop in the med tent. Overheating & low sodium symptoms starting as early as miles 6–8. Rejoining with the masses — dodging cups, weaving through runners, lost bottle tables. Improvising fueling — grabbing Gatorade cups, a spectator’s Coke, and a body-armor drink. The Biofreeze-in-the-eye moment — chaos of the mass field. Letting go of ego — finishing with a much slower time vs. DNF. Ties to her leukemia story and fundraising as motivation to finish. Learning the marathon’s science (sweat rate, sodium, carbs) vs. half/10K. Support system — Ed Eyestone, teammates, and the pro road community. Mindset work — journaling, daily “how do I feel?” check-ins, and redefining success. SponsorsTailwind Nutrition — Complete energy, electrolytes, hydration; light taste, easy on the gut. Their recovery mix has 20g protein and the single-serve sticks make refueling simple. Code: another20 at tailwindnutrition.com for 20% off.Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and gummies for a relaxed unwind without alcohol. Flavors like Blueberry Breeze, Raspberry Limeade, Salted Watermelon, and Peach Iced Tea. cornbreadhemp.com/another and use code: ANOTHER for 30% off.DONNA Marathon Weekend (Jacksonville, FL | Jan 30–Feb 1) — Funds breast cancer research and supports patients. I’ll be there! breastcancermarathon.com — code: LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Reviews & GiveawayWe’re giving away a Tailwind Nutrition gift bundle! Leave a new rating/review in October or November, and you’re entered. We’ll announce the winner the first week of December. (Congrats to KellyDC2 — winner of the Shokz headphones!)

Today my guest is Jay Dicharry — a physical therapist, researcher, coach, and the founder of the MOBO board. If you’re in the running world, you’ve probably heard his name before. Jay is also the author of Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed, which I’ve been reading and loving lately. I’ve also been using the MOBO board every day and can honestly say it’s been a game changer. Jay is such a kind and humble person, and his passion for helping runners move better and stay healthy really shines through in this conversation. He’s a faculty member at Oregon State University and has built an international reputation for his expertise in biomechanical analysis, injury prevention, and performance training. His career has spanned directing the Speed Clinic at the University of Virginia, running an independent lab in Oregon, and consulting with everyone from USA Track & Field to the U.S. Air Force. I felt like I got a free consultation during this interview! Jay truly elevates the standard of care for athletes, therapists, and coaches everywhere. I think you’re going to walk away from this one feeling motivated, inspired, and ready to commit to your strength work. Topics Covered: Jay’s backstory / path to running PT Prepping the body before building mileage Simple posture/form cues that stick Movement learning (focus over multitasking) Where to start: short “precision” sessions + strength work Treadmill pros/cons and pacing by effort Tendon basics: slow loading and pain guidelines Finding the right PT and communicating clearly Foot strength & MOBO fundamentals Media Recommended: Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed — Jay Dicharry (2nd edition referenced). The Midnight Library — Matt Haig. Support Our Sponsors: Eternal Go to eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line! Allianz Richmond Marathon Weekend: I’ll be at the Richmond Marathon expo and hosting a live podcast there — I’d love to see you!

I’m your host, Lindsey Hein, and today I’m joined by Keira D’Amato! I’m so proud of her and thrilled that her new book, Don’t Call It a Comeback, is officially out in the world. I had the chance to read an advanced copy this summer and absolutely loved getting a deeper look into how she’s processed her rise to success in our running community. We’ve all watched her story unfold—from breaking the American record in the marathon (2:19:12) in 2022, to setting the half marathon record (1:06:39), to balancing her life as a mom of two and Nike athlete. Keira is now training in Utah under coach Ed Eyestone, and this conversation is exactly what you’d expect from her—fun, honest, and inspiring. It’s been a while since she’s been on the show, and she always makes it so easy to root for her. I’m so excited for you to hear what’s next in her journey and to celebrate this new chapter as an author. Topics Discussed: Book tour feelings & “imposter” author vibes Working with co-writer Evelyn Spence + keeping Keira’s voice; how the title Don’t Call It a Comeback happened Handling mainstream attention vs “real-life” mom Keira; separating personas Early motherhood, loneliness, and how running/community helped Move to Utah; choosing coach Ed Eyestone; altitude + team culture; big Sunday-off change and training differences Being 41: masters records, recovery tweaks, and (not yet) perimenopause Racing update: 69’ half in Copenhagen; choosing Valencia Marathon; taking the kids along Broadcasting experience (Chicago) and learning from front-row views of elite marathoning Storytelling/DJ/“life bits”and why telling your own stories matters Olympic Trials disappointment, lessons, resilience, and modeling that for her kids Media Mentioned: Books Don’t Call It a Comeback — Keira D’Amato My Friends — Fredrik Backman A Man Called Ove — Fredrik Backman Anxious People — Fredrik Backman How to Tell a Story — The Moth Shows / Film Taskmaster (UK comedy series) The Sex Lives of College Girls (HBO) The Summer I Turned Pretty (Prime Video) Podcasts Relay Support our Sponsors: CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and use LINDSEY for 15% off. Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Foot Levelers — Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact.

This week on the Wellness Series, I’m joined by Claire Shorenstein, a board-certified sports dietitian who’s spent over a decade helping active people fuel their bodies to feel strong and perform their best. Claire is also a passionate trail and ultrarunner, a mom of two, and the host of the Eat for Endurance podcast. Claire’s own experience struggling to fuel properly as a new runner led her to change careers and devote her work to helping others do it better. In our conversation, she shares practical guidance for athletes of all levels—whether you’re training for your first 5K or your tenth ultra—on how to approach nutrition to support your running, recovery, and overall wellness. This was such a fun and informative conversation, and I hope it leaves you feeling more confident about fueling your body to feel well and run well. What we discussed: Claire’s path from classical musician/oboe player (Yale) to sports dietitian & endurance runner Her philosophy: looking at the “whole person” (life landscape, health history, lab work, lifestyle) Balancing everyday nutrition with training & race-day fueling Common mistakes endurance athletes make — especially under-eating carbs Tracking food intake without triggering disordered-eating tendencies Protein, carbs & fueling as we age: peri/menopause, bone health, energy availability Athlete performance plates & learning what “enough” really looks like Her advice for new marathoners: start by adding more carbs and always fuel before/after workouts Media Recommended: Eat for Endurance podcast – eatforendurance.com Book: Practical Fueling for Endurance Athletes by Kylie Van Horn Claire’s IG: @eatforendurance Kylie’s IG: @flynutrition3 Support our Sponsors: Foot Levelers Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact. Eternal Use code another10 for 10% off at checkout at eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and CBD/THC gummies; third-party tested; made in the USA. Code ANOTHER for 30% off at cornbreadhemp.com.

Today’s guest is longtime pro Natosha Rogers, back on the show for the first time in about eight years and running her third marathon in Chicago. Natosha has an impressive and long running career so far—NCAA 10K champ in 2012, four Olympic Trials appearances on the track, and a gutsy (and very tough) marathon debut at the 2024 Trials that left her wanting a do-over. She got it this March in Nagoya, running 2:23:51—proof of concept that the marathon is her event when things go right. Since then, she’s moved back home to Colorado, shifted coaching to Steve Magness, and is leaning into a smarter, individualized approach—less ego, more wisdom—for Chicago. We get into why she now believes finishing at the Trials was a mistake, how she managed a mid-race pacing surge in Nagoya, why Chicago’s organization and pacers fit this moment in her career (and contract year), and how a balanced life—family, Denver community, mountains, coffee shops, even a little dancing—actually fuels big goals. It’s reflective, candid, and Chicago-ready—get Natosha in your tracker and enjoy the episode! Top topics discussed: Move back to Colorado; coaching change to Steve Magness and why 2024 Trials debrief: why finishing was a mistake and what it cost her Nagoya marathon: mid-race pacing error, learning to “juggle variables,” and 2:23:51 redemption Marathon wisdom: negotiating with yourself, managing heat/pace, “be a wise old lady” early Injury context (sciatic/nerve chain), lessons on knowing when to stop Leaving the Puma elite group; need for individualized training and life/work separation Why Chicago: organized pacing, fast course, contract timing, field fit and top-10 aim What she values in Steve Magness as a coach: collaboration, individualized volume, mental side of performance Career perspective: longevity, duality of highs/lows, inspired to keep going through 2028 Life outside running: Denver community, mountains, coffee shops, dancing; writing goals/book ideas Media mentioned: Books: The Goldfinch (Donna Tartt), A New Earth (Eckhart Tolle), The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho) Music (karaoke pick): Aretha Franklin — “Chain of Fools” Sponsors: Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and CBD/THC gummies; third-party tested; made in the USA. Code ANOTHER for 30% off at cornbreadhemp.com. Tailwind Nutrition — Endurance Fuel as all-in-one calories, electrolytes, and hydration; gentle on the stomach; code ANOTHER20 at tailwindnutrition.com. Fringe Heals — Red light therapy face mask and body wraps; FDA-registered mask. Code HEIN10 at fringeheals.com.

For this episode in my Wellness One series, I sat down with Dr. Kurt Juergens, a chiropractor who’s spent 36 years treating runners and athletes. He’s worked on the USATF Olympic Trials sports medicine team (1992) and with the U.S. Men’s Clay Court Tennis Championships—and he’s run seven marathons himself. I came in with basic (and very real) questions: What exactly is happening when something “cracks”? Is it okay that I pop my kids’ backs? How does chiropractic help runners beyond the satisfying pop? We got into feet-as-foundation, why balance and hamstring flexibility matter more than you think, how kinesiology tape actually works, and when custom orthotics (that support all three arches) can change the chain reaction up your ankles, knees, hips, and back. If you’re curious about chiropractic but haven’t tried it (hi, it’s me), this one breaks it down without the overwhelm. Topics we cover Dr. Juergens’ 36 years in sports-focused chiropractic care What’s really happening when you hear the “pop” Safe vs. unsafe back-popping for kids Feet as the foundation: pronation, arches, orthotics Balance and hamstring flexibility for runners Kinesiology tape basics and postural taping When to add PT or imaging and how often to get adjusted Quick drills for runners and posture tips Media & resources mentioned Eternal — performance health plans: eternal.co (code ANOTHER10) Foot Levelers — custom three-arch orthotics (via providers): footlevelers.com Dr. Kurt Juergens — Chiropractic & Sports Rehab Center (Houston, TX) Kinesiology Tape MOBO Board — balance/foot stability tool Lindsey mentioned using Sponsors: Fringe Heals Use code “HEIN10” for 10% off! Foot Levelers Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact. Eternal Use code another10 for 10% off at checkout at eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans!