If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast

We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.

177. Showing Up For The Challenges - Karen Maezen Miller

Lori recorded this episode in October but what is very apparent is how challenges and the unknown are an everyday thing that helps tell our stories, In this episode Maezen talks about finding our space and our 'me' time. Karen Maezen Miller’s Website: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/01/27/177-showing-up-for-the-challenges-karen-maezen-miller/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

01-27
01:09:06

176. Revisiting 10,000 Maniacs Founding Member Steven Gustafson

Steven Gustafson is a founding member and bassist of the band 10,000 Maniacs. His sister, Cathy, had Down syndrome and we got a chance to discuss with him the impact she had on his life and the lives around her. Today we revisit that interview to share this sibling love story. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/01/27/176-revisiting-10000-maniacs-founding-member-steven-gustafson/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

07-20
58:23

175. Communicating Our Stories with Sid and Vaish Sarathy

This week we revisit our conversation with Sid and Vaish Sarathy. Sid, who has the duel diagnoses of autism and Down syndrome. Although he is non-Speaking, Sid is a poet with two published books. Dr. Vaish Sarathy is a functional nutrition practitioner and science educator. She is the founder of Functional Nutrition for Kids and Plum Pudding Chemistry, both practices designed to optimize the learning potential of kids with Down syndrome and/or autism using both functional medicine and non-linear education principles.  In this episode, we discuss their journey with communication, breaking down barriers of misperception and limiting thoughts to support Sid in freeing his voice and the responsibility that freedom brings with it. Sid’s Poetry Books: https://push-press.blogspot.com Sid’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/downlikesid/ Vaish’s Website: https://functionalnutritionforkids.com Vaish’s Podcast Funtional Nutrition & Learning For Kids: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/functional-nutrition-and-learning-for-kids/id1478145610 Rapid Prompting Method (RPM): https://www.halo-soma.org Chris Martin’s Website: www.UnrestrictedInterest.com Connections Academy: https://www.connectionsacademy.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/06/15/175-communicating-our-stories-with-sid-and-vaish-sarathy/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

06-17
01:16:28

174. Advocating For Speech Therapy - Julie Picot

This week we once again sit down with Julie Picot but this time we are briefly joined by her daughter Elyse. We take a deep dive on the speech and reading journey in our community and discuss different ways to advocate for our children. Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons: https://a.co/d/3CEtpLY Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/06/09/174-advocating-for-speech-therapy-julie-picot/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

06-10
48:28

173. The Endless Possibilities of People with Down Syndrome: Revisiting Jake Pratt

This week we revisit our interview with Jake Pratt, who with support, advocacy and inclusion is living his dreams and changing the narrative for people with Down syndrome. Jake’s UPS Commercial: https://youtu.be/fw97dqK6uiM Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/05/27/173-the-endless-possibilities-of-people-with-down-syndrome/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.  

05-27
01:03:30

172. Happy Mothers Day: We Celebrate You

Today we celebrate all the powerful mothers who give so much to their children day in and day out. Remember how strong you are. The world runs on that power and we thank you. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/05/11/172-happy-mothers-day-we-celebrate-you/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

05-12
25:05

171. Alzheimer’s Disease In People with Down Syndrome - Dr. Elizabeth Head

This week we had the privilege to talk to Dr. Elizabeth Head, Professor and Vice Chair for research at the University of California, Irvine in the department of Pathology. Dr. Head has published more than 150 peer reviewed papers and has dedicated over 20 years to the study of aging and Alzheimer’s disease with a focus on people with Down syndrome. Head Lab: https://sites.mind.uci.edu/headlab/ ABC-DS study - https://www.nia.nih.gov/research/abc-ds DSConnect - https://dsconnect.nih.gov/ Center for Aging Research – Down syndrome - https://sites.mind.uci.edu/cfar-ds/ Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/04/27/171-alzheimers-disease-in-people-with-down-syndrome-dr-elizabeth-head/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

04-29
45:22

170. Celebrating The Life of Carl Erskine with Ted Green

The world lost pioneering Down syndrome advocate Carl Erskine on April 16, 2024, at the age of 97. Carl and his wife Betty, were involved deeply with the Special Olympics and charities which aimed at helping people with developmental disabilities such as his son Jimmy. Carl Erskine was a MLB All-Star, World Series Champion, ally of Jackie Robinson and the last surviving member of the “Boys of Summer” Brooklyn teams of the 1950’s. To honor Carl’s life, we revisit our episode with documentarian Ted Green discussing his film ’The Best We’ve Got: The Carl Erskine Story’. As Ted says in this conversation, Carl and Betty are the perfect embodiment of what is on Jackie Robinson’s tombstone.   “A life is not important except for the impact it has on other lives“. Godspeed Carl. Website: https://www.carlerskinefilm.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/04/21/170-celebrating-the-life-of-carl-erskine-with-ted-green/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

04-21
01:02:25

169. The Annual DSDN Retreats with Ben Hughes

This week we are fortunate to have Ben Hughes back on the podcast to discuss the Down Syndrome Diagnosis Network’s (DSDN) annual “Rockin’ Retreats” that offer our community the connection and respite caregivers truly need. Retreat information page: https://www.dsdiagnosisnetwork.org/dsdn-retreats Dad's retreat registration page: https://form.jotform.com/DSDN/2024-rockin-dad-retreat Mom's retreat registration page: https://form.jotform.com/DSDN/2024-rockin-mom-retreat DSDN website: https://www.dsdiagnosisnetwork.org/ DSDN Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/DownSyndromeDiagnosisNetwork DSDN main fundraising page: https://dsdn.networkforgood.com/projects/201851-2024-dsdn-rockin-fundraising A link to Ben’s personal DSDN fundraising page: https://dsdn.networkforgood.com/projects/207713-ben-hughes-s-fundraiser Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/04/14/169-the-annual-dsdn-retreats-with-ben-hughes/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

04-15
59:06

168. Liam's 14th Birthday: Sharing Some Insight

Our son turned 14 last weekend and in this episode we reflect on the joys, challenges and growth we've experienced together on this journey with Liam. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/03/09/168-liams-14th-birthday-sharing-some-insight/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.  

03-08
01:05:45

167. A Discussion About Using The R-Word with Lynette Louise

This week we revisit our interview with Lynette Louise who is board certified in Neurofeedback. We were very interested in the science of Neurofeedback but early on in the conversation we moved to a serious discussion about the use of the r-word and the reasons why Lynette uses it. This episode may feel a bit intense for many of you and we understand why, but we highly recommend listening all the way through to the end. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/02/25/167-a-discussion-about-using-the-r-word-with-lynette-louise/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

02-26
59:26

166. Finding The Right Supports Without Shame - Julie Picot

This week we have the wonderful Julie Picot back on the show to discuss her experience transitioning her daughter, Elyse from TK to Kindergarten. We also touch upon how very often parents feel shame when guiding their school aged children out of diapers. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/02/17/166-finding-the-right-supports-without-shame-with-julie-picot/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

02-19
01:03:42

165. Picking The Right Pediatrician with Dr. Ilona Kleiner

Dr. Ilona Kleiner has been both our children's pediatrician since birth. Today we discuss with her the importance of always seeing the whole child and how her care for Liam really isn't any different than that of a typical child. Dr. Kleiner's Bio: https://www.pamgdocs.com/copy-of-about-our-doctors-1 Recommend books: What’s Going on Down There?  by Karen Gravelle What’s Happening to My Body by Lyna Madras Guy Stuff by Cara Natterson It’s Perfectly Normal by Robin Harris Being You: The Body Image Book by Charlotte Markey Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/01/28/165-picking-the-right-pediatrician-with-dr-ilona-kleiner/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

01-29
58:13

164. Charlotte and Riley: Not Taking No For An Answer

In this episode, we discuss Charlotte Fien’s path to advocacy, breaking down the barriers of education, the love story between her and her husband Riley, and how her infectious can-do attitude has influenced him to break down barriers in his own life. It is the story of two humans creating the life they want to live and never taking no for an answer. Charlotte & Riley Forever FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/autismintune  A World Without Down’s Syndrome (Documentary): https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07MSHKFKQ/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r Charlotte’s Speeches: 2017 United Nations: https://youtu.be/1Xqku6RwaAY?si=KYf7jnx-Uc56cgRP 2018 United Nations: https://youtu.be/FHglwa8vlYg?si=hwjusGDIsVSh5_ty Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/01/21/164-charlotte-and-riley-not-taking-no-for-an-answer/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

01-22
48:42

163. Revisiting Patience In The New Year with Maezen Miller

Happy Martin Luther King Day! We start this new year by revisiting with our friend, Zen Buddhist Priest, Maezen Miller. We discuss having patience and letting go in order for it to all unfold. Believing and having patience can enable our children to be who they are, go where they go and do what they do, to become exactly who they are. Karen Maezen Miller: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 Steve & Michel Gleason Foundation: https://teamgleason.org Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/01/14/163-revisiting-patience-in-the-new-year-with-maezen-miller/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

01-15
55:50

162. Living In The Moment and Taking the Time to Reflect On Life

Follow Stephen while he unexpectedly flies back to Louisiana due to his mother’s illness. He reflects on the importance of experiencing all of life’s moments and truly being present. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/22/162-living-in-the-moment/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.  

10-23
08:20

161. Down Syndrome Awareness Month 2023: Bringing Awareness to Our Community’s Potential

October is Down Syndrome Awareness Month and in this episode, Stephen and Lori discuss another angle in your next Awareness Campaign. Some of the most important people to make aware of our community's potential are educational professionals. We as parents can advocate but it just might be our children who change the minds of those in charge of their education. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/14/161-down-syndrome-awareness-month-2023-bringing-awareness-to-our-communitys-potential/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

10-16
30:43

160. The Inclusive Hub: A Gym For People of All Abilities with Liam Starkey

Joining us today is Liam Starkey from The Inclusive Hub. The Hub was started in 2016 helping small groups of Autistic children around Liverpool, England take part in non-contact boxing and fitness sessions. It has now expanded and continues to empower people of all ages and abilities through exercise.  Website: www.theinclusivehub.co.uk Order a tee shirt: transalpino.co.uk Twitter: https://twitter.com/liamstarkey84 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_inclusive_hub/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RotundaInclusiveHub Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/08/160-the-inclusive-hub/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

10-09
55:17

159. DSALA and DSC2U: Supporting Our Spanish-Speaking Community

Today we are joined by Sandra Baker from the Down Syndrome Association of Los Angeles (DSALA) and Dr. Brian Skotko from the Down Syndrome Clinic To You (DSC2U) to discuss their collaboration in supporting Spanish-Speaking families that have a member with Down syndrome.   DSC2U: www.DSC2U.org DSALA: www.DSALA.org DSALA Contact: (818) 786-0001 info@DSALA.org NOTES FROM DR. SKOTKO: We have written a summary paper for the lay audience to help them access and understand all of our research findings (available in English and Spanish). We have created ready-to-go Facebook posts (English and Spanish) and Twitter posts (English and Spanish), summarizing our research findings. We also developed this Awareness Building event toolkit, so that Down syndrome groups can continue to host meaningful diversity dialogues in their community.  We provide ready-to-go materials and easy action steps. Albert Pless and I gave Grand Rounds at UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital and our own MGH Genetics Division about our research findings.  The recording for this presentation is available for viewing.  Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/01/159-dsala-and-dsc2u/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

10-02
46:03

158. Best Buddies with Katelyn Quintero

This week we were joined by Katelyn Quintero from Best Buddies International, which is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to establishing a global volunteer movement that creates opportunities for one-to-one friendships, integrated employment, leadership development, and inclusive living for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities.  Website: www.bestbuddies.org Champion of the Year: www.bestbuddieschampion.org The Walk: www.bestbuddiesfriendshipwalk.org Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/09/24/158-best-buddies-with-katelyn-quintero/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www.IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions and comments. You can join our mailing list there and get alerts of future podcast episodes. Thank you again and we look forward to you joining us on the next episode of IF WE KNEW THEN.

09-25
01:05:38

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