In AI We Trust?

In AI We Trust? is a podcast hosted by Miriam Vogel of EqualAI where we survey the global landscape for inspiration and best practices in the AI space with an eye toward responsible, trustworthy AI. Each episode aims to answer a ‘big question’ as we speak to leaders in government, tech and civil society.

AI Literacy Series: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and Communities with Susan Gonzalez

This episode of In AI We Trust? features co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman continuing their AI literacy series with Susan Gonzalez, CEO of AI&You. The discussion centers on the critical need for basic AI literacy within marginalized communities to create opportunities and prevent an "AI divide." Susan emphasizes overcoming fear, building foundational AI knowledge, and understanding AI's impact on jobs and small businesses. She stresses the urgency of AI education and AI&You's role in providing accessible resources.  The episode highlights the importance of dialogue and strategic partnerships to advance AI literacy, ensuring that everyone can benefit from AI's opportunities before the "window" closes.

04-08
51:19

AI Literacy Series Ep. 6: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and Communities with Susan Gonzalez

This episode of In AI We Trust? features co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosyn Man continuing their AI literacy series with Susan Gonzalez, CEO of AI&You. The discussion centers on the critical need for basic AI literacy within marginalized communities to create opportunities and prevent an "AI divide." Susan emphasizes overcoming fear, building foundational AI knowledge, and understanding AI's impact on jobs and small businesses. She stresses the urgency of AI education and AI&You's role in providing accessible resources.  The episode highlights the importance of dialogue and strategic partnerships to advance AI literacy, ensuring that everyone can benefit from AI's opportunities before the "window" closes.

04-07
51:19

AI Literacy Series Ep. 5 with Judy Spitz: Fixing the Tech Talent Pipeline

Description: In this episode of In AI We Trust?, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman speak with Dr. Judith Spitz, Founder and Executive Director of Break Through Tech sheds light on the blind spots within the industry, and discusses how Break Through Tech is pioneering innovative programs to open doors to talented individuals. She gets more young people from a broad array of backgrounds to study technology disciplines, ensures they learn leadership and other skills critical to their success, and gets them into industry- she is single-handedly building a more robust and prepared tech ecosystem.

03-25
01:15:59

AI Literacy Series Ep. 4: Mason Grimshaw on AI Literacy and Data Sovereignty for Indigenous Communities

Mason Grimshaw: the Power of Identity, Community, and RepresentationDescription: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman are joined by Mason Grimshaw, data scientist at Ode Partners and VP at IndigiGenius. Grimshaw discusses his roots growing up on a reservation, and what led him to the field of AI. He explains why it’s his mission to bring AI education and tools back to his community. Grimshaw articulates how AI literacy is essential for Indigenous communities to ensure they retain data sovereignty and benefit from these game-changing tools.Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

03-11
56:19

AI Literacy Series Ep. 3: danah boyd on Thinking Critically about the Systems That Shape Us

Description: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman sit down with danah boyd, Partner Researcher at Microsoft Research, visiting distinguished professor at Georgetown, and founder of Data & Society Research Institute, to explore how AI is reshaping education, social structures, and power dynamics. boyd challenges common assumptions about AI, urging us to move beyond simplistic narratives of good vs. bad and instead ask: Who is designing these systems? What are their limitations? And what kind of future are we building with them?Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

02-27
01:15:24

AI Literacy Series Ep. 2 with Dewey Murdick (CSET): Centering People in AI’s Progress

Description: In this episode of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman sit down with AI policy expert Dewey Murdick, Executive Director at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET) who shares his hopes for AI’s role in personal development and other key areas of society. From national security to education, Murdick unpacks the policies and international collaboration needed to ensure AI serves humanity first.Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

02-11
40:05

AI Literacy Series Ep. 1: What is AI and Why Are We Afraid of It?

Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman break down the basics, the limitations, the power, and the fear surrounding AI – and how you can transform it from a concept to a tool in the first episode of the In AI We Trust? AI Literacy series.The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, who is leading in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts.

01-29
25:45

Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD): Sen. Rounds' 2025 Message: Why Every Senate Committee is Talking AI This Congress

In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) discusses the transformative role of AI and the Senate’s efforts to support its innovation and development. From working to advance AI-driven health care solutions to ensuring U.S. leadership in innovation, he shares legislative priorities and insights from the Senate AI Insight Forums and underscores the importance of AI literacy and collaboration across industry, reminding us: “AI is real, it’s here, it’s not going away.”

01-17
30:22

Vilas Dhar (McGovern Foundation): AI for the people and by the people: Year-in-Review and 2025 Predictions

In this 2024 year-end episode of In AI We Trust?, Vilas Dhar of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation and Miriam Vogel of EqualAI review 2024 and discuss predictions for the year ahead. 

12-20
36:34

Elizabeth Kelly (AISI): How will the US AI Safety Institute lead the US and globe in AI safety?

In this episode of #InAIWeTrust Elizabeth Kelly, director of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute (AISI) explains the significance of last week’s National Security Memorandum (NSM) on AI, shares her experience working on the Biden Executive Order on AI, and provides insight into the US AISI including: recent guidance for companies to mitigate AI risks, partnerships with Anthropic and Open AI; the upcoming inaugural convening of International Network of AI Safety Institutes. 

10-31
26:26

Michael Chertoff (Chertoff Group) and Miriam Vogel (EqualAI): Is your AI use violating the law?

In this special edition of #InAIWeTrust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel and former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff sit down to discuss their recent co-authored paper, Is Your Use of AI Violating the Law? An Overview of the Current Legal Landscape. Special guest Victoria Espinel, CEO of BSA | The Software Alliance, moderates the conversation with the co-authors to explore key findings, current laws on the books, and potential liabilities from AI deployment and use that lawyers, executives, judges, and policy makers need to understand in our increasingly AI-driven world. The article can be found on our website here.Read the Axios exclusive here.

10-17
28:55

Dr. Brennan Spiegel (Cedars-Sinai): AI in healthcare: Will AI help humans to thrive?

In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Dr. Brennan Spiegel, Cedars-Sinai Director of Health Services Research and Chair of Digital Health Ethics, discusses his use of AI for increased efficiencies and to improve patient care, including co-founding Xaia, an AI mental health tool. He talks about the importance of human-centered design and how AI can enable doctors to better serve and care for patients. 

10-03
22:41

Russell Wald (HAI): Innovating for the future - Can academia bring the next wave of AI innovation and train our future generations?

In this episode, Russell Wald, Deputy Director at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence (HAI) underscores the importance of academic research around AI, key lessons from the AI Index Report, the need for uniform AI benchmarks, and the value of AI education for policy makers.Resources mentioned in this episode:2024 AI Index ReportAI on Trial: Legal Models Hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or More) Benchmarking Queries

07-30
41:24

Dmitri Alperovitch (Silverado Policy Accelerator): The role of AI in “Cold War II”?

Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-Founder and Chairman of Silverado Policy Accelerator and Co-Founder of CrowdStrike, joins this week’s episode of #InAIWeTrust to share his view that we are in the “Second Cold War” with China, the role of AI in this battle as well as in bio tech and other key sectors, and the role of government in this arena. To hear more from Dmitri, tune into his podcast Geopolitics Decanted: https://podcast.silverado.org/episodes Dmitri's new book, "World on the Brink: How America Can Beat China in the Race for the Twenty-First Century" can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF1TKHY2 

05-29
30:56

Scott Galloway (NYU): Wealth, influence, and AI in America: Will AI be a tool of societal control and who (should be) minding the store?

Scott Galloway, professor, entrepreneur, and best selling author, joins this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? to cover hot topics including: impact of AI on businesses as a “corporate ozempic,” the political influence of “shallow fakes,” the dangerous threat of AI on our increasingly vulnerable and lonely population, the role of business executives and regulators in guaranteeing our safety, and the potential of AI to unlock physical and mental health care. --Resources mentioned in this episode:Algebra of WealthAlgebra of Happiness 

05-08
40:42

Ylli Bajraktari (SCSP): Will the U.S. be AI-ready by 2030?

In this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? Ylli Bajraktari, President and CEO of the Special Competitive Studies Project, joins us to discuss the implications of AI on national security, geopolitical competition, what the US government can do to establish a foundation for success in AI leadership, and the upcoming SCSP AI expo in DC (May 7-8). ―Resources mentioned in this episode:Ylli Bajraktari Testimony at the Second Senate AI Insight Forum The Next Chapter in AI2023 Year in Review: Six Items To Watch In 2024

05-02
38:21

K.J. Bagchi (The Leadership Conference Education Fund Center for Civil Rights and Tech) Encoding Justice: Can we protect our civil rights in the AI age?

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, Koustubh “K.J.” Bagchi, VP of the recently established Center for Civil Rights and Technology, founded by The Leadership Conference Education Fund, discusses the impact of AI on democracy, including deepfakes and elections; the interplay between AI and privacy; and the state of federal civil rights actions on AI.

04-10
33:17

Shelley Zalis, the Female Quotient (FQ): Can we achieve equality through algorithms?

In this episode of In AI We Trust? Shelley Zalis, founder and CEO of The Female Quotient (FQ), joins us in celebration of Women’s History Month. Tune in to learn about the FQ’s Algorithm for Equality Manifesto, how AI can help close the gender gap and the whys of championing women in industry.  ―Resources mentioned in this episode:The Algorithm for Equality® Manifesto

03-27
27:00

Helen Toner (CSET): How to govern AI in the face of uncertainty?

This week Helen Toner, Director of Strategy and Foundational Research Grants at Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology (CSET), joins In AI We Trust? to discuss decoding China’s AI policies, AI’s role in warfare, the potential impact of AI agents, challenges around regulating changing technology, and how to approach AI evaluations. ―Resources mentioned in this episode:Regulating the AI Frontier: Design Choices and ConstraintsWill China Set Global Tech Standards?The rise of artificial intelligence raises serious concerns for national security

03-13
35:04

Micky Tripathi (HHS): Is AI good for your health?: How HHS is approaching AI use to support innovation and reduce harms & inefficiencies in our health care system.

In this episode, Dr. Micky Tripathi, National Coordinator for Health Information Technology at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), shares how AI can improve patient care, current work at HHS to implement the WH Executive Order on AI, the potential risks that AI presents to the healthcare system and how transparency can improve AI outcomes in the healthcare space. 

03-07
35:57

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