In-House Outliers

In-House Outliers shares the stories and secrets of those who have taken unconventional paths and challenged conventional notions of how corporate legal departments should operate.

Building Upwards with ITGC's Sarah Irwin

On this episode, Sarah Irwin (CEO and Founder of ITGC) joined Alex Kelly for a discussion about her fascinating journey from private practice, to GC of a high-growth SaaS company, to Founder and CEO of her own business. Sarah also shared insights into what to prioritize when building a legal function from the ground up, and discussed her thoughts on how legal teams should approach technologies like AI.

11-20
28:07

Forward-Thinking with DHL's Tiffani Huynh

On this episode, Tiffani Huynh (Director of Legal Innovation, Technology, and Analytics at DHL) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her approach to process optimization, how she assesses legal tech providers, and how working for an organization that's known for efficiency informed her approach to legal ops initiatives. Tiffani also shared her thoughts on the value AI can bring to in-house legal teams, and highlighted key learnings from her career journey.

11-08
20:29

Process Innovation with Legal Ops Leader Reeta Sharma

On this episode, Legal Operations Leader Reeta Sharma joined Alex Kelly for a discussion about how pairing thoughtful process improvements with innovation legal technology can multiply the value that in-house legal teams can deliver to their organization. Reeta also shared her thoughts on the use of AI tools for legal departments, offered advice to those starting out in the legal ops field, and talked about insights from her own career journey to the field of legal operations.

10-23
26:48

Strategic Thinking with Tala's Damier Xandrine

On this episode, Damier Xandrine (Chief Legal Officer at Tala) joined Alex Kelly to discuss the value that understanding an organization's financial situation can bring to an in-house legal team's ability to do its best work. Damier also discussed her thoughts on the importance of the legal operations function, and shared insights from her career journey.

10-10
27:54

A Thoughtful Approach with Legal Operations Leader David Krebs

On this episode, Legal Operations Leader David Krebs joined Alex Kelly for an insightful discussion about the challenges of navigating legal ops initiatives, and how he has approached major projects throughout his career. David also reflected on his career journey, and shared his thoughts on the impact legal tech and AI is having on in-house legal teams.

09-25
25:31

Finding Your Voice with Saint-Gobain North America's La-Toya Hackney

On this episode, La-Toya Hackney (SVP, General Counsel & Secretary at Saint-Gobain North America) joined Alex Kelly for a candid discussion about her amazing career journey, the importance of valuing diversity in the legal field, and her general philosophy when it comes to managing an in-house legal department. La-Toya also shared her thoughts on the value that legal operations provides to a legal team, and underscored the importance of the various mentors she's had throughout her career.

09-12
34:19

Learning to Prioritize with Keurig Dr. Pepper's Brandy Musick

On this episode, Brandy Musick (Senior Manager of Legal Operations at Keurig Dr. Pepper) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her approach to implementing legal technology. Brandy also shared insights from her career journey, and talked about the importance of e-billing for modern legal departments.

08-27
25:56

Looking to the Future with Brightflag's Alex Kelly

On this special episode, Brightflag Co-Founder and COO Alex Kelly goes from host of the podcast to guest as he joins Brightflag Chief Customer Officer Kevin Cohn for a candid interview. During his conversation with Kevin, Alex discusses his own career journey, Brightflag's early beginnings, his thoughts on the growth of AI and legal operations, and much more.

08-14
33:06

Embracing Community with One Medical's Louisa Toy

On this episode, Louisa Toy (Legal Operations Manager at One Medical) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her legal operations journey. Louisa also shared insights into the most valuable skillsets for legal ops professionals to have, and the importance of embracing the legal operations community.

07-25
16:49

Looking Upstream with Enfusion's Matthew Campobasso

On this episode, Matthew Campobasso (General Counsel at Enfusion) joined Alex Kelly for an insightful discussion about embracing a proactive mindset as a GC. Matthew also shared his thoughts on the power of the legal operations function, and discussed his move in-house after over a decade working as an Associate and Partner with Chicago-based law firms.

07-11
39:42

Making Big Impacts with Trend Micro's Brent Dyer

On this episode, Brent Dyer (Director of Legal Operations, Employment Law, and Litigation at Trend Micro) joined Alex Kelly to discuss how to identify the initiatives that will have the greatest impacts on your in-house team. Brent also discussed how e-billing transformed his legal team's spend management capabilities, and shared insights from his journey into legal operations.

06-27
30:46

Pushing the Envelope with Splunk's Chris Beahn

On this episode, Chris Beahn (Director, Legal & Global Affairs Operations at Splunk) joined Alex Kelly to discuss the consulting and project management principles that have had the greatest impact on his legal operations career. Chris also shared his thoughts on how the legal industry has pushed technological innovation forward over the years, and the value that networking and being a part of a legal ops community can provide.

06-13
24:39

Bridging the Gaps with Legal Leader Samara Abrams

On this episode, Legal Leader Samara Abrams joined Alex Kelly for a discussion about how to navigate the legal ops function, and the importance of combining good data with trusted relationships to affect change. Samara also shared insights into how her work in Business Development informs her legal ops strategies, and shared her top tips for facilitating communication and eliminating silos.

05-30
28:05

Live from CGI 2024 with Timothy Melchior (Trane Technologies) and Tom Rice (TravelPerk)

Recorded live at 2024's CLOC Global Institute, this episode features Timothy Melchior (Trane Technologies) and Tom Rice (TravelPerk). Timothy dove into the key pillars he prioritizes when executing legal ops initiatives, including how he works to create a lean legal function. And Tom shared his insights on the rise of AI tools and how they're transforming legal work.

05-27
23:14

Live from CGI 2024 with Stéphanie Hamon (Norton Rose Fulbright) and Kshitij Dua (HashiCorp)

Recorded live at 2024's CLOC Global Institute, this episode features Stéphanie Hamon (Head of Legal Operations Consulting at Norton Rose Fulbright) and Kshitij Dua (Head of Legal Operations at HashiCorp). Stéphanie discussed the path that led her to legal operations and her key takeaways from CGI 2024, and Kshitij talked about the benefits of embracing new learning opportunities in legal ops and setting clear professional goals.

05-24
15:06

Live from CGI 2024 with Jason Winmill (Buying Legal Council) and Katrina Gowans (IFM Investors)

Recorded live at CLOC Global Institute, this episode features legal leaders Jason Winmill (Argopoint, Buying Legal Council) and Katrina Gowans (IFM Investors). Jason underscored the importance of engaging with the community as a legal ops professional, and talked about how to navigate obtaining resources for your legal team. Katrina discussed her approach to finding the right pace when implementing change for the in-house team, and touched on her observations about the impacts generative AI tools are already having on legal work.

05-20
18:42

Live from CGI 2024 with Heather Torres (Sonnedix) and Denise Doyle (Extreme Networks)

Our 2024 "Live from CLOC Global Institute" podcast series kicks off with Heather Torres (Assistant General Counsel at Sonnedix) and Denise Doyle (Extreme Networks). Heather stopped by to reflect on her first year at CGI, and how data changes the way legal work gets done. Denise discussed the value of prioritizing legal spend management, the progress that is left to be made when it comes to leveraging legal data, and the potential of AI tools for legal work.

05-17
17:18

Redefining Efficiency with Legal Leader Kaylyn Nichols

On this episode, legal leader Kaylyn Nichols joined Alex Kelly to discuss her approach to process optimization, as well as what she views as the central pillars of an effective legal operations strategy. Kaylyn also shared insights from her career journey, and discussed the transformative impacts AI will likely have on legal teams in the coming years.

05-09
28:24

Developing a Plan with Stripe's Chad Hallberg

On this episode, Chad Hallberg (Legal Operations Lead at Stripe) joined Alex Kelly to discuss the central pillars of the legal operations function, and Chad's approach to launching initiatives related to each pillar. Chad also underscored the importance of leveraging spend management as a launching pad for other legal ops projects, and discussed his career journey.

04-25
31:53

Spearheading Innovation with Legal OS's Lorna Khemraz

Lorna Khemraz (Lead AI Counsel at Legal OS) joined Alex Kelly on the podcast this week to discuss the ways that AI is poised to improve all facets of legal work. Lorna also shared her thoughts on the major differences between working in-house vs. private practice, and shared insights from her fascinating career journey.

04-11
28:17

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