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We are now in the early stages of something we’ve never seen before: a global pandemic. In addition to our health, social isolation and economic uncertainty have left us scrambling to understand our new normal and wondering what the future holds. From his own bubble, health care leader, turnaround expert and #stayhome architect Andy Slavitt is making it his mission to give Americans critical information in real-time but also hope for a path forward. He reminds us of what we can achieve and the deep sense of solidarity that we need during these trying times. Andy is joined each week by leading scientists, cultural icons, and political leaders—together, they will help us process, understand, and adjust to the changes around us.

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This Memorial Day, Andy speaks with veteran and politician, Jason Kander. Jason has long been candid about his experiences with PTSD but also how post-traumatic growth is possible. He and Andy talk about challenging assumptions about what’s appropriate to feel, accepting help, and how COVID-19 has been so traumatizing for people. They also discuss voter suppression and the importance of making sure everyone has a voice in American politics. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt, and find Jason at @JasonKander on Twitter and @jasonkander on Instagram. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. You can become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask Andy questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Check out our fantastic show sponsor this week! Teladoc provides access to certified doctors from the comfort and safety of home. Register now at https://www.teladoc.com/ Here are some other important resources from today’s show: Learn more about protecting voting rights and support the work of Let America Vote here: www.letamericavote.org Check out Veteran’s Community Project and find out how you can support their work here: https://www.veteranscommunityproject.org/ If you or a loved one is in crisis you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline here: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ Jason’s book Outside the Wire is available now: https://jasonkander.com/outsidethewire/ Jason created a podcast with some incredible resources for talking to friends and family across political divides. Check it out here: https://crooked.com/podcast-series/majority-54/ Jason mentioned the book Tribe by Sebastian Junger. You can find it here: http://www.sebastianjunger.com/tribe-by-sebastian-junger   We hope you want to listen to In the Bubble with your family, or talk to them after you listen about what you’ve heard. We want families to be able to discuss this content across the generations, and we are producing it with that in mind. To that end, we’re going to start to offer a discussion prompt based on one central theme from each new episode, broken down with developmentally appropriate age bands to keep the conversation going.    Discussion Prompt: Be Open To Talking   Jason Kander says in today’s episode, “everybody's going through this right now together and it's difficult in a lot of different ways. But you’ve just got to be really open to talking to the people in your lives about it, because you can make a big difference in their life just by talking to them about it.”   For children under 5: What is the hardest thing about our new routines for you?   For children 5-12: It’s important to talk openly about things, especially when they are hard. What is the hardest thing for you about how things have changed since early March when schools closed?   For youth 12-18: Have you talked with any friends about the hardest parts of this new reality? What do your friends say is hardest? What is hardest for you? Sometimes talking openly with people about really hard things can help you and them process them better.   For the 18+ crowd: What’s a particularly challenging change for you over these last couple months, maybe even something you are working through that you are reluctant to talk about, because it’s naturally hard to talk about such things?      To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date.   Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.
Today, Andy and Chelsea Clinton talk about the role of the US in the world as Trump diverges from other world leaders in going it alone in the face of this global pandemic. They also discuss what their parents taught them about America and what they’re telling their own kids. Then, Andy calls author and historian Steven Johnson to put COVID-19 into a global, historical context.  Check out our sponsors for this week’s episode:  Learn about Teledoc at https://www.teladoc.com/ Visit Express VPN and get three months free at https://www.expressvpn.com/bubble Check out Ashford University here: www.ashford.edu/bubble  In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. You can become a member, get exclusive bonus content, and discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Dig into resources mentioned on the show and connect with our guests: Check out In Recovery with Dr. Nzinga Harrison, a new advice show from Lemonada Media about all things addiction: http://www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-recovery/ Check out #opensafely resources and Andy’s joint USA Today Op-Ed here: https://www.open-safely.us/  Read The New Yorker article about Washington State’s COVID-19 communications strategy here: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not Find out more about the Clinton Foundation here: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/ Learn more about Partners in Health and how they are recruiting contact tracers here: https://www.pih.org/coronavirus-response Check out the Too Small to Fail initiative and how the Clinton Foundation is supporting children at http://toosmall.org/ Follow Chelsea Clinton on Twitter @ChelseaClinton  Listen to Steven Johnson’s podcast Fighting Coronavirus here: Wondery.fm/FC  Subscribe to Steven’s other podcast, American Innovations, here: Wondery.fm/AI Read about a world-changing historical epidemic in Steven’s book, Ghost Map: https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Map-Londons-Terrifying-Epidemic/dp/1594482691 For a change of pace, read Enemy of All Mankind, Steven’s latest book here: https://www.amazon.com/Enemy-All-Mankind-Historys-Manhunt/dp/0735211604 Follow Steven Johnson on Twitter @StevenBJohnson
As he detailed in his breakout hit movie The Big Sick, Kumail Nanjiani’s wife Emily is immuno-compromised, and, with COVID-19, that changes everything. The comedian and actor opens up about the feeling of losing control in this crisis, but he and Andy can’t help but laugh their way through even a serious conversation about fear, love, and painful messages from society. Kumail also reveals some incredibly impractical things you can do in isolation.  In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. You can become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask Andy questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Check out Teledoc, our show sponsor this week, at https://www.teladoc.com/. Check out In Recovery with Dr. Nzinga Harrison, a new advice show from Lemonada Media about all things addiction. Premiers May 18 wherever you get your podcasts: http://www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-recovery/ Catch Kumail and Emily on their podcast Staying In with Emily & Kumail here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/staying-in-with-emily-kumail/id1503412182 Can't get enough of Kumail? Watch his brand new movie, The Lovebirds, on Netflix now: https://www.netflix.com/thelovebirds  Watch The Big Sick here: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Sick-Kumail-Nanjiani/dp/B07193L7RD
Today, 18-year-old Zach and his dad talk about how to get broader points of view on the podcast. To that end, they reach out to former congressman and presidential candidate, Beto O’Rourke, to hear how Texas’s approach to COVID-19 is going. Andy and Beto chat about how people’s own experiences dictate their views on the crisis. Then Peter Morley, an advocate for people with chronic illnesses, shares his lens on the crisis. And we hear from fan-favorite, Andy’s mom/Zach’s Nana, who has a special Mother’s Day message. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. You can become a member, get exclusive bonus content, and discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Check out our sponsors for this week’s episode:  Learn more about Teledoc at https://www.teladoc.com/. Visit Laurel Springs at https://laurelsprings.com/bubble/ and get the $300 registration fee waived if you decide to enroll! Host Trymaine Lee and a team of NBC News journalists try to make sense of this extraordinary moment on his podcast Into America. Listen here: https://www.nbcnews.com/intoamerica Want to do more?  Support the work of World Central Kitchen at www.wck.org/donate Support local food bank El Pasoans Fighting Hunger at https://elpasoansfightinghunger.org/  Find Peter Morely and support his advocacy work at https://morethanmysle.com/ and follow him on Twitter @morethanmySLE  Join Beto O’Rourke in supporting Texas food banks at https://poweredxpeople.org/ and follow him on Twitter @BetoORourke  For Mother’s Day, follow Andy’s mom on Twitter @ASlavittsMom
Today, Andy calls journalist and political commentator, Chris Hayes. Chris has been carrying the burden of seeing the pandemic coming long before America began to address it. He had to talk about it before it was real to most people and is still talking about it now that many have grown weary. They chat about how Chris thinks about his job in the news these days and the emotional toll it’s taking. They also scrap about coffee mugs. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. You can become a member, get exclusive bonus content, and discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Check out Teledoc, our show sponsor this week, at https://www.teladoc.com/. Find Chris Hayes at https://www.msnbc.com/all (All In with Chris Hayes)
Andy seeks out a conversation on competency. Things change rapidly in a crisis. When you're in the middle of it, not knowing how everything will turn out can be stomach-churning, and big problems look way easier in hindsight. Having led a major government crisis-response, Andy gets this, and so does Ron Klain, who was the Ebola Czar during the Obama Administration. So, today, they talk about past crises and the best way to respond to today’s challenges. To keep it non-partisan, Andy also speaks to Lanhee Chen, Mitt Romney’s health policy director during his 2012 presidential campaign, who has seen and responded to the COVID-19 crisis on the ground in California and with Washington policymakers. Support this podcast: www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble  https://www.talkspace.com/ (Talkspace: Code BUBBLE for $100 off) www.wck.org/donate (World Central Kitchen) https://twitter.com/hashtag/thebestofus
As President Trump shuts down all immigration as a reaction to COVID-19, Andy calls David Frum, who was by George W. Bush’s side after 9-11. How will globalization, public debate, and democracy itself fare in the context of a pandemic? Frum argues that America’s role in the global community has never been more important. He also has a clear view on the impact of this time on the coming election.  Support this podcast https://www.teladoc.com/ (Teledoc) https://www.theatlantic.com/author/david-frum/ (David Frum’s work at The Atlantic) https://amzn.to/3aWa7hC (David Frum’s upcoming book: Trumpocalypse) https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/kff-health-tracking-poll-late-april-2020/ (KFF Coronavirus polling)
In this episode of In the Bubble, Andy takes questions from some very special listeners: Kids! Andy chats with four different families about COVID-19, how to stay safe, and what comes next. Comedian Jim Gaffigan and his family, Tamera Mowry-Housley and Adam Housely and their kids, and stars of the YouTube channels Ryan’s World and What’s Up Moms all joined in for this fun and extra family-friendly episode.  Support this podcast https://www.teladoc.com/ (Teledoc) https://www.youtube.com/user/WhatsUpMOMS (What’s Up Moms) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChGJGhZ9SOOHvBB0Y4DOO_w (Ryan’s World) https://www.youtube.com/user/jimgaffigancomic/featured (Jim Gaffigan) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Lnm2KU5l-oaLT5evEPn5g (The Housely Life)
Tina Fey joins Andy to talk about comedy during Corona-times and other unfunny periods in recent history. They chat about stuck-at-home life (with a cameo from Tina’s daughter), SNL in isolation, and how American culture is being re-shaped. Then, Andy shares fresh polling from leading health care pollster Mollyann Brodie about how Americans are really feeling. Support this podcast https://www.teladoc.com/ https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/episodes (SNL At Home episodes) https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/photos/snl-at-home-bumper-photos-0/3742317 (Mary Ellen Mathews SNL At Home Bumpers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvpXZxXWZU (Tina Fey sheet cake bit on SNL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mLsU46h8IA (Will Ferrell American flag speedo on SNL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0 (The Shining as a romantic comedy) https://vm.tiktok.com/vy4RUf/ (TikTok “Now you go to online school”) https://actorsfund.org/ https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/kff-health-tracking-poll-late-april-2020/ (Kaiser Family Foundation Polling) https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/27/those-whove-lost-work-or-pay-virus-still-broadly-support-stay-at-home-measures/ (Philip Bump article in the Washington Post about support for stay at home measures)
We often talk about COVID-19 as if it’s an attack, something our country’s top national security experts prepare for their entire careers. So, this week Andy calls national security expert and Harvard professor, Juliette Kayyem, to talk about how to prepare. They discuss the evolution of national security from 9/11 to Hurricane Katrina to right now, and how the American response to COVID-19 measures up. https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ (Patreon) https://www.teladoc.com/ https://www.amazon.com/Security-Mom-Life-Protecting-Homeland/dp/1476733759 https://www.theatlantic.com/author/juliette-kayyem/
With so many opinions on what we should do next in response to the Coronavirus, Andy focuses on what we really know and what we don’t know— a much longer list. To do this, Andy sits down with 538’s Nate Silver who built an industry on predictions and has been focused on what the data says about the spread of COVID-19, what’s working, and how we get back to normal life. https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble https://www.teladoc.com/ https://art19.com/shows/coronavirus-daily-briefing https://www.expressvpn.com/bubble https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-growth-equation-podcast/id1505257676 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-immunity.html (Marc Lipsitch article about immunity) https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/new-york-coronavirus-curve/ (Nate Silver article about testing)
With Trump set to make a declaration on “opening the country,” Andy decided to call someone he’s never met but who knows how the president operates: Anthony Scaramucci. Intended as a short conversation, all the rules went out the window once it got going. Andy also asked Mooch to tell listeners how to interpret the financial situation, Congressional actions, and the federal budget. Also, free financial advice!  www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble (Patreon) https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death (Short story: The Masque of the Red Death, Poe) https://tinyurl.com/y7o4autl (Book: Firefighting: Financial Crisis and its Lessons) https://tinyurl.com/ydfft2pq (Book: The Richest Man in Babylon) https://tinyurl.com/y8f773ot (Book: The Great Influenza) https://tinyurl.com/y6wxrwk8 (Book: These Truths, Lepore)
Rituals are being broken as Andy notes this is the time of year when we’re normally physically connected to our families and neighbors. So he calls his old Obama colleague former U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy who spent his time in the Administration focusing on the epidemic of loneliness. Andy freely admits he once didn’t understand Vivek’s message but now seeks his advice for a world of forced isolation. Entrepreneur and friend Trevor Price talks about an initiative to help underserved communities, but Andy also wants to get some advice from his 11-year-old daughter Catie. https://www.kinsahealth.co/ https://healthweather.us/?mode=Atypical https://art19.com/shows/coronavirus-daily-briefing https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ https://tradeoffs.org/ www.nyccovid19.org https://unitedstatesofcare.org/ https://www.amazon.com/Together-Connection-Performance-Greater-Happiness/dp/0062913298 (Vivek’s Book)
In this mini-episode Andy wants to hear what’s going on in Italy. So he calls CBS’ Rome correspondent Seth Doane, a COVID-19 patient quarantined in Rome. They talk about what the US can learn from Italy, the war-like experience of fighting a pandemic, and the bright spots of unity that Seth has witnessed in hard-hit Italian communities. https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ (Patreon) https://tinyurl.com/unqd8ga (CBS News, lessons from Italy)
Andy talks with Governor Phil Murphy about the type of wartime leadership needed in New Jersey as the death toll rises in his state, and we hear a rare interaction where Andy and the governor mobilize resources together to save lives. Taking inspiration from courageous leaders from world history, Andy and Phil calmly discuss how to lead through this pandemic. 18-year old Zach brings us a surprising fact, and the case is made for masks as a part of daily life. https://www.kinsahealth.co/ https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ (Patreon) https://covid19.nj.gov/  https://covid19.nj.gov/volunteer https://masks4all.co/
Andy brings you into his bubble, as promised, by sharing his call (with permission) with Minnesota’s U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar. They discuss her husband John’s COVID-19 recovery, what an election might be like during a national health crisis, and how the Congress needs to support Americans during the economic crisis. https://www.patreon.com/inthebubble (Patreon)
Here we are, in the midst of a global pandemic. How do we get through it? For starters, we find the helpers. This week, we meet host Andy Slavitt and his teenage son Zach, recording from their studio (er, home office) in Minneapolis. In many respects, the moment the NBA suspended its season is the moment America realized COVID-19 was a real threat. So for his first episode, Andy is joined by Mark Cuban, Dallas Mavericks owner and Shark Tank superstar. Mark and Andy issue a call to action for everyone to help first and ask questions later and talk candidly about COVID-19’s impact on small businesses, the stock market, hospitals, and basketball. https://whileathome.org/ https://www.patreon.com/inthebubble (Patreon) https://bit.ly/2wSZSwD (The NIAID / Dr. Fauci) https://twitter.com/hashtag/thebestofus
First episode launches Wednesday, April 1. Subscribe now for weekly episodes. https://www.patreon.com/inthebubble Patreon
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ID17422151

Hi there. Thank you for this episode. I am fully dependent on TPN (IV nutrition) and have a compromised immune system. I fully understand the triggers & fear of contracting this virus. I’m absolutely strict about how my family deals with packages, going out & maintaining social distancing. No one, other than my immediate family, has entered my home since mid-March. Not even my nurse. It’s exhausting & sad. Thanks again for keeping us informed. Stay safe, y’all!

May 26th
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Syl Grant

The discussion about when things open up, one thing that was missed is the people at home following carefully to what is going on. I personally won't eat meat ever again but another reason is the cost to both animals and humans to process that meat. Humans working in those plants are being treated worse than the animals. I can't be alone so I fully expect people will start eating less meat or not at all. There is a yuck factor too when imagining how these people are able to pass this virus around so easily, all while chopping pieces of pigs into chops. Most people who imagine that and also prepare food for their children may finally get around to researching other sources of protein which are actually much cheaper for the consumer then meat products.

May 10th
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Lisa Reimer

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May 5th
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Doug Stewart

I can count on one hand, the number of NBA owners I have respect for, Mark Cuban is one. Good show, Andy!😎

Apr 9th
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Louie Saul

Loved the episode, highly insignificant and not all doom and gloom. Keep it up!

Apr 6th
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Apr 3rd
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