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Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.
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This is an unlocked bonus episode from our Patreon Exclusive archive. You can listen to 60+bonus episodes by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this insightful episode, Rachel delves into the multifaceted nature of loss and grief, offering a deeper understanding of the various types they may encounter. Rachel discusses how former cult members often feel displaced in traditional grief support groups, as their experiences of loss are unique and complex. She aims to shed light on these different forms of grief, helping listeners identify and navigate their emotions. Rachel's compassionate insights aim to provide clarity and validation for those grappling with complex emotions, helping them find a way forward through their unique grief journeys. Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this exclusive Patreon bonus episode, Rachel delves into the intriguing world of superstitions, exploring their historical and cultural roots and their impact on human behavior. The discussion centers around the fear of Friday the 13th, a day steeped in myth and superstition, and the psychological mechanisms that perpetuate these beliefs. The episode also explores the psychology of superstitions, including cognitive biases that lead individuals to create false correlations and the role of social conformity in maintaining these beliefs. Rachel shares personal anecdotes and cultural examples, illustrating how deeply embedded superstitions can influence behavior and decision-making. Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - YouTube: www.youtube.com/indoctrinationpodcast Your support is essential to keep the show going. Thank you for being a part of our community.
In this compelling follow-up episode, Rachel welcomes back Jennifer Rajala, a former MLM leader turned advocate, who bravely shares her journey of disentangling from the manipulative world of multilevel marketing and coaching groups. Jennifer picks up where she left off last week and delves into the insidious overlap between MLMs and the coaching industry, revealing how individuals are often encouraged to invest in self-help and coaching as a means to succeed in MLMs, only to find themselves deeper in a cycle of dependency and financial loss. Today, Jennifer is dedicated to educating others about the dangers of MLMs and coaching scams, working with nonprofits and schools to introduce anti-fraud curricula. Her story is a powerful testament to resilience and the importance of critical thinking, serving as a beacon of hope for those seeking to escape similar entanglements. Listen to part 1 of this conversation here: https://on.soundcloud.com/2ohohprXUFVWgUTm6 Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this eye-opening episode, Rachel speaks with Jennifer Raiala, a former state government worker who found herself ensnared in the world of multi-level marketing (MLM) with Arbonne. Jennifer shares her journey from being a child protective services investigator to becoming a leader in an MLM, only to face the harsh realities and financial burdens that followed. She recounts the emotional toll of being trapped in a system that promised financial freedom but delivered financial strain and disillusionment. Jennifer reveals the manipulative tactics used within MLMs, including the pressure to recruit and the deceptive nature of supposed "business opportunities." She discusses her experience with coaching groups that further exploited her commitment, leading her to question her involvement and ultimately, her exit from the organization. Now dedicated to educating others, Jennifer works with nonprofits and local school districts to introduce anti-fraud and anti-scam curricula. Her story serves as a cautionary tale and a beacon of hope for those looking to break free from similar situations. Follow Jennifer to learn more about her story: https://linktr.ee/jenniferrajala Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination - Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this enlightening bonus episode, Rachel explores the complexities of engaging in conversations with individuals holding differing viewpoints, especially during the holiday season. As families and friends gather to celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukkah, and other festivities, Rachel addresses the challenge of cognitive dissonance—the discomfort experienced when holding conflicting beliefs or values. Rachel discusses the impact of echo chambers, misinformation, and the effect of online disinhibition on our ability to engage in meaningful dialogue. She offers practical advice on setting boundaries, active listening, and using "I" statements to foster constructive conversations. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this captivating episode, Rachel welcomes Lynn Smith Gregory, a direct descendant of Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon Church. Raised in a devout Mormon family in Utah, Lynn shares her deeply personal journey of leaving the church at the age of 19 after uncovering unsettling truths about her family's legacy and the religion's history. Lynn recounts the immense pressure to live up to her family's revered status within the Mormon community, grappling with perfectionism and a turbulent family environment. Now residing in Savannah, Georgia, Lynn is working on her memoir, "We Were Smiths," which explores the profound impact of leaving the Mormon Church as a Smith. She offers insights into the characteristics of cult-like control within the religion, highlighting the church's insistence on being the sole path to truth and salvation, and the challenges faced by those who choose to leave. Learn more about Lyn and her work here: https://www.lynsmithgregory.com/ Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination - Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this revealing episode, Rachel sits down with Erik Rojas, a former program leader and senior staff member at Landmark Worldwide, the infamous large group awareness training organization. Erik shares his journey within Landmark, detailing the intense pressures and abusive practices he witnessed and experienced. Erik explains how his commitment and drive were exploited, leading him to work grueling hours with little pay while being subjected to physical and psychological abuse by his superiors. His story serves as a cautionary tale for those seeking transformation through large-group awareness training, highlighting the need for critical awareness and self-care. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this insightful episode, Rachel delves into the controversial history of Synanon, a group founded in 1958 by Charles Diedrich Sr. Originally established as an alternative to Alcoholics Anonymous, Synanon devolved into a notorious organization known for its aggressive "attack therapy" and coercive control tactics. Rachel explores the group's transformation from a rehabilitation center into a cult-like entity, marked by violence, manipulation, and psychological abuse. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this compelling episode, Rachel speaks with Lynn Short, a former member of the New Gnostic Society, to explore her 17-year journey within the modern occult group. Lynn recounts her experiences as a missionary and the intense pressures she faced, including the doctrine's emphasis on sexual practices and the psychological control exerted over members. She candidly discusses the challenges of overcoming religious trauma and the path to healing that followed her departure in 2018. Lynn shares the personal and relational impact of her involvement in the group, highlighting the strain it placed on her marriage and the eventual realization of being used as free labor. Her resilience and determination to understand and dismantle the indoctrination she endured offer valuable lessons for those seeking liberation from controlling systems. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience
In this special post-election episode, Rachel welcomes Andrew Pledger to discuss the emotional aftermath of the recent election from a survivor's perspective. Andrew, a cult survivor and advocate, shares his unique insights into the intersection of Christian fundamentalism and the current political climate. Raised in an independent fundamental Baptist church, Andrew's journey of self-discovery and escape from high-control environments informs his work in raising awareness through his podcasts, "Surviving Bob Jones University" and "Beyond Exposing Fundamentalism." Rachel and Andrew explore the common triggers and fears that have emerged in this unprecedented election season, emphasizing the importance of community and self-care for those affected by high-control groups. The conversation offers guidance and support to those grappling with feelings of isolation and anxiety in hopes that listeners will find solace in community and shared healing. Connect with Andrew and learn more about his work at: https://andrewpledger.mypixieset.com/links Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this timely episode, Rachel addresses the upcoming U.S. presidential election and its impact on cult survivors. She explores the psychological parallels between political dynamics and cult-like behaviors, focusing on the anxiety and fear triggered by the current political climate. Rachel discusses the rise of Christian nationalism and its influence on American culture, highlighting the importance of understanding these movements for those affected by high-control groups. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination- Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
Returning guest Nikki G. is a Certified Trauma Recovery Coach who helps survivors recover and thrive after Religious Trauma & Cult involvement. She is also a survivor of multiple narcissistic relationships, religious trauma, as well as a former member of multiple cultic communities. Nikki is the CEO of Nikki G Speaks LLC, which exists to support survivors with individual coaching services, an online community, and other various forms of psycho-education related to religious trauma, narcissistic abuse, and cult involvement. Nikki is also a co-host of the podcast “Surviving the Black Church” where she and her co-hosts delve into conversations regarding religious trauma in the Black Church. She and another colleague have just recently founded The Black Religious Trauma Recovery Network, which is a resource to educate, support, and empower black religious trauma survivors. Nikki also sits on the board of directors for Tears of Eden.In this eye-opening episode, Rachel and Nikki delve into the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its impact on society, politics, and spirituality. Nikki provides a comprehensive overview of NAR's goals, including the controversial Seven Mountain Mandate, which seeks to influence key societal spheres such as government, education, and media. She warns of the potential dangers of dominionism and spiritual colonization, urging listeners to stay informed and vigilant. As they discuss Project 2025 and the rise of political figures like Mike Johnson, Nikki highlights the importance of recognizing the underlying agendas driving these movements. She encourages listeners to research and understand the origins of these ideologies to make informed decisions about their beliefs and political actions.She emphasizes the need for survivors to reclaim their agency and voice, providing hope and guidance for those seeking to break free from controlling systems. Connect with Nikki G. and learn more about her work at: www.nikkigspeaks.com. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination- Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Patreon: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Webinars & Lectures: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this compelling episode, Rachel introduces Dr. John Hunter, a South African researcher and lecturer, to explore the psychological and neurobiological impacts of Large Group Awareness Trainings (LGATs). Dr. Hunter offers a unique perspective on how LGATs can trigger manic-like episodes and psychosis. Rachel and Dr. Hunter discuss the psychological and social dynamics within LGATs, including the use of authority, social proof, and peripheral route persuasion to influence participants. They explore the intense stress and emotional highs and lows engineered by these trainings, drawing parallels to abusive interpersonal relationships and the addictive nature of the dopamine-driven states they induce. Connect with Dr. John Hunter and learn more about his work at www.johnhunterphd.com Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this insightful bonus episode, Rachel delves into the multifaceted nature of loss and grief, offering a deeper understanding of the various types they may encounter. Rachel discusses how former cult members often feel displaced in traditional grief support groups, as their experiences of loss are unique and complex. She aims to shed light on these different forms of grief, helping listeners identify and navigate their emotions. Rachel's compassionate insights aim to provide clarity and validation for those grappling with complex emotions, helping them find a way forward through their unique grief journeys. Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this enlightening episode, Rachel continues her conversation with Dan Shaw, an esteemed psychotherapist renowned for his work on traumatic narcissism and cult recovery. Building on their previous discussion, Dan delves deeper into the concept of traumatic narcissism, sharing insights from his groundbreaking books, "Traumatic Relational Systems of Subjugation" and "Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery." He outlines eight key behaviors of traumatizing narcissists, offering valuable guidance for individuals who may be entangled in such relationships and for mental health professionals assisting them. Dan discusses the manipulative tactics of narcissists, such as intimidation, belittling, and seductive charm, which create a cycle of coercive control. He explores the psychological impact of these behaviors, including dissociation and weaponized suffering, and highlights the importance of recognizing these patterns to break free from their influence. Rachel and Dan also address the challenges of navigating relationships with narcissists, emphasizing the need for awareness and support in reclaiming one's autonomy and sanity. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the complexities of power dynamics in relationships and the significance of understanding the underlying motivations of narcissistic behavior. Dan's insights provide a beacon of hope and clarity for those seeking to understand and overcome the effects of narcissistic abuse. Connect with Dan Shaw: www.danielshawlcsw.com Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
In this captivating episode, Rachel Bernstein welcomes back Dan Shaw, a distinguished psychotherapist and expert in psychoanalysis specializing in narcissistic abuse and cult survivor recovery. Dan shares his transformative journey from being an actor and missionary to leaving a cultic organization in 1994 and becoming a mental health professional. His extensive training and personal experiences have made him a prominent figure in the field, earning him the prestigious Margaret Singer Award for his work on undue influence. The episode delves into the intricacies of traumatic narcissism, a theory Dan introduced to the field, which he explores in his acclaimed books. Rachel and Dan discuss the chilling characteristics of narcissistic leaders, the seductive allure of their personalities, and the profound impact they have on their followers. Dan provides insights into recognizing these traits and the importance of boundaries in protecting oneself from manipulative individuals. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the dynamics of power and control in relationships, whether in cults or personal interactions, and the significance of reclaiming one's voice and autonomy. Dan's upcoming work on traumatic narcissism theory promises to further illuminate these complex issues, offering hope and guidance to those affected by such relationships. Connect with Dan Shaw: Website: www.danielshawlcsw.com Facebook: Daniel Shaw LCSW (Author Page) Listen to Dan's Previous Episodes here: https://on.soundcloud.com/1MPVg41KJQ5hya7p7 Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this exclusive Patreon bonus episode, Rachel explores the nuanced topic of assertiveness, a vital skill for cult survivors. She discusses the challenges faced by cult survivors in reclaiming their voice and setting healthy boundaries. Many survivors struggle with programmed compliance, fear of punishment, difficulty identifying personal needs, and trust issues. These barriers can make it difficult to develop assertiveness, yet it is crucial for rebuilding self-esteem, establishing boundaries, and fostering healthier relationships. Thanks to our supporters on Patreon for making this episode possible!! Connect with Us on Social Media: - Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This week Rachel delves into the intricate world of cult recovery with Dr. Gillie Jenkinson, a UK-accredited psychotherapist specializing in cult studies. Dr. Jenkinson’s journey is not just professional but deeply personal, having spent seven years in a Bible-based cult in the 1970s. Her experience and extensive research culminate in her acclaimed book, "Walking Free from the Trauma of Coercive Cultic and Spiritual Abuse." Dr. Jenkinson’s story is one of resilience and dedication. After leaving the cult, she grappled with the remnants of the cult mindset for 14 years. It wasn’t until she received exit counseling and pursued a career in psychotherapy that she began to understand and heal from her experiences. This personal journey has profoundly shaped her professional approach, making her insights invaluable for anyone affected by cultic abuse. One of the highlights of our conversation is Dr. Jenkinson’s discussion about her book, "Walking Free." This workbook is a practical guide for recovery and growth, based on her doctoral research and nearly three decades of experience. It addresses the psychological impact of cultic abuse and provides tools for healing. The book is not only a resource for survivors but also for therapists who work with them. For information about Dr. Jenkinson's work visit her website at: www.hopevalleycounselling.com Find more info about the DeCult Conference here: www.decult.net Connect with Us on Social Media: -Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
Scott Homan was raised in the north woods of Wisconsin and found his voice through music and film. His documentary, Witness Underground, highlights the struggles and triumphs of a music community influenced by a cult. Scott shares his journey from being raised in a restrictive environment to discovering the power of self-expression and creativity as a path to healing. Rachel and Scott delve into the emotional and psychological impact of shunning, the manipulation tactics used by cults, and the importance of finding one’s identity outside of a controlling group. Scott also discusses his experiences in Vietnam, his work with Banana Island Films, and his upcoming participation in the DeCult Conference in New Zealand. For more information about the Decult Conference, visit: www.decult.net For more info on Scott's film "Witness Underground" go to: https://www.witnessunderground.com Connect with Us on Social Media: -Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination - Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast - Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast - YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Have you ever felt like someone was manipulating you, making you question your own reality? If so, you might have experienced DARVO - Denial, Attack, Reverse Victim, and Offender. Abusers use this manipulative tactic to deny their wrongdoing, attack the victim's character, and reverse the roles of victim and offender. In this Patreon bonus episode, a continuation from pt.1, Rachel dives deeper into this concept, providing real-life examples and practical advice on how to cope with it. Thank you for your continued support as a subscriber and supporter of the show. Your partnership is invaluable, and we are pleased to offer you these bonus episodes as a token of our appreciation. Connect with Us on Social Media: Twitter: www.twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft Share Your Feedback With Us Here: forms.gle/tz8eQwZorVNWWyQq6 Your reviews and ratings on Spotify and Apple/iTunes are greatly appreciated and help the show reach a wider audience.
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Web Weber

I have tried to play your podcast but I keep getting an error and it won't play on Castbox and I can't find it on the other podcast players you mentioned. Is this still an active podcast???

Jul 25th
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Joshua Barley

Oh yay. I'm going to really enjoy this one. I have Janja's books Bounded Choice, Escaping Utopia, and Take Back Your Life.

Nov 29th
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