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Author: Phil Town & Danielle Town

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Phil Town is a hedge fund manager and author of 3 New York Times best-selling investment books, Invested, Rule #1, and Payback Time. On the InvestED podcast, Phil and his daughter Danielle shine a light on the successful investing strategies that gurus like Warren Buffett have used for 80 years. Listen in for a great stock market education on basics, learn how to invest on your own, and follow along with real-time examples and investing tips from week to week. Subscribe and leave a review. Questions? Email questions@investedpodcast.com.

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488- Either Way I Win

488- Either Way I Win

2024-11-1607:27

We all know the ever-popular key to financial success in the 21st century: just get your coffee/avocado toast at home and quit wasting all of your money! While there’s something to be said for limiting unnecessary impulse buys, the benefit of small wins in our daily lives isn’t something that we should overlook.  While the #1 rule of investing is “don’t lose money,” it’s important for each investor to decide what “losing” money means to them. Join Danielle as she checks in for the beginning of this holiday season and talks through her idea of what it means to set yourself up for success no matter what. For a better understanding of your own investing profile, click here to take the Rule #1 Investing Personalities Quiz:  https://bit.ly/468F8eW Topics Discussed: Gift giving “Either way” account Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We’re back! After several weeks away from the podcast studio, our hosts are back together to cover their tumultuous October. From incapacitating sickness in Europe to lively nuptials in Belo Horizonte, all set against the backdrop of one of the wildest election seasons in recent US history, it’s been an eventful autumn. Phil and Danielle also speculate on the potential economic forecast under the next administration, and what deficit spending from either party could mean for future markets. Following years of high inflation, what results could more government spending bring in the years ahead? Valuation is a critical part of the investment process. For help with calculating a company’s market capitalization so that you can make smarter investing choices, click here for your free copy of Understanding Market Capitalization: https://bit.ly/44p1xE9 Topics Discussed: The Algarve COVID-19 Brazilian weddings Chuckwalla Valley Raceway Porsche Owners Club The 47th presidential administration Government spending Inflation hedges Nixon and the gold standard Carter and interest rates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
If there’s one thing that can be said for certain in the closing months of 2024, it’s got to be that we’re seeing the fulfillment of an apocryphal Chinese curse: “may you live in interesting times.” Although global events like wars in Ukraine and the Middle East have shaken the stock market, Phil argues that uncertainty in the investment climate presents the best opportunities for investing. Tune in to this episode of InvestED where Phil and Danielle discuss when and if you should invest in an uncertain investing environment, how to take advantage of lower prices, and how to find antifragile companies. Learn where to find antifragile companies with Phil Town’s Ultimate Stock Market Crash Survival Guide. Get your free copy of the guide now: https://bit.ly/3xNXFlf Topics Discussed: Investing with uncertainty Finding antifragile companies Markets responding to the war in Ukraine Depressions and recessions Inflation and buying power Resources Discussed: Ray Dalio signaling 100 year depression Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As we rapidly approach November, one topic seems to suck up all of the oxygen in terms of current events—and it’s not Thanksgiving. No one knows what will happen after the election, but given the razor-thin margins and the heated political climate in America, turbulence is likely. To succeed in investing long-term, focus on buying solid companies that meet Rule #1 criteria and are “on sale.” Many people struggle with this due to stress, market fluctuations, or other distractions. Managing your emotions is key to making rational investment decisions, which depends on how well you take care of yourself. Stress and fear lead to poor choices, so practice staying mindful, whether through meditation, exercise, or reading, to keep a clear head and avoid emotional decisions. On this Vault episode pulled from the last presidential election cycle in the US, Phil and Danielle discuss the negative effects of stress on one’s investing practice and how mitigating that stress can improve your well-being in addition to your portfolio. For more help with avoiding costly investing mistakes, click here to get a free copy of 10 Do’s and Don’ts of Successful Investing: https://bit.ly/3XyEDbD Topics Discussed: COVID-19 Li Liu Self-improvement and self-discovery Ralph Lauren Tesla Circle of competence Dealing with stress Transcendental meditation  Resources Discussed: The Seven Storey Mountain For Love of the Game Turtles All the Way Down Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It’s a tricky practice for value investors to navigate through the sea of potential investments. While large, successful businesses can be tempting at the right price, the steps taken to achieve or maintain that success might come with negative environmental and/or societal costs. Given the global dominance of some of the big tech companies in 2024, it might seem like the Amazons and Googles of the world are here to stay. However, issues like misplaced investments, anti-competitive behavior, and a myopic view of the future have seen industry giants topple in the past. This week, Phil and Danielle grapple with the growth dilemma faced by successful companies, and what that can mean for your portfolio as a value investor. To see more sustained growth in your own investments, click here for your free copy of the Rule of 72 Cheat Sheet: https://bit.ly/47awVb6 Topics Discussed: The American Dream Investing in “big” companies City life vs small town life Competition and ethics Sprouts TikTok Resources Discussed: The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
For any publicly traded company, the bottom line is going to be the driving factor in every major decision that gets made at the corporate level.  With US tax rates fluctuating between administrations and shake-ups in the Eurozone, it can be like a game of cat and mouse between governments seeking to collect taxes and the companies doing everything they can to avoid those taxes. As stakeholders in a business, investors don’t just own a stock—we own a portion of the actions that are taken by that company.  With the rise of the internet and easier access to up-to-date information around the world, the social component of investing has become a major factor for many in the market. In this continuation of last week’s topic, Phil and Danielle discuss the headquarter dilemma that some corporations are wrestling with and weigh the costs and benefits of activism in the corporate sphere. If you’d like to gauge your own investing knowledge and learn how to improve your investing practice, click here to take the Rule #1 Investing IQ Quiz:  https://bit.ly/3XL7URR Topics Discussed: Corporate tax rates Companies moving out of the US Apple’s Ireland woes Business ethics in investing DEI initiatives/reversals Bud Light controversy ESG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
482- Tax Dodgers

482- Tax Dodgers

2024-09-1240:09

Cryptocurrency, as a volatile and emerging technology, is used by millions around the world. Some of those users are trying to find security amidst unstable financial situations, while others seeking to avoid government oversight or conduct more nefarious activities. Its decentralized nature offers both opportunities and risks. The ultra-wealthy, facing heavy taxation, often protect their assets through investments, relocating funds, or even engaging in deception. Meanwhile, multinational corporations hold immense power, frequently manipulating markets and governments, creating widespread challenges for economies and individuals. Staying abreast of developments in this nascent field is beneficial to investors, as the volatility in crypto markets can distort valuations and complicate the search for long-term investments. In this week’s episode, Phil and Danielle delve into the crypto scene and discuss how the tech sector seems to always be a step ahead of regulators. For further resources in identifying a company’s long-term trajectory, click here for your free copy of The 5 Moats Investment Guide: https://bit.ly/3Kmb33J Topics Discussed: Daily dives into trade publications Tether Goldcoin Apple’s Ireland tax troubles Coach/Michael Kors merger Resources Discussed: WSJ NYT Barron’s All-In Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Debt plays a significant role in determining the value of a company. But how can you accurately assess the worth of a business you're interested in when it's burdened with debt? In last week’s Vault episode, Phil and Danielle explored this issue through the lens of Liberty Media Corporation’s acquisition of Formula One Racing. Building on that discussion, they take a deeper dive into using the 10 cap formula to uncover a company’s true value—debt included—and help investors make smarter decisions. They also touch on the inherent unpredictability of investing, using Tesla’s past and future as a prime example of the uncertainty you should always anticipate. For some Rule #1 tips on dealing with debt in your own financial life, don’t miss your free copy of our Get Out of Debt Checklist: https://bit.ly/3TjolSK Topics Discussed: Value Investing Factoring debt into investment opportunities The 3 Fs of shorting Unpredictability in investing Resources Discussed: InvestED by Danielle and Phil Town Investing Lessons from Formula 1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
When you invest in a business, do you really know who’s pulling the strings? Are you aware of the leadership team and how their choices could significantly influence the outcome of your investment? Take Formula 1, for example. Owned by Liberty Media Corporation, it stands out as a rare opportunity for sports fans to invest in the sporting world. But is it a wise addition to your portfolio? Phil and Danielle explore the increasing popularity of Formula One and discuss the factors that could make stocks like this a good fit for your investment strategy. They break down the first step of their investment approach, using Formula One's background as a case study to demonstrate why it’s essential to fully understand the business behind any stock before making a purchase. If you want a greater degree of certainty with your next investment, download The Four Ms for Successful Investing for help finding the right business at the right price: https://bit.ly/3LhVUAR Topics Discussed: Warren Buffett’s investing strategies Value investing Real-life investing Investing in Trusted Management Formula 1 Stock Resources Discussed: The Innovation Stack Bill Ackman’s 8 Principles Phil’s Go-To Investing Checklist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
479- Buy It for Life

479- Buy It for Life

2024-08-2310:32

In an era of fast fashion and planned obsolescence, companies that stand behind their products in the long run seem to few and far between. A company’s warranty policy can be enlightening as both a consumer and an investor, and can also inform us about the customer base in that industry. With some businesses updating their former “lifetime” warranties to cover shorter periods of time, how can we know whether those changes are due to declining quality or potential abuse from customers trying to take advantage? Join Danielle as she takes a look at a new policy from one of her favorite companies, as well as some other examples from well-known companies, and what that means for the value investor. If you’re in the early stages of your investing journey, click here for a free copy of The Complete Guide to Investing for Beginners: https://bit.ly/3MBzewf Topics Discussed: lululemon warranty policy change Aldi Dr. Martens Patagonia return/repair policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
478: Bank OZK

478: Bank OZK

2024-08-1326:23

Investing in a great business can sometimes feel like a personal relationship, and much in the same way as breakups can be incredibly difficult, making the decision to exit a position can cause the same doubt and heartbreak as splitting with a romantic partner. Likewise, the same issues that can arise in interpersonal relationships–keeping secrets, communication breakdowns, divergent goals–can lead to deterioration of trust and change the dynamics of what would otherwise be a long-term investment. It is critical for successful value investors to have the ability to reevaluate positions when new information comes to light, regardless of their prior feelings about a given company. This episode of InvestED finds Phil and Danielle offering a candid analysis of recent developments in Phil’s own investments, and what lessons can be learned when you’re buying into a business with the objective of holding it through the ups and downs that come over the years. Whether you’re seeking a new company to buy or deciding whether an existing investment is staying true to your initial assessment, get your free copy of the Must Have Investing Checklist to avoid unnecessary risk in your portfolio: https://bit.ly/49bSWZ7 Topics Discussed: Paris Olympics Athletic sponsorships Bank OZK concerns Difficulty in reevaluating positions VIX Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
At the end of the 1970s and the early 1980s, a decade of financial instability and high inflation rates led Warren Buffett to ponder the correct path forward for Berkshire Hathaway in his letters to shareholders. His solutions in those years could hold some valuable information for investors as we find ourselves once again in turbulent times. While the financial, societal, and cultural contexts have drastically changed over the course of three and a half decades, the underlying business principles and inherent behavioral characteristics can offer insights into how wise investors can find success during times of uncertainty in the modern world. This Vault episode offers us a glimpse into both the recent and not-so-recent past as Danielle considers how a post-pandemic world can benefit from Buffett’s wisdom following one of the most volatile decades of the 20th century.  For help with protecting your investments in unstable markets, get your free copy of the Rule #1 Inflation-Ready Checklist: https://bit.ly/3yyrDdS Topics Discussed: Berkshire Hathaway shareholder letters Inflation in the 70s/80s Indexing investments to inflation Investing into companies with little debt Prioritizing gains in purchasing power over earnings Post-housing bubble concerns related to 30 years prior Anti-fragility Resources Discussed: DanielleTown.com Buffett’s 1979 letter Buffett’s 1980 letter Buffett’s 1981 letter Buffett’s 1983 letter Buffett’s 2010 letter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
476- One Only

476- One Only

2024-08-0135:04

Investing in companies that interest you can be more engaging and rewarding on a personal level, but it may not always align with long-term financial success. A core aspect of value investing lies in identifying companies that are undervalued but have strong potential for future growth, even if their business is less fascinating. Additionally, aligning investments with personal values and the way you see the world ensures that your portfolio reflects your beliefs and principles. With a limited lifetime portfolio, it’s crucial to balance passion-driven investments with those that have a solid track record of stability and growth. It makes sense that many people are drawn to flashy consumer-facing businesses, but those aren’t necessarily the best move for every investor. In this continuation of the utility of expert networks, Phil and Danielle discuss how and why value investors might place restrictions on their research process in order to find the best companies to buy, even if it doesn’t fully match their personal passions. If you’re searching for the next business to add to your portfolio, click here for an assortment of Rule #1 investment calculators that can help you identify key metrics in your research process: https://bit.ly/3A57OeC Topics Discussed: Expert help “Buying companies” vs buying stocks Buffett’s punch card 10-K reports Resources Discussed: SBA SCORE network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
475- Expert Help

475- Expert Help

2024-07-2436:09

When you're trying to learn about an unfamiliar industry as part of your investing process, expert networks can be an incredibly helpful tool for getting started. These networks offer the opportunity to connect with people who have deep knowledge and experience in the industry, providing valuable insights into market trends and key players. However, you're not guaranteed to get completely reliable or unbiased information, so it's important to stay prudent and do your own research to make well-informed investment decisions. The knowledge and advice coming from the person you speak to can depend on the caliber of vetting taking place or the hourly rate you’ll be asked to pay, so the value of these networks will change depending on the specifics of your own investing goals. Listen in as Phil and Danielle discuss the merits and drawbacks of these networks, who they might be best suited to help, and where they’ll be taking this conversation in the weeks to come. To get some expert help directly from Rule #1, make sure to grab your free copy of How to Pick Stocks: The 5-Step Checklist: https://bit.ly/3ros8mU Topics Discussed: Micro-cap companies Expert networks Manipulating financial statements Resources Discussed: SBA SCORE network TEGUS Knowledge Ridge Damodaran on Valuation Understanding Financial Statements Financial Intelligence Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
474- Bad Blood

474- Bad Blood

2024-07-0932:39

Do you ever find yourself in the process of research and realize that you’re only looking for information that supports your hunches? That’s confirmation bias, and it’s a trap that value investors must learn to dodge as they investigate the next business to buy into. With billions of dollars on the line at times, there’s no limit to what some people will do to see their companies achieve success, regardless of the ethics involved. Therefore, one of the best tools we can have in our toolbox is knowing how to spot red flags and steer clear of the deception and fraud that can fool even the savviest investor. In this week’s episode, Phil and Danielle tell us how “being a reporter for your own newspaper” is not only among the more interesting aspects of investing, but why it can safeguard your portfolio and avoid costly missteps. To know exactly where to start when researching companies to invest in, don’t miss out on your free copy of Phil’s Value Investing Cheat Sheet: https://bit.ly/3QeCCje Topics Discussed: Oliver White Confirmation bias Terrence Howard’s questionable math Peer review Scuttlebutt investing Theranos Resources Discussed: Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
To be a well-informed investor, it's crucial to read widely across various topics. This broad knowledge base enhances your ability to make strategic investment decisions by understanding industry dynamics, economic trends, and global events. Investing involves betting on the future of the country where you place your money, making a comprehensive worldview essential for success. While some may dismiss those without formal education in a specific field, unconventional thinking can offer unique and valuable insights in the investment world. On this week’s episode, Phil and Danielle take a look at the frontier economics of Daniel Boone, and how going outside the bounds of investing and finance can be a huge advantage for value investors. To learn how to better plan, save, and invest at any age, click here for a free copy of Rule #1’s guide Map Out Your Investing Journey: https://bit.ly/3DTy4qN Topics Discussed: July 4th The importance of reading broadly Daniel Boone/Westward expansion Buffett on betting against America Confirmation bias Resources Discussed: Last of the Mohicans Irrational Exuberance JRE with Terrence Howard and Eric Weinstein Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
472- Succession

472- Succession

2024-06-2535:32

Despite all the mystique around investing, it essentially boils down to understanding the business you’re investing in and viewing it as owning a part of a real company, not just buying a stock. This tends to hold true no matter the company, the industry, or the state of the market as a whole. Few investors have understood this as well as Warren Buffett and his team at Berkshire Hathaway. With Munger having recently passed and Buffett offering insights into his twilight years as the world’s premier value investing superstar, what does the future hold for BH with the potential for a huge shakeup in leadership? This week finds our hosts back in the “studio” to discuss the question of succession planning at Berkshire Hathaway, and what that means for the value investor and the market at large. For more knowledge from some of the most successful minds in value investing, click here for your free copy of The Best Investors in the World: https://bit.ly/3DhbmIS Topics Discussed: Instagram Dataroma/Gurufocus Li Lu and Timberland Institutional imperative at Berkshire Resources Discussed: The Intelligent Investor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Summer is here, and the season of barbecues, block parties, and swimming pools may actually have more to offer for your investing practice than just a nice break from sitting in front of the computer. In this week’s truncated “tidbit episode,” Danielle reminds us that every conversation can be an opportunity to dig a bit deeper into an unfamiliar subject, and that a good value investor keeps their eyes, ears, and mind open to the wealth of knowledge and perspective that comes from the people in their life. To get a handle on your own investing practice for all 4 seasons, don’t miss out on your free copy of Phil Town’s 12-Month Financial Success Planner: https://bit.ly/45AP6Xh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The market is a thrilling arena for investors in the internet age. Due to the previously unimaginable connectivity afforded to the public by the internet and social media, we’ve seen coordinated efforts by online investors who’ve used message boards to engineer short squeezes against hedge funds, like with the highly-publicized story surrounding GameStop. A short squeeze occurs when investors betting on a stock's decline are forced to buy shares to cover their positions, driving the price up further. This phenomenon was vividly demonstrated with GameStop, causing substantial losses for hedge funds and prompting a regulatory response. In this week’s throwback episode, we check back on the early days of the ongoing GameStop/Reddit saga to see where it all began. To discover your investing weaknesses and learn how to manage your money smarter, click here to take the Rule #1 Investing Personalities Quiz:  https://bit.ly/468F8eW Topics Discussed: Reddit GameStop Robinhood Shorting stocks SEC regulation Resources Discussed: Chamath Palihapitiya interview Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Key Chain

It's just sooo infinitely pleasant, cute, and entertaining to listen to this smart charming dad answering the great questions from his smart charming daughter! And you learn sooo much... It's really hard to stop listening to you! Thank you so much for the great work and for sharing your story with the world!

Jun 13th
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Danny Kirschner

great discussion

Jan 17th
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McLellan MikeandSarah

Teaching our children from a young age how to think about money is critical. Really appreciate the story of 3 'buckets' of money. That's how I was taught...3 empty minute made concentrate cans. Saving, Spending and People in Need. Doesn't have to be fancy. Love the show!!

Oct 19th
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Esteban Saldarriaga

it's 2022, there's 5 teslas in my line of sight. still an overvalued company that every one loves

May 9th
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Jessica

It would be really nice if you could let us know where to start listing for the checklist ...just saying go search for it with in the 300 plus episode is not showing you care about your listeners get all the info. As a new listener, I don’t feel welcomed.

Dec 2nd
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Jon Kischuk

!database C300 xxd

Aug 20th
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Palo L

O I up polo o

Jul 13th
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D Uknow

Please turn down your daughter's mic, and ask her to refrain from interrupting you or your guests. When a thought pops into her head, she seems to blurt it out regardless of whether it needs to be said, and louder than anyone else to ensure that she successfully dominates the conversation. Other than that, great podcast!

Mar 4th
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Rumen Petrov

i thought most people knew about inflation and that just keeping your money under your matress will devalue them. It is true tho that most people have no idea...

Feb 19th
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Maxime Laroche

this podcast is seriously underrated

Aug 6th
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Joe Ramirez

Ok you guys put me on an emotional roller coaster this entire podcast!!! LOL , I've been thinking a lot about airlines as well but now I have no idea hahaha

Apr 15th
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Alex Johnson

Great episode! I appreciate Danielle's willingness to challenge and refine ideas, but it got to be a bit distracting with how much she sidetracked the conversation. Awesome talk, though.

Mar 26th
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Daniel Payne

llll5

Nov 20th
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Matthew W. D'Ambrosi

Great episode. Most of us (the average person) have money locked into our 401Ks. The majority of these options are indexes or the like that you speak of in this episode. What would you suggest we do in terms of our "practice" in the way you teach? The average investor or new investor does not yet have the available capital sitting on the sidelines readily yet to deploy. Thank you! We listeners greatly appreciate you!

Oct 3rd
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Samy

I started to like index funds this year and have invested in many ETFs through M1 Finance. But now I am back to square one with my retirement. Index funds aren't safe,then do we trust the fund managers of Mutual funds to do the right thing?

Sep 30th
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Tom MacDonald

Phil got it mixed up. two dice rolling 10 is much higher probability not lower than 6s or 7s. As a matter of fact the lower the number you are trying to roll the more improbable it becomes. There are five ways to roll a 10 there is only one way to roll snake eyes. the probability drops from 10 to 1

Sep 3rd
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Tom MacDonald

me too!

Aug 29th
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Todd Watts

I really liked this episode. Informative, in a relaxed and not rushed manner. Looking forward to the next episode.

Jul 22nd
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Luis Paz

If I were a sentimental guy, this episode would have me in tears. This is exactly how I feel! Uncle Phil, and trying to get into this amazing family.! 😭

Apr 17th
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Neil Martin

lmao, Phil can you please share a time when bond funds fell 50%? Interest rates quadrupled between 1963-1982 and bond funds never came close to growth losses of 50%. Long term, bond funds like PIMIX are good investments especially as people approach retirement age. For younger investors, not as much. Also, index funds of major indices average 10% yoy going back 50 years. With compounding, that is a decent return for those not wanting to take the time to power through income statements or risk investing in individual stocks. I know you need to sell books but c'mon.

Apr 5th
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