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Join former federal prosecutor and CNN Legal Analyst Renato Mariotti and former Special Agent at the FBI and Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa as they dive deeper into complicated issues in the news with a blatant pro-democracy bias.
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In this very special episode, hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa are joined by seasoned legal expert and commentator Ken White to discuss the perplexing legalities and terrifying consequences of Trump’s new unchecked presidential power.
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Renato, a former federal prosecutor, and Asha, a Yale law professor, recap Trump’s remaining legal battles, and explore the contentious decision by Jack Smith and the Department of Justice to charge Donald in the first place. You’ll also hear an in-depth examination of how Merrick Garland’s slow, cautious approach compares to the rapid, decisive actions we’ve seen in previous administrations.
Despite the recent unsettling Supreme Court decision granting broad immunity to presidents, our guest Ken White argues that pursuing due process and protecting constitutional safeguards is always vital to democracy. Even when the outcomes may appear grim.
Renato, Asha, and Ken urge prosecution for local actors involved in election-related misconduct, to serve as a deterrent on other grassroots level actors. We’ll also review how the states play a critical role in serving as one of the essential checks on federal overreach.
Our hosts discuss how things might have played out if charges against Trump had been brought sooner, and in a more conducive legal environment. We’ll also review how past political climates, and counterfactual scenarios have shifted judicial opinions and outcomes. And finally, Asha and Renato argue that we must take a more proactive stance to rectify the glaring flaws in our institutions that Trump has revealed.
As difficult as it might be to accept these new political and legal realities, our brave hosts encourage us to maintain a cautious optimism, and stress the importance of public awareness in upholding democratic values.
Stay tuned for future must-listen episodes, where we will continue to unravel legal landscapes, confront systemic issues, and illuminate the paths to enduring reform. Stay engaged and informed as Renato and Asha navigate the labyrinth of American democracy, one episode at a time.
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In today's all-new episode, our hosts-former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and Yale law professor Asha Rangappa-uncover Donald Trump's nefarious plans to overthrow the Department of Justice and transform it into his own personal score-settling machine.
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In the aftermath of Trump's shocking win, concerns about the abuse of presidential power have once again taken center stage. Asha, with her extensive background in national security law, and Renato, armed with his prosecutorial experience, examine the legalities and consequences of an unchecked presidency.
Our hosts debate, considering the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity, whether procedural protections within The Constitution can withstand Donald’s likely abuses of power. And Asha raises serious concerns about society's acceptance of Trump’s behavior, warning that significant changes in the system could now go unchecked.
We’ll talk about the incoming administration’s potential political maneuvers that could have lasting consequences on American foreign policy, immigrants, and government employees. As Renato points out, the subtle, gradual shift towards authoritarianism has become a much greater threat than a sudden, overt coup.
Asha and Renato also break down the legal quagmire Trump still faces, with a number of various pending cases. And we’ll talk about how the Biden Administration’s failure to properly address Trump’s injustices and abuses underscores the need for deeper, systemic reforms.
Despite the despair and fear a lot of people are feeling, both Asha and Renato encourage us to take on a cautious optimism, pointing out that we’re better prepared now to anticipate and respond to Trump’s antics than we ever were in his first term.
We hope you enjoy this captivating episode. Remember to stay vigilant, stay informed, and stay engaged, as we are reminded once again that navigating the legal future of American democracy is indeed complicated.
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Welcome back to our Election Edition of It’s Complicated! In this very special episode, hosts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti are joined by attorney, author, and former U.S. Ambassador Norm Eisen. They discuss the potential chaos Trump could unleash on election night, as well as the complexities of reforming U.S. election laws.
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Norm Eisen, a veteran election law litigator, sheds light on the safeguards that have been put in place to prevent a repeat of 2020, emphasizing the importance of the Electoral Count Reform Act. According to Eisen, the legal landscape has shifted significantly since 2020, closing many of the loopholes Trump exploited in his previous campaign.
Eisen, who helped shape the Electoral Count Reform Act and testified before Congress on the matter, breaks down the systemic changes made to prevent Trump’s election chaos from happening again.
Norm assures our listeners that, this time, reforms have been made to fortify the certification process against using alternate slates of electors. He explains how, for example, the reform act has demystified the vice president's ceremonial role and defined it as purely ministerial. And despite the close-call potential in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan, Eisen remains optimistic that these changes will safeguard the democratic process.
Asha urges our listeners to remain vigilant against disinformation and skewed information on social media, which can fuel doubt and unrest. Renato breaks down the potential legal disputes that Trump could still bring to the table. And together, they’ll assess the battleground states most likely to face litigation.
We’ll see you next time for another incredible episode of It’s Complicated, as we keep you informed on the pivotal issues shaping the evolving landscape of election law. We’ll also be announcing a very special opportunity for you to join us for a cruise next July, so stay tuned for that!
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Welcome back to another exciting episode, with hosts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti. We’re back to dive into the new potential election law violations and national security issues surrounding Elon Musk. Musk, known for his innovative business ventures and disruptive technologies, now finds himself at the center of intense legal scrutiny.
From allegedly violating campaign finance laws with his sweepstakes scheme, to newly reported intriguing conversations with Vladimir Putin, Musk’s actions could have lasting consequences on the political legal landscape, as well as U.S. national security interests.
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So what does it all mean for Musk? Well, It’s Complicated.
Renato and Asha unpack Elon’s controversial lottery scheme, which offers a million-dollar prize, under questionable legal circumstances, to voters who pledge to support policies friendly to Trump. We’ll also explain how the recent maneuvering by both the DoJ and Musk could lead to a prolonged legal battle over the issue. And you’ll hear how the complex nature of these financed voter drives allows for many lines of potential defenses in case of prosecution.
Adding to the intrigue surrounding Musk, the Wall Street Journal reported this week that Elon has been in consistent communication with Russian despot Vladimir Putin. Find out in this episode how Musk, who has a top-secret US security clearance, allegedly even discussed strategic assets like Starlink satellites with Putin. Asha and Renato will break down how Elon’s private discussions should align with national security protocols, and therefore potentially violate the Logan Act, which restricts private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.
We’ll break down how Musk's actions underscore a broader issue—certain individuals are able to live by different legal and ethical standards, purely due to their wealth and power. And our hosts urge bipartisan scrutiny as well as more stringent regulations to prevent private interests from jeopardizing our national security.
So sit back and listen in as we reflect on the implications of Musk's unprecedented power. And be sure to tune in next week for more expert analysis on some of the most pivotal legal and national security cases of our time.
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Can Jack Smith’s new filing secure a conviction of Donald Trump? Spoiler alert: it's complicated. In this all-new episode, legal experts Asha Rangappa and Renato Mariotti dive deep into the complexities of the latest unsealed filing in the Washington D.C. district federal court seeking to break through presidential immunity and put Donald Trump on criminal trial for crimes stemming from his alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
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Our hosts take a comprehensive look at the strategic elements and rigorous arguments presented in the immunity brief, which serves as a roadmap for Jack Smith's bold new prosecution strategy based on a fairly recent, superseding indictment. And they’ll provide insights into how Smith is specifically challenging Trump’s claim of presidential immunity, asserting that his actions were in his capacity as a presidential candidate, rather than in an official capacity.
You’ll hear about the extraordinary level of detail in the filing, which weaves together a variety of evidence to paint the picture of Trump’s alleged conspiracy and misconduct. Renato highlights Smith's strategic use of Trump's tweets, which provides a clear differentiation between his official and personal statements.
Asha and Renato also break down the significant role of Trump's legal advisors like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, who not only provided legal cover for questionable activities, but may have also contributed to the smokescreen of legitimacy around claims of election fraud.
Lastly, Asha explains how the committee also laid the groundwork for much of the evidence now seen in Jack Smith’s prosecution filing. Our hosts reveal the impact of the January 6th committee's findings on shaping public understanding of these events, and explore the potential defenses Trump will likely employ.
We hope you enjoy this episode. Be sure to join us next week as Asha and Renato continue to untangle the complexities of all of the most important legal drama in America’s history as a democracy.
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This week New York Mayor Eric Adams was indicted for allegedly receiving illegal campaign contributions from foreign nationals, using straw donors and a quid-pro-quo arrangement. So just how strong are the charges? As hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Ranagga explain, It’s Complicated.
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We’ll discuss the multifaceted elements of the charges, including campaign finance fraud, bribery, and foreign influence. Renato, a former federal prosecutor, recaps the arduous investigative journey it would require to crack this case, and discusses the many legal challenges a trial will face.
They explore the intersection of national security and public corruption, and cover a broader trend of foreign influence in U.S. politics, with cases involving influences from Egypt, Turkey, and Russia. You’ll also hear about the diplomatic and geopolitical nuances of these examples and find out how such revelations can derail international relations and domestic policies.
Adams is also accused of using the foreign funds to receive matching money from New York State, and allegedly provided favors in exchange for the contributions. According to the indictment, Adams received lavish perks and benefits from Turkish Airlines in exchange for intervening to secure a fire safety certificate for a Turkish skyscraper, despite significant fire code violations. You won’t believe what else Adams allegedly gave them in exchange. But critical questions remain - like who in Eric Adams’ circle is cooperating with authorities?
Asha breaks down Adam's broader scheme, and explains why even though many individuals are implicated in the web of corruption, Adams is the only named defendant.
Renato and Asha agree that while the legalities of the case present serious challenges, the overall perception of Adams trading influence with a foreign government will not sit well with a jury. And they’ll explain why the indictment is as much about exposing the foreign influence on U.S. officials as it is about prosecuting the specific charges.
For more expert analysis and in-depth discussions on high-profile legal cases, be sure to tune in next week. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It's Complicated.
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In this episode, hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa analyze the bombshell arrest of music mogul P. Diddy, and the shocking charges he faces of sexual assault, kidnapping, bribery, and obstruction of justice. Find out how Diddy’s indictment is a part of a growing Department of Justice trend of applying the RICO statute to prosecute celebrity-involved scandals and domestic terrorism.
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We’ll unpack Diddy’s complex legal charges, and discuss how the RICO statute—a law originally designed to combat organized crime-plays into it all. Find out here how Department of Justice strategies have evolved to meet the growing challenges of prosecuting hate crimes, domestic terrorism, and sex trafficking.
Our hosts discuss how R. Kelly's case compares to Diddy’s, and they give us all the details on a new disturbing indictment of members from the Terrorgram Collective, a white supremacist group spreading violence and extremism globally using the Telegram app.
The RICO statute is typically used to address organized crime where a hierarchical structure exists, making its application to a celebrity's entourage and business operations novel and intriguing. Asha and Renato highlight the innovative application of RICO, and the Justice Department's evolving strategies in countering both celebrity-involved scandals and organized hate crimes.
How successful will federal prosecutors be in prosecuting these cases? What kind of defense will Diddy’s legal team offer up? And how could this impact the rest of the entertainment industry? Get the answers right here.
And be sure to tune in next week, as Asha and Renato continue to provide the expert analysis and legal insight you need on another very special episode. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It’s Complicated.
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In this all-new episode, Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor, and Asha Rangappa, a national security law professor, dissect the recent dismissal of three felony charges against Trump and his co-defendants in Georgia, two of which directly implicated the former president.
Why does any of this matter in the grand scheme of things? Well, it's complicated.
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Asha and Renato delve into the complexities of the Georgia case, which contains a sprawling indictment against Donald Trump and other defendants that still has 32-counts remaining, including the wide-ranging racketeering charge. You’ll also hear their analysis on that judge's ruling on state versus federal supremacy in perjury cases which resulted in last week’s dismissals and you’ll get an overall update on the status of District Attorney Fani Willis' case.
Our hosts also discuss the various legal challenges and rulings from the Georgia case, including several previously quashed charges over issues related to specificity and perjury. Burrowing into the weeds, we’ll cover the unique challenges of determining jurisdiction and reach in state versus federal law in these groundbreaking cases. And you’ll hear an expert examination of how the Constitution’s Supremacy Clause and the Electoral Count Act play into it all.
Asha and Renato also explore how these recent developments will impact those who pleaded guilty to Georgia charges that have since been quashed. Specifically, they ponder over convicted Trump lawyer Kenneth Cheeseborough’s plea deal and what the nullified charges might mean for him.
They’ll also explain why the Fulton County’s Election Board’s potential growing influence on national elections is so significant, and give you the latest on the Democratic Party’s major lawsuit filed against the Board.
For more highly entertaining detailed legal insights and expert analysis, be sure to tune in next week for a very special episode. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It’s Complicated.
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In this all-new episode, national security law professor Asha Rangappa and former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti delve into the murky waters of Russian disinformation campaigns. Discussing last week’s indictment of two Russian nationals for a malign influence operation in the U.S. by the Department of Justice, you'll hear how well-known commentators like Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Laura Southern, and Dave Rubin were ensnared with windfall payments from Russia’s government.
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The damning DoJ indictment alleges at least two Russian nationals conducted a clandestine operation in the US that sought to sway public opinion in the lead up to the election by funding BlazeTV content creator Lauren Chen’s startup, Tenet Media.
While one of the Putin government’s scheme targeted conservative American influencers, another indictment for a scheme called the Doppelgänger case was released, where prosecutors indicted a ring that created fake news websites. Both pushed pro-Russian narratives mixed with minsinformation to disrupt American politics and cause social division.
Our hosts break down the details and implications of the shocking foreign disinformation campaign, and analyze responses by different presidential administrations to combat these types of operations.
We’ll walk through the complexities of the case, talk about the role of targeted right-wing influencers in the operation, and explain how their willful negligence greatly undermined our democracy. You’ll also get to hear how the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) works, and get an expert analysis of the strategic shift in the federal response to these types of operations since the 2016 election.
Asha and Renato also give us an update on Hunter Biden’s recent legal troubles and share some hilarious personal anecdotes about maintaining public appearances.
This episode of It's Complicated is a must-listen. Stay tuned and join us next week for more expert analysis and deep dives into the world of legal and political intrigue.
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Special Counsel Jack Smith just filed a superseding indictment against former President Donald Trump in the wake of the Supreme Court's historic presidential immunity ruling earlier this summer.
In today's all-new episode our hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa give their expert analysis of Trump’s brand new indictment.
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You’ll learn why Special Counsel Jack Smith needed to convene a new grand jury for this week's new indictment. We'll also discuss how the superseding indictment seeks to outmaneuver the Supreme Court’s controversial decision on presidential immunity. Lastly, our hosts will project the potential outcomes of the case, including delays and why it's likely swift appeals will result from any forthcoming decision.
Renato elaborates on the gamble of Jack Smith, and explains how the new filing cleans up old charges and makes prosecution more effective.
Asha highlights the complex role of the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity decision on the case and provides an in-depth analysis of the distinction between legislative and executive acts.
And our hosts also provide a new update on the appeal of Judge Cannon's dismissal of the Mar-a-Lago indictment, discussing how the focus on statutory interpretations and historical context support special counsel appointments.
Tune in next week as we continue to unpack all of the ongoing political legal drama. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It’s Complicated.
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How Screwed is George Santos? It’s Complicated.
Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and Yale national security law professor Asha Rangappa examine the numerous criminal schemes perpetrated by expelled former Rep. George Santos’ (R-NY). Our hosts discuss how his likely sentencing will measure up to typical white-collar criminals in the wake of his guilty plea deal last week.
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Get ready for a deep dive into the former Long Island Republican Congressman’s systematic pattern of meticulous fraud, with a few eye-popping details of how he brazenly continued his schemes inside the halls of the Capitol.
Santos illegally misappropriated funds from campaign donors, fraudulently charged credit cards in DC. But his criminal turn began in New York when he obtained unemployment benefits under false pretenses, and lied several times on official reports in his home state.
Our hosts highlight the many challenges in prosecuting these types of crimes. Interestingly, they revealed a legal movement toward lenient prison sentences for white-collar criminals.
The episode also touches on the shocking new charges stemming from the tragic death of Friends actor Matthew Perry.
Asha and Renato break down the gravity of alleged crimes, including over-prescribing lethal doses of sedatives, distribution of controlled substances, and falsifying medical records.
This episode is packed with expert analysis, legal insights, and the kind of in-depth discussion that you won’t want to miss. And be sure to tune in next week for another very special episode.
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In this AWESOME episode, our hosts - former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti and Yale law professor Asha Rangappa - dive into the complex dilemma of sentencing Donald Trump before the November election.
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We’ll examine Trump's lawyer's recent request to delay sentencing, the impact the Supreme Court's immunity decision will have on the hearing’s outcome, and the likelihood of success for any appeals. And you’ll hear our take on what impact the sentencing will have on Trump's electoral prospects and future legal strategy.
Renato and Asha share their expert opinions on Trump’s lawyers’ repetitive requests for recusal, and dissect bogus claims of conflict of interest and election interference. They’ll also walk us through the various sentencing options Trump is facing and discuss how even modest penalties could impact his public perception and deal a devastating blow to his presidential campaign.
This is a MUST-LISTEN for anyone trying to find out what happens next in Trump’s legal saga. And be sure to tune in next week for more expert analysis and insight you won’t find anywhere else!
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Why is Jack Smith asking for more time in the Jan 6th case? Well, it’s complicated.
And we have some very exciting news to share. We have recently partnered with Really American Media to take our podcast to the next level. They are going to exponentially speed up our production times and help us deliver more exclusive, hard-hitting content like this. “And what it means is that we're going to have conversations together and you're going to see the results very quickly,” Renato said. “Not only in our regular podcast feed, but you'll actually see the video on the Really American YouTube channel.”
In this all new episode, hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa move past the sound bites and talking points to discuss the special counsel’s surprising move and its implications for the upcoming election.
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Listen in as our leading legal experts give you the latest update on the Jan 6 case and explore the possible strategic considerations that need to be made by Merrick Garland moving forward. They’ll also break down the complexities of the Supreme Court's decision on presidential immunity and take a hard look at how that will impact Trump’s many pending felony charges in the future.
We’ll also talk about the many challenges of overcoming Donald Trump’s prevailing narratives and ongoing attacks on Kamala Harris, and share some hilarious personal anecdotes about dealing with household emergencies.
The legal landscape surrounding Donald Trump remains fluid and unpredictable. So be sure to stay tuned for the next episode of It’s Complicated as Asha and Renato help us navigate these complex times.
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In a bit of a departure from the usual subjects Asha and Renato weigh in on politics. In particular, how the label of “weird” is sticking to JD Vance. Also, what it must be like for Usha to ride along with her husband’s new-found love of Trump.Plus, Renato is a bit of a swinger…on the dance floor.
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Asha and Renato go over the current state of Trump’s criminal trials. Renato shares his surprise prediction about the Manhattan conviction.Plus, Asha barely made it home from her vacation!
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Dahlia Lithwick joins Renato to discuss what’s next for Jack Smith now that the Florida indictment has been thrown out?President Biden has reportedly said that Court reform is going to be a priority in his re-election campaign. What would that look like?Plus, there were some difficulties getting this episode together!
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Norm Eisen joins Renato and Asha to talk about how this shiny new presidential immunity works when applied to Trump’s current prosecutions.
Plus, Renato changed firms and Asha is exploring her options.
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Presidential Immunity and Chevron Deference were among two of the most consequential Supreme Court rulings this session.What does Presidential Immunity mean for Biden and for Trump’s criminal trials?Renato and Asha are joined by Kim Wehle to discuss the end of Chevron.
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In Mar-a-Lago, Judge Cannon held a 2 day hearing and invited amici to argue whether Special Counsels are Constitutional. Trump responds to Jack Smith’s request to modify Trump’s pretrial release conditions.
SCOTUS gets Rahimi right by ignoring its own precedent.
Plus, kids behind the wheel.
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Hunter Biden was found guilty of a felony. What’s next?How is Trump handling his felony conviction as he awaits sentencing?
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He also raised money for a wounded veteran's dog, then kept the money for himself.
Great conversation, as always. Unfortunately the audio between you two didn't sync up for most of the pod. Long pauses before Renato, and talking over each other. Hopefully it's easily fixable for others to enjoy!
Renato didn't explain the old OT rules correctly. Previously, if the team that won the coin toss only scored a field goal, the other team would get a chance to score, too. However, if the first team scored a touchdown, the other team previously wouldn't get the ball and game over. Rules only changed for post-season games.
Asha and Steve seem highly result oriented.
I'm not sure why, but recently the episodes have become really painful to try to listen to. It seems that there's not enough time being put aside for preparation and/or recording to actually deliver coherent discussion and explanation like there used to be. I'll keep checking back, but really would suggest that it could be a good idea to rest the show, or cut the frequency down unless/until both participants can dedicate the time and effort needed to make it work as it has.
my goodness, please let him tell his bunny story! my, i hate interruptions :(
The public is celebrating that, through RICO, Trump is finally being labeled a criminal. We don't have to meet the most minute criteria of a definition to use a label because we aren't lawyers in court.
"Let me see that, I want to show you an example." Trump's first words suggest someone else in the room was already examining the classified document before handing it to Trump at his request. This also debunks his denials that it was a classified document because he is asking for the document to visually confirm what he is saying on tape.
I can only hear Asha, not Renato.
I have a fairly high tolerance for arrogance and chit chat but I feel so disgusted by the amount in this podcast. Very disappointed. Am unsubscribing.
"A sexual relationship with children”... Ugh. Is that really the most accurate term?
I wonder what the can was that he opened lol
Good show. If Barr is there to manage pardons + protect GOP from RICO charges, is this a dereliction of his duty to the people of 🇺🇸?
great podcast, Renato!