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Jensen and Holes: The Murder Squad

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Retired Cold Case Investigator Paul Holes and Investigative Journalist Billy Jensen dig deep into unsolved murders, unidentified remains and missing persons cases. Each week listeners ride shotgun as Holes and Jensen attempt to solve the crime using a variety of methods, from old-fashioned detective work to advanced technologies including familial DNA searches, social media geotargeting, and maybe most important—the skills of their listeners who send in tips and theories, becoming active members of The Murder Squad.
115 Episodes
Melissa McCarty and Kelly McLear from the Killer Genes podcast join Paul and Billy to discuss the cases of possible black widower Thomas Randolph. Randolph has been married six times and charged with two of his wives' death.  See for privacy information.
Alaina and Ash from Morbid: A True Crime Podcast join Paul and Billy this week to discuss the unsolved murders of Michelle Guse, Denise Milner and Lori Farmer. The three girls were murdered while at an Oklahoma Girl Scout camp in 1977. The case remains unsolved to this day.  See for privacy information.
Billy and Paul delve into one of the most discussed and enraging cases in the true crime world--the homicide of almost 3-year-old Caylee Anthony in 2008. They take close looks at the autopsy, interviews given, the trial and much more.  See for privacy information.
Alvin and Fran from Affirmative Murder join Billy and Paul to discuss killer Marcus Wesson. Wesson created a cult within his family beginning in the 1970's. The belief system was built on Wesson considering himself god and that Jesus was a vampire. The cult was kept quiet until 2004 when a reported domestic disturbance became deadly.  See for privacy information.
CBS News' Erin Moriarty joins Billy and Paul this week to discuss the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos. On May 24th, 2019, Jennifer dropped her children off at school then vanished in New Canaan, Connecticut.  After she was reported missing, blood was found in her garage and her vehicle was later recovered. The case zeroed in on a person of interest but there is still no sign of Jennifer.  See for privacy information.
Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark from My Favorite Murder join Billy and Paul to discuss the NXIVM cult that made headlines after branding sex slaves. They discuss the inner workings of the group and the crimes for which justice is still in the process of being served.  See for privacy information.
Gillian Pensavalle and Patrick Hinds from True Crime Obsessed join Paul and Billy to discuss one of the most infuriating missing person cases in recent history. They look into the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell from Utah on December 6th, 2009. Her husband Josh was suspected in the case, but he murdered their sons and killed himself before any answers were revealed in her case.  See for privacy information.
Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Tenfold More Wicked podcast, joins Paul and Billy to discuss the case that inspired Twin Peaks. Hazel Drew disappeared from Sand Lake, New York on July 7th, 1908. Her body was discovered in 4 days later in Teal Pond. The case had many suspects from family members to wealthy businessmen but remains unsolved to this day.  See for privacy information.
Kara Klenk and Liza Treyger from That’s Messed Up: A SVU Podcast join Billy and Paul to discuss the Route 40 Killer. Steve Pennell is the only known serial killer from Delaware. He preyed on sex workers in the late 1980's before he was caught by an incredible undercover officer.    See for privacy information.
During Jensen and Holes' first Winter Distraction of the season, Billy and Paul talk about some of the biggest updates in the past year. They discuss arrests, DNA testing and the impact of Squaderinos getting loud.  See for privacy information.
Thank You, Squaderinos!

Thank You, Squaderinos!


This week Paul and Billy look into three separate missing person cases sent to us by Squaderinos. Susan Osborne and her son Evan disappeared from Holtville, Alabama in May of 2017. Dulce Alavez was abducted from Bridgeton, NJ on September 16, 2019. Gina Bos vanished from Lincoln, Nebraska in October 2000. Each case still has family, friends and the community searching.  See for privacy information.
Who Killed Jennifer Odom?

Who Killed Jennifer Odom?


Paul and Billy look into the unsolved murder of 12-year-old Jennifer Odom. Jennifer disappeared after getting off the school bus on February 19th, 1993, in Florida. After her remains were found six days later, the case focused on serial predators and serial killers alike. Tips continue to come in, but no one has been arrested for Jennifer's murder. See for privacy information.
Billy and Paul look into the mysterious death of Mitrice Richardson. Mitrice was behaving erratically when she was arrested on September 16, 2009 in Malibu, California. She was released on her own in the middle of the night with no car, phone, or money. Family and friends searched for nearly 11 months. Once Mitrice's remains were located, more questions came to the surface and still haven't been answered.   See for privacy information.
This week Paul and Billy look into the disappearance of Morgan Nick from Alma, Arkansas. Six-year-old Morgan disappeared from a little league field on June 9th, 1995. The case and descriptions of the possible abductor had Squaderinos bring the case to our attention after we discussed a potential person of interest last week. Paul and Billy also cover the ongoing homicide investigation of Quawan Charles. Charles' body was located in Iberia Parish, Louisiana on November 3rd.  See for privacy information.
This week Billy and Paul look into the murder of 5-year-old Siobhan McGuinness from Missoula, Montana. Her case was recently solved with genetic genealogy, but identifying her killer only brought on more questions. Could he be responsible for other murders--including the Alphabet Murders? The guys are joined by Special Deputy Susan Lane from the Missoula County Sheriff's Office and Investigator Colin Taft from Bath Police Department. Plus, we have an update on the Rebekah Gould murder case. See for privacy information.
Billy and Paul continue their look into the unsolved murder of Rebekah Gould from September 2004 in Melbourne, Arkansas. This week they are joined by Faculty member of Forensics and Criminal Justice at American Military University Jen Bucholtz to question the timeline reported in Rebekah's disappearance and murder. Also included in the conversation are journalist George Jared and Rebekah's father Dr. Larry Gould. See for privacy information.
Paul and Billy look into the unsolved murder of Rebekah Gould from September 2004 in Melbourne, Arkansas. The case has left her family and community in a swirl of rumors with no justice. In this episode, the guys look into the facts that were originally reported on the case. They are joined by journalist and author George Jared and Rebekah's father Dr. Larry Gould.  See for privacy information.
Billy and Paul look into the mysterious disappearance of Brianna Maitland from Montgomery, Vermont. After leaving work on March 19, 2004, her car was found abandoned crashed into a barn. Upon learning she was missing, questions circled around a fight weeks earlier, local drug dealers and possibly human trafficking. Detective Sgt. Angela Baker with the Vermont State Police join Paul and Billy to clear up the rumors that have plagued the case for the last 16 years. See for privacy information.
Paul and Billy finish their look into the Humboldt Five. They take a deeper look into the disappearances and deaths of Sheila Franks and Danielle Bertolini. Sheila was a single mother of two young children. Danielle was a transplant from Maine who came to Northern California and became entangled in the Emerald Triangle. Both met with someone sinister. But neither has seen justice. We continue the search for the Humboldt five and justice for the known victims. See for privacy information.
The Humboldt Five, Part 1

The Humboldt Five, Part 1


Billy and Paul begin their look into the Humboldt Five with this first part of a two part series. They delve into the missing person cases of Jennifer Wilmer, Karen Mitchell and Christine Walters. Each young woman disappeared near Humboldt County and hasn't been seen again. The circumstances swirl around the California Redwoods, marijuana, the Grateful Dead and an infamous potential serial killer.    See for privacy information.
Comments (444)

Annie Privette

Wouldn't the flashlight that was left behind have finger prints and dna on the outside or surely on the inside by the battery???

Feb 19th

Derek Manning

As someone who was raised in a cult (I left it when I was 22, I'm 54 now), I found the smugness and mockery of the rank and file, not the leaders, of this cult very distasteful. it was clear that neither Billy nor Paul nor the podcasters that brought this story understood how cults work, nor about how cults recruit new members. Hopefully, this will be the first and last time Billy and Paul venture down this road. Please stick to solving murders, not ridiculing people who made made bad decisions because they were preyed on at a low point of their lives.

Feb 17th

Valeria27_4ever, Esq. 🇮🇹🇪🇺🇬🇧 #FBPE

❤️ My two favourite Podcasts in one 🤩 (and it was actually thanks to Morbid that I found The Murder Squad!!)

Feb 15th


Billy: we have to end this on a lighter note Paul: When the Pathologist decides he's going to collect the vitreous humor out of the eyeball and uses a large gauge syringe and plunges it into the eyeball to suck out the fluid... Billy: somehow, still a lighter note

Feb 10th


Zanny is common street name for Zanax. One of the theories was Casey was drugging Caylee so she could go out. Maybe she was giving her “Zanny” (Zanny the nanny” and making her go to sleep so she could go out.

Feb 9th


zanny is the street name for xanax..hence, zanny the nanny, people have speculated that she gave the baby too much xanax and she fell asleep and never woke up. ya'll may cover this later in the episode. ..i am at the beginning...

Feb 8th

Mary Palmer Baez

She was her parents world until Caylee came along and she was jealous.

Feb 8th

Mary Palmer Baez

leaveing the body there was a big F U to her mom an dad. this girl is scum then and now.

Feb 8th
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Katie Lawrence

Loved this! All my Fav people 😍

Jan 26th

Annie Alana

Honestly this is the worst of all of their episodes. The non stop obnoxious laughing makes it so hard to get through. I certainly won't be checking out True Crime Obsessed at all, they didn't even have the full correct information on this case. Paul and Billy are so much better than this episode portrays.

Jan 22nd

Juju Longo

too bad we could barely listen to Paul and Billy in this episode. 🙄

Jan 19th

Teresa Donaldson

I love your podcast I have been a long time listener and follower. Unfortunately, your guests massacred the tragic Cox / Powell story. They did not even relay the name of the youngest son correctly Brayden not Brandon. That being the simplest form of respect. Toting the line between hummor and tragedy is a fine art that your guests did not possess. They would benefit from taking a lesson from Georgia and Karen from "My Favorite Murder." Steve Powell's obsession and acts that followed are comedic. Specifically the hoard of Susan's personal items and the songs he wrote and recorded. I am a resident of Utah I remember the weeks, months now years wishing and hoping for a resolution to this missing person case. Still to this day myself and many others pray for resolution to this crime. The obvious consensus is that Susan was killed, it would be satisfing for her remains to be found and have them reunited with those of her sons. I would love to hear Paul and Billy review the case again without the distraction of cheap laughs. This is a story that doesn't translate well in a comedic form. If interested there is a very good, well investigated podcast on the Cox/Powell story it is called "Cold". I hope to hear this crime given its deserved justice.

Jan 14th

Elisabeth Alderden

I was listening and wondered if they could compare the knife the creep/guy always "played with" to the knife investigators suspect was used to kill the sisters? Also, thought possibly the girls were killed by different offenders, as you brought up? And that possibly the younger s iui ster may have either been "unmanagable" screaming, crying, fighting, etc? we may never know.

Dec 27th

Cary Wooster

My heart breaks for her and I hope that she gets help. It's very obvious why he chose her so hopefully she can get help there also.

Dec 25th

Steve Dronzewski

Constant laughter by the hosts of true crime podcasts is so frickin annoying. I find it disrespectful as well. I can't wait for the next "regular" episode.

Dec 18th

Reid W

Why are they talking about the Outsiders?

Dec 17th

suzen carey

Re: Mary & Susie Reker Girls, Waite Park is the city to the west which butts up against St. Cloud, not a park at all. Granite quarrys are located all over the west and southern areas of this area. (then the Mississippi River flows through the center of St. Cloud) on the northern edge of St. Cloud is Sartell. Police have problems because St. Cloud is in Stearns County and anything on the Sartell side of St. Cloud are in Benton County. That said Zayers Shopper City was huge not at all like a Walgreens! The building still remains (it was recently Shopko) on the crossing of hwy.s 10 and 23. The quarrys generally are 90 to 100 ft. deep and are very cold with steep edges and only have an access where the quarry vehicles removed granite so the individual would have to know where that road would be. and yes, I do believe as do many in our area that Rita Reker was spot on and confronted her daughters killer on his death bed. God be with Rita...

Dec 17th

alli lent

I am so close to getting my driving cert.. I would love to take a class by someone like this to learn how to help police solve cases in my area

Dec 16th
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l had to stop listening to wine and crime because they just got too wild always interrupting each other, carrying on a bad joke for too long, and making it impossible to listen. I tried to listen to this one but just can't.

Dec 16th

Catie R

21:41 I want a shirt that says "there can be more than one shit bird in a town"

Dec 14th
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