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Jensen and Holes: The Murder Squad

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Retired Cold Case Investigator Paul Holes and Investigative Journalist Billy Jensen dig deep into unsolved murders, unidentified remains and missing persons cases. Each week listeners ride shotgun as Holes and Jensen attempt to solve the crime using a variety of methods, from old-fashioned detective work to advanced technologies including familial DNA searches, social media geotargeting, and maybe most important—the skills of their listeners who send in tips and theories, becoming active members of The Murder Squad. 

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Micheal Henderson

I think it's funny when a religious person survives trauma and thank God for it. If God was involved it was part of his plan to have you raped and ran over to survive, I think the only reason she did survive was because it rained the night before making the ground soft. which of course would have been gods doing

Apr 25th
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Zosia Holden

Pamela Escalante, wow...whether this was DeAngelo or not doesn't affect how brave and strong she was to speak up like that. We are lucky to get to hear an interview that is so raw, genuine and reflective of the true courage of survivors. I'm a victim of certain things, and I find the way that she got through it and told her story for the sake of justice to be truly inspiring. Paul and Billy did a masterful job of making her feel safe, heard and empowered.

Apr 24th
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mclovekeys

listening to Paul Holes interview a victim. such a great detective. 💯

Apr 23rd
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Amanda Rodriguez

They were talking about transcribing cold case files, how can I get involved in that?

Apr 23rd
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Steph Rivers

Found this episode not as good as others and appeared to have some flaws in the argument

Apr 23rd
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Jaymes Moynihan

I'm not fully convinced of this...I find it very difficult to believe that he would go from that kind of attack,..back to just ransacking homes,..for a year or two, and then start breaking into homes to rape 50 women without a single attempted murder or successful murder, even when he had time and opportunity. besides having the same general description, most of it just doesn't match his M.O in 1974. the guy is seeing similarities because he's looking for them. he said the fact he blugeoned her seems like proof to him, but why would he attack and try to kill her that way. and then go back to pettier crimes, and then go on to rape 50+ women without ever killing any of them. and then to on to blugeon 12 victims. that's not how these kind of escalations work. had he attacked her and left her for dead in that orchard, AND seemingly got away with it ...why would he then to back to stealing trinkets from homes for another 6 months. I feel like if he got away with what he thought it was murder, it would change given him the confidence to do it again. everything we know about him shows that up until he made the decision to start killing people, he only ever attempted to kill somebody out of self preservation. the father of the teenage girl he attempted to abduct, who he murdered, the police officer who narrowing missed being killed cause the bullet hit the touch he was holding. , the neighbors that caught him snooping around who ended up being shot...so during that time there's no evidence showing him to be actively wanting or trying to kill people. also Deangelo was known for his detailed planning. even back on 1974 he always planned escape routes , gave himself early warning signals, and didn't go unprepared...and he has never picked up and attacked and killed a victim, so I just find it difficult to believe that he would do all these things he wasn't known to do at this time, and conduct an opportune rape and attempted murder, there's always a chance it might be him. anything is possible. but I've studied this case pretty well over the years, and I don't feel there's enough there to convince me. there's some similarities for sure. but I think even back in 74, Deangelo was very calculated, you can see plenty of evidence of this in the Visalia Ransacker case documents. he was never an opportunity killer or attacker. so it just seems odd to me that he would abandon all of that as soon as he spots a hitchhiker. he also mumbled plenty to himself but I've never heard any talk of him talking about Vietnam. but im sure there's plenty of vets ta that time who might have a screw loose, lots of them came back messed up m so it could have been any one of a number of crazy nam vets she met that day I kinda wish this episode was more devoted to the case than just discussing a maybe victim that can't really remember much and can't really be tied to Deangelo. just seems like a lot of maybes. and I think this was all started by the son wanting to find the guy who almost killed his mom, I think this is the closest possibility and he's just deciding to run with it in hopes of some closure, and I get that. but the attacks he comparing to his moms attack wouldn't be commited by Deangelo for another 6 years or so, and I just don't think the evidence supports this attack. theres also no evidence of Deangelo committing any other attacks or ransackings in that area, so there's just a lot of different things that don't really add up. all of that being said, anything is possible, and any killer, no matter how meticulous they are at planning their crimes. can ignore all of those natrual tendencies if he sees a girl hitchhiking...he may have just spotted that easy prey and couldn't help himself, so who really knows, but If it was him then I think it was merely an opportunity he couldn't pass up,...but even then if he got away with it then I'd expect him to be the type of predator Ed Kemper was, and using his car and picking women hitch hiking. but he didn't. so yeah, I'm very much torn.

Apr 23rd
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Kathie Weise

I really hope it was DeAngelo who did this to Pamela because, if it wasn't then there was some other sicko out there doing horrendous things to people. I hope the truth is known one day.

Apr 22nd
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Jeff Wood

great show. I like that you are willing to let us help. I live about 30 miles from where the golden State killer grew up in New York.

Apr 21st
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Beth paup

I listened to the podcast bear brook and it was about him and the barrels

Apr 18th
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PennyD

I wanted to like this podcast but the recitations of the cases are disjointed and confusing, as if the listener is assumed to already be familiar with the details (the Rasmussen case was particularly confusing). Playing 911 calls and victims' voices with no warning to listeners is distressing, bordering on pornographic. Paul Holes is a good cop but awkward. Billy Jensen thinks a lot of himself; he's smug. I hope future podcasts on the network are less disappointing.

Apr 16th
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Brittany Monaghan

You guys are really finding your stride. Great episode... terrifying stuff. You guys had me laughing hard with Jensen and his "boo freaking hoo" and Holes responding "well...." after Jensen said his wife probably didn't use the chain and ball gag. You guys are the best. Going to buy "Chasing Darkness" today hope you put out physical copies in the future!

Apr 15th
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alli lent

house Ravenclaw for the win!

Apr 15th
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Becky Franklyn

Loved that they covered the Jeffrey Willis case. I grew up in Muskegon so I have followed this case from the beginning when Jessica went missing. Hopefully he will tell someone someday where she is.

Apr 15th
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Nuage Laboratoire

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Apr 13th
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Melanie Marie-Jahnke Manning

I somehow missed the connection between Rasmussen and the barrels.

Apr 10th
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Sarah

So far so good, sounds very professional and great to hear directly from investigators. The added element of encouraging listeners to take part and help solve these crimes is a fantastic idea. By coincidence I had just finished listening to the Bear Brook podcast when the Terry Rasmussen episode landed. For anyone that is interested in this case I couldn't recommend the Bear Brook podcast highly enough, excellent story telling over several episodes with additional details that were missed out in this stand alone episode. There were a few instances where the podcasts reported details differently and I'm inclined to believe the more in depth Bear Brook podcast probably had them correct. It also uses the same ethos of reaching our to listeners for help solving the case and shares materials online. Subscribed and hoping there will be many more interesting cases to come!

Apr 10th
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B

What an awesome podcast! hearing K&G named executive producers by Paul Holes made me feel all proud..I wish them every success in the world and my fingers and toes are crossed that some answers can come to these cold cases

Apr 10th
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Bailey M

I like Jonesing better too Paul

Apr 9th
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Marlena Dipo

Jonesing For Jensen, definitely!!! ❤

Apr 9th
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Claire Reid Statler

Jesus Christ do people have nothing better to do than complain about their free content?

Apr 8th
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