Joy of Missing Out (JOMO)

Spent our 20s working for other people and are now living our 30s betting on ourselves. This is the *joy* of missing out. A podcast starring Chloe Shih and Eric Wei. 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 - IG: @chloe.shih tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life! π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 - IG: @erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

I met the President

So a lot has happened since we last met... like Eric met THE Biden. As you can tell it was a crazy week for Eric as he traveled across several states and met lots of people including Fred Liu and the Mr.Beast team. Meanwhile Chloe was having an emotional journey rather than a physical one. There's lots of lessons learned this week, including some great advice from Jimmy and Jaime about handling self-hatred and hiring in the creator space. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv βˆ™ patreon β†’ https://www.patreon.com/jomopod π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 Biden wants to be a content creator?? 0:22 shirtless Eric 0:52 our intrusive thoughts available on patreon 2:13 end this debate: jomillionaire vs jomo angel 3:25 let the man rot 7:04 you need to act like you're the s*** 8:58 Eric cried in some dude's basement 11:33 the 1/3 rule for relationships 14:35 the mysterious Coxsackie car 17:10 Eric butchers Korean 18:18 buddy got neutered :( 20:24 Chloe is an extreme J 23:06 Eric meets Fred Liu and gives him a book 26:00 some man has good real estate and BAM billboard 27:49 meeting the POTUS 31:45 Eric became a hand model 34:23 friendship core memories 36:40 4 hour road trip for a 50% chance with the Mr.Beast team 39:45 Eric stayed up late to read a manhwa with a reincarnated hot man 44:20 doing the community a service 47:10 Chloe was going through it 50:29 Advice #1 you need to let go of negative energy 54:27 Advice #2 you need to change your perspective 55:16 Advice #3 be the hero of your life, not the victim 58:39 Why constrain yourself for your own story? 1:03:33 we love jaime aka igumdrop 1:05:09 we also love adrian aka omgadrian 1:06:37 hiring tip #1: gauging for grit 1:07:49 hiring tip #2: believe in the mission 1:09:46 lots of creators at the jackpot screening 1:12:52 what are Eric’s pickleball skills REALLY like? 1:14:10 Chloe’s locked in on 30 lessons at 30 1:16:44 getting our lives where they need to be πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives

09-17
01:18:00

The reality of working with your friends

Nobody likes to be wrong. Feedback is always difficult whether it be on the giving or receiving side. This week’s episode is a heartfelt one as we share our experiences receiving feedback in our corporate jobs and now giving feedback as the bosses in our creative endeavors. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ Eric Wei (⁠ @trykarat ⁠) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(⁠ @chloeshih ⁠) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv βˆ™ patreon β†’ https://www.patreon.com/jomopod π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 fake feedback 1:06 shark socks 2:19 A LOT has happened 3:27 we had a fire 6:00 patreon launched! 8:02 eric reflecting on being maidenless 13:08 how to be the TOP of the industry 16:28 not a lot of people can do this 18:53 what content really means 20:24 teamwork makes the dream work 22:18 a manager is useless without their team 26:50 eric made a mistake 29:30 chloe gave her friend a B- 32:12 the feedback Google gave Chloe 33:02 importance of ownership 37:23 building a work style + when your style clashes 40:52 rationale is valuable! 42:04 responsibility vs fault 44:18 chloe loves clubs, eric? not so much... 45:56 valuable feedback #1: perspective 48:56 valuable feedback #2: best practices for YOU 51:30 corporate buzzwords 52:30 chloe has ~conviction~ 53:27 we all have our weakness, like showering 54:43 eric got chills from chloe's feedback 58:54 chloe taught her friends taxes 1:02:08 giving brutally honest feedback for success 1:05:00 sharing feedback with your own feelings 1:07:07 trust when working with friends 1:08:37 chloe and eric’s good days 1:09:44 unsolicited feedback from strangers❌ 1:11:30 don’t do the s*** sandwich 1:12:30 eric still gets scared of feedback 1:15:20 What's something you’re trying to get better at? πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives

09-10
01:16:28

We Ranked Everyone in Tech

Today's episode is going to be a judgy one because we are ranking everyone and every situation you can encounter in the tech world. From the person who never has their camera on to the LinkedIn influencers we've seen our fair share of them. We are joined by Chloe's husbando, Kevin, to add the software engineer POV. In our rankings we are not holding back and giving our brutally honest thoughts. From jail to invited to pickleball to a jomie we got all the tiers covered. Get nice and cozy because this is gonna be a wild ride. P.S. the patreon is officially launchedπŸ₯³ β†’ https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ Eric Wei (Β @trykaratΒ ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(Β @chloeshihΒ ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod/ βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 the Chloe, Kevin echochamber 0:44 patreon launched! 5:21 Chloe’s husbando with the swe pov 6:35 tier list explained 9:44 disclaimer: no vanilla wholesome today 11:12 never has their camera on 13:35 way too into boba 14:28 dyes their hair blue or purple 15:34 engineer who wants a farm 16:38 has massive imposter syndrome 18:35 works in mobile gaming 19:39 exec that won't get a real mic 22:16 Berkeley EECS grads 24:53 mental health leave post on LinkedIn 26:00 Koolaid drinkers 27:13 doesn't have a bedframe 29:03 omakase and niku guy 29:57 Canadians/Waterloo 31:17 probably working a 2nd job 32:14 still uses firefox 33:11 always snow boarding 34:04 engineers that think ur flirting with them 34:59 sends long message at 5 pm on a Friday 36:06 dual monitor, mech keyboard, ergo desk + chair set up 36:54 the type that posts on Blind 37:38 says they're poor but makes 6 figs 38:34 really, really into coffee 39:40 staff engineer who "has no filter" 41:10 gets into office at 7 am 42:05 VCs 43:04 lowkey nepo baby 43:35 white tesla drivers 44:42 PM turned startup founder 46:21 HR 47:27 diversity hire 48:48 LinkedIn influencers 49:32 startup CEO that keeps pivoting 50:18 extreme biohacker 51:53 new grads 52:25 Forbes 30U30 lister 54:27 "hi" with no follow up 55:33 slack s***poster 56:05 RPMs 57:00 interns 57:42 bootcamp engineers 58:27 only promotion projects 59:13 ladder climbers 59:58 brings their dog to the office 1:00:20 wanna go rock climbing 1:00:53 "tech jobs that make 6 figure" creators 1:02:18 hosts board game nights 1:02:50 weebs 1:03:38 sold 2 startups and now "consults" 1:04:34 only works at FAANG 1:04:42 doesn't work on a real desk or chair 1:05:59 swipes in for lunch and leaves 1:06:16 only wears free tech shirts 1:06:56 the aquihires 1:07:20 SF techies 1:09:08 LA techies 1:10:12 Seattle techies 1:10:20 NY techies 1:10:33 engineer with a really loud keyboard 1:11:21 has a photo of Elon on their desk 1:11:49 Tahoe trip planner 1:12:16 wears patagonia vests & chinos 1:12:25 guy who always complains about dating 1:14:02 crypto bros 1:14:18 looks like a recruiter, is a recruiter 1:14:58 DIML techtokers 1:15:58 MBA grad name dropper 1:16:02 PM/design GF + SE boyfriend 1:17:10 Dr. Fei-Fei Li 1:17:36 Daddy Zuck 1:18:20 Sheryl Sandberg 1:18:39 Daddy Jensen 1:19:30 Elon Musk 1:22:08 disclaimer: all for funsies 1:23:25 JOMO out πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives

09-03
01:24:50

I'm Single. Again.

so...eric's back on the market. any takers? πŸ‘€ jk, but maybe? πŸ™„ today, eric wanted a lil pow-wow where we talk about our hearts. it's a whole episode around breakups - the good, the bad, and the ugly. and we have our very own recurring guest, kira, back on this special episode!! also kira is finally back online! you can find her at: Kira Lee: https://www.instagram.com/michellekiralee/ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykaratΒ ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(Β @chloeshihΒ ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Kristin Davis π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 uh, are we toxic? 0:44 up until 5 am 2:38 kira is now online! ig: michellekiralee 3:17 our exes are watching this pod 4:25 our breakups history 5:58 eric's single now :'( 8:22 chloe's breakups history 16:18 kira's breakups history 23:49 eric's recent breakup 25:26 eric's breakups history 27:11 eric's faithfulness being tested 28:55 when do you commit? 30:55 "in-yeon", which is "fate" in korean 33:58 is eric ready to commit? 34:35 korea's declining birth rate 38:22 an open debate on having kids 44:10 our parent's relationships 46:22 how kira handles fights with her boyfriend 48:22 how eric's parents impacts him 49:19 money makes you powerless 49:43 the women in chloe's family are built different 52:28 eric's realization on who he dates 53:09 chloe's learnings from her breakups 57:11 kira's learnings from her breakups 1:00:00 eric's learnings from his breakups 1:02:54 is eric ready TO DATE?! :o 1:04:29 what eric's looking for in a *girlfriend* πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives

08-29
01:08:11

We KICKED Him Out...

last week's episode was about the *art* of networking - how to get INTO the group. this week is about how you get kicked OUT of one. it's social faux pas, what NOT to do, and what gives us the ick. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠@trykarat) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(@chloeshih) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Lucas Falkavage and Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ youtube β†’ https://www.youtube.com/@jomopod βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 no queen, you slay! 0:45 the truth about our patreon... 2:23 eric's filthy toes 3:02 horseback riding with the BOYZ 7:29 feeling better about building this startup 9:30 being with people we don't like 10:04 chloe's events w/ Asian Founders Network and Beacons 11:16 eric pinging chloe's discord manager 11:45 chloe fumbled at beacons dinner 13:32 chloe's hosting lenalemon and stellachuu 14:18 the mystery of grandma 15:42 chloe's mental breakdown 16:50 so there was this creepy tech guy... 20:22 kicking people out + setting boundaries 21:51 doing reference checks on the creep 22:59 I just found out he did that... 23:49 when you don't like your friend's friend 27:40 what's socially NOT ok? 29:00 what gets you BANNED 30:13 who's +1 are they?! 31:43 the emperor has no clothes 34:02 they snuck in and used us, wtf? 36:05 the attachment style theory 39:01 your problem is my problem 40:18 resolving conflicts w family (daddy chill!) 42:31 resolving conflicts in relationships 44:48 chloe left her nonprofit 46:11 stanford's touchy feely learnings 49:25 the feedback given to eric 51:04 what to do with fringe friends you don't like 53:02 social faux pas! 57:03 how to pass the vibe check 1:01:51 story: chloe's mentor 1:04:01 people talk... 1:05:41 takeaways: u gotta be a hater 1:06:46 a study on cutting off your family 1:09:28 don't lie

08-20
01:10:00

Networking as an Introvert.

β€œIt’s all about who you know.” We’re constantly told to go out there and network, to the point where we feel like we can’t miss a single event. And the million dollar question: what if you're an introvert? From our years in corporate and now the content space, we've been to our fair share of networking events and picked up a few tips along the way. This episode is a dump of the stories, the L's, and insider tips we've gathered on the art of networking. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ Β @trykaratΒ  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( Β @chloeshihΒ  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 intro 0:46 ultra premium rare skin Chloe unlocked 3:00 Eric’s Karat party at Vidcon 4:42 Colin & Samir shoutout 6:36 burnout at events 9:51 Vidcon networking highlights 12:11 Eric’s missed panel 16:15 dinner with a mega millionaire 20:55 algorithms to optimize health 22:12 what’s a hot girl walk? 25:50 networking as an introvert 26:34 Eric and Chloe’s MBTI test results 28:08 networking when you don’t know anyone 31:40 how to secure people’s contact info 34:09 how Eric networks 36:13 Chloe’s go-to networking question 38:39 what’s the dream? 44:36 are they a work friend or friend friend? 49:11 Eric’s cold outreach secrets🀫 54:13 who Eric wants to meet next 55:35 who Chloe wants to meet next 57:48 the truth about successful people 59:30 know who to stay away from 1:05:59 feeling FOMO with networking 1:08:53 givers and takers 1:11:25 Jomie meetup?? πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #friendship #adultfriendship

08-13
01:13:09

My Best Friend was a Narcissist.

Friends - everyone needs them, but why are real ones so hard to find? Spoiler alert: it doesn't get easier once you're an adult. In fact it gets even more complicated once you throw work, spouses, and everyone doing their own thing into the mix. Episode 8 is about the best and worst parts of friendship, from the toxicity and cliques to the people you meet who make all of the drama worthwhile. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ Β @trykaratΒ  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( Β @chloeshihΒ  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 repressed memories 0:36 Chloe is injured 2:06 Eric’s new friends 3:03 Eric’s crazy ig stories 4:45 not having a friend group ft. eric’s kitty socks 6:53 abusive best friends 9:08 the Bay Area clique 10:39 when did Chloe make her first best friend 11:57 Chloe’s high school and college bullies 16:09 Chloe’s a$$hole roommate 22:43 SF housing drama 28:42 there’s no good definition of friendship 31:33 Eric’s struggle making friends 35:50 Eric couldn’t find roommates at Harvard 37:34 Chloe’s old high school crush 42:27 let’s talk about adult friendships 44:51 deciding how people slot into your life. How close are we? 49:50 Chloe’s friendship bar 52:08 Chloe’s highkey sus mentor 56:15 reference checking friends 57:08 criteria for making friends 1:00:44 when business changes friendships 1:03:02 have you ever been a groomsman/woman? 1:05:34 the complications of work friendships 1:07:47 this toxic coworker had a big crush on Chloe 1:12:39 can men and women be friends? 1:14:50 being pressured to constantly hang out 1:17:57 what Chloe appreciates about Eric 1:19:38 what Eric appreciates about Chloe πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #friendship #adultfriendship

08-06
01:23:41

I don't feel enough.

Nothing we do feels like enough. It’s easy to look at someone’s accomplishments on paper and think they have it all...but Episode 7 is all about the mental tax that comes with constantly striving for that next accomplishment. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ Β @trykaratΒ  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(Β @chloeshihΒ  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 How to do a *proper* hi five 1:05 life updates - Taiwan, college reunion, writing a life PRD 4:21 Chloe’s course launched… and she has a hater 9:08 Chloe’s act of kindness 11:03 the life of being online 12:01 Eric’s recent acts of kindness 13:52 Eric as a college student 16:17 what is Harvard’s reunion like? 19:45 Chloe not included in networking conversations 24:07 feeling small 29:56 Chloe has *clout* 31:33 Chloe hosted her own Gold House Gala 36:16 the sacrifices of putting β€œbusiness success” first 38:23 living in scarcity 39:37 wanting to feel heard 41:13 ya hate to see it! 44:09 do you want to change and let go? 45:49 infinite halfway theory 48:22 first impressions of Chloe 50:16 does wanting to change come from insecurity? 52:35 Chloe’s insecurities about being feminine enough 56:56 Eric’s crazy EDC travels 1:01:40 how much Chloe’s course made in sales 1:07:51 reflections 1:10:32 a bonus πŸͺ° πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice

07-30
01:11:38

YouTube isn't worth it.

Full-time content or back to tech...what about neither? Chloe has been defining her own path, which along the way has led her to sign a huge contract with a Taiwanese ed-tech company and contemplate launching her own TV show. Similarly, Eric's involvement in both business and content has him going from VC pitch meetings to hanging out in the Sway House with some of the world's biggest influencers. What is that lifestyle like, and is it really worth it? 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykaratΒ  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(Β @chloeshihΒ  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.com/invite/eKZEx42R π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 uwu and meet buddy 1:23 why was Chloe in Taiwan 3:37 Chloe’s product course! 5:32 why Kevin had to fly to TaiwanΒ  6:51 Chloe’s family reunionΒ  11:06 being a full time creator - is it profitable? Worth it? 13:16 why Chloe doesn’t want to do just tech or content 15:45 what are you gonna do then? 18:30 jUsT sTarT a cOmpAnY 20:55 what Chloe really cares about 26:53 content is too grabby 28:53 it only takes Eric 15 mins to do this?? 32:22 what do we call Chloe’s path 33:10 star studded pickleball tournament 36:39 the mentor who changed Chloe’s life 41:23 Chloe and Eric’s takes on how to actually find a mentor 45:13 awkward networking stories 49:32 why you have to be self promotional 51:10 eric’s experience at sway house 52:26 how content complements Eric’s entrepreneurship 59:00 taiwanese slang M3Ⓜ️3️⃣ 1:01:21 creators are tired 1:07:14 familial duties - parents, chloe junior 1:11:56 JOMO out πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice

07-23
01:13:30

Torn between tech and content.

β€œShould I leave my 9-5 to do content?” We’ve all had that thought, and Chloe actually made it happen. But is content really as glamorous as it seems? Chloe and Eric dive into the good, the bad, and the ugly of some of today's most enticing career paths: tech, startups, and content. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ Β @trykaratΒ  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( Β @chloeshihΒ  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/chloeshih π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 sick and tired of it all 2:46 did eric get shadow banned? 4:06 learned helplessness 5:46 chloe spends HOW many hours a week on content? 9:09 chloe has the urge to go back to corporate 1048 is content less fun as a full time creator? 11:51 how to design your life 13:14 how being 30 affects your body 15:35 the three paths - content is a side hoe 17:56 the most interesting people are not online 20:13 PM is NOT a chill job 24:03 what’s so hard about deciding life paths 27:30 do CEOs have to be good at managing people 29:13 should creators have smaller teams? 33:00 is YouTube still worth it? 35:08 how to make the most out of your PM job 39:23 feeling unimpactful as a PM 40:47 I just wanna be salary man 42:32 creators don’t get to work on the business side 44:50 chloe’s crazy grind schedule 49:11 does chloe want to start her own company? 51:18 eric’s career advice for chloe 53:35 how eric deals with burnout 54:40 eric & chloe’s plans for the next few weeks πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice

07-16
59:03

Don’t date β€œsuccessful” people.

In Part 2 of our steamiest episode yet - what's it really like to date successful people? Do men like it when women are smarter than them? Should the man in a relationship pay more? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s. π™Žπ™‹π™„π˜Ύπ™€ 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌢️🌢️🌢️ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito Disclaimer: This episode features an open and honest discussion about our diverse dating journeys. We understand that some viewpoints may differ from your own, and we fully respect that. Our aim is to create a space for a variety of perspectives rooted in real experiences. Please remember that the content of this podcast is not intended as advice. Instead, we hope it highlights the complexity of dating and love. π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ youtube β†’ www.youtube.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/chloeshih π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 welcome to pt 2! 0:48 what it’s like to date founders 3:02 are founders more likely to cheat? 4:22 the problems with men wanting validation 5:40 was dating in 30s different for eric 6:36 why dating in 30s gets harder for women 8:42 how eric β€œscreens” potential gfs 9:27 why eric doesn’t want kids 10:45 the most forward chloe has ever been 12:57 eric’s consulting rizz 13:43 do guys like when girls are smarter 15:49 how do you know he wants to be more than friends 17:36 definite dealbreakers 18:36 GREEN flags 22:11 being gaslit into open relationships 26:36 improve yourself to attract better people in your life 29:10 why open relationships don’t work long term 31:37 when are you ready to get married 33:06 how eric views marriage 34:55 should men pay for more 41:40 how much $$ do you need to live comfortably in LA 45:09 being a housewife 46:15 favorite romantic tropes πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #dating #relationships #love

07-10
51:55

Dating rizz in your 30s

Do women really care about height? Should you date friends? How do you know when someone is the *one*? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s. There's much to cover, so much so that the episode is broken into two parts. Stay tuned for Part 2 coming next Tuesday! π™Žπ™‹π™„π˜Ύπ™€ 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌢️🌢️🌢️ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykarat ⁠ ) - IG: / erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 (⁠ @chloeshih ⁠ ) IG: / chloe.shih tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ / jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ / jomopod βˆ™ youtube β†’ / @jomopod π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 protein chips (and more protein chips) 0:55 introducing our guest! 1:56 one way open relationships 4:20 why have an open relationship 5:40 facing public opinion on open relationships 7:52 would chloe have an open relationship 9:24 how kevin pulled chloe with NO experience 12:30 being tricked into a date 13:48 chloe and kevin’s first date 14:58 overlooking nice guys 16:06 do sf women think too highly of themselves? 18:24 when chloe *finally* fell for kevin 21:45 is it a red flag when they don’t have experience? 23:50 when do you commit to someone? 27:00 dealbreakers 28:18 why did chloe feel confident in her choice in kevin 30:20 simps. 32:00 why eric doesn’t date friends 34:44 eric’s accidental date w an older guy 36:30 why guys full send in dating 38:50 eric’s hinge profile glow up 41:08 does height really matter 43:11 eric’s wildest LA dating story 44:06 why eric fell for his gf 45:56 eric’s history of exes 48:22 hoe phases 49:53 100% certified magic trick for pulling ;) 54:05 stay tuned for pt 2! πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #dating #relationships #love

07-02
54:35

Money in content vs tech #unfiltered

Chloe and Eric both left the corporate world for their own pursuits. But it's hard to ignore the elephant in the room: where does money fit into the equation? The JOMO hosts compare their finances from back when they worked corporate jobs, to today as a full-time creator (Chloe) and startup founder (Eric). This is an honest conversation about how money affects relationships and careers in your 20s and 30s β€” some major 🍡 is spilled! 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykarat ⁠ ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 (⁠ @chloeshih ⁠ ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ youtube β†’ www.youtube.com/@jomopod π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 eric & chloe catch up 5:48 money in relationships 11:14 when did you first start making a lot of money 14:56 when being money driven stops you from doing other things 17:13 are startups *actually* lucrative 20:00 why chloe went into content 29:08 chloe's married life finances 32:09 eric's finances across relationships 37:00 onlyfans 40:00 how having kids changes finances 46:46 the corporate ladder 52:01 how chloe worked her way up 1:00:14 paying for others 1:01:50 chloe's dilemma 1:06:22 how chloe makes money as a creator 1:10:33 getting pregnant🀰🏻 πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei

06-25
01:12:46

The *truth* behind my layoff

When Chloe got laid off this year, she accidentally went viral and reached over 20m+ views online. This spawned a lot of unexpected things - from getting lots of new opportunities to being retweeted into oblivion. It was truly an atypical layoff experience, but was also the catalyst for Chloe and Eric to finally record this pod. Hope you enjoy the very first episode of JOMO with Chloe and Eric! Note: This episode was recorded In February 2024, so some information might be outdated. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (Β @trykaratΒ  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 (Β @chloeshihΒ  ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ youtube β†’ www.youtube.com/@jomopod βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 our silly lil intro 0:25 eric's intro of chloe 7:53 chloe's intro of eric 11:58 what JOMO pod is about 13:39 eric's weekend 18:42 chloe's weekend 20:10 going viral for getting laid off 20:27 getting hate 21:10 going viral in the news 22:13 hate on blind 23:41 eric's take on the hate + layoffs 26:11 new doors opening after the layoffs 28:51 eric's dramatic career w mckinsey, blackstone, facebook 32:31 some weird friend group drama 34:57 lawyering up (getting bullied by an entertainment co) 38:11 creators talking sh*t about chloe 40:40 eric's take on ppl talking sh*t 41:42 was the layoff a good thing? 43:03 dangers of making your life your content 45:55 being shameless going in on content + asking for favors 47:37 pet peeves when ppl ask for favors 50:06 chloe's first impression of eric 52:43 eric's first impression of chloe 57:32 hope u liked this πŸ‘‰πŸ‘ˆ πŸ₯Ί πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei

06-18
58:44

This is the "joy of missing out"

Spent our 20s working for other people and are now living our 30s betting on ourselves. This is the *joy* of missing out. A weekly podcast starring Chloe Shih and Eric Wei. 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life! π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jomopod⁠ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod

06-04
01:39

Gabriel M

Love listening to these two banter back and forth. Such a casual meeting of minds. One of my fav podcasts!

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