Just Get A Real Job

A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.

EP. 178 - 'How TV Is Failing the Working Class' with Philip Ralph

This week, Jamie welcomes back screenwriter Philip Ralph for an honest and thought-provoking conversation about class, creativity, and the ongoing crisis facing the TV industry.šŸ’¬ We chatted about everything from:šŸ“ŗ How class continues to shape opportunity and representationšŸŽ­ What the future of screen might hold for freelancers and working-class creativesšŸŽ¬ How shows like adolescence highlight both the strengths and flaws of the current systemšŸ’” The complexity of working in an industry that’s always predicated on success at all costsĀ āš ļøHow the ongoing crisis in TV is pushing talent out of the industry 🧠 Phils ideas for change and potential solutionsāŒ The worst advice he’s ever received in his careeršŸŒ What needs to change for a more sustainable industry to be bornA powerful chat about sustainability, Ā working class voices, and finding hope amidst uncertainty in the screen industries.Ā šŸ”— Links & ResourcesšŸŽ¤ Philip Ralph’s keynoteon class in TV (University of Leeds)šŸ“ŗ Watch:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66i8f815oAšŸ“ Read:https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/common-people-reclaiming-narrative-class-tv-time-crisis-philip-ralph-efbleĀ šŸŒ Stay ConnectedĀ šŸŽ§ Website:https://linktr.ee/JustgetarealjobpodcastĀ šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobĀ šŸ“² Follow Just Get A RealJobĀ šŸ“ø Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobĀ šŸŽ¬ TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob 🐦 X (Twitter):https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobĀ šŸŽ§ Listen on:Ā Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/2PRi8RlxPZz1zZx9zUuF8QĀ Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/just-get-a-real-job/id1541262912

10-14
01:09:00

'Hello, how are you? (Podcast Update)’

Hello, how are you?It’s been a wee while since I last put something out, so here’s a short check-in. A quick chat about what’s been happening behind the scenes, the ups and downs of creative work, and some news. New full episodes are back on 15th October! Thanks for sticking with the podcast. Keep your eyes peeled.Links:šŸŒĀ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™Ā Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“²Ā Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§Ā Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

10-03
05:34

Ep. 177 - ā€˜What’s It Really Like to Be a BBC Commissioner?’ with Nick Lambon

Ever wondered what it’s like to work at the heart of British television? BBC Commissioner Nick Lambon lifts the curtain on the realities of commissioning, producing and making some of the UK’s biggest shows.This week, Jamie sits down with Nick Lambon, Commissioning Editor at the BBC, for an honest, behind-the-scenes look at the television industry. From Doctor Who to soap operas, script editing to producing, Nick takes us through his career so far, busting myths about commissioning, sharing the pressures of production and exploring the challenges facing TV in 2025.šŸ’¬ We chatted about everything from:šŸ“ŗ The real role of a commissioner and the biggest myths about the job šŸŽ¬ Nick’s early career on Holby City šŸ›ø Working on an iconic show like Doctor Who šŸŽ„ The role and responsibilities of a producer šŸ›ļø The BBC’s unique position in the TV landscapešŸ“‰ The challenges facing the industry right now šŸ“Š Current trends in commissioning šŸ’” Nick’s career advice for anyone wanting to work in TV (and more!)If you’ve ever wondered how shows get commissioned or what it’s really like working at the BBC this episode is full of insider tips, honest truths and inspiration for your own creative career.šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

08-14
01:11:17

EP. 176- 'Finding Joy in the Chaos' with Sanjay Lago

This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie sits down with actor, playwright, comedian and rising Fringe star Sanjay Lago šŸ’«Sanjay is currently performing his solo show Love Me Like a Chai Tea Latte ā˜•ļø at the Edinburgh Fringe 2025, a heartfelt mix of storytelling, poetry and stand-up exploring love, identity and self-acceptance.šŸ’¬ We chatted about:šŸŽŸļø What it’s really like taking a solo show to the Edinburgh Fringe✊ Why POC and neurodiverse representation still needs work in Scottish theatre🧠 Sanjay’s journey with dyslexia and how it shapes his creative process😰 Managing imposter syndrome as an emerging artistā˜•ļø Making your mum proudšŸ”— Links:šŸŽ« Book tickets for Love Me Like a Chai Tea Latte at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/love-me-like-a-chai-tea-latteSanjay Lago on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sanjaylago?igsh=MWN2MWdvNjZjbDh4šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

08-09
49:44

EP. 175 - 'Building a Better Future for Young Creatives' with Sam Hornsby (ERIC App)

With the UK’s creative industries valued at over Ā£100 billion and growing faster than the national economy, why is it still so hard for young people to break in & have sustainable careers?In this episode, Jamie chats with Sam Hornsby, co-founder of ERIC, the free career exploration app helping young people discover exciting opportunities in the creative industries.With both Sam and her co-founder Mae facing barriers to creative careers, they set out to build the platform they wished they'd had.We talk about:šŸŽØ The story behind ERIC and how it’s shaking up the industryšŸ« The disconnect between education and creative opportunities😟 Why so many young people feel anxious about pursuing creative careersšŸ¤– How AI is changing thingsšŸŽ¢ The rollercoaster of building a startup and why mental health and community matteršŸš€ ERIC’s goals and how they’re getting more young people into creative careersWhether you're at the start of your journey or passionate about making the industry more accessible, this episode is full of ideas, insight, and inspiration.Links:Find out more about the ERIC App Here: ERIC | Creative Career AppšŸŒĀ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™Ā Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“²Ā Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§Ā Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

08-01
01:00:39

Ep. 174 - 'Football, Fringe Dreams & Finding Your Voice' with Kate Coulson

This week, I’m joined by the brilliant Kate Coulson an actor and writer taking her debut solo show Lioness to the Edinburgh Fringe this August.We spoke about:🧠 Growing up creative and finding confidence in your voicešŸŒ€ Living and creating with dyspraxia⚽ Women’s football and the inspiration behind LionessšŸ‘„ The importance of support from your communityšŸŸļø Making theatre accessible to wider audiencesšŸ’Ŗ The grit, community and chaos behind taking a show to the FringešŸ”„ Why persistence really mattersOne for anyone making their first steps into performance, writing or the Fringe and a reminder that persistence, community and honest storytelling really do matter. I loved this conversation with Kate. Links:Fringe show:Lioness | Edinburgh Festival FringeKate's company: https://www.instagram.com/madeyoulookprods?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=cWZxazA0bXY3d2Y2šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

07-22
01:13:26

Ep. 173 - ā€˜Creativity vs Commerce: Finding the Balance’ – with Carlo Cavagna

This week, I’m joined by the brilliant Carlo Cavagna Vice President of U.S. Operations at Two Daughters Entertainment and a key force behind the global writing programme PageCraft šŸŽ¬šŸŒCarlo has worked across the creative industries for over two decades from helping launch Lionsgate’s early VOD platform to leading global trade initiatives for the UK Government. These days, he’s focused on helping stories (and storytellers) reach their full potential while navigating the realities of an industry in flux.We chatted about:šŸŒ The differences between the UK and U.S. creative industriesšŸŽ¬ Why production budgets have gotten out of control 🧠 Helping writers get ā€œunstuckā€ and crack story structure šŸŽØ Balancing the worlds of creativity and businessšŸ“‰ Why the creative industries are becoming more unequal and what needs to changešŸŽžļø What the rest of the screen sector can learn from animationšŸ’” Carlo’s biggest lessons from a career spanning storytelling, leadership, and global mediaA wide-ranging chat with someone who knows the industry inside out and a reminder that no matter what changes, the world will always need good stories.Links:āœļø Page Craft: https://www.pagecraftwriting.comTwo Daughters Entertainment: https://twodaughtersentertainment.comšŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

07-15
57:43

EP. 172 - ā€˜Creating the Community You Wish Existed’ with Cat MacLeod

This week, I’m joined once again by the brilliant Cat MacLeod a returning guest and friend of the podcastĀ  for a raw and honest chat about what it takes to be a creative in 2025 ✨Since we last spoke, Cat’s been selected for the inaugural Sean Connery Talent Lab with NFTS Scotland, where she’s directing a short film (with a real budget this time), and she’s launched _and friendsĀ  a brilliant new theatre initiative that champions fresh work and supports artists in meaningful, no-gatekeeper ways. She’s also using her platform to advocate for real change in theatre and the wider creative industry.We chatted about:šŸ”„ Burnout and finding the right balancešŸ’¼ Balancing paying the bills with creative ambitionšŸŽ¬ Directing a short film with a budgetšŸŽŖ Launching _and friends & running a companyšŸ¤– AI and how her 2023 play Spin predicted the futurešŸ¤ The power of community and collaborationšŸ’¬ What she’s learned since our last conversationšŸŽ™ļø Our upcoming live event and loads more!ā€“ā€“ā€“šŸŽŸļø Tickets for our live show on June 22nd:https://www.skiddle.com/whats-on/Glasgow/_and-Friends/Brave-New-Work-making-indie-film-today/41013840/šŸŽ§ Guardian podcast we mention about AI:https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2025/jun/05/is-ai-about-to-steal-your-job-podcastšŸ“ø Follow _and friends on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/andfriends.scot

06-11
01:11:28

Ep. 171 - Rethinking Money, Work & Self-Worth as a Creative with David Thomas

This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie is joined by David Thomas a broadcaster, creative coach and trainer who’s spent the last 20 years helping people in the arts and media build more sustainable freelance careers.David’s worked across the BBC, the UN and beyond, and now trains 100s of creatives every year. In this episode, he shares practical advice and hard-earned wisdom on everything from money to mindset.We discuss:šŸ’ø Why so many creatives think they’re bad with money šŸ“Š How to build a healthier relationship with your finances 🧠 Reframing how we think about work šŸ¤ What we’re not taught about networking and selling our skills 🧰 The tools every freelancer needs šŸŒ€ Why permanent jobs aren’t the norm anymore šŸ“» David’s long career in radio with the BBC & what it taught him šŸš€ How David turned redundancy into a thriving training businessA practical and empowering episode for anyone trying to make a life and a living as a creative.David’s website and resources: davidthomasmedia.comšŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠

06-03
01:28:29

Ep. 170 - ā€˜Finding Fun in a Crazy Industry’ with Lizzy Skrzypiec

This week on Just Get A Real Job, I’m joined by Lizzy Skrzypiec. She’s an improviser, director, and the artistic director of Bristol’s long-running improv troupe Degrees of Error. Lizzy is also the creative force behind Murder, She Didn’t Write šŸ•µļøā€ā™€ļø the hit improvised murder mystery show currently touring the UK after seven sold-out runs at the Edinburgh Fringe and a recent West End debut at London’s Duchess Theatre. A key figure at the Bristol Improv Theatre, the UK’s first venue dedicated entirely to improv, Lizzy regularly mentors emerging troupes and supports the next wave of British comedy talent. Alongside her theatre work, she’s built a successful full-time career in television, producing major game shows like Bridge of Lies and Ant and Dec’s Limitless Win šŸ“ŗIn this episode, we chat about: šŸŽ­ 13 years of Murder, She Didn’t Write 🧠 What improv actually is—and why it’s more than just messing about šŸ’ø The financial realities of freelancing in the arts šŸŽ¬ Working in factual and entertainment TV šŸŽ¤ Her biggest creative influences 🌪 Lessons from life as a performer šŸŽ‰ Finding joy and connection in a constantly shifting industryA really fun and honest conversation with someone who’s spent over a decade finding the funny and having fun in an uncertain industry.Lizzy Skrzypiec:Murder, She Didn't Write: https://www.murdershedidntwrite.com/cast/lizzy-skrzypiecDegrees of Error Present: More Stuff She Didn't Write: https://improvtheatre.co.uk/upcoming-show/degrees-of-error-present-more-stuff-she-didnt-write/2024-05-05/šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

05-28
49:06

Ep. 169 - Making Music in 2025: ā€˜waverley.’ on Graft, Growth & Getting Heard

šŸŽ™ļø Episode 169 of Just Get A Real Job is out now and this week, Jamie is joined by the brilliant Edinburgh-based band Waverley.Known for blending Americana-inspired indie rock with folk-rooted songwriting, Waverley’s sound has drawn comparisons to Bon Iver, Frightened Rabbit, and King Creosote with dynamic shifts, dueling vocals, and a darker, heavier edge.Their new EP ā€˜Flail’ is out now, following the success of their 2023 debut It Makes An Emptiness Of A Crowded Place.In this episode, we chat all about:šŸŽø How the band came together šŸŽ§ The making of their new EP Flail šŸ’” Their songwriting process & creative influences šŸŽ¤ What it’s really like making music in 2025 🤯 The highs and lows of being an emerging band šŸ“ Advice for other independent musicians … and loads more!It’s a thoughtful, funny, and inspiring conversation with one of Scotland’s most exciting new acts.šŸŽ§ Now streaming on Spotify, Apple & YouTubewaverly.:waverly. on Bandcamp: https://waverley.bandcamp.com/'Flail' EP on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/07a9S1kyWAu9lz1TuqczinšŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

05-20
01:04:45

Ep. 168 - ā€˜Growing an Improv Scene’ with Martin James

šŸŽ™ļø This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie is joined by Martin James — co-founder of the Glasgow Improv Theatre (GIT) and a driving force behind Scotland’s growing improv scene.They chatted all about:ā€‹šŸŽ­ Starting an improv scene from scratch in Glasgowā€‹šŸ¤” What improv actually is — and why it's becoming more popularā€‹šŸ§  The day-to-day realities of running a creative businessā€‹šŸ’¬ Looking after your mental health while chasing your passionā€‹šŸŽ“ What Martin learned studying in the USAā€‹šŸ€ Playing basketball for the Scottish national teamā€‹šŸŽ¤ His biggest comedy influencesā€‹šŸ“ŗ His thoughts on Saturday Night Live coming to the UKIt’s a loose, thoughtful, and inspiring chat about taking risks, building something from the ground up, and the joy of saying ā€œyes, andā€¦ā€Martin James:Glasgow Improv Theatre: https://improvglasgow.co.uk/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAacRFf1ZJfiLeceY4zDE-eDjryHB9mo3CKYD4s0Nm9SCh3jglC2T70tZ5URKzA_aem_3uDSt87HvPDg19dUWMt-ZwGlasgow Improv Theatre on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/improvglasgow/šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

05-13
55:15

Ep. 167 - ā€˜The Cancellation of River City and What It Means for TV’

Episode 167 is a little different: we’re sharing an excerpt from my chat on the Cinora YouTube channel with filmmaker – and returning pal – Ashley Dick. We dive into the shock cancellation of BBC Scotland’s flagship soap River City and what the decision signals for drama production across Scotland and the wider UK.Since the recording, the fight to save the show has exploded. Famous faces – Richard E. Grant, Ewan McGregor, Miriam Margolyes and Nicola Sturgeon among them – have lent their voices, and a motion to keep River City on air will soon be heard in the Scottish Parliament.In this chat we talk about:How River City was axed and why it matters – timelines, budget pressures and the creative fallout.The concern for the wider TV industry – what the cancellation tells us about an already‑strained sector.Why we need to future‑proof the soap format (or find a new kind of long‑running drama).Why local voices are important – the cultural impact of losing a home‑grown show.What potential solutions we can pursue as an industry – ideas, funding routes and collective action.Hit play, share your thoughts, and help keep Scotland’s storytelling future alive. Check out the full video over on the Cinora Channel. Full video from Cinora šŸ”½šŸŽ¦: The cancellation of Soaps and what it means for TV----šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

04-22
21:16

EP. 166 – Storytelling, Social Mobility & Building a Hit Podcast with David McIntosh Jr.

This week on Just Get A Real Job, Jamie is joined by David McIntosh Jr. — host of Origin Stories (formerly The Development by David Podcast). šŸŽ§David launched his podcast back in 2020 from his council estate bedroom in Scotland — no contacts, no budget, just a cheap mic and a clear mission: to spotlight inspiring origin stories. Since then, he’s racked up over 1.5 million hits, interviewed huge names like Seth Godin, Rory Sutherland and Jimmy Carr, and built a brand rooted in storytelling, self-development, and social mobility.Now, with Origin Stories, he’s stepping into the next stage of his podcasting journey — continuing his mission and pushing things even further.In this honest conversation, Jamie and David chat about: šŸŽ™ļø The next stage of his podcasting journey and launching Origin Stories šŸ˜‚ What it was really like interviewing Jimmy Carr🌱 Social mobility and why it’s at the heart of David’s mission šŸ˜” The lonely chapter — and how to keep going when it feels like no one caresšŸ“ˆ The future of podcasting and content creation 🧠 What we can all learn from our own origin stories āš™ļø How to actually run a podcast šŸ”„ Drive, grit, and building something from nothingTune in for inspiring insights, actionable advice, and a powerful reminder that it’s possible to build something incredible from scratch.Links:https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/davidmcintoshjr/https://www.youtube.com/@UC7DyXv_nJZncHdRn1WJdvNQšŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

04-16
53:24

Ep. 165: ā€˜Making the Arts Inclusive for All’ with Robert Softley Gales

This week on Just Get A Real Job, I’m joined by the brilliant Robert Softley Gale – a Scottish theatre-maker,Ā  who’s spent over two decades championing inclusivity and accessibility in the arts.As Artistic Director of Birds of Paradise – Scotland’s leading disability-led theatre company – Robert has reshaped the conversation around representation, storytelling, and what theatre can be. In 2024, he was recognised in The List Hot 100 for his powerful contributions to the industry.We talk about why disability should never be a barrier to working in the arts, and how Robert’s work continues to break down outdated ideas around access, casting, and creativity.In this episode, we chat about:ā€‹šŸŽ­ 30 years of Birds of Paradiseā€‹šŸŒŸ Robert’s creative journeyā€‹šŸŽØ Making the arts more accessibleā€‹šŸ“– Telling authentic storiesā€‹šŸŽ¬ Improving disability representation in castingā€‹šŸ¤” Why discomfort keeps you creatively sharpā€‹šŸ’” Advice for navigating theatre in 2025​If you care about theatre, storytelling, or building a more inclusive creative industry – this one’s for you.šŸŽ§ Tune in now wherever you get your podcasts – and don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share!Robert Softley Gale:Birds of Paradise Theatre Company: https://www.boptheatre.co.uk/------šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

04-08
01:03:18

Ep. 164 - ā€˜Being a Creative in 2025’ with James Piercy and Tayla Kenyon

This week, I am joined by James Piercy and Tayla Kenyon, the creative minds behind Fluff and Tepee Productions. They share their journey of launching a theatre company, the importance of collaboration, and the realities of being a creative in 2025.In this episode, we discuss: šŸŽ­ The inspiration behind Fluff šŸŽØ The challenges of starting a theatre company šŸ¤ Why collaboration is key šŸ”‘ Making theatre more accessible šŸ’” Advice for creatives navigating the industry todayIf you're passionate about theatre and the creative arts, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on creativity, collaboration, and storytelling in 2025.James Piercy and Tayla Kenyon:TeePee Productions on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teepeeprods/FLUFF on Tour: https://linktr.ee/flufftour?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaa7m7y6DwE5lqroP9UV7VLiNjpggX0EP4C2BxO9E6p5XtVpahd-x_IriNU_aem_q3ZzE7OnJc-Z9bSeLlOHOQ------šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

04-01
01:03:09

Ep. 163 – 'The TV Industry Is Broken, How Do We Fix It?' with Claire Duffy

In Episode 163 of Just Get A Real Job, we're joined by Claire Duffy, the founder of the Glasgow TV Festival. With the television industry facing major challenges, Claire shares her insights on how we can drive meaningful change, challenge outdated systems, and create a more sustainable future for creatives.In this episode, we discuss: šŸŽ¬ The vision behind the Glasgow TV Festival and why Claire founded it šŸ“ŗ Why the TV industry needs disruption—and how we can fix it šŸŽ­ Lessons modern TV can learn from old Hollywood šŸ’” The biggest lessons Claire has learned in her career šŸ›¤ļø Her journey into the creative industries and early career experiences šŸ’¼ Should creatives be more business-minded, or is entrepreneurship overrated? šŸ‘„ Why the industry is failing audiences—and what needs to change šŸ“¢ Claire’s advice for writers, producers, and anyone navigating the industryIf you care about the future of television, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation that explores what’s broken, what’s working, and what we can do next.Claire on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/csduffywriter/?hl=enGlasgow Telly Festival:https://fikastudios.substack.com/p/what-is-a-glasgow-telly-festival?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=webThe National Article: https://www.thenational.scot/news/25036687.river-city-script-editor-warns-lost-opportunities-scotland/?ref=eb&nid=1948&block=article_block_a&u=077ccd065ce39b0e16b06a803ce0ef76&date=250325Cinora Interview - The cancellation of River City and what it means for UK TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_iStCXXgEs&t=311sLive Q & A ā€˜Time travel is dangerous’ film: https://tickets.showcasecinemas.co.uk/login/0128/162457------šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā ā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā ā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

03-26
01:11:39

Ep.162 – ā€˜Making Broadway Dreams a Reality’ with Drew Gasparini

In this episode of Just Get a Real Job, we’re joined by award-winning composer and songwriter Drew Gasparini. Known for his dynamic contributions to musical theatre and television, Drew’s work includes the Broadway adaptation of The Karate Kid and the hit musical I Could Use a Drink. His latest show, We Aren’t Kids Anymore comes to the Savoy Theatre on April 28th.We discuss:šŸŽ­ Navigating the UK and US creative scenesšŸŽ¶ Composing for musical theatrešŸ’” The essence of being an artistšŸ’° Overcoming financial challenges early in his careeršŸŽ­ The importance of valuing the arts in societyšŸ¤ Supporting emerging talentā“ Managing uncertainty in creative professionsšŸ“ His unique writing process🧠 Mental health in the arts – and much more.Don’t miss this insightful and inspiring conversation------šŸŒ Visit our website:⁠ https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcastā šŸ’™ Support us on Patreon:⁠ www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobā šŸ“² Follow us on:⁠Instagram⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠X (formerly Twitter)ā šŸŽ§ Listen on:⁠Spotify⁠⁠Apple Podcasts

03-14
01:11:33

Ep. 161 – 'Telling Stories for Stage & Screen' with Morna Young

This week, we’re joined by Scottish writer Morna Young, whose powerful storytelling has made waves in theatre and on screen. From tackling imposter syndrome to writing the River City Christmas special, Morna shares her journey, the highs and lows of her career, and the valuable lessons she’s learned along the way.We chat about:šŸŽ­ Playwriting vs. screenwriting🤯 Imposter syndrome & feeling out of place🌊 The story behind Lost at Sea, her debut playšŸžļø How growing up in the north-east of Scotland has shaped her writing.āœļø Writing the River City Christmas specialšŸŽ¤ Learning how to pitch and sell your workšŸ“š Advice for up-and-coming writers and creativesAn honest, inspiring conversation filled with insights for writers and creativesMorna Young:🌐 Visit Morna Young’s website: https://www.mornayoung.com/------šŸŒ Visit our website: https://linktr.ee/JustgetarealjobpodcastšŸ’™ Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobšŸ“² Follow us on:InstagramTikTokX (formerly Twitter)šŸŽ§ Listen on:SpotifyApple Podcasts

03-05
01:14:53

Ep. 160 – ā€˜Making a Career in Comedy’ with Jordan Brookes

This week, we're joined by the hilarious Jordan Brookes, an award-winning comic known for pushing boundaries in stand-up. His latest show, Fontanelle, is currently running at Soho Theatre and we dive into the highs and lows of comedy, taking creative risks and how the industry is evolving.In this episode, Jordan discusses: Why bombing on stage is a good thing for comics How Fontanelle came about The changing landscape of comedy The Titanic The difficulty of enjoying any success without always chasing the next thing His early years as a comic.Ā  Why masculinity is so confusing to talk about Lessons from 15 years in comedy and moreJordan BrookesšŸŽ­ Jordan Brookes: Fontanelle – Soho Theatre – https://sohotheatre.com/shows/fontanellešŸŽ¤ Jordan Brookes – Comedian –https://www.jordanbrookescomedy.comā–¶ļø Watch the full discussion on YouTubešŸŒ Visit our website: https://www.justgetarealjob.comšŸ’™ Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/justgetarealjobĀ  šŸ“² Follow us on:Facebook | Instagram | TikTok | XšŸŽ§ Listen on:Spotify | Apple Podcasts

02-26
01:07:06

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